Re: fedora core 12 with dual head and kde
On 01/08/2010 09:53 AM, Andrew Parker wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Wolfgang Leideck wrote: Hello fedora users, how can I configure KDE to spread the desktop over two monitors. I'm using a Dell Optiplex 760. lspci shows 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) A xorg.conf doesn't exist. With krandr both screens are overlayed and could not be moved. Can xrandr help you out? I get the same problem, but xrandr works for me. Can you explain how you use xrandr so that it works for you (parameters, options ? ) I wonder if this offers any additional information Xorg -configure # writes out a copy of xorg.conf.new http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
Hi, > we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't > load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same > error, Anaconda 12.47 Which version of Fedora are you using and what is the video card in the machines? TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen und wirklich heiß machen! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
IMPORTANT: Mailing list migration this weekend
To all fedora-list subscribers, Please excuse what may be a redundant email; it's an important subject for everyone here so we want to maximize awareness. The Fedora Infrastructure team is migrating our mailing lists this weekend, as seen previously on the official announcement list: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00011.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2010-January/msg1.html If you want the nitty-gritty details from the experts, read both those emails completely, and use the links they provide to show you exactly what's happening. Below is a summary for what will happen this weekend: 1. At times, mailing list traffic will appear to stop. Messages sent to the list will be queued, and when delivery resumes they will hit the list again. 2. List-ID headers will change, because the lists are moving from one domain to another. What do you need to do about it? * These delays will be temporary, and mail will be queued during any delay period. If you send something to the list, it may not appear immediately, but it will appear when the delay is over. Please don't send tests or other repeated messages to the list, since that will only make the queue longer. * Those of you who don't filter mail (i.e. if all your email comes to one Inbox) may not need to take action. *BUT* if you have Fedora lists on spam filters, or if you filter your email based on headers like the List-Id or From address, you'll need to update your filters this weekend or risk missing some email. I have a Gmail account which I use for my Fedora list email. I am editing those filters to search for "list:@redhat.com OR list:@lists.fedoraproject.org" when filtering. By making the change now, hopefully the transition will be seamless from my perspective. Old to new address mappings can be found in a helpful PDF[1] prepared by the Infrastructure team. Thank you for your patience, cooperation, and continued interest in Fedora, and thanks as well to our Infrastructure team[2] for their constant improvement of Fedora's 100% free and open source, enterprise-class services. * * * [1] http://jstanley.fedorapeople.org/mlmigration.pdf [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:16:11PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > > the guts of package management. However, PackageKit is neither > > unreliable nor barely communicating in my experience, and I use it > > most of the time in Fedora. Yum also has bits that allow it to > > communicate with PackageKit when run on the command line. This system > > works quite well. > > This one doesn't. Several times it has told me graphically about updates > and then spewed nonsense errors when told to apply them. Running yum > always works. Not figured out why but there is a real bug somewhere. I'm sure Richard Hughes would be interested in hearing about it via a bug filing, and could probably help figure out where to pull out the appropriate info if it recurs. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 07:03:07AM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:44:42 + > n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > > Recently I've found Yumex to be unreliable, getting stuck when trying to > > do updates. Yet the updates can be made using yum from the command line. > > Also it seems to take far too long to update the status of RPMs > > installed and available. Hopefully this will be fixed shortly and I can > > again feel confidence in yumex. > > yumex went to the dark side and broke itself up into two highly > unreliable barely communicating pieces just like packagekit. I gave > up on it completely when it did that. I'll stick to the yum command line > now (where I can at least tell what the heck is going on during > updates). The yum command line tool is great for anyone who wants to see more of the guts of package management. However, PackageKit is neither unreliable nor barely communicating in my experience, and I use it most of the time in Fedora. Yum also has bits that allow it to communicate with PackageKit when run on the command line. This system works quite well. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 all media players have no video but sound only
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 09:58:33PM -0800, barry yu wrote: > MP3 players are working, Flash player plays web radio, but none of > these medial players can play avi or dvd video, but audio of video > movies are working; > MPlayer, Xine, VLC I can assure you this works properly with totem, which properly uses gstreamer information in RPM packages, allowing PackageKit to find and offer to install support. You do need to enable third-party repositories to actually get those codecs, though, and that may have legal repercussions in some parts of the world, which is why we can't ship them out of the box: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Changing GNOME "default" directories
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:31:38PM +1030, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> There's supposed to be some function (or was in earlier Fedora > >> releases) that'd periodically update your user directories. Though I > >> don't know how, and how often, it actually did its trick. I've never > >> seen it do its trick. > > Paul W. Frields: > > It's xdg-user-dirs-update, and it does work. Just tested it here on a > > fresh account. > > What does it actually do? Create replacements for missing special > directories? > > (As I said, I haven't managed to see it do anything, yet.) That's right, it does that on first session according to the system-wide settings in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.* . You can change the settings afterward in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs if you create alternatives, and run the tool to catch the changes. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Audio
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 04:33:28PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I would love to just use one system for sound and let other systems > send audio to it. Is network audio a reasonable solution? > Suggestions if not? > > Assume having multiple systems using the same server is not an > issue, coordination is possible, overlap is acceptable. I do this in my home office with PulseAudio's network capabilities. Works like a champ. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Best way to get minimal system
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 04:05:18PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > >On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:28:55AM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >>On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 09:22 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: > >>>Hi all, what's the best way to get a minimal Fedora system? > >>What do you mean by minimal? > > > >If you mean just the base system kernel, libraries, and yum and its > >dependencies, and you don't want to use kickstart to do it, you can > >get a reasonable facsimile by installing from the netinstall ISO and > >deselecting every package group. > > > >You need to do this with the "Customize selection" option, rather than > >simply turning off the small number of extra capabilities shown on the > >general users screen. If you leave something selected behind the > >scenes, its dependencies will bring in a lot of non-minimal stuff. > > > >The result is about 200 packages (a few hundred MB, depending on how > >you count exactly) installed, and a text/CLI only system. You'll need > >to configure the network with system-config-network (since there's no > >NetworkManager available) and then you can go to town. :-) > > > I think I remember a click box for "minimal system" install, which > was a good idea for this. > > Suggestion: This would be a great option to have at the start of a > custom installation, to uncheck everything for the user, who could > then install the minimal things needed from there. In other words, > it would be a starting point, not "this is all I want" option. > > On servers it is sometimes useful to have a few X applications to be > run to a server on remote machines withut a local server and the tom > of cruft that entails. This is occasionally suggested and the fact is that the vast majority of the small proportion of people who need that option in a graphical installer can already do it with the text mode installer (where minimal is the default), or use kickstart. For the vast majority of users it's not very useful, and potentially confusing. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Best way to get minimal system
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:28:55AM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 09:22 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: > > Hi all, what's the best way to get a minimal Fedora system? > > What do you mean by minimal? If you mean just the base system kernel, libraries, and yum and its dependencies, and you don't want to use kickstart to do it, you can get a reasonable facsimile by installing from the netinstall ISO and deselecting every package group. You need to do this with the "Customize selection" option, rather than simply turning off the small number of extra capabilities shown on the general users screen. If you leave something selected behind the scenes, its dependencies will bring in a lot of non-minimal stuff. The result is about 200 packages (a few hundred MB, depending on how you count exactly) installed, and a text/CLI only system. You'll need to configure the network with system-config-network (since there's no NetworkManager available) and then you can go to town. :-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Changing GNOME "default" directories
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:32:44PM +1030, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 22:19 +0100, Alessandro Boggiano wrote: > > I'd like to change the destination of the default GNOME directories : > > the directories like "Videos","Music"," Documents".. ( I'm using GNOME > > in Italian, so > > the original name, maybe, are a little different). > > Usually their definition is in the file ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, and > > the file is there! > > Here a couple of lines: > > [snip] > > XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Scrivania" > > XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/Musica" > > [snip] > > > > But if I change the values, for example: > > XDG_MUSIC_DIR="/Dati/Mp3" > > > > The change is not detected, even after a logout. > > There's supposed to be some function (or was in earlier Fedora releases) > that'd periodically update your user directories. Though I don't know > how, and how often, it actually did its trick. I've never seen it do > its trick. It's xdg-user-dirs-update, and it does work. Just tested it here on a fresh account. > I suspect the changes you made will only mean something to programs > looking for the default "video" folder (and other special folders), your > user dirs file will tell them which of your directories are the special > ones. Creating the directories they refer to would have to be done as > another process (the real *first* logon, perhaps). Right. Any application these days worth its salt should be consulting the xdg (freedesktop.org) settings to get this information when available. I didn't have a lot of time to play with xdg-user-dirs-update, but it appears that even though you can use the program to set values, you still need to create special directories before first login if they're different from the system defaults. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Ed Greshko wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I cannot get my notebook to even go over 800x600 for the internal display without using system-config-display to create a xorg.conf to get higher resolution with FC12. How do I convince X to give me more without the xorg.conf? BTW, this is on an HP nc2400 that has a 12" display, but I have always run it at 1024x768. When you run system-config-display what shows as "Hardware--->Monitor Type". I had, what I believe, was a similar problem. Setting it to "Generic LCD Display--->LCD Panel (with native resolution of my notebook)" fix my issue. Ed: But doesn't the execution of system-config-display generate an xorg.conf, which is what I know I am trying to avoid (and I think Robert from his additions)? I scanned the web and didn't spot anything implying the contrary, but I admit my web searching skills have been lacking on the past couple times I've tried to find thing. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
another question on "Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace"
Paul Allen Newell wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: Don't do that. See: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ (with screenshots even! :) There is no need at all to make an xorg.conf, and as you have seen it can cause problems moving forward. kevin Kevin or anyone who has a suggestion: I tried the suggestion in the link you provided and it works ... as advertised (???). If I have logged in, enabling that setting does mean that crtl+alt+backspace will restart X and put me back at the login screen. But it doesn't help in the one situation that I usually want to restart X. I turn on a machine but the KVM is pointing to another machine. When I am ready to use the machine that I have just powered up, the screen size settings are wonked and I want to crtl+alt+backspace to restart and get the screen size correct. In this case, it doesn't work. From what I can figure out, there is some part of the boot process that polls the monitor and, if it the KVM has it pointing elsewhere, it makes "worst-case default assumptions" since it doesn't see the monitor. I am now assuming that the setting that I have made via the link's suggestion works once a login has occurred and all shell stuff has been resolved. Is there a way to enable the key combination to work prior to logging in? I am certainly happier that I can at least login, kick it, and get settings back ... but that seems "wrong" since I don't think I really should be restarting X once logged in. Thanks in advance, Paul ps: I am also looking into all the other suggestions made in this thread to see if I prefer any of the others, but figured I'd at least ask about this "almost what I want" solution. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update question
