Re: Proxies with Linux?
Am Freitag, den 28.11.2008, 17:46 +0100 schrieb Carlos Carrero Gutierrez: Hi, i would like to use proxies with my browser but Iceweasel and Ephifany don't have the configuration for this. How can i use proxies in Linux? What browser could i use? Well, I don't use epiphany or iceweasel, but firefox and konqueror, they handle proxies. You have options. - Set System/Configuration/InternetNetwork/Network Proxy (on the fedora gnome main menu button) - $ http_proxy=http://192.168.1.1:3128 epiphany - $ http_proxy=http://192.168.1.1:3128 iceweasel (on this last two you must replace your IP/Port right values) - Ask for a transparent proxy to your administrator - google for epiphany/iceweasel under a proxy... Cheers. -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Die Arznei macht kranke, die Mathematik traurige und die Theologie sündhafte Leute. - Martin Luther -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum/rpm triggers segment violation
Am Montag, den 24.11.2008, 16:03 -0600 schrieb Aaron Konstam: On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 16:06 -0400, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: Hi. On friday I've installed a fedora9(i386). After yum update and rebooting, both yum and rpm commands show segment violation, only rpm --usage works. What does:only rpm usage works mean? # rpm --usage Verwendung: rpm [-aKfgpWHqVcdilsaKfgpWHqVKiv?] [-a|--all] [-f|--file] [-g|--group] [-p|--package] [-W|--ftswalk] [--pkgid] [--hdrid] [--fileid] [--specfile] [--triggeredby] [--whatrequires] [--whatprovides] [--nomanifest] [-c|--configfiles] [-d|--docfiles] [--dump] [-l|--list] [--queryformat=QUERYFORMAT] [-s|--state] [--nomd5] [--nofiles] [--nodeps] [--noscript] [--comfollow] [--logical] [--nochdir] [--nostat] [--physical] [--seedot] [--xdev] [--whiteout] [--addsign] [-K|--checksig] [--delsign] [--import] [--resign] [--nodigest] [--nosignature] [--initdb] [--rebuilddb] [--aid] [--allfiles] [--allmatches] [--badreloc] [-e|--erase Paket+] [--excludedocs] [--excludepath=Pfad] [--fileconflicts] [--force] [-F|--freshen Paket-Datei+] [-h|--hash] [--ignorearch] [--ignoreos] [--ignoresize] [-i|--install] [--justdb] [--nodeps] [--nomd5] [--nocontexts] [--noorder] [--nosuggest] [--noscripts] [--notriggers] [--oldpackage] [--percent] [--prefix=Verzeichnis] [--relocate=alter Pfad=neuer Pfad] [--repackage] [--replacefiles] [--replacepkgs] [--test] [-U|--upgrade Paket-Datei+] [--quiet] [-D|--define 'MAKRO AUSDRUCK'] [-E|--eval 'AUSDRUCK'] [--macros=DATEI:...] [--nodigest] [--nosignature] [--rcfile=DATEI:...] [-r|--root WURZELVERZEICHNIS] [--querytags] [--showrc] [--quiet] [-v|--verbose] [--version] [-?|--help] [--usage] [--scripts] [--setperms] [--setugids] [--conflicts] [--obsoletes] [--provides] [--requires] [--info] [--changelog] [--xml] [--triggers] [--last] [--dupes] [--filesbypkg] [--fileclass] [--filecolor] [--filecontext] [--fscontext] [--recontext] [--fileprovide] [--filerequire] [--redhatprovides] [--redhatrequires] [--buildpolicy=Richtlinie] [--with=Option] [--without=Option] -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
yum/rpm triggers segment violation
Hi. On friday I've installed a fedora9(i386). After yum update and rebooting, both yum and rpm commands show segment violation, only rpm --usage works. What should I do? -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: EeePC - to Fedora or not?
