Re: su hangs for 30 seconds
As of a day or so ago su has started hanging for 30 seconds. So has the lock screen. Jiggling the mouse unblanks the monitor and shows me the backdrop picture but the password entry box doesn't appear for 30 seconds. I don't believe I mucked with anything PAM related, but there were a few yum updates in the last few days. Is anyone else seeing this? -wolfgang Hello Everyone I am running Fedora 12, fully updated, and I have NOT seen that behavior on our system. But, I also run Fedora Rawhide in Sun's VirtualBox. Until a few minutes ago, I had been experiencing that behavior. I then proceeded to disable SELinux, choosing to relabel upon the next reboot (of the virtual machine, of course.) The result was that the SU hanging for 30 seconds issue was totally fixed. Now that is how my virutal machine of Rawhide was set up, and that is how I fixed the SU issue. That is not to say that SELinux has anything to do with the issue that the rest of you are seeing. Oh, almost forgot: my Fedora 12 system, which has never had the issue of SU hanging for 30 seconds, has had SELinux disabled since very shortly after I did the install. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 KDE - slow response when clicking task bar items
Hello Everyone, On November 26, 2009, Craig White wrote: Since I upgraded to F12, I have noticed that it is very slow to respond to clicks in the task bar - i.e., a long delay if I click the 'fedora' start button or any of the applications in the 'Task Switcher' widget. Discernibly slower than F11 FWIW, I am booting with nomodesetting option and using 'nv' driver with an xorg.conf setting (the same as I was using in F11) because I simply cannot get 1280x1024 with the nouveau driver, even with 'nomodesetting' boot option. Anyone else notice this? Is there something I am doing wrong? I've noticed exactly the same behaviour, and its driving me nuts... clicking on the Start Menu takes ~10-15s to pop up, but starting apps on my panel by clicking on the icon works nice and fast. KRunner also takes ~10-15s to appear if I hit ALT-F2, and more often than not bringing up the desktop context menu is fast but it then stalls when trying to disappear again. First off, this bug specifically refers to the use of the binary NVidia driver, which I know at least one of the posters on this thread says that they are not using. But, the manifestations described are just like what you all are describing, and they are exactly what I WAS experiencing with Fedora 12: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533620 Also, check this out: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#Problems_when_using_KDE_with_the_proprietary_NVIDIA_graphics_driver.2C_some_Radeon_dual- head_configurations.2C_or_nouveau_with_KMS_disabled In addition, I needed to follow the steps that appear under the Fedora 12 Special Notes section on the below linked page: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html Applying the information contained in the above links fixed my problem, which at least LOOKS exactly like what you are describing. If you have any questions about the various test builds of xorg that are involved in making all of this possible, I will get back to you after I get home from work today... Steven P. Ulrick P.S.: For some reason I have been having issues with KDE's KMail and the breaking of links. So at least one of the above quoted links might be broken... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Prius Gas Mileage
The gas mileage on my Prius has slowly declined from about 40 mpg when I bought it in 2005 (2d hand, it's a 2004 model year) to about 35 mpg today. Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas why? It could, of course, be just that I'm paying less attention to driving for good gas mileage, or have let the pressure in the tires go down, but I don't think so. Thanks - jon Hello Everyone I hope this doesn't seem off topic... But my wife told me about this: http://www.thestar.com/wheels/article/730933--toyota-launches-massive-u-s-recall Well, the recall does relate to the proper/improper functioning of the gas pedal... Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Prius Gas Mileage
The gas mileage on my Prius has slowly declined from about 40 mpg when I bought it in 2005 (2d hand, it's a 2004 model year) to about 35 mpg today. Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas why? It could, of course, be just that I'm paying less attention to driving for good gas mileage, or have let the pressure in the tires go down, but I don't think so. Thanks - jon Hello Everyone I hope this doesn't seem off topic... But my wife told me about this: http://www.thestar.com/wheels/article/730933--toyota-launches-massive-u-s- recall Well, the recall does relate to the proper/improper functioning of the gas pedal... Steven P. Ulrick And this is from Toyota themselves: http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-consumer-safety- advisory-102572.aspx Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nvidia issue: no compositing, libGLcore.so.1 not found
On 23/11/09 11:40, Neal Becker wrote: Installed from rpmfusion: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-190.42-2.fc12.x86_64 Also xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.1-7.fc12.2.rex.x86_64 Working, but compositing is disabled. Looked at log, found: (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so dlopen: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so Any ideas? xorg.conf is default nvidia, with: Option AIGLX on and Option Composite Enable Compositing is disabled for a good reason, it's not working, as I found out. It caused KDE to be almost cripplingly slow. No doubt when this is fixed it will be moved out of RPMFusion nonfree testing. It is for this reason I have only updated my Laptop to Fedora 12 and not my PC, and that upgrade was not a pleasant experience, most of the time spend sorting out the ensuing problems. My advice, you need to be patient and wait until those Fedora dev folks sort it out, when it will be released into RPMFusion nonfree release. Hello Everyone I am running Fedora 12 (fresh install, not an upgrade...) and KDE 4.3.2 (the version that ships with Fedora 12. Using the previous versions of the xorg RPMS from Rex's repo, compositing is working great here. My system has an 2.0GHZ Intel Xeon QuadCore processor, 8gigs of RAM and an NVidia based video card that has about 512MB of RAM on it. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: missing CPUs -- kernel-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64