s wrote: On 01/03/2010 11:50 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: While doing a "yum update" after an install from DVD, I noticed that I got the following message (this is a "write it down and then retype into computer that has mail" so I might have a typo: [...] Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686 W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo [...] The machine is old and I am prepared to understand that it might be getting "too old". But I can't figure out how I am decipher this message into something which lets me understand what f12 thinks is missing in my firmware. I checked my f11 install logs on another machine and do not see these warnings. IMHO, it would be nice if yum told me where to look to understand these messages, but MHO might be ignorant of something obvious, so I can't complain until I understand this warning. Thanks in advance, Paul See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523365 "s": Oh yeah, that is definitely it ... thanks for the bug id # Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update question
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 04 January 2010 08:15:13 Paul Allen Newell wrote: Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote: [...] Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686 W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo [...] Did you also get the message like: Processing delta metadata /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img: contents have been changed delta does not match installed data Let me check the log tomorrow ... your "delta doesn't match" sounds familiar and, if such is the case, I will attach myself to the bugzilla you provided I am not sure where is this message logged, but definitely not in yum.log, as I didn't find it there later on when I looked up again. I also don't know where those kernel warnings were logged, if at all... :-) But anyway, there is no need to attach yourself to that bugzilla, just read it to understand what is happening. There is a particular link to the codemonkeys.org website with more clearer explanation. In a nutshell, it's just deltarpm and kernel rpm confusing each other about how big the initramfs.img file should be. And it just so happens that those firmware modules happen to reside in that file, so during the kernel installation you get the warning that they might get missing. But this never happens, because the kernel has those modules already, and just needs to recreate the initramfs, which happens automatically. So nothing to worry about. ;-) Best, :-) Marko Marko: I capture and save a cut-and-paste of screen output of most yum updates I do, so I checked and the "delta" message is there. Appreciate the additional message ... as I was reading through it I remember having seen a prior post on such. Not certain why it didn't click at the time, maybe it was because I remember something about "don't need to worry" and therefore it didn't stick. As you suggest, I will blaze ahead and not worry (though I will attach myself to the bug #544901 so I am aware when it is resolved) Thanks again, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Changing GNOME "default" directories
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 10:19:58PM +0100, Alessandro Boggiano wrote: > >> Yes, I tried! But I can't find anything in it! > >> > > Just blame this on my age. I thought I understood what you wanted to do > > in your original post. Now I am clueless. > > What do you mean by the position of the Gnome default directories? > ate/MailingListGuidelines > > Blame on your age, but on my English as well! ;) > > I'd like to change the destination of the default GNOME directories : > the directories like "Videos","Music"," Documents".. ( I'm using GNOME > in Italian, so > the original name, maybe, are a little different). > Usually their definition is in the file ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, and > the file is there! > Here a couple of lines: > [snip] > XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Scrivania" > XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/Musica" > [snip] > > But if I change the values, for example: > XDG_MUSIC_DIR="/Dati/Mp3" > > The change is not detected, even after a logout. > > Maybe I could use sym links, but,IMHO, is not the "clean" answer! After you change the value in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, run 'xdg-user-dirs-update' to set the changes in stone. The directory to which you point must exist. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update question
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote: While doing a "yum update" after an install from DVD, I noticed that I got the following message (this is a "write it down and then retype into computer that has mail" so I might have a typo: [...] Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686 W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo [...] Did you also get the message like: Processing delta metadata /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img: contents have been changed delta does not match installed data or similar, somewhere in the early stages of the update process (before the actual installing of .rpm's)? If yes, then you have probably hit this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544901 In short, those warnings are harmless and you are pretty safe to ignore them. HTH, :-) Marko Marko: Let me check the log tomorrow ... your "delta doesn't match" sounds familiar and, if such is the case, I will attach myself to the bugzilla you provided Thanks, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: control-C and yum update
Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 Paul Allen Newell : I though "control-C" was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it. It's an interrupt, which could be blocked or it might be on a different queue. You should be able to background yum and kill it straight away: Ctrl+z kill %1 -c Chris: Got it ... this makes sense as there are jobs I run that I have to ps and then kill. If yum blocks until first "y/N", it makes sense. Thanks, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
yum update question
While doing a "yum update" after an install from DVD, I noticed that I got the following message (this is a "write it down and then retype into computer that has mail" so I might have a typo: [...] Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686 W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo [...] The machine is old and I am prepared to understand that it might be getting "too old". But I can't figure out how I am decipher this message into something which lets me understand what f12 thinks is missing in my firmware. I checked my f11 install logs on another machine and do not see these warnings. IMHO, it would be nice if yum told me where to look to understand these messages, but MHO might be ignorant of something obvious, so I can't complain until I understand this warning. Thanks in advance, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
control-C and yum update
A quick question which is hopefully just "an education request" ... While reinstalling f12 on a machine that I "messed up", I was following all my notes and directions and reached the point where the install was successful and it was time to update. I did a "su -l" and then typed "yum update". I realized I had forgotten something and immediately did a "control-C" in the terminal that I had executed the "yum update". To my surprise, it ignored it until it got to the first confirm and then proceeded to kill the process. No problem as the update was stopped but ... I though "control-C" was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it. Am I missing something about either "control-C" or "yum update" .. or both? Thanks in advance for any explanation as I am wondering if I really understand "control-C" Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Tomcat6 docs
Just filed bug against 6.0.20 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551643 Isidore Nabi wrote: > > > > Alessandro Boggiano wrote: >> >> I've installed the package tomcat6-docs-webapp-6.0.18-9.2.fc11.noarch, >> but it contains all zero size html files. >> Of course, I can't see anything, as well, if I use the URL: >> > > I noticed the same thing, and the reason I'm responding now is that yum > recently updated tomcat6 to 6.0.20, and I just noticed that all the all > the > HTML files in webapps/docs are empty again. > > In both cases I just downloaded apache-tomcat-6.0.xx-fulldocs.tar.gz and > installed it in the webapps directory after deleting the existing docs > directory. > > This really is a strange phenomenon in that only the HTML files are > affected. All the image files, XML files and plain text files (*.txt or > extensionless files like LICENSE) are intact, yet every HTML file in this > directory and all its subdirectories has zero length. This appears to be > happening when the rpm package is created, as the modification dates of > the > empty HTML files are the same as those of the intact files, later than > those > of the same files from the fulldocs tarball, and earlier than the date on > which the update was installed. > > I'd be interested in hearing if you've learned any more about this in the > interim. So far you appear to be the only other person who has noticed. > Maybe more people will come out of the woodwork like me now that there > appears to be a recurring issue. > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Tomcat6-docs-tp3951277p4236729.html > Sent from the fedora mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Tomcat6-docs-tp26211976p26983079.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
installing to external disk: esata now!
I've got several bootable usb installs of Centos, Fedora and Ubuntu. All work great now, I think i understand all the details about drive labeling, getting the initrd correct, and so forth. I was active in this list back in the Fedora 4 and 5 days, when these things were getting ironed out. Examples of the old posts (The COMPLETE guide to installing Linux Fedora Core 5 on your external HD, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-119764.html, On one of the external drives, I have esata port as well, and finally a new PC arrived that has an esata port built in. I've not tried this with Fedora 11 yet, but I have one running Centos-5.4, the external drive can boot from the USB connection, and while running, the esata drive is recognized and can be mounted easily. However, when I disconnect the USB and boot from the esata connection, the boot fails in a kernel panic because the /root drive cannot be found. I believe this is the exact same problem that afflicted efforts to boot from USB in the past, before we learned about adding the usb-storage modules into the mkinitrd command. Remember those days? Anyway, I wonder if anybody knows what modules are needed in the initrd in order to boot from an esata drive. Currently, for the USB boot, the modules needed are specified in /etc/modprobe.conf, they are: alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix alias scsi_hostadapter1 usb-storage If one of you knows the similar recipe for esata, I would very much appreciate it. -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political Science 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 University of Kansas -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installation plays hardball
> "John" == John Aldrich writes: John> As I said, you need to choose to use a custom partition John> scheme, otherwise, Fedora will wipe every linux partition as John> happened to you. Granted, it's not obvious, but if you've John> been playing with linux for more than a couple John> distributions, I'd think you'd already have some notion of John> this by now. I've been using Fedora since its inception, and it wasn't obvious to me at all. I didn't actually trip up over it, as I was treading very carefully, but I must say I have plenty of sympathy for the OP. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Suvayu and Ed:
Thanks for these replies. Points taken as they help me see the
weaknesses in my understanding. So, yeah, I got hacking / homework ahead
... and seeing if I can figure out enough to feel comfortable learning /
switch to bash from tcsh.
Paul
Suvayu Ali wrote:
Hi Paul,
On Monday 28 December 2009 09:21 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
The man page tells you under what conditions the various files
(/etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile ~/.bash_login etc) are read depending on
what type of shell (interactive, login).
Are you saying there is a situation not covered?
Remember, everything that is executed is executed under a shell.
I think part of my confusion is that I am not understanding whether a
login shell covers everything that is done once I have logged in via
splash screen or if it is confined to "logining into a shell". If the
former, then I would assume bash_profiles is hit once and everything
done thereafter would be under its command. If the latter, then I am
probably unclear about whether launching a terminal is a "login" act
(hence under bash_profile only within that shell).
I think a small experiment is in order. Open up any terminal emulator
of your choice, go fullscreen (well just stretching it to be really
big should be enough for the experiment ;) )
Now run the following,
$ ps uf -u `whoami`
The output might be a little truncated on the right depending on the
size of your monitor, but that is not too important. As you can see,
the command to start your desktop is initiated by a shell. So if you
setup your environment variables appropriately, then all those should
be available to the shell starting your desktop. This allows you to
have a consistent environment for your applications no matter how you
launch them, from a terminal or from the gui of your desktop.
The lesson to learn here are the differences between shells/apps
inheriting the environment of its parent shell/process depending on
how you set the environment.