Am Sonntag, den 12.10.2008, 14:24 +0100 schrieb Timothy Murphy: I recently acquired an Asus EeePC-1000 (the Linux version with a 40GB SSD). I don't really like the Linux system running on the machine, and am thinking about installing Fedora instead or in addition. What are you planning to use the eee for? *If you want to use for development, work in your office, I wouldn't encourage it, the SSD behaves too slow. Obviously, there you need fedora. But I think that's not the purpose of an eee. Starting from the keyboard size, it's too little in any sense for hard working. * But if you prefer home usage, fun, reading, etc., Xandros is enough. You have a nice wiki (wiki.eeeuser.com), with fixes for almost everything. The eee was designed for that. I use it for studying. I installed F9, and it was really cool. But slow. And need recompiling the ath driver on each kernel upgrade. So I turned back to Xandros, hack a little (eeeuser.com), and I'm happy. What actually are the advantages of Fedora in this case? The Fedora full- experience. But somehow slow. Xandros is really faster. Also, will I have any problems with WiFi, I used to compile the ath driver. If you follow the instructions on the Fedora eee wiki, almost everything works. Not the mic. But I did'nt need it. Xandros installs Firefox 2, enough for the eee. But fedora gets Firefox 3, which turns slower. which works very well in the current system? As I said, if you follow the F9 eee wiki hacks, everything but the mic. The wifi driver needs recompiling each kernel upgrade. Compiz works great. Games as foobilliard or Mame runs very well. You have always updated versions of all software. Xandros holds some old software. Farewell :) -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Es gibt kein unmoralisches Buch. Bücher sind gut geschrieben oder schlecht geschrieben. Das ist alles. - Oscar Wilde -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] EeePC - to Fedora or not?
Am Montag, den 13.10.2008, 13:09 +0100 schrieb Timothy Murphy: Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: What are you planning to use the eee for? I use laptops mostly to connect by WiFi to a server desktop, which holds my email and runs a web server. I also keep most files on another computer, which I access by NFS. Ok, suppose Xandros will do ok. I haven't found any mention of NFS or even ssh on the EeePC so far, but I guess they must be there somewhere. Also I'd like to have an xterm or konsole window, but I don't see that either. Hmm. I have the impression you didn't read enough before asking. CTRLALT-T to open a console. http://wiki.eeeuser.com/addingxandrosrepos to add additional repositories; $ sudo synaptic to install additional software. If you need even more, some Debian repos could also be installed. You can activate the full desktop, with menus with: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:getkde#enable_advanced_desktop_mode_-_the_easy_way I don't really want to use Star Office to write documents; it seems to take rather a long time to open for one thing. Star Office? Xandros and Fedora come with OpenOffice. The same wiki has instructions to upgrade to last version on Xandros. If you don't like OpenOffice, with synaptic you can select another (abiword, lyx... hehehe). At the moment I'm not sure if the applications I want are not there, or just that I haven't found them yet. *If you want to use for development, work in your office, I wouldn't encourage it, the SSD behaves too slow. Obviously, there you need fedora. But I think that's not the purpose of an eee. Starting from the keyboard size, it's too little in any sense for hard working. I don't actually mind the keyboard. Ok. But that's not the only matter. But as you said, you don't need it for a heavy work. I suggest you to try Xandros. What you need has no effect on the election of Fedora vs. Xandros. I prefer Fedora, I use it on all my machines, except the eee. My favourite computer for all time was the Sony Picturebook (C series) which if anything is a bit smaller. Nice, didn't see it. On google images, the computer seems littler, and the keyboard seems bigger than the eee's (NO TOUCHPAD!) Greets! -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Es gibt kein unmoralisches Buch. Bücher sind gut geschrieben oder schlecht geschrieben. Das ist alles. - Oscar Wilde -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Reboot every 1 hour, 19 seconds
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 09:48 -0500 schrieb Arthur Pemberton: When was the last time you dismantled and cleaned the machine? Arthur: Three monts ago? Seems clean, though. - I changed the memory DIMMs. - Disconnected the machine electrig plug. - Pushed RESET button for about a minute. I repeat: since the power outage, it reboots every 1.00.19, approx. Tim: could not be a cron issue, that would lead to exactly 1 hour rebooting. Every 3 reboots means 3 hours and a minute (look my previous logs). # ls -l /etc/cron.hourly/ total 0 # at -l # uname -r 2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 # -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Es gibt kein großes Genie ohne einen Schuss Verrücktheit. - Aristoteles -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Reboot every 1 hour, 19 seconds