Hi, I just updated to the latest kernel in the updates of Fedora 11 and the system is no longer using the 2 quad-core chips The system is no longer seen as an SMP system using kernel-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64 Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys ns Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys memory Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys devices Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys freezer Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys net_cls Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: CPU: L2 Cache: 512K (64 bytes/line) Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: CPU 0/0x0 - Node 0 Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0 Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: CPU: Processor Core ID: 0 Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: using C1E aware idle routine Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: SMP alternatives: switching to UP code Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Freeing SMP alternatives: 31k freed Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: ACPI: Core revision 20090320 Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 8ca0) Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: ftrace: converting mcount calls to 0f 1f 44 00 00 Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: ftrace: allocating 19364 entries in 76 pages Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Failed to register trace ftrace module notifier Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Setting APIC routing to flat Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: weird, boot CPU (#0) not listed by the BIOS. Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: SMP motherboard not detected. Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Setting APIC routing to flat Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: SMP disabled Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Brought up 1 CPUs Nov 16 11:27:41 nikka kernel: Total of 1 processors activated (4423.16 BogoMIPS). On the same system the older kernel works fine: 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64 On identical hardware but different server also running Fedora 11; this kernel works fine: 2.6.30.9-90.fc11.x86_64 Is this broken?: 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64 Hello Kevin I appear to be running the same kernel (2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64) My processor is a single Intel Xeon 2.0Ghz QuadCore. The following seems to show that this kernel is not causing me the same grief that it is causing you: [r...@localhost log]# grep -i processor messages Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: Detected 1995.181 MHz processor. Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: CPU: Processor Core ID: 0 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: Booting processor 1 APIC 0x2 ip 0x6000 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: CPU: Processor Core ID: 1 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: Booting processor 2 APIC 0x4 ip 0x6000 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: CPU: Processor Core ID: 2 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: Booting processor 3 APIC 0x6 ip 0x6000 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: CPU: Processor Core ID: 3 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: Total of 4 processors activated (15956.88 BogoMIPS). Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: processor ACPI_CPU:00: registered as cooling_device0 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: processor ACPI_CPU:01: registered as cooling_device1 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: processor ACPI_CPU:02: registered as cooling_device2 Nov 15 19:31:49 localhost kernel: processor ACPI_CPU:03: registered as cooling_device3 [r...@localhost log]# Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: *^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
Here is another one that doesn't work in Konqueror and does in Firefox. http://www.traction.com/en/viewpdf?cp=O31 s=[k] Here's what I get when I go to http://www.traction.com/en/viewpdf?cp=O31 : http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090916-Konqueror-ScreenShot-001.jpg I included Help | About Konqueror in the screenshot so everyone could tell what version I am running. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to collect update report in FC11