If you are interested, you can try another small experiment to see for
yourself what I mean. Try putting this in your ~/.bash_profile,
export PATH=$PATH:${HOME}/bin
And then put a symbolic link to some small application of your choice
in your ${HOME}/bin.
For example I did this, (I chose thunar as I use XFCE)
$ ln -s -T `which thunar` ${HOME}/bin/fakethunar
Now logout and log back in. Try running `fakethunar' with the Alt-F2
dialogue. It will open up thunar. Now comment out those lines, logout,
login again and repeat that. You will get an error message. You can do
many different variations of this to explore some more subtleties. But
I think this paints a clearer picture now. :)
Paul
Have fun hacking.
PS: This kind of info is usually in the FILES or INVOCATION section of
the man pages.
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Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any "well behaved" desktop environment when ever you login. In my experience XFCE and WindowMaker does this. (I don't use Gnome/KDE as often, so can't comment on them). ~/.bashrc gets sourced when ever you open an interactive shell, maybe by opening a terminal emulator or login in remotely. This means whenever you login remotely both ~/.bash_profile& ~/.bashrc gets sourced. However if you open a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal or xterm only your ~/.bashrc gets sourced. It is my impression that.bashrc is souurced whenever any program is run in a bash environment. I am willing to be corrected. By bash environment if you mean a terminal emulator then that is exactly what I meant in my previous post. However if for example you run something using a menu or shortcut on your desktop or maybe Alt-F2 then ~/.bashrc is _not_ sourced, and environment variables defined there won't be available to you. If you want something like that, you need to define it in your ~/.bash_profile. Hope this makes my point clearer. :) Naive question it sounds like if a user has selected bash as shell-of-choice, then bash_profile is there for any operation (terminal or not) that would involve the use of the shell? I might not be saying this right, but I am trying to understand just how global bash_profile is and, if not, why it isn't as it seems by your email that for all intents and purposes it is global to a user's login process. Thanks for bearing with the question given that you already know I am running tcsh and therefore this is a learning exercise as opposed to a real occurrence in my usage of fedora. Paul Why not just read "man bash"? Because bring up the "man bash" pages and searching for "profile" gives me info about what happens with a shell or a non-interactive --login shell and doesn't give me any meta information that either answers my question or makes it clear that I am asking the wrong question. http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html One of the reasons to watch/read this forum is to get answers to questions that man pages don't supply. In my experience, if you want to know exactly how to do something with a given command/whatever, they are great. If you want to get an understanding of the overall picture of the command/whatever, they aren't very good as they assume you have already commit to "this is what I am using so how do I do this particular operation". To ask what is the scope of ".bash_profile" outside of sourcing order in particular occurrences, I don't see it in the man pages. I am more than happy to be told that I am totally incorrect in my interpretation of this. Thanks (and that includes making me double-check the man pages to prove to myself that I am not seeing the answer I am looking for!), Paul I suppose I don't understand your question or what makes you think the man page doesn't answer it. The man page tells you under what conditions the various files (/etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile ~/.bash_login etc) are read depending on what type of shell (interactive, login). Are you saying there is a situation not covered? Remember, everything that is executed is executed under a shell. Ed, Thanks for bearing with me on this. I think part of my confusion is that I am not understanding whether a login shell covers everything that is done once I have logged in via splash screen or if it is confined to "logining into a shell". If the former, then I would assume bash_profiles is hit once and everything done thereafter would be under its command. If the latter, then I am probably unclear about whether launching a terminal is a "login" act (hence under bash_profile only within that shell). As I said on my initial reply to this thread, "Naive question". I may be missing a fundamental understanding of shells and logins and all that sort of stuff. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any "well behaved" desktop environment when ever you login. In my experience XFCE and WindowMaker does this. (I don't use Gnome/KDE as often, so can't comment on them). ~/.bashrc gets sourced when ever you open an interactive shell, maybe by opening a terminal emulator or login in remotely. This means whenever you login remotely both ~/.bash_profile& ~/.bashrc gets sourced. However if you open a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal or xterm only your ~/.bashrc gets sourced. It is my impression that.bashrc is souurced whenever any program is run in a bash environment. I am willing to be corrected. By bash environment if you mean a terminal emulator then that is exactly what I meant in my previous post. However if for example you run something using a menu or shortcut on your desktop or maybe Alt-F2 then ~/.bashrc is _not_ sourced, and environment variables defined there won't be available to you. If you want something like that, you need to define it in your ~/.bash_profile. Hope this makes my point clearer. :) Naive question it sounds like if a user has selected bash as shell-of-choice, then bash_profile is there for any operation (terminal or not) that would involve the use of the shell? I might not be saying this right, but I am trying to understand just how global bash_profile is and, if not, why it isn't as it seems by your email that for all intents and purposes it is global to a user's login process. Thanks for bearing with the question given that you already know I am running tcsh and therefore this is a learning exercise as opposed to a real occurrence in my usage of fedora. Paul Why not just read "man bash"? Because bring up the "man bash" pages and searching for "profile" gives me info about what happens with a shell or a non-interactive --login shell and doesn't give me any meta information that either answers my question or makes it clear that I am asking the wrong question. http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html One of the reasons to watch/read this forum is to get answers to questions that man pages don't supply. In my experience, if you want to know exactly how to do something with a given command/whatever, they are great. If you want to get an understanding of the overall picture of the command/whatever, they aren't very good as they assume you have already commit to "this is what I am using so how do I do this particular operation". To ask what is the scope of ".bash_profile" outside of sourcing order in particular occurrences, I don't see it in the man pages. I am more than happy to be told that I am totally incorrect in my interpretation of this. Thanks (and that includes making me double-check the man pages to prove to myself that I am not seeing the answer I am looking for!), Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any "well behaved" desktop environment when ever you login. In my experience XFCE and WindowMaker does this. (I don't use Gnome/KDE as often, so can't comment on them). ~/.bashrc gets sourced when ever you open an interactive shell, maybe by opening a terminal emulator or login in remotely. This means whenever you login remotely both ~/.bash_profile& ~/.bashrc gets sourced. However if you open a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal or xterm only your ~/.bashrc gets sourced. It is my impression that.bashrc is souurced whenever any program is run in a bash environment. I am willing to be corrected. By bash environment if you mean a terminal emulator then that is exactly what I meant in my previous post. However if for example you run something using a menu or shortcut on your desktop or maybe Alt-F2 then ~/.bashrc is _not_ sourced, and environment variables defined there won't be available to you. If you want something like that, you need to define it in your ~/.bash_profile. Hope this makes my point clearer. :) Naive question it sounds like if a user has selected bash as shell-of-choice, then bash_profile is there for any operation (terminal or not) that would involve the use of the shell? I might not be saying this right, but I am trying to understand just how global bash_profile is and, if not, why it isn't as it seems by your email that for all intents and purposes it is global to a user's login process. Thanks for bearing with the question given that you already know I am running tcsh and therefore this is a learning exercise as opposed to a real occurrence in my usage of fedora. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
TNWestTex wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: François Patte wrote: Paul Allen Newell a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that the opSys was using. Worked great and, to use the cliché, "groovy" Reboot system and it immediately hangs after that cute little Fedora icon finishes to say that it booted. Just hangs and hangs. To use the cliché again, "not groovy". I figure I have no choice but to reinstall Why don't edit grub "boot line" to switch to level 3 and see what happens using startx? Then examine the log files Xorg.0.log* This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. François: Thanks for the reply. Given the "here it is" replies from Eric and Kevin, I'm going to take the easy route and use that rather than get myself into more trouble with Xorg. Paul If you use the advice from François you can make the other changes by using su - to get to root without having to reinstall. In textmode you have control over your system that the graphical boot takes away from you. Besides on all the systems I've tried so far it is much faster to login and type startx than is tis to wait for all the graphics. Robert McBroom Robert: Though I certainly agree with the benefits you describe, I have to admit that I don't feel secure enough in my skills to venture into such. Just trying to run vanilla quite often gets me into trouble. That being said, fedora / red hat / linux is one heck of alot easier than Windows as far as I am concerned. Once I have a stable f12 install, I'll read man page / web to learn more about startx as your advice indicates it is probably something I could find useful. Thanks for the email, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Suvayu and Tim: A very good explanation of the differences and what to expect from each. Suvayu is correct in understanding my emails that I am running tcsh as that is the shell I am most familiar with thanks to work environments. Given the info that I have gotten here, I will take a stab at finding out from our sysAdmins whether there is anything similar in tcsh. You can probably tell that, being a tcsh user, the concept of a "_profile" is a new one to me ... more learning on my part is in order now that you've pointed me in right direction. Thanks, Paul Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Paul, On Sunday 27 December 2009 10:52 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: If the OP is interested, the command line way to do this would be to have one of your login scripts like ~/.bash_profile say, setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp ;) Suvayu: Thanks, this is interesting. So it is in .bash_profile and not .bashrc? Is there a similar way to do in either cshrc or, preferably, tcshrc? ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any "well behaved" desktop environment when ever you login. In my experience XFCE and WindowMaker does this. (I don't use Gnome/KDE as often, so can't comment on them). ~/.bashrc gets sourced when ever you open an interactive shell, maybe by opening a terminal emulator or login in remotely. This means whenever you login remotely both ~/.bash_profile & ~/.bashrc gets sourced. However if you open a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal or xterm only your ~/.bashrc gets sourced. So ideally, (As Tim said in a later post) your environment variables should be defined in your ~/.bash_profile where as your aliases and functions should be defined in ~/.bashrc. What I say is true assuming your login shell is bash. Since you asked about csh or tcsh, as far as I understood from a quick look at the respective manpages (section: startup and shutdown) they behave differently. There is no file corresponding to ~/.bash_profile for either of them. (maybe this is how C-shells behave?) However ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc does get sourced (in that order). So you can define this in one of those files and see whether this works. Paul GL -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to increase the number of cirtual desktops?