HELP! On October 2, 10:00 we had a power outage (I turned my PC on at 17:00). Since then, my Fedora9 is rebooting approx every hour and 19 seconds. - imklog is the first line every reboot: # cat /var/log/messages*|grep imklog # ... Sep 30 07:06:48 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Sep 30 08:10:29 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 2 17:06:09 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 2 18:06:24 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 2 19:06:42 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 2 20:06:59 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 2 21:07:16 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 2 22:07:34 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 2 23:07:52 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 3 00:08:11 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 3 01:08:28 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 3 02:08:45 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. ... (and so on) No useful information before reboot: # less /var/log/messages-20081006 ... Oct 2 17:10:38 rodolfoap ntpd[2784]: kernel time sync status change 0001 Oct 2 17:11:20 rodolfoap ntpd[2784]: Listening on interface #6 virbr0, fe80::8820:8aff:fe6d:b84e#123 Enabled Oct 2 17:11:20 rodolfoap ntpd[2784]: Listening on interface #7 virbr0, 192.168.122.1#123 Enabled Oct 2 17:14:59 rodolfoap ntpd[2784]: synchronized to 200.144.121.33, stratum 2 Oct 2 18:06:24 rodolfoap kernel: imklog 3.18.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Oct 2 18:06:24 rodolfoap rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd swVersion=3.18.1 x-pid=2306 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] restart Oct 2 18:06:24 rodolfoap kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset Oct 2 18:06:24 rodolfoap kernel: Linux version 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 (mockbuild@) (gcc version 4.3.0 20080428 (Red Hat 4.3.0-8) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Wed Sep 3 03:42:27 EDT 2008 ... - Could not be a crontab problem, since it reboots approx every 1:00:19, anyway, no crontab entries. - atq is empty - Can't find something on /var/logs Where else can I look? Could it be a hardware problem HELP! -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Es gibt kein großes Genie ohne einen Schuss Verrücktheit. - Aristoteles -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SOLVED] Reboot every 1 hour, 19 seconds: NVRAM
...it's past more than 2 hours and it didn't reboot. I read somewhere that this could be a NVRAM issue, so I entered the BIOS setup, made some changes, and F10 - SAVE CHANGES. That was all. I hope it keeps working smooth. Thanks everybody. Good luck! -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Ein Mann kann mit jeder Frau glücklich sein, solange er sie nicht liebt. - Oscar Wilde -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Reboot every 1 hour, 19 seconds
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 12:02 -0400 schrieb rgheck: Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: could not be a cron issue, that would lead to exactly 1 hour rebooting. the machine is going to reboot exactly 1 hour after it has successfully started. Damn right. Didn't noticed that. Anyway, I suppose crontab can't be, because time shifts: # cat /var/log/messages|grep imklog|cut -f 1,2,3,4 -d Oct 6 04:24:27 Oct 6 04:30:41 Oct 6 05:30:58 Oct 6 06:31:17 Oct 6 07:31:38 Oct 6 08:32:30 Oct 6 09:33:13 Oct 6 10:35:13 Oct 6 11:36:37 Oct 6 12:36:58 Oct 6 13:37:14 Oct 6 14:37:33 Oct 6 15:37:52 Oct 6 16:38:09 Oct 6 17:38:27 Oct 6 18:38:43 Oct 6 19:39:01 Oct 6 20:39:20 Oct 6 21:39:38 Oct 6 22:39:56 Oct 6 23:40:12 Oct 7 00:40:31 Oct 7 01:40:49 Oct 7 02:41:06 Oct 7 03:41:24 Oct 7 04:41:46 Oct 7 05:42:00 Oct 7 06:42:19 Oct 7 07:42:39 Oct 7 08:42:54 Oct 7 09:43:13 As, I said, the problem is solved, just by saving some BIOS changes. My motherboard has a Wake on alarm feature, which could be programmed -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Verrückte und Chefs haben immer Recht. - Aus Venedig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: display hw info from command line
Am Mittwoch, den 01.10.2008, 11:18 -0400 schrieb Mark Haney: I've been looking at sysinfo, hwinfo and others, but most of those seem dead development wise. So are there any recent ones Ive missed? maybe lshw? not so easy-to-read format, though... -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Ein Computer kann alles was du willst, solange du nur willst was er kann. - Unbekannter Autor -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Annoyance: upper right corner
Hi :) I have the desktop effects activated. But when I touch, by mistake, the upper right corner with the mouse pointer, the windows picker starts. Googled, installed ccsm, deactivated the option (ccsm/Window Management/Scale/bindings/Initiate Window Picker: all disabled), but it still keeps the same nasty behaviour. Where can I disable this window picker? Thanks a lot. -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- „Jazz ist nicht tot, meine Damen und Herren, er riecht nur komisch.“ – Frank Zappa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: f9 on eee pc 901?