Dear all is there any way to collect update reports in fedora 11 ... I mean to say that how do I have the list of packages which has upgraded/installed/updated in last update session ( which new software is installed or updated in the session ) /var/log/yum.log (if you are using yum, of course...) Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 10:53:56 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: On Friday 28 August 2009 07:50:02 Anne Wilson wrote: Well, now I have a new problem. I have three desktops that each have a different image on the background. This is good. My fourth desktop also has a different image on it (again, this is good), BUT all the plasmoids have disappeared from it! Actually, it is more like this: Desktop 1: All the plasmoids have disappeared. Desktop 2: All the plasmoids remain on the desktop, but in different positions and different sizes. Desktop 3: one of the plasmoids has actually become the size of the entire desktop (with no way to re-size it) and the other plasmoids are still there, and can be re-sized and moved around just like a normal plasmoid. Desktop 4: Same as Desktop 2 OK, I just discovered that one of the desktops had been changed to Folder View (That would have been Desktop 3) So, after changing that back to Desktop View, Desktops 2, 3 4 now have all the original plasmoids. Unfortunately, like mentioned above, they were randomly rearranged, and I will also have to re-size them. Desktop 1 still is nothing but a blank image. All the plasmoids had disappeared. Anyway, I need to get to work now :) They are now Activities, not simple Desktops. Before, plasmoids were on all desktops, but if you want your desktops for different purposes you probably neither need nor want all on every desktop. Activities are independent. On each desktop place the plasmoids that fit the kind of work you do on that desktop. :-) Hello Anne :) You will be gratified to know that after I got home from work, I played around a little bit with Activities. After just a few minutes, I feel that I understand them very well. Could they have a better name than Activities? Probably. Are there no issues with the implementation that we now know as Activities? No, there are real issues. But the important thing in my mind is that now I understand HOW to use this feature, and I also understand that to compare the relative difficulty in using this feature to the real ease of setting different background for each desktop in KDE 3.* is to compare apples and oranges... As I understand it, this is how it works in a test account that I just set up on my system for this purpose: 1. Click on the little cashew thingy in the upper right hand corner of the desktop. 2. Select Zoom out 3. From the menu that now appears in the upper left hand corner, choose Configure Plasma 4. On the dialog that comes up, check Different activity for each desktop and click OK Four new Activities were immediately placed on the display. 5. Set Backgrounds, add widgets to taste. (There seems to be two ways to do this. Also, all I am trying to do now is eliminate SOME of the mystery behind Activities... If you select Zoom Out from the original desktop, your original desktop becomes one of your new Activities, all accessible from your friendly little pager... If you select Zoom Out from one of your NEW activities, your original desktop is NOT included amongst the desktops that are accessible from your pager. If you choose this option, your original desktop is NOT deleted. It just is not displayed in your pager. In fact, you can keep your new activities, and go back to using your old desktop if you choose, with no fear of losing your new activities... But I have NO idea what Use a separate dashboard on the Configure Plasma menu means... The cool part to all this (for me anyway,) is that before, you could only have different programs open on different desktops. You always had the same icons. With KDE4, you can have completely different plasmoids and icons on as many desktops as you can configure. To accomplish the same thing under KDE 3.*, I think you would have had to have different users for different purposes. Anyway, thank you Anne for informing us of this feature. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 07:50:02 Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 28 August 2009 04:22:23 Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 20:21:55 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:02:34 Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Not, I am told, with recent versions of KDE. Wah. Yes, you can now. I do have. I have Air on Desktop1 and blue-sun-m on Desktop 2. This wasn't available before KDE 4.3 as far as I know. Hello Anne I am running the KDE 4.3 that ships with Fedora 11. I do not see how to put different images on different virtual desktops. Any help is appreciated. Hmm - I just added extra desktops and set wallpapers from the desktop right- click menu, without a problem. I don't recall having to change anything else to allow this, but I'll ask around in the morning in case I've forgotten something. Anne Ah, yes, but in kde-4.3, we are still stuck with one wallpaper for all screens. That sucks about a 10-33 tor vacuum IMO. NO WE ARE NOT! Please!! I asked for a few hours sleep before searching for what was needed to enable it. It definitely works on my laptop. OK - I get testy before breakfast. I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two. Use the desktop cashew to zoom out create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started. Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other. Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was. Well, now I have a new problem. I have three desktops that each have a different image on the background. This is good. My fourth desktop also has a different image on it (again, this is good), BUT all the plasmoids have dissappeared from it! Actually, it is more like this: Desktop 1: All the plasmoids have dissappeared. Desktop 2: All the plasmoids remain on the desktop, but in different positions and different sizes. Desktop 3: one of the plasmoids has actually become the size of the entire desktop (with no way to resize it) and the other plasmoids are still there, and can be resized and moved around just like a normal plasmoid. Desktop 4: Same as Desktop 2 OK, I just discovered that one of the desktops had been changed to Folder View (That would have been Desktop 3) So, after changing that back to Desktop View, Desktops 2, 3 4 now have all the original plasmoids. Unfortunately, like mentioned above, they were randomly rearranged, and I will also have to resize them. Desktop 1 still is nothing but a blank image. All the plasmoids had dissappeared. Anyway, I need to get to work now :) Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Random applications stretch vertically for no apparent reason