I assume you are working under gnome. Just right click with the cursor in on of the workspace icons, on the panel bar on the right. select preferences and you can change the number of virtual workspaces and other things. greetings paul 2009/12/28 Bill Davidsen > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >> i'm embarrassed to ask this, but how does one increase the number of >> virtual desktops in f12? used to be there were 4, but with f12, after >> a fresh install, there's only 2 and i've poked around under >> System->Prefs and don't see a setting for that. >> >> Related to that, I also keep a fair number of desktops, and I find that > they take more of my taskbar than I wish to give them. My solution was to > put a tray (aka drawer) on the taskbar, and put the desktop switcher in > that. I usually leave it open, but I can gain the space it takes just by > closing the drawer. > > Then I have room for the monitor app on the taskbar, so I can quickly see > if the system is running badly. ;-) > > > -- > Bill Davidsen > "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from > the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Suvayu Ali wrote: On Sunday 27 December 2009 11:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. How did you discover this? Trying it in a gnome desktop? :) Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that the opSys was using. Worked great and, to use the cliché, "groovy" Don't do that. See: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ (with screenshots even! :) There is no need at all to make an xorg.conf, and as you have seen it can cause problems moving forward. kevin If the OP is interested, the command line way to do this would be to have one of your login scripts like ~/.bash_profile say, setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp ;) Suvayu: Thanks, this is interesting. So it is in .bash_profile and not .bashrc? Is there a similar way to do in either cshrc or, preferably, tcshrc? Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. How did you discover this? Trying it in a gnome desktop? :) Of course (smile) Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that the opSys was using. Worked great and, to use the cliché, "groovy" Don't do that. See: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ (with screenshots even! :) There is no need at all to make an xorg.conf, and as you have seen it can cause problems moving forward. kevin Kevin: Many thanks for the link (gotta love when screen-shots are included!). When I went hunting on the web, I got stuck on the system-config-display thread which gives me an Xorg to put in DontZap info. I think I ended up on an F11 thread instead of an F12 as a look afterword shows me that my searches were Fedoraguide.info ... bad on my part for remembering prior forum discusssions about DontZap and jumping to wrong conclusion. I wish my Goggling had hit this article first and/or instead ... another lesson learned by hitting thumb with hammer instead of hitting nail. I am quite happy to not mess with Xorg, I remember it making my life miserable on fc5 and I wasn't exactly looking forward to having to mess with it again. Once again, my thanks ... now I just have to reinstall to try it out, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 00:42 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that the opSys was using. Worked great and, to use the cliché, "groovy" Reboot system and it immediately hangs after that cute little Fedora icon finishes to say that it booted. Just hangs and hangs. To use the cliché again, "not groovy". I figure I have no choice but to reinstall (what's a few hours between friends (grumble)) ... but would like to know the proper (which may be not documented) way to restore "crtl-alt-backspace" to kick the X. I have three computer on a KVM and I often need to kick one of them if it boots up and the KVM isn't directed at it cause its on one of the others.. I've never understood why X has to actually connect to the monitor to be correct, but X is pretty near a black box as far as I am concerned (sigh). put into /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "ServerFlags" Option "DontZap" "false" EndSection then you can kill X with as before (after you restart X of course. Craig Craig: The plan originally was to use the DontZap once I proved that using system-config-display to create Xorg would work. Never made it far enough and, given the posting from Eric and especially Kevin, I think I am better off with a reinstall and using the Keyboard Layout. Thanks for the reply, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
François Patte wrote: Paul Allen Newell a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that the opSys was using. Worked great and, to use the cliché, "groovy" Reboot system and it immediately hangs after that cute little Fedora icon finishes to say that it booted. Just hangs and hangs. To use the cliché again, "not groovy". I figure I have no choice but to reinstall Why don't edit grub "boot line" to switch to level 3 and see what happens using startx? Then examine the log files Xorg.0.log* -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. François: Thanks for the reply. Given the "here it is" replies from Eric and Kevin, I'm going to take the easy route and use that rather than get myself into more trouble with Xorg. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Eric Tanguy wrote: Le 27/12/2009 09:42, Paul Allen Newell a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that the opSys was using. Worked great and, to use the cliché, "groovy" Reboot system and it immediately hangs after that cute little Fedora icon finishes to say that it booted. Just hangs and hangs. To use the cliché again, "not groovy". I figure I have no choice but to reinstall (what's a few hours between friends (grumble)) ... but would like to know the proper (which may be not documented) way to restore "crtl-alt-backspace" to kick the X. I have three computer on a KVM and I often need to kick one of them if it boots up and the KVM isn't directed at it cause its on one of the others.. I've never understood why X has to actually connect to the monitor to be correct, but X is pretty near a black box as far as I am concerned (sigh). Thanks in advance, Paul Thanks, Paul In gnome, go to system, preferences, keyboard, after that i don't know the exact translation in english. So go to the 2nd tab, at the bottom right you find something like "options ..." and you find key sequence to kill the server ... Eric Eric: Thank you for reply, later email from Kevin Fenzi had like to website to show this as well. Once I've reinstalled f12, will give it a try. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to increase the number of cirtual desktops?
> "Robert" == Robert P J Day writes: Robert> i'm embarrassed to ask this, but how does one increase Robert> the number of virtual desktops in f12? used to be there Robert> were 4, but with f12, after a fresh install, there's only Robert> 2 and i've poked around under System-> Prefs and don't see a setting for that. Just right-click on the pager. That will get you to the preferences. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)
>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: >>>>> "Linuxguy123" == Linuxguy123 writes: Linuxguy123> Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the Linuxguy123> proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau Linuxguy123> driver. Linuxguy123> DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate Linuxguy123> on the free versions versus proprietary or anything Linuxguy123> else. Colin> Stellarium won't work otherwise (it requires 3D Colin> acceleration). Linuxguy123> If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or Linuxguy123> some other non kms equipped driver, how are you Linuxguy123> finding F12 ? Ie do you experience freezing when you Linuxguy123> access some panel items ? Colin> No such problems for me. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire One problem I do have (and I'm guessing it's related to the proprietary driver), is that if I try to switch to a non-X console (using Ctrl-Alt-Fn), then all I see is a mass of linear colours. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anybody want to crash their X server? :-).
> "Hiisi" == Hiisi writes: Hiisi> arc-drawing bug also will be cured soon. By the way, about Hiisi> your theory of its relation with video card. Mine is: Hiisi> 1. lspci | grep ATI 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Hiisi> Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] 01:00.1 Display Hiisi> controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] Hiisi> (Secondary) Whereas mine (with no such problems) is a NVIDIA Qudaro FX1700 using the propietary dirvers -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that the opSys was using. Worked great and, to use the cliché, "groovy" Reboot system and it immediately hangs after that cute little Fedora icon finishes to say that it booted. Just hangs and hangs. To use the cliché again, "not groovy". I figure I have no choice but to reinstall (what's a few hours between friends (grumble)) ... but would like to know the proper (which may be not documented) way to restore "crtl-alt-backspace" to kick the X. I have three computer on a KVM and I often need to kick one of them if it boots up and the KVM isn't directed at it cause its on one of the others.. I've never understood why X has to actually connect to the monitor to be correct, but X is pretty near a black box as far as I am concerned (sigh). Thanks in advance, Paul Thanks, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anybody want to crash their X server? :-).
> "Tom" == Tom Horsley writes: Tom> Exploring various obscure corners of gimp, I came up with a Tom> sure-fire way to crash my X server, and I'm just wondering if Tom> anyone else wants to try it. Tom> See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550415#c3 Tom> for my prescription. (Draw an arc with Gfig filter tool). No crash for me. F12 64-bit - bang up to date. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No F-12 Flash -
>>>>> "Andre" == Andre Costa writes: Andre> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:37, Amadeus W.M. wrote: >> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:51:10 +, Colin Paul Adams wrote: > > >>>>>> "Amadeus" == Amadeus W M writes: >> > >> > Amadeus> I got >> libflashplayer-10.0.42.34.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz > Amadeus> >> from some download site that google will find it easily, > >> Amadeus> for 64 bit fedora. Unzip it and put it as you >> mentioned > Amadeus> in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins. >> > >> > So I tried this too. >> > >> > To my delight flash started to work. then Firefox crashed. I >> restarted > it - it immediately crashed (even when not >> attempting to display any > pages using flash). >> > >> > So I removed the plugin. Firefox works again. But no flash. >> > >> > Tried again. This is reproducible. :-( -- I re-installed fedora 12 from scratch (my previous installation was on top of an un-formatted /user partition). This time I followed the adobe instructions and put it in ~/mozilla/plugins. Everything works fine :-) -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)
> "Linuxguy123" == Linuxguy123 writes: Linuxguy123> Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the Linuxguy123> proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau Linuxguy123> driver. Linuxguy123> DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate Linuxguy123> on the free versions versus proprietary or anything Linuxguy123> else. Stellarium won't work otherwise (it requires 3D acceleration). Linuxguy123> If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or Linuxguy123> some other non kms equipped driver, how are you Linuxguy123> finding F12 ? Ie do you experience freezing when you Linuxguy123> access some panel items ? No such problems for me. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No F-12 Flash -
> "Amadeus" == Amadeus W M writes: Amadeus> I got libflashplayer-10.0.42.34.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz Amadeus> from some download site that google will find it easily, Amadeus> for 64 bit fedora. Unzip it and put it as you mentioned Amadeus> in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins. So I tried this too. To my delight flash started to work. then Firefox crashed. I restarted it - it immediately crashed (even when not attempting to display any pages using flash). So I removed the plugin. Firefox works again. But no flash. Tried again. This is reproducible. :-( -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird question with gmail
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > Last Friday I was trying to download all my gmail email from google down to > my PC. I succeeded in getting everything from June of 2008 to July of > 2009. I had to stop at that point since I had to leave for the airport. > When I tried today it told me there was nothing to do which of course is > wrong since there is email from July 2009 to Dec 2009 to pull. When I set > the "pop for all mail" option in gmail I was able to resume downloading > email except that it started from June 2008, so now I have several hundred > duplicate email messages. How do I download the July 2009 - Dec 2009 emails > without having to delete the June 2008 to July 2009 emails from gmail? The > only other option in gmail is the "pop for mail that arrives from now on" > which starts from the current time. Obviously I can delete all the already > downloaded email and start over, but I was hoping for a better way. Instead of using the POP3 protocol, why not using IMAP? Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to get fonts matching pattern?