Am Freitag, den 04.07.2008, 10:28 -0400 schrieb fred smith: On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 09:29:17AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Anyone tried it? Didn't think the 901 was available yet. Do you have one? Yeee! Mine (eee900) is arriving in 15 days. I've saved this link, Fedora 8 on eee to proceed as soon as she gets on my desk: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2j8bn/eeePC-F8.html please, tell us how did you did. If you write a howto, i can help u with when installing mine. May the force be with your eee. -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Ein Mann kann mit jeder Frau glücklich sein, solange er sie nicht liebt. - Oscar Wilde -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: nv/nvidia+antialiasing fonts (was: Weird scrambled fonts)
Bug reports: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450698 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449867 Attachments in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=303418 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=308310 -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- »Freie Software« ist eine Frage der Freiheit, nicht des Preises. »Frei« im Sinne von »Redefreiheit«, nicht im Sinne von »Freibier«. - Richard Stallman zugeschrieben über Open Source -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Weird scrambled fonts
Am Mittwoch, den 11.06.2008, 23:01 -0600 schrieb Eric Brunson: Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: Morning. Some of my fonts looks weirdly scrambled: http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/ Why could that be? freetype-freworld? I noticed it both with and without freetype-freeworld. We're discussing it on FedoraForum and trying to find a common thread. I see it on three machines, all are using kmod-nvidia from livna as well as another user on the forum, are you? I made some tests, and concluded this behavior appears ONLY when using monochrome fonts, with nvidia and nv drivers, please see: http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/config.png I tried my tests with nvidia driver and with nv. I see the scrambling on the only PC with NVIDIA I have. Currently Im not using kmod-nvidia, but nv (I think its the nouveau driver), and can see this behavior. Please see http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/abiword2.png which I took today, with this xorg.conf: # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep -v ^$ Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib/xorg/modules EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AIGLX on EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us Option XkbVariant intl EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nv EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection # lsmod|grep nv # rpm -qa|grep nv gnome-python2-canvas-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386 NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.0-10.svn3632.fc9.i386 libgnomecanvas-2.20.1.1-2.fc9.i386 libgnomecanvasmm26-2.22.0-1.fc9.i386 openvpn-2.1-0.25.rc7.fc9.i386 libgnomecanvas-devel-2.20.1.1-2.fc9.i386 xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.8-1.fc9.i386 Eric, thanks a lot. Please refer to my reply in the forum if you need. Best regards! -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Reine Mathematik ist Religion. - Novalis, Fragmente -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: nv/nvidia+antialiasing fonts (was: Weird scrambled fonts)
Am Donnerstag, den 12.06.2008, 07:28 -0400 schrieb Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo: Am Mittwoch, den 11.06.2008, 23:01 -0600 schrieb Eric Brunson: Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: Morning. Some of my fonts looks weirdly scrambled: http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/ Why could that be? freetype-freworld? I noticed it both with and without freetype-freeworld. We're discussing it on FedoraForum and trying to find a common thread. I see it on three machines, all are using kmod-nvidia from livna as well as another user on the forum, are you? Just tracking the FedoraForum thread: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=189695highlight=fonts -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Die höchste Form des Glücks ist ein Leben mit einem gewissen Grad an Verrücktheit. - Erasmus von Rotterdam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Wiki Support?
Am Dienstag, den 10.06.2008, 19:55 +1000 schrieb David Timms: Jonathan Allen wrote: Is there a mailing list like this one for supporting a Wiki running on Fedora? I have done the installation of the latest version but hit this error: Fatal error: Class 'DOMDocument' not found in /share/wiki/includes/Preprocessor_DOM.php on 566 how did you install ? which wiki server ? I needed this, with mediaWiki: # yum install php-xml # service httpd restart -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Mein Homer ist kein Kommunist. Er ist vielleicht ein Lügner, ein Schwein, ein Idiot und ein Kommunist, aber er ist ganz sicherlich kein Porno-Star! - Abraham Simpson -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