Hello Everyone After running yum update on August 24th, and receiving the KDE 4.3 updates, I have been getting random occurrences of this little beauty: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090826-Fedora11-ScreenShot-001.jpg That is a screen-shot of my entire desktop (with Kontact maximized of course.) When it does it, an application will start out normal size, and just stretch itself, and then keep stretching until I stop it. When I opened Gimp 2.7 to take a screen-shot of Kontact going through it's afternoon stretch, Gimp started to stretch as well... I am running an nVidia based video card and the proprietary nVidia driver. Since a few other things have taken place around this time, it is VERY possible that all of the KDE updates are completely unrelated to this: 1. Updated kernel 2. The resulting updated nVidia driver. 3. Rebooted into that new kernel during the investigation of that other issue that I just solved on this list. But one thing to consider is that the above three points might not be relevant, because I HAD NOT rebooted until after the first time that I saw this stretching effect. All it took to begin seeing this was logging out of KDE and logging back in. Which of course does NOT prove that KDE is at fault. lspci -v shows the following: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 058f Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at cc00 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fbb8 [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information ? Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ? Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting ? Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information ? Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia, nouveau Anyway, any thoughts/similar experiences are greatly appreciated. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:02:34 Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Not, I am told, with recent versions of KDE. Wah. Yes, you can now. I do have. I have Air on Desktop1 and blue-sun-m on Desktop 2. This wasn't available before KDE 4.3 as far as I know. Hello Anne I am running the KDE 4.3 that ships with Fedora 11. I do not see how to put different images on different virtual desktops. Any help is appreciated. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [fedora] Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:41:11PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: Hello Anne I am running the KDE 4.3 that ships with Fedora 11. I do not see how to put different images on different virtual desktops. Any help is appreciated. Hmm - I just added extra desktops and set wallpapers from the desktop right- click menu, without a problem. I don't recall having to change anything else to allow this, but I'll ask around in the morning in case I've forgotten something. All you have to do is right click on each desktop to set it. The maxpect/centered option does fail for non-primary monitors though. Hello Dave For some reason it does not work that way for me here. Here is a screenshot of my desktop settings dialog: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090827-Fedora11-ScreenShot-001.jpg When I do try to do exactly like you described, of course the first desktop I try it on is changed to whatever picture I choose. But when I try it on the second desktop, the picture on the second desktop changes to the new picture, but so does the one that I had changed previously. This is the KDE 4.3 that I recently got from the official Fedora updates repo. Please feel free to tell me whatever it is that I am missing. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New feature after recent yum update
Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11 system. It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...) I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in after the recent updates. All of them that I have seen so far I really like. This one I don't care for :) I can see why it could be a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of opting-in So my questions are as follows: 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things back to the way they were before the recent updates? 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new functionality, what is it's name? I will look for answers to these questions myself as well. Thank you for any help you can give me. Not much, I'm afraid. I've been using 4.3 for a few weeks now and never seen this behaviour. You did re-start KDE, I see, but have you tried a reboot, in case there was something from the old system still running and causing a conflict? There are few things in Linux that require a reboot, but I always do one after a kernel change, and after major changes to KDE. Hello Anne First of all, thank you for stepping in on an issue that you yourself have not even seen yet. That is well appreciated :) After reading your reply, I rebooted and logged back in to KDE. The result is exactly the same as I described in my first email on this subject. The circle/exclamation mark DID NOT return to the applications that had originally had it and that I had opened before the reboot. That is good :) Just for a test, I opened one the the applications that still had the circle/exclamation point over the icon, and the behavior was just like before the reboot: the application started immediately after I clicked Continue One cool difference that I see after the same set of updates the resulted in the issue referred to in this thread is the change in the desktop effect Wobbly Windows The wobble doesn't stop after the window is no longer being moved/resized. It continues to wobble for a few moments... Pretty cool :) Anyway, I digress... Thanks again for your help so far, Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New feature after recent yum update (SOLVED!)