I have a program (xshogi) which puts out a message: No fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* xlsfonts confirms no match. How can I install fonts matching this pattern? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Can't run Firefox after installing fedora 12
I get an error dialog: SQLite Version Error The application has been updated, but your version of SQLite is too old and the application cannot run. this happened immediately after installing F12 from the x86_64 DVD. that was with sqlite version 3.6.17 and firefox 3.4.??? After doing a yum update I now have: sqlite-3.2.20-1.fc12.x86_64 firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12.x86_64 the problem persists. I see from bugzilla that this reared it's head during rawhide, but the bug has been closed (worksforme). Are other people getting this? I also have a 32-bit F12 on another machine, and a 64-bit F12 on a Macbook Air. neither of these machines has the problem (but i've avoided doing any yum updates today just in case). I've had to install the Google-chrome beta as a result. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To Timothy Murphy
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Fennix wrote: >> >> All your messages at gmail end up in my spam folder with the following >> >> mention: >> >> >> >> Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of >> >> following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal >> >> information. Learn more >> > >> > A different Tim, here, but that might be due to him posting through the >> > gmane usenet to email gateway (it gives me problems, too; different >> > problems, though). You could have a look through the headers of one of >> > his mails, and see if there's something in there you can use to tell >> > your mail filter that those messages aren't spam. >> >> I don't think you can tweak gmail's spam filter. Not directly, anyway. >> I always check Timothy Murphy's mails that gmail labels as spam as >> "not spam", hoping to teach it that they're not. I fully expect to see >> a change in gmail's behaviour in a few thousand years (provided, of >> course, that TM at least keeps up his the present day rate of >> postings). > > Hmmm, I also use gmail and all of Timothy Murphy's emails reach me. I do > have a filter that moves all incoming fedora list mail to a fedora folder. > I have never found any fedora list mail in my spam folder. > fennix In my case, all Timothy Murphy's posts go to the GMail spam folder. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora mailing list migration
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 06:44:52PM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Aaron Konstam wrote: > > When is this migration going too occur? And where is it described? I > > did not see it on the announce list. > > Check the announce list archives, it's there. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/thread.html Also, I asked one of the folks on the migration team to write up a short wiki page that describes what users should expect to see and do as a result of the migration. You can expect that shortly, I believe. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Patch] Fix PXE booting for livecd-iso-to-pxeboot created images
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 08:39:43AM -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: [...patch snipped...] > This has to be posted in Bugzilla Request for Improvement (RFI think) if > you want developers to know about the problem and accept your changes. > I know I top posted again but it seemed appropriate. Helpful URL for the OP to file the patch: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=livecd-tools -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f12 guide
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 04:37:20PM +0100, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > I have just installed f12 on a laptop and I want to finish the install. > > Searching for the fedora guide for f12, I can just find f11. > > Where is the f12 guide? Check the documentation site here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Detecting how Apps are called.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 03:30:50PM -0500, Jim wrote: > Is there a command you can run like tail -f or what ever, to see > where a Application is called from. > > Running a application that I can tell where it is started or run from. > Like when I plug in a SD card what and where is it started from. > > I know this Question sounds confusing , but I'm not really sure how > to ask it. In a lot of cases this comes from DBus calls, I believe. You can see the myriad things happening on the session bus like this: $ dbus-monitor --session However, if you don't understand DBus this may not be incredibly useful. The applications called when you insert or attach common types of media are found in your main menu under System > Preferences > File Management, in the "Media" tab. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 3G dongles
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:20:56AM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 03:48:30PM +0100, Antonio M wrote: > > are these kinds of dongles working in F12??? > > Yes, quite a large number of them in fact. This was one of the major > feature points in the Fedora 12 release that went in quite early: > > http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/07/10/unwire-with-networkmanager/ Apologies, that was the wrong link. Here's the correct one: http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/22/mobile-broadband-assistant-makes-it-easy/ -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 3G dongles
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 03:48:30PM +0100, Antonio M wrote: > are these kinds of dongles working in F12??? Yes, quite a large number of them in fact. This was one of the major feature points in the Fedora 12 release that went in quite early: http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/07/10/unwire-with-networkmanager/ -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
> "Suvayu" == Suvayu Ali writes: >> Trying movie player just says: >> >> "No URI handler implemented for DVD" Suvayu> Do you have libdvdcss installed from livna? Suvayu> http://rpm.livna.org/repo/ No I hadn't. Done it now. After a restart, VLC plays fine. Thanks. I think I am now extremely satisified with Fedora 12 on MacBookAir1,1 . Goodbye Mac OSX (Hurrah! It might beat the shit out of Windows, but it's still not up to Linux in my book). Thanks for everyone's help. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: >>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes: Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The Peter> Aftermath: >>>> Works for both headphones and speakers for me. :-) Peter> Which reminds me: which air do you have; or what's the Peter> output of the following command? Peter> sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name Colin> MacBookAir1,1 Colin> More on VLC - examining syslog showed sector read errors, Colin> so switched to anther DVD. This shows scrambled image (as Colin> if it were a copy-protected copy - it isn't - i paid for it Colin> and it works on Mac OSX with DVD player or VLC), and almost Colin> no sound (the occaisional click). Colin> I'm wondering if there are additional codecs I need to Colin> install from somewhere (I just did a yum install vlc so Colin> far) Colin> Trying movie player just says: Colin> "No URI handler implemented for DVD" I installed -gstreamer-plugins-ugly/bad/ffmpeg. Now i see in syslog errors saying "Add. Sense: read of scrambled sector without authentication" Looks like a kernel error. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes: Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The Peter> Aftermath: >>> Works for both headphones and speakers for me. :-) Peter> Which reminds me: which air do you have; or what's the Peter> output of the following command? Peter> sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name Colin> MacBookAir1,1 Colin> More on VLC - examining syslog showed sector read errors, Colin> so switched to anther DVD. This shows scrambled image (as Colin> if it were a copy-protected copy - it isn't - i paid for it Colin> and it works on Mac OSX with DVD player or VLC), and almost Colin> no sound (the occaisional click). Colin> I'm wondering if there are additional codecs I need to Colin> install from somewhere (I just did a yum install vlc so Colin> far) Trying movie player just says: "No URI handler implemented for DVD" -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes:
Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The
Peter> Aftermath:
>> Works for both headphones and speakers for me. :-)
Peter> Which reminds me: which air do you have; or what's the
Peter> output of the following command?
Peter> sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
MacBookAir1,1
More on VLC - examining syslog showed sector read errors, so switched
to anther DVD.
This shows scrambled image (as if it were a copy-protected copy - it
isn't - i paid for it and it works on Mac OSX with DVD player or VLC),
and almost no sound (the occaisional click).
I'm wondering if there are additional codecs I need to install from
somewhere (I just did a yum install vlc so far)
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Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes:
Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The
Peter> Aftermath:
>> I just tried RythmBox with an Audio CD - it plays but not sound
>> :-(
Peter> The consensus seems to be (at least for MacBookAir2,1),
Peter> that the following in /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf:
Peter> options snd_hda_intel model=mbp3
Peter> lets you use the headphone, but not the speakers.[1]
Peter> I forget now how I got sound working on the MacBookAir1,1.
Works for both headphones and speakers for me. :-)
Cheers.
Can't play DVDs yet. VLC reports no errors - but it just doesn't do anything.
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Re: Fedora Board, FESCo & FAmSCo Elections - Voting Information
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 07:19:42PM -0500, Nigel Jones wrote: > Please Note > There will be a Fedora Infrastructure outage during the voting period that > may effect the voting application, as a result we have brought the voting > start date forward to the 5th December instead of the 8th December. > > As announced by Paul Frields in the event of extended outage, we will as > appropriate extend the voting period. > > We have also implemented a new feature in our voting software, so users > can verify their votes. Vote verification can be done at: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/verify > You will be prompted for your Fedora Account System username and password > and a list of elections where votes have been recorded will be listed. > > > For more information please refer to: > > Fedora Infrastructure Outage Information: > * > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg0.html > * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1845 > > Contingency plans in case of extended outage: > * > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-December/msg00014.html > * The series of outages have been very short overall, but upper estimates of various outages possibly affecting the voting application are close to 8 hours. Therefore, in keeping with our contingency plan, the voting period for the Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections will be extended by one additional day. These elections now end on 2009-12-16 UTC 2359. - -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLJlMarNvJN70RNxcRAr+nAJ4mrm1hOvNLoafJBJVCSLbJDRs6vACeOc2H VG/6jW/S+2E1rqDLX5Uganw= =DbVy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes:
Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The
Peter> Aftermath:
>> I haven't had a chance to try this - the mouse pointer stopped
>> moving again. i have to reboot to re-enable it. Any ideas on
>> how to cure this problem?
Peter> Does it happen when you play flash video? If so, try
Peter> removing libflashplayer.so; or reinstall flash.
flash isn't working, so no.
I just tried RythmBox with an Audio CD - it plays but not sound :-(
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Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes:
Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The
Peter> Aftermath:
>> P.S. How do I right click (and middle click??) with the mouse
>> in GNOME on the Air?
Peter> If synaptics is enabled, hold down two fingers on the pad
Peter> while clicking to simulate a right-click; holding down
Peter> three fingers simulates a middle-click.
Peter> You can also drag two fingers on the pad to scroll.
I haven't had a chance to try this - the mouse pointer stopped moving
again. i have to reboot to re-enable it.
Any ideas on how to cure this problem?
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Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes: Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The Peter> Aftermath: >>> Maybe this will work with your second generation air. Peter> Colin, you're a genius! Colin> Possibly, but if so, I haven't shown it on this thread :-) Colin> just blundered around in the dark, then encountered helpful Colin> people here, such as you. Peter> The final frontier now is sound: have you gotten anything Peter> working yet? Colin> I hadn't tried. Colin> So I promptly went to Firefox to try to listen to Colin> something, only to find the mouse pointer was frozen :-( Colin> Rebooted. Colin> Went to a you-tube video page in firefox that I frequent. Colin> Had to install adobe flash. this made no difference so Colin> rebooted. Colin> This made no difference. I guess i have to enable the Colin> whole RPMFusion repo stuff now and try all that. P.S. How do I right click (and middle click??) with the mouse in GNOME on the Air? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes:
Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The
Peter> Aftermath:
>> Maybe this will work with your second generation air.
Peter> Colin, you're a genius!
Possibly, but if so, I haven't shown it on this thread :-)
just blundered around in the dark, then encountered helpful people
here, such as you.
Peter> The final frontier now is sound:
Peter> have you gotten anything working yet?
I hadn't tried.
So I promptly went to Firefox to try to listen to something, only to
find the mouse pointer was frozen :-(
Rebooted.
Went to a you-tube video page in firefox that I frequent.
Had to install adobe flash. this made no difference so rebooted.
This made no difference.
