Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11
Ed Greshko greshko.com> writes: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access_poll OK, you may argue that there is not enough proof to show that the poll is reflective of normal users, but the other reasons for change are compelling enough, methinks. It is also a difficult ask for a scientific survey, since it costs a lot of $$, and is near impossible. How would you go about having a random selection of GNOME users when we don't have a list of people who use GNOME and their contact detail? Regards, Noel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11
Ed Greshko greshko.com> writes: > It isn't the content of the pollit is the polling methodology. > > But, never mind. I'm glad important things are decided by these "polls". I stand by my poll. You haven't addressed my points about the methodology, as stated in my first post. I have never said that polls should be the way of deciding things. I'm saying that the wider Fedora community's input is important, and the developers should take the input into account. I thought this poll would clarify where the wider community stands on the issue. I hope that developers won't play the "I'm-the-boss" card in the end and say that, well, too bad, this is a meritocracy. It may be so, but how the community wants things is important as well. Regards, Noel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11
Ed Greshko greshko.com> writes: > Doesn't matter > > It is only a poll of those people who have decided to respond.No > better than the various CNN online polls an those types. So according to you, there won't be a way of determining whether people like something or not? Because, if one comes up with poll results that are contrary to your preferences, you can just dismiss it with a "oh some people didn't respond". I believe that those who responded are representative of the Fedora community, per reason in previous post. Your comments don't seem to be constructive here, considering the above, and also the fact that you didn't even bother to look at the poll that you're dismissing. Regards, Noel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11
Ed Greshko greshko.com> writes: > Woopie > > I hope you realized this type of "poll" is totally unscientific and > meaningless. > Unscientific and meaningless? How so? I bet you didn't even read the poll. I kept my personal opinion out of my poll question and my post. Neutral and fair descriptions are given to each of the modes. The illustrative screenshots are not biased: in fact, I deliberately didn't use a deeply nested directory to show that Spatial mode makes a mess with millions of windows! Although not all Fedora users are affiliated with Fedora Forum, a wide range, if not all of Fedora users are represented in FF. This is evident from the range of questions asked in the forum: ranging from "Linux newb *Fedora 10 install problem*" to problems with chkrootkit. I believe that Fedora Forum is the place to ask the question, and the answer will be representative of the wider Fedora community. (which favours change, 20 for and 1 against at the moment) And BTW, why hasn't any opponent to change addressed these good points? *That most new Fedora users migrated from Windows, which shows folders like a browser. To help them adjust, avoid confusion and therefore increasing the chance of them stay using Fedora, isn't it better to give them by default familiar interface and ways of doing things? *That spatial mode leaves behind tons of windows, inconvenient for users. And I know you can use Shift-Doubleclick or simply change it browser mode, but why on earth would most of Fedora users have to suffer this inconvenience simply because the powers that be happened to like it? *That the only supposed advantage is that it mimics real life, therefore more intuitive. Hell, it's annoying to open a packet within a packet within a packet on a real life desktop, where a pile of rubbish is left on it,so why repeat that in the virtual world? Here's a video that illustrates my point - I'm using it out of context, but nevertheless:http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1064947/rocketboom_earth_day_2007/. Regards, Noel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11
Mark gmail.com> writes: > > Hey, > > The question is simple: > Lets use the browser view of nautilus in the next fedora release. Hi all, I decided to set up a poll in Fedora Forum - http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=208330 - vote there guys! Regards, Noel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preupgrade issue F9 > F10
Download: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/preupgrade/1.0.0/1.fc9/noarch/preupgrade-1.0.0-1.fc9.noarch.rpm And then type: su -c 'rpm -Uvh preupgrade-1.0.0-1.fc9.noarch' Everyone's asking this very question... Oh well. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:12 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > When I run preupgrade, it doesn't show F 10 in the drop down menu. All I > can see is Rawhide if I check the box at the bottom. > My system is up to date. > Thanks, > EJ > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Preupgrade from F9 to F10 gives error message on reboot
Hello, I used preupgrade today to upgrade from F9 to F10. After downloading all the packages, it asked me to reboot. After it did so, anaconda was started, and there were several message that came up. 1. "Unable to mount hda6 to /mnt/hda6" - I thought it isn't important, so I clicked on Continue. 2. "Downloading repository information from repository" 3. "Retrying downloading" 4. "Unable to read package metadata. This may be due to a missing repodata directory. Please ensure that your install tree has been correctly generated. Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository anaconda-InstallationRepo-200811191949.i386. Please verify its path and try again." The options were Exit Installer, Retry, Edit, and Continue. When I clicked on Edit I was prompted to enter a path to the repository. However, there was a popup that said "Unable to display /Nothing/var/cache/yum/" - which may be a hint to someone who knows these things. When I tried "Retry" it said "unable to generate install tree". What should I do so I can install F10? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