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 16:22:17 Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:35:37 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hello Anne First of all, thank you for stepping in on an issue that you yourself have not even seen yet. That is well appreciated :) After reading your reply, I rebooted and logged back in to KDE. The result is exactly the same as I described in my first email on this subject. The circle/exclamation mark DID NOT return to the applications that had originally had it and that I had opened before the reboot. That is good :) Just for a test, I opened one the the applications that still had the circle/exclamation point over the icon, and the behavior was just like before the reboot: the application started immediately after I clicked Continue Haven't actually helped much, have I? Still, if you can find anything at all in the logs it would help us understand what happened. Amazing how things crop up! I've just come across this: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67t=77468p=122035#p122035 Is it your thread, or just someone reached the same position as you? Hello Anne No, that is not my thread. BUT, running chmod 744 *.desktop resulted in the feature that I started this thread about being immediately disabled :) Like I think I said in my initial message on this, it's not that I think that this is a bad idea, but I just didn't happen to like it. I figured that this might be something really simple, but I figured the more places that this new feature gets referred to on the internet the better. Somebody might find the answer to this here, but for some reason might not be able to find it on the KDE forum. Thank you for having Google skills that clearly surpass my own... Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
New Desktop Effect after 8/24 yum update
Hello Everyone After running yum update on August 24th, and receiving the KDE 4.3 updates, I have been getting random occurances of this little beauty: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090826-Fedora11-ScreenShot-001.jpg That is a screenshot of my entire desktop (with Kontact maximized of course.) When it does it, an application will start out normal size, and just stretch itself, and then keep stretching until I stop it. When I opened Gimp 2.7 to take a screenshot of Kontact going through it's afternoon stretch, Gimp started to stretch as well... I am running an NVidia based video card and the proprietary NVidia driver. Since a few other things have taken place around this time, it is VERY possible that all of the KDE updates are completely unrelated to this: 1. Updated kernel 2. The resulting updated NVidia driver. 3. Rebooted into that new kernel during the investigation of that other issue that I just solved on this list. But one thing to consider is that the above three points might not be relevant, because I HAD NOT rebooted until after the first time that I saw this stretching effect. All it took to begin seeing this was logging out of KDE and logging back in. Which of course does NOT prove that KDE is at fault. lspci -v shows the following: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 058f Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at cc00 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fbb8 [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information ? Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ? Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting ? Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information ? Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia, nouveau Anyway, any thoughts/similar experiences are greatly appreciated. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
New feature after recent yum update
Hello Everyone I just ran yum update, logged out and logged back in. I was greeted with this: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-001.jpg More specifically, some of the icons on my desktop had little red circles (with exclamation points in them) by them. At first I thought something (else) really weird happened and I had a whole bunch of broken symlinks. Then I clicked on one to see what happened. This is the result: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg If I click Continue the application starts just fine, and the circle with the exclamation point goes away for that application. If for some reason, I decide to minimize the little prompt depicted in http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg the entire desktop gets dim (just like a window that does not have focus is set to do on our system) and the little dialog minimizes just fine. BUT, I have not been able to find a way to restore it after it has been minimized. For all intents and purposes, the desktop is locked up. I happen to have my desktop set to display a slide-show that changes pictures every 15 seconds. This continues to work properly. Pop-ups for newly received email work properly. But my ability to interact with my desktop and start new applications is completely and totally ended. The only way to get things back to normal is to do Ctrl | Alt | Backspace Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11 system. It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...) I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in after the recent updates. All of them that I have seen so far I really like. This one I don't care for :) I can see why it could be a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of opting-in So my questions are as follows: 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things back to the way they were before the recent updates? 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new functionality, what is it's name? I will look for answers to these questions myself as well. Thank you for any help you can give me. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox open containing folder