I guess i have to enable the whole RPMFusion repo stuff now and try
all that.
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Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes:
Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Boomtime, the 55th of The
Peter> Aftermath:
>> This is not supported by the b43 device driver, so Linux on
>> this machine is not on.
Peter> That doesn't necessarily follow: I got wireless working on
Peter> the first-gen air with ndiswrapper; ndiswrapper is
Peter> sub-optimal, but it works in a pinch. I haven't been as
Peter> lucky with the second-gen air, though.
Well, I thought "Peter, you're a star!", and set off on this route. Of
course, the docs all talk about doing yum install. That won't work for
me (no internet connection!). So i did some digging, and eventually
found my way through to the non-free section of RpmFusion.
Transferring files one-by-one via USB stick, i was having problems
with dependencies. So I googled further. It turns out there is a
broadcom-wl in RPM Fusion, and you don't need ndiswrapper - you do
need kmod-wl, and just to confuse issues, there are two packages named
this, and you need both (!) - the one named kmod-wl-2.6.31 and the
one named kmod-wl.5.
Anyway, now I have a fully working Mackbook Air with fedora 12 (only)
installed on it, and airport networking.
Maybe this will work with your second generation air.
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Re: linux as router
I don't think that it makes sense to configure a router with one physical network card. If another PC on the same cable segment tries to reach something it needs a router that has connection with more than the same network cable. greetings, paul 2009/12/13 Adel ESSAFI > Hi list > This is the first time I have to configure linux as router. > I have a single network card for which I gave to IPs > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:5B:72:7F:D9 > inet addr:41.231.X.Y Bcast:41.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::211:5bff:fe72:7fd9/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:2595 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:2295 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:1876353 (1.7 MiB) TX bytes:328059 (320.3 KiB) > Interrupt:21 Base address:0x8000 > > eth0:1Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:5B:72:7F:D9 > inet addr:192.168.10.10 Bcast:192.168.10.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > Interrupt:21 Base address:0x8000 > > > > > and this is the default route > > [r...@routeur ~]# route > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > Iface > 41.231.2.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 > eth0 > 192.168.10.0* 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 > eth0 > link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1002 00 > eth0 > default 41.231.2.81 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 > eth0 > > > The problem now, is when I configure a PC with an IP adress 192.168.10.X > and I put the gateway as 192.168.10.10, I do not succeed to ping any PC. How > can I route all the packages from eth0:1 to eth0?? > > > note that I have configured the ip forward. > > echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > Can you help me please. > > regards > > > > > > -- > http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ > > -- > > PhD candidate in Computer Science > Address > BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique > 1001 Tunis > Tunisia > tel: +216 97 246 706 > fax: +216 71 391 166 > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: Colin> Thanks to Chris Smart, Peter Danenberg and others, I have Colin> been able to install Fedora 12 as the sole O/S on my Colin> Macbook Air (first generation). Colin> However the wirless networking is not enabled. I am Colin> following the instructions in Colin> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/wireless-guide/f12/en-US/html-single/#chap-Wireless_Guide-Fedora_And_Wireless Colin> . Colin> There was no wireless device shown in the network Colin> Configuration, so I clicked New and added a device for Colin> hardware Apple Airport. I also tried adding wireless Colin> device on the Hardware tab (eth0), but although it allows Colin> me to do this, after I save and then reopen the Network Colin> Configuration, the hardware only shows a device pan0 of Colin> Type Ethernet (which was there from the start). It does Colin> appear on the Devices tab (it didn't originally until I Colin> added it), but has staus of inactive, and no means to Colin> activate it. Colin> However, even after restarting the computer, the wireless Colin> icon on the panel says there are no network devices Colin> available. Colin> So I tried removing the device from control by Colin> NetworkManager, and activated it manually. But then I get: Colin> Device eth0 does seem to be present, delaying Colin> initalization. Colin> What do I need to do? Apparently the answer is to forget about using Linux, and restore Mac OSX :-( :-( I did lspci And discovered the device is a broadcom with PCI-ID of 14e4:4328 . According to http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 This is not supported by the b43 device driver, so Linux on this machine is not on. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cursor of konsole hides last character
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:45 PM, H. Willstrand wrote: >>>> Is there some workaround to prevent the cursor of konsole (KDE) of >>>> hiding the last character typed? >>> >>> I've never seen Konsole doing what you describe, but you might try >>> "Settings" -> "Edit current settings" in the menu and tweak it to your >>> preference. Maybe the color settings are garbled or something? >> >> Thanks, Marko. I tried some tweaking through >> >> "Settings" -> "Edit current settings", >> >> but no success. >> >> I am attaching a screen-shot, which shows the problem. >> > > Seams to be a font issue, try "System settings" -> "Appearance" -> > "Font" -> "Force font DPI" = 96DPI or other alternatives to see if > things gets better. Thanks, H. Willstrand. Changing DPI improves the situation, in fact. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12
Thanks to Chris Smart, Peter Danenberg and others, I have been able to install Fedora 12 as the sole O/S on my Macbook Air (first generation). However the wirless networking is not enabled. I am following the instructions in http://docs.fedoraproject.org/wireless-guide/f12/en-US/html-single/#chap-Wireless_Guide-Fedora_And_Wireless . There was no wireless device shown in the network Configuration, so I clicked New and added a device for hardware Apple Airport. I also tried adding wireless device on the Hardware tab (eth0), but although it allows me to do this, after I save and then reopen the Network Configuration, the hardware only shows a device pan0 of Type Ethernet (which was there from the start). It does appear on the Devices tab (it didn't originally until I added it), but has staus of inactive, and no means to activate it. However, even after restarting the computer, the wireless icon on the panel says there are no network devices available. So I tried removing the device from control by NetworkManager, and activated it manually. But then I get: Device eth0 does seem to be present, delaying initalization. What do I need to do? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Macbook Air?
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes:
Peter> Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Sweetmorn, the 54th of The
Peter> Aftermath:
>> Can you sketch the details of this reformatting exercise
>> please?
Peter> I'm not sure if the formatting is, strictly speaking,
Peter> necessary; but here's how I got Fedora 12 installed on the
Peter> second-gen Air:
Peter> 1. Used the Disk Utility on the OS X Install DVD to erase
Peter> all the partitions; see, e.g.:
Peter>http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/partitioning_tiger.html
Peter> for details.
Peter> 2. Installed Fedora 12 with the following boot
Peter> parameters:
Peter>intel_iommu=off vga=771
Peter> I find it interesting that it worked for you out of
Peter> the box; with a first-gen Air, I was forced to use:
Peter>xdriver=vesa acpi=off
Peter> 3. At this point, you should have a successful
Peter> installation which fails to boot; if so, boot from a
Peter> rEFIt[1] CD and run gptsync from the Partitioning Tool.
Peter> It's possible that only step 3 is applicable to you, if
Peter> indeed you have a successful installation.
I tried step 3 alone and it works!
Thank you for your time.
Peter> Footnotes: [1] http://refit.sourceforge.net/
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Re: Flowchart-ish tool
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> Is there some rpm of XMind available? > > No, at least not that I've found. I downloaded the "universal" version, put > it in ~/Xmind and create a desktop shortcut pointing to > ~/xmind-3.1/XMind_Linux/xmind Thanks, Steven. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Macbook Air?
> "Peter" == Peter Danenberg writes: >> Is there a way to install fedora on a Macbook air (as the sole >> operating system)? Peter> I'm currently using Fedora 11 as the sole OS on a Peter> second-gen air; it involved, IIRC, booting with the OS X Peter> installation disc and reformatting the drive with the Disk Peter> Utility prior to installing Fedora. Can you sketch the details of this reformatting exercise please? Peter> I was just sitting down to repeat the process with Fedora Peter> 12; but, lo and behold, the Fedora 12 installer craps out Peter> with a kernel panic. I have no problems with the F12 installer (other than the resultant installation fails to boot). -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cursor of konsole hides last character
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> Is there some workaround to prevent the cursor of konsole (KDE) of >> hiding the last character typed? > > I've never seen Konsole doing what you describe, but you might try > "Settings" -> "Edit current settings" in the menu and tweak it to your > preference. Maybe the color settings are garbled or something? Thanks, Marko. I tried some tweaking through "Settings" -> "Edit current settings", but no success. I am attaching a screen-shot, which shows the problem. Paul <>-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flowchart-ish tool
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> I am trying to create a visual aid for some complex relationships (not >> software, sorry). It would seem that some flowchart, or similar >> software, might assist. I need to show the relationships between items >> and groups of items, and I really don't want to do it by hand. >> >> Ideally I would identify a group of items as a group, so they could be >> place near one another or marked with the same color, or similar. Then I >> want to describe the relationship between them, (ex: 'depends on', or >> 'funds') and the relationship might look different from each end. Simple >> example A and B, from A B has relation 'child' while from B A has >> relation 'parent'. That term 'properties' seems to be used in some >> things I found, but I haven't gotten a solution. >> >> Does this ring a bell with anyone? Or even suggest a good manual tool, >> neither xfig nor gimp is ideal. >> > You might be able to do this in a mind-map tool like XMind. > http://xmind.net Is there some rpm of XMind available? Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Cursor of konsole hides last character
Dear All, Is there some workaround to prevent the cursor of konsole (KDE) of hiding the last character typed? Thanks in advance, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Macbook Air?
>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: >>>>> "Tom" == Tom H writes: Colin> Does anyone know how to get F12 to boot from the macbook Colin> Air, without resorting to Boot Camp (I can't afford the Colin> disk space to have both Mac OSX and linux installed)? Tom> I did some googling about this a while ago because a friend Tom> wanted to single-boot Ubuntu on her Mac Mini. She got cold Tom> feet and stuck to her dual-boot with rEFIt so the following Tom> is theoretical and from memory. Tom> (1) You have to keep sda as a gpt disk. Tom> ***start*** # parted (parted) print [if "partition table" is Tom> not "gpt] (parted) mktable gpt ***end*** Tom> (2) You have to move "/boot" to "/efi/boot" and it has to Tom> include a "boot.efi" (unsure of the exact name) grub Tom> binary/stage loader. Take a look at the structure of the Tom> Fedora 12 Live CD. (If you are booted from it, the "ro" not Tom> the "rw" mount.) Colin> Thanks Tom. That gives me something to dig into. Hm. According to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EFI "x86_64 installation | 99 | Install working now for Intel boxes, UEFI 2.1. Not working on MACs, untested on any other hardware platforms and likely to need further debug there." That "Not working on MACs" bit suggests that I'm not going to be able to do this. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Macbook Air?