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 09:38 -0400, Jud Craft wrote: On 08/16/2009 09:28 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: There is on may machine, as well as an option Open with other Application. This is in Gnome. Well darn. Are you sure? This is mine. Sorry for the attachment. I don't have a Open With tab for folders. On my machine (running GNOME but with some KDE stuff), Firefox's Open containing folder pulls up Konqueror. Well some confusion exists between us. What you ar epicturing in your image is indeed the property menu of a folder. I must be very confused because I don't see an OPen containig folder option in firefox. Where is it and when is it used? Hello For this to work, you must first have something in your Download List 1. Select Tools | Downloads 2. In the window that pops up, right click on one of the items that you have previously downloaded. 3. On MY system, the second item from the top of the context menu that comes up is Open Containing Folder Here is a screenshot: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/Firefox-OpenContainingFolder- ScreenShot.jpg I suppose it could be of really good use if one had their browser set so you could choose each time where you wanted something to be saved to. So, if you forget where you saved it, just right click and select Open Containing Folder I hope I did not misunderstand your question... Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox open containing folder
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 09:38 -0400, Jud Craft wrote: On 08/16/2009 09:28 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: because I don't see an OPen containig folder option in firefox. Where is it and when is it used? Hello For this to work, you must first have something in your Download List 1. Select Tools | Downloads 2. In the window that pops up, right click on one of the items that you have previously downloaded. 3. On MY system, the second item from the top of the context menu that comes up is Open Containing Folder Here is a screenshot: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/Firefox-OpenContainingFolder- ScreenShot.jpg Hello again, KMail mangled the link I posted above. It should look something like this: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/Firefox-OpenContainingFolder-ScreenShot.jpg Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:58 -0500, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: P.S.: Is the wrapping on the message I sent messed up? If it is I'd like to know so I can fix it somehow. I am using the KMail component inside of Kontact that is the current version in Fedora 11. There is one quite noticeable fault with your mail: Here, using Evolution, it's not threaded as a reply to the message that it should be. It's threaded as a reply to your original message. I see that a lot. Messages threaded incorrectly. Sometimes that's obviously because the poster has used one of those crappy webmail clients. I am using KMail 1.11.4, the current version from the Fedora repository. I'm curious about whether other people see that with this message, to indicate whether it was a reply problem, or Evolution's threading things wrong. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Two USB ports dissappeared... (SOLVED)
Hello Everyone I am running a Fedora 11 system based on the Supermicro SuperWorkstation 5046AXB. It has approximately 10-12 USB ports, with two on the front of the machine that are very handy for my camera and card reader. Unfortunately, those two ports in front seem to have disappeared as far as Fedora is concerned. Hello Everyone... UGGGH! Sorry for the noise. At least now the fix to my problem is about to be documented in case anyone else has the same problem. It it a combination Hardware/Brain Matter issue :) The SuperMicro system that I am running can also be mounted in a rack as a server. So, they put the following items all together in an enclosure that can be pulled out and turned 90 degrees so that everything is in the proper direction when it is mounted in a rack: 1. Two slots for optical drives and such things 2. One slot for a floppy drive 3. A panel at the top that has the power button, an assortment of lights, the reset button, and the two USB ports that I started this thread over. When I got this system I learned REAL QUICK that the cable for everything but the USB ports comes unplugged real easy. Now I see that as kind of a safety feature to keep people from accidentally yanking a cable and breaking something. The cable for everything BUT the USB ports is right where you can see it very clearly. The cable for the two USB ports ON THE OTHER HAND :), is about a half inch to an inch further back. It does not come completely disconnected as easily as the other cable does, BUT it can be pulled out far enough to cause the issues that I have bothered this list with... But anyway, all is now well... Thank you for your help, Steven P. Ulrick P.S.: Hey Mikkel: I am now wrapping my plain text email messages at column 68 (again, this is in KMail.) I'm looking forward to seeing the results. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Two USB ports dissappeared...