> "Tom" == Tom H writes: Colin> Does anyone know how to get F12 to boot from the macbook Colin> Air, without resorting to Boot Camp (I can't afford the Colin> disk space to have both Mac OSX and linux installed)? Tom> I did some googling about this a while ago because a friend Tom> wanted to single-boot Ubuntu on her Mac Mini. She got cold Tom> feet and stuck to her dual-boot with rEFIt so the following Tom> is theoretical and from memory. Tom> (1) You have to keep sda as a gpt disk. Tom> ***start*** # parted (parted) print [if "partition table" is Tom> not "gpt] (parted) mktable gpt ***end*** Tom> (2) You have to move "/boot" to "/efi/boot" and it has to Tom> include a "boot.efi" (unsure of the exact name) grub Tom> binary/stage loader. Take a look at the structure of the Tom> Fedora 12 Live CD. (If you are booted from it, the "ro" not Tom> the "rw" mount.) Thanks Tom. That gives me something to dig into. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Macbook Air?
>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: >>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: >>>>> "Tom" == Tom H writes: >>>> But how to get the Air to try to boot from the USB port? Tom> Try booting with "c" pressed (it is supposed to be for Tom> CDs/DVDs but it might work with a bootable external drive Colin> I actually meant with a DVD drive, but probably forgot to Colin> say that in my original message. This works up to a Colin> point. That is, I can begin the installation process, but Colin> when loading the kernel from the DVD, it soon comes to a Colin> halt (this is with F11, 64-bit, purely investigatory, as I Colin> shall try with F12 once I have downloaded the ISO for Colin> that). Colin> I'm having better luck with F12. I'm staring at the Colin> configure-disk-partitions option screen, and wandering if I Colin> dare change the hfs+ volume to ext4 and proceed. But although installation completed OK, I was not able to get it to boot. The first time I left the EFI System partition intact on /dev/sda1, and accepted the default of installing the boot loading on /dev/sda2 (my /boot partition). The result was a light grey screen appeared, and after a while a darker-grey folder icon appeared in the centre, with a flashing question mark. I assumed it couldn't find the O/S or boot loader. I tried again, this time I deleted the EFI System partition and installed /boot on /dev/sda1. I installed the boot loader onto /dev/sda. Same result. So I resorted to re-installing Mac OSX, so as to have a usable machine. Does anyone know how to get F12 to boot from the macbook Air, without resorting to Boot Camp (I can't afford the disk space to have both Mac OSX and linux installed)? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dragging with 2 fingers for mac book pro touchpad
How can i do "dragging with two fingers" in Fedora 12 with the touchpad be sure that you have this package... xorg-x11-drv-synaptics check to see if you have two finger scrolling enabled with the utility gnome-mouse-properties... http://queuemail.com/gnome-mouse-properties.png http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/multitouch-on-synaptics-trackpad-on-linux/ also options no longer go in the xorg.conf and instead should be migrated to a hal fdi configuration; placed in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ http://queuemail.com/10-synaptics.fdi documentation for the configuration can be found in the manual pages http://linux.die.net/man/5/synaptics some other good general documentation can be found here... http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics this works on a mbp4,1... http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_734339f1-74c4-4607-a763-2ef2378ab19e hope that helps... cheers paul On 12/11/2009 12:04 AM, khemara lyn wrote: Dear All, Sorry if the topic has already been covered that i did not know off. How can i do "dragging with two fingers" in Fedora 12 with the touchpad of Mac Book Pro? I tried to follow this one: http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/multitouch-on-synaptics-trackpad-on-linux/ but it did not work. Any more pointers would be much appreciated. Thanks, Khem -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Macbook Air?
>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams writes: >>>>> "Tom" == Tom H writes: >>> But how to get the Air to try to boot from the USB port? Tom> Try booting with "c" pressed (it is supposed to be for Tom> CDs/DVDs but it might work with a bootable external drive Colin> I actually meant with a DVD drive, but probably forgot to Colin> say that in my original message. This works up to a Colin> point. That is, I can begin the installation process, but Colin> when loading the kernel from the DVD, it soon comes to a Colin> halt (this is with F11, 64-bit, purely investigatory, as I Colin> shall try with F12 once I have downloaded the ISO for Colin> that). I'm having better luck with F12. I'm staring at the configure-disk-partitions option screen, and wandering if I dare change the hfs+ volume to ext4 and proceed. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Macbook Air?
> "Tom" == Tom H writes: >> But how to get the Air to try to boot from the USB port? Tom> Try booting with "c" pressed (it is supposed to be for Tom> CDs/DVDs but it might work with a bootable external drive I actually meant with a DVD drive, but probably forgot to say that in my original message. This works up to a point. That is, I can begin the installation process, but when loading the kernel from the DVD, it soon comes to a halt (this is with F11, 64-bit, purely investigatory, as I shall try with F12 once I have downloaded the ISO for that). >> "Chad" == Chad Kellerman writes: Chad>When it comes to booting from a disk drive, I believe the Air only boot OS's Chad> from a Super Drive. ( I read that somewhere once..) Chad>I think you want to look at http://refit.sourceforge.net/ that has all the Chad> documentation you need Hm. It doesn't actually answer my question outright, but I think the answer is I can't do it - I will need to retain a minimal Mac OSX partition. :-( (I can't spare the disk space for two OSes, as I use the Air as a repository for digital photographs when on holiday. I filled the disk last year with one day to go of a fortnight in thailand - fortunately the 8GB memory card on the camera didn't fill on the last day). -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Macbook Air?
> "Dan" == Dan Burkland writes: Dan> I don't personally own a MacBook Air however I'm sure you Dan> could make a bootable USB drive and install Fedora from that. I don't have a USB stick of sufficient size. I do however have a USB disk drive which works fine with it. But how to get the Air to try to boot from the USB port? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora on Macbook Air?
Is there a way to install fedora on a Macbook air (as the sole operating system)? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kernel-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 causes kernel panic
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> Have you noticed this bug >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545043 > > Nope. Just updated and rebooted to check: > > [...@samlap ~]$ uname -a > Linux samlap.fireburst.co.uk 2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 4 > 00:06:26 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Funny modules loaded? Failure of dracut to build a correct initrd? Run > out of space on /boot? > > [...@samlap ~]$ ls -al /boot/*162* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 97986 2009-12-04 05:19 > /boot/config-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11286959 2009-12-07 22:17 > /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64.img > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1870388 2009-12-04 05:19 > /boot/System.map-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3423712 2009-12-04 05:19 > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 Thanks, Sam. On a different computer, I do not get the reported kernel panic. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kernel-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 causes kernel panic
Dear All, Have you noticed this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545043 ? Thanks in advance, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Board appointment
I am pleased to announce that Christopher Aillon will continue in his appointed seat on the Fedora Project Board for this cycle. His term will last until the selection process following the release of Fedora 14, in accordance with the Board's established succession planning. Christopher's presence on the Board has helped our discussions on a number of subjects over the past year, and I look forward to having him continue that relationship. Apologies for making this announcement slightly after the beginning of elections, due to the schedule change of elections and the intervening FUDCon activity. The remaining Board appointment will be made after the close of the Board elections. -- Paul W. Frields -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Difficulty setting up Fedora 12 screen
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: >> After installing Fedora 12 I am having problems setting up 1280x1024 >> screen resolution. Only 640x480 and 800x600 are available. I was >> using F11 at 1280x1024 on this hardware before upgrading to F12. >> After that, so far no joy. I would appreciate any helpful info. I >> have also tried using various configurations of the xorg.conf and >> xrandr without success. Obviously, I'm missing something. I feel >> certain that the fix is right under my nose but so far, nothing >> works. >> >> Here is my xorg.conf file: > ... > > Your /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be very helpful when diagnosing > resolution problems, and when using KMS (Kernel Mode-Setting), the > relevant parts of dmesg / var/log/messages. Have you tried to set your display with system-config-display ? Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:33:21PM +, Beartooth wrote: > On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:43:47 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > [] > >> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:52:26 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > [] > >> > Try restarting gnome-panel (assuming it's Gnome you're using) > >> > >>That's what I want all right -- and I am running Gnome. But how > >> do I do it? I can't even seem to get a CLI. Ssh into it from another > >> machine? > > > > Can you hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 (or F3, F4...) to get a terminal? > > I'd've sworn that was one of the things I had tried; but, be that > as it may, I did get a prompt this time. > > > If so, you > > can log in there, locally, to issue commands. > > I did that, as user. The only command I could think of at first > was "gnome-panel." That got me lots of options for help, but nothing I > could understand. I tried several likely-sounding ones anyway, but still > got nowhere. Right, gnome-panel won't run unless you're in a gnome-session (i.e. in the GUI). > > Some may not be as > > effective without the X environment variables set -- but at worst, if > > you had no work pending, you could kill the gnome-session and see if > > your panels return. (That's kind of an atomic bomb approach.) > > H I thought to try "startx" first. That told me X was > running, and what seemed to be the lock to remove. (There was a short > illegible line in there.) Right, although you could start a second one with: startx -- :1 > I tried "rm /tmp/.X0-lock255.255.0" and it seemed to think the > command should end with <...>lock ; I tried that; it wouldn't let me; I > did "su - " and tried again. Not the best idea while X is actually running. > That seemed to succeed, but "startx" got me a whole bunch of > stuff I couldn't make head nor tail of. > > So I tried the big hammer -- Ctrl-Alt-BS -- though I'm sure I had > before. It did nothing, afaict. You do need to use this key in the GUI itself for it to work, and the kill behavior has to be enabled. The default is that this old killer key combo is turned off. (The setting is in the System > Preferences > Keyboard tool). > So I tried "ps ax|grep X" -- and got a couple of numbers, one > obviously the command I had just given. I told it to kill the other. That > put me back (for the umpteenth time today) to a login screen. > > Logging in just put me back into my desert desktop. There are no > hide buttons nor anything else to show it ever heard of a panel -- and, > as I thought, Ctrl-Alt-Fx (for x = 2 - 7) does nothing afaict. Can you hit Alt-F2 to run a command? If so, you can try running 'gnome-terminal' to see if you can get a command line in the GUI. > I should perhaps mention that this machine (my #1) got royally, > unbootably bollixed a few days ago, and ended up with a fresh install of > F12 -- into which I began trying to scp /home/btth from #2 -- and messed > that up so that there seem to be several partial copies scattered all > over it in spots, to the point that the hard drive thinks it's > effectively full At any rate, "df -h" shows it far fuller than it > ought to be. Uh, yup -- it's possible that your GConf registry may be messed up then. (I thought not in another post but hadn't read this through yet, thanks for all the detail.) It's stored under ~/.gconf -- maybe you *should* move that to a backup, kill the session and try logging in again. > LATER : after another reboot, leaning hard and long on Ctrl-Alt- > F2 did get me another prompt; I logged in as root -- and am wondering > what to try next You don't need to be root to fix this. Log in as your normal user unless something is wrong with the actual system itself. So far it looks like the problem is with your normal user. To test that hypothesis, you could log in as root, add a new user: # useradd # passwd # enter new password twice # logout Then login the GUI as the new user. If everything works fine, chances are it's a user-related problem. Using root to fix things is not usually required for that, and you can do other damage or induce weird permission-related problems if you're not careful. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 06:36:52PM -0500, William Witt wrote: > On 12/03/2009 04:33 PM, Beartooth wrote: > > I should perhaps mention that this machine (my #1) got royally, > >unbootably bollixed a few days ago, and ended up with a fresh install of > >F12 -- into which I began trying to scp /home/btth from #2 -- and messed > >that up so that there seem to be several partial copies scattered all > >over it in spots, to the point that the hard drive thinks it's > >effectively full At any rate, "df -h" shows it far fuller than it > >ought to be. > > This is probably the problem. A partial copy or corrupted .gconf > directory. So try this: > > -After a reboot at the login screen press Crtl+Alt F2 > -Log in text mode with your user acct > -issue the folloing commands > mv .gconf bak.gconf > mv .gconfd bak.gconfd > mv .gnome2 bak.gnome2 > mv .gnome2_private bak.gnome2_private > > -This is the tactical nuke of gnome config problems. This will > force gnome to recreate your gnome configuration on next login > -Press Crtl-Alt F1 and you should be back at the GUI login screen, > so log in again and see if you have panels. All of your old config > settings are stored in th bak. directories so you can selectively > copy them over if you have something (like f-spot) that is not easy > to just reconfigure. > > Hopefully this helps Yikes, that's a LOT of work for this one problem, and a lot of customization to comb through later. *At most* you would want to backup .gconf/apps/panel -- not the whole kit 'n' kaboodle. Still not sure that's necessary though. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with Okular?