Hello Everyone I am running a Fedora 11 system based on the Supermicro SuperWorkstation 5046AXB. It has approximately 10-12 USB ports, with two on the front of the machine that are very handy for my camera and card reader. Unfortunately, those two ports in front seem to have disappeared as far as Fedora is concerned. I can plug my card reader into a port in the back and it automounts right away. But plugging anything into the front two ports does nothing. Nothing in /var/log/messages, nothing... Just to be sure I unplugged the cable that those two ports are connected to and plugged it back into the motherboard. Still nothing. My bios is set to support 12 USB ports. The really strange thing is that I have knowingly done nothing to cause this. The only thing that I can think of is that I just installed a DVD burner and perhaps something got damaged then. Unfortunately I can't remember if I have used those USB ports since I put the DVD burner in. I have even tried booting into a different kernel, to see if that might be the issue. No joy... I'm hoping it is as simple as getting a new one of the removable unit that contains any optical drives I might have, in addition to the power button, reset button, two USB ports and assorted lights. Thank you in advance for anything you can do to help me :) Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...
Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hello Everyone I am running a Fedora 11 system based on the Supermicro SuperWorkstation 5046AXB. It has approximately 10-12 USB ports, with two on the front of the machine that are very handy for my camera and card reader. Unfortunately, those two ports in front seem to have disappeared as far as Fedora is concerned. I can plug my card reader into a port in the back and it automounts right away. But plugging anything into the front two ports does nothing. Nothing in /var/log/messages, nothing... Just to be sure I unplugged the cable that those two ports are connected to and plugged it back into the motherboard. Still nothing. My bios is set to support 12 USB ports. Thank you in advance for anything you can do to help me :) Steven P. Ulrick Dumb question - can you plug in something like a USB light and see if it powers up? I'll have to try getting something like that. It does sound like a hardware problem. If it does not, check if you plugged in the connector on the motherboard 1 row down from where it should be. With some motherboards it is almost impossible to see the pins because the plug blocks your line of site. That would not account for the fact that I have to try to figure this out to beging with. So I might have put it back in the wrong place, but everything used to just work correctly when it was plugged in the place that it was before. If possible, try plugging the cable into another connector as well. With 12 USB ports, I am guessing you have more then one header. I will be very happy to try that later. You'd think with support for six sticks of RAM of up to 4gigs each, the possibility of six SATA hard drives and two onboard network connectors that I would probably have another place to plug the two front USB ports into... Thank you for your help so far, Steven P. Ulrick P.S.: Is the wrapping on the message I sent messed up? If it is I'd like to know so I can fix it somehow. I am using the KMail component inside of Kontact that is the current version in Fedora 11. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...
On 08/06/2009 01:22 PM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hello Everyone I am running a Fedora 11 system based on the Supermicro SuperWorkstation 5046AXB. It has approximately 10-12 USB ports, with two on the front of the machine that are very handy for my camera and card reader. Unfortunately, those two ports in front seem to have disappeared as far as Fedora is concerned. I can plug my card reader into a port in the back and it automounts right away. But plugging anything into the front two ports does nothing. Nothing in /var/log/messages, nothing... Just to be sure I unplugged the cable that those two ports are connected to and plugged it back into the motherboard. Still nothing. My bios is set to support 12 USB ports. The really strange thing is that I have knowingly done nothing to cause this. The only thing that I can think of is that I just installed a DVD burner and perhaps something got damaged then. Unfortunately I can't remember if I have used those USB ports since I put the DVD burner in. I have even tried booting into a different kernel, to see if that might be the issue. No joy... I'm hoping it is as simple as getting a new one of the removable unit that contains any optical drives I might have, in addition to the power button, reset button, two USB ports and assorted lights. Thank you in advance for anything you can do to help me :) Steven P. Ulrick how about looking at dmesg output after boot, any burps in the hw enumeration? Hello Jack Using the following command: grep -i usb dmesg I got the following: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/dmesg-20090806 grep -i hub dmesg returned the following: hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 6 ports detected hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 6 ports detected hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 5-0:1.0: 2 ports detected hub 6-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 6-0:1.0: 2 ports detected hub 7-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 7-0:1.0: 2 ports detected hub 8-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 8-0:1.0: 2 ports detected Anyone's help in interpreting all of this is greatly appreciated. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...
Steven P. Ulrick wrote: P.S.: Is the wrapping on the message I sent messed up? If it is I'd like to know so I can fix it somehow. I am using the KMail component inside of Kontact that is the current version in Fedora 11. Only with the quoting. That always happens when you get a couple levels of quotes. I just tried setting the column that text is wrapped at from the original 80 to 85. On MY system that fixed the quoting issues of my parts of messages. I never saw a problem from your end, it was all in my portions of the messages... Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Vonage phone service on a network with Fedora...