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Henrique Koesjan wrote: > sorry, mimeTypes.rdf not mimeType.rdf > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Henrique Koesjan wrote: >> Hi Paul, >> >> I don't know if it is the best way to do that, but you can: >> close thunderbird >> go to: >> ~/.thunderbird/ >> there is a directory like ??.default or other name (your profile folder). >> There is a file called mimeType.rdf >> >> make a backup of it: cp mimeType.rdf mimeType.rdf.backup >> gedit mimeType.rdf >> >> look for some lines like that: >> > RDF:about="urn:mimetype:externalApplication:application/pdf" >> NC:prettyName="" >> NC:path="" /> >> >> change to: >> > RDF:about="urn:mimetype:externalApplication:application/pdf" >> NC:prettyName="okular" >> NC:path="/usr/bin/okular" /> >> >> save and close gedit, and exit terminal. >> >> open thunderbird, and next time you will be prompted to open, you can >> choose okular and if you want memorize this decision. >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Paul Smith wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> >>> I would like to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with >>> Okular. However, I cannot find any entry for the pdf type in the tab >>> Attachments of the Preferences window. Any ideas? Thanks, Henrique and Steven. I have just deleted my mimeTypes.rdf, and apparently everything seems to be working: Okular is the default Thunderbird application to open pdf attachments. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 08:04:55PM +, BeartoothHOS wrote: > On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:52:26 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Beartooth > > wrote: > > > > > >>I don't know what I did that made my panels go away -- but I > >>need > >> them back. > >> > >>All I see is the bare desktop, with launchers for Computer, my > >> user's home, and the trash. > >> > >>I need my left (originally top) and bottom panels. How do I get > >> them back?? > >> > >> > > Try restarting gnome-panel (assuming it's Gnome you're using) > > That's what I want all right -- and I am running Gnome. But how > do I do it? I can't even seem to get a CLI. Ssh into it from another > machine? Can you hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 (or F3, F4...) to get a terminal? If so, you can log in there, locally, to issue commands. Some may not be as effective without the X environment variables set -- but at worst, if you had no work pending, you could kill the gnome-session and see if your panels return. (That's kind of an atomic bomb approach.) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with Okular?
Dear All, I would like to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with Okular. However, I cannot find any entry for the pdf type in the tab Attachments of the Preferences window. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Hiisi wrote: >> I can also recommend VirtualBox. I am running XP on VirtualBox, which >> is fast and simple. >> > Can you, virtualisation gurus, point me out how to set up shared > folder in VirtualBox for guest Window$ XP? It looks like an easy task > but I'm unable to see it anywhere from within guest system. You just need to install Guest Additions: http://seogadget.co.uk/how-to-install-virtualbox-guest-additions/ Afterwards, set the directory to be shared in the virtual machine settings. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> Can someone point me to a good step by step howto to set up Windows XP >> installed from an iso in a VM in F12 using kvm. There are some XP >> applications that only work in XP itself rather than in wine or Crossover. >> >> I have not tinkered with virtualised machines before so this is a learning >> curve for me. > > If this is your first time, I can suggest to try out VirtualBox: > > yum install VirtualBox-OSE > > (it's in rpmfusion-free repo). It is far more user-friendly (from my POV) for > a first-timer. > > Read the manuals in order to learn what is possible. After your first install, > you'll probably figure out that you could have made better choices in some > areas etc., and you'll probably go make another VM, and another, and... :-) > > I remember that my third VM install was pretty much perfect for me (it was > under VMWare at the time). Now under VirtualBox I have it all working, even 3D > acceleration (games and such). > > It's typically faster to install XP from an .iso file than from the CD drive > itself. Clean, fast and useful. > > All in all, it's really easy, and fun to do! :-) > >> It is not clear where the virtualised machine would get installed by >> default - but it looks like it would be in /var/lib/libvirt/images which >> is on the root partition in my case so I made a new directory in a bigger >> partition with plenty of space, and bind mounted it ahead of trying to >> create a new VM. > > KVM has that path as default. AFAIK, the problem is that if you change it, > SELinux will start yelling at you --- be prepared to deal with it, chcon your > custom directory, semanage policies etc... VirtualBox doesn't have those > problems. ;-) I can also recommend VirtualBox. I am running XP on VirtualBox, which is fast and simple. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cifs with no writing permissions
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Steve Searle wrote: >> I have just upgraded from F11 to F12, and now when I mount a samba >> partition with command >> >> mount -t cifs -o iocharset=iso8859-1,user="xxx",rw //xxx /mnt/mydir >> >> I do not have writing permissions on the mounted directory. >> >> Any ideas? > > This works for me: > > mount -t cifs -o > credentials=/etc/samba/steve.cred,exec,uid=steve,gid=steve,dir_mode=0755,file_mode=0644 > //peregrine/img2 /img.peregrine > > Have a look at the two mode arguments. Thanks, Steve. With inserting the uid and the gid, the problem was solved. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Cifs with no writing permissions
Dear All, I have just upgraded from F11 to F12, and now when I mount a samba partition with command mount -t cifs -o iocharset=iso8859-1,user="xxx",rw //xxx /mnt/mydir I do not have writing permissions on the mounted directory. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11 Thunderbird 3 beta 4
Does anyone know when there will be an upgrade beyond Thunderbird 3 beta 4? My main problem with it is that the ability to "run filter now" button is no longer functioning. A Bugzilla report has been filed some time ago, but I see no indication of when a new version of Thunderbird will be available for F11 which will fix the problem. Have I missed something somewhere? -- ---- cheers, Paul - VA7NT - email: va...@telus.net "Those who hear not the music, think the dancers mad." “Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” - Thomas Mann "That state which separates it's warriors from it's scholars will have it's thinking done by cowards and fighting done by fools" - Thucydides - The Pelopenisia "The Malice of the wicked is reinforced by the weakness of the virtuous." - Churchill -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is /boot size a concern for just preupgrade or all upgrades ?
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Craig White wrote: >> Is there a difference in the /boot size requirement for different >> upgrade methods ? >> >> Ie does upgrading from the DVD iso take less room on /boot than doing a >> preupgrade via yum ? > > from DVD, upgrading doesn't require any real amount of space beyond that > needed for a kernel install. > > from preupgrade, it needs space to download the stage 2 boot but if you > have a wired connection, preupgrade can download the stage 2 boot on the > fly if you don't have enough space in /boot In my case, even with the installation DVD, the complaint about not enough space for /boot showed up, breaking the installation procedure. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ext4fs
there is no problem what so ever with a mix of file systems on linux, so you can simply continue with your ext3 /home if you want. paul 2009/11/23 david walcroft > I am going to clean install fc12 but I don't know how to > handle this situation,my /home is ext3fs and I want format the rest of my > directories as ext4fs,will the two fs get on together > or am I going to format everything as ext4 and use my /home backup. > If I use my dvd backup,what command do I use to transfer the data > from the dvd to my harddrive and do I have to do it in ctrl-alt-F2 > CLI > > david > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No F-12 NFS mounts at boot -
maybe you can start using autofs, then there is no need for hard mounting in your fstab, and this will also solve your problem 2009/11/24 Tom H > > NFS has worked for me without many problems from F10 to F11 but on > > the new F12 install I have to mount nfs manually after boot. > > fstab may be trying to mount your nfs mounts before the network is up. > If this is the case, adding "_netdev" to your nfs mounts will solve > your problem. > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: preupgrade: after reboot, merely back to old system
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:38:44PM -0500, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 240, in > on_assistant_apply > self._do_main() > File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 259, in _do_main > self.main_preupgrade() > File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 436, in main_preupgrade > download_progressbar=self.dnlProgress) > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line > 130, in setup > self.complete_repo_setup() > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line > 328, in complete_repo_setup > repo._grabfunc.opts.user_agent = __user_agent__ > AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'opts' See this bug for details and a workaround: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538118 -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