Hello Everyone I have just (for now...) signed up for Vonage phone service. My system as is was BEFORE I connected the Vonage V-Portal Phone Adapter was like this: Two Fedora Linux systems connected to a router that is connected to a cable modem that is connected to the Comcast cable that comes out of my wall. We do NOT have any other services from Comcast other than cable internet. No TV, No Phone, just Internet. I have a dynamic IP address. But, like with many of us, it almost never changes. THEN I connected the Vonage V-Portal Phone Adapter like the instructions specify. In short, the adapter goes between the modem and the router. Which I am reasonably sure is the cause of my problems. I discovered after I connected the Vonage device that the IP address that I have had with Comcast had changed for the first time in a REAL long time. So, in an attempt to fix my ability to access the mail server on my Fedora 8 system from my new system (Fedora 11) I changed the IP address on dnsexit.com to match the new one. This did not in any way change my situation... So I had an idea: I disconnected the Vonage device, probably did a modem/router power cycle and rebooted my PC's. Guess What? My IP address changed AGAIN! Any guesses on what it changed to? The exact same IP address that I had before I connected the Vonage adapter... I wasn't exactly too suprised when my email setup started to work perfectly again. So, my question is, has anyone with two or more Fedora/Linux systems on a local network that is also running a mail server on one of the systems been able to successfully connect the Vonage V-Portal Phone Adapter to their network and still have their network function exactly as it did before the adapter was installed? Your help is greatly appreciated! Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: where's my memory?
I have a argument with another user about memory. He claims that on running linux on his 4G Dell machine, top only reports 3.something memory, he says the missing space is for pci bus. I think this is only because he's running 32 bit and that 64 bit would give all the memory. I tried on my 64bit 8G machine, and it reports 8114688k total 8114688 * 1024 = 8309440512 (assuming top 'k' is 1024) 2**33 = 8589934592 The diff is: 280494080 I know some will be kernel space, but that doesn't account for 280M. Hello Everyone Since the topic has been started, here is what I am sure is a grade school level memory question: My system has an Intel Xeon 2GHZ QuadCore processor with 8 gigabytes of RAM. Right now, top says the following: Mem:8108356k total, 7971312k used, 137176k free, 517972k buffers Swap: 1507320k total, 2244k used, 1505076k free, 6308168k cached To me, that looks like almost all of my memory is being used. This is on a system which is relatively idle right now. ksysguard says that about 1.1 GiB of 7.7 GiB is being used. gnome-system-monitor says the same thing ksysguard says. Actually, gnome-system-monitor says one thing different: that my system is using 2.2 MiB of Swap... So I guess I am wondering what does top mean when it says that almost all of my memory is BEING used at the same time that the KDE and GNOME system monitoring tools say that only about 1.1 GiB is being used? Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 11: Switching to single user mode (runlevel 1)
Hello Everyone First of all, I am a very satisfied user of Fedora 11. I installed it on a brand new system with an Intel Xeon Quad Core processor and 8 gigs of RAM, and everything has Just Worked. Well, I have had intermittent issues with the Intel onboard sound, but that's working pretty good. My problem is that if I run /sbin/telinit 1 from a terminal while in runlevel 5, the normal messages appear and everything LOOKS fine, but then I am dumped to a plain black screen with no apparent way of escape. I actually have to reboot to get out of it... I am running a Galaxy GeForce 9600 video card with the proprietary driver as installed from the RPM Fusion repository. This is the only POSSIBLY video related issue that I am having. I was not able to find anything on google, the archives of this list or the release notes about issues with switching from runlevel 5 to runlevel 1 (or single user mode) Not that it wasn't there, but I couldn't find it... Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11: Problem switching to single user mode (runlevel 1)
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 17:10:57 +, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: if you want runlevel 1, you need to boot to runlevel 1 from start. You can use the telinit command to switch run levels. Doing this from an X session is going to drop your session, so you want to be OK with that before doing it. Hello I understand all of that. On Fedora 8, if I would be in runlevel 5, and wanted to do the closest thing I could short of rebooting, I would, as root, run /sbin/telinit 1 I would eventually come to a command prompt. I would then do /sbin/telinit 5 and return to X. But, my question still has not been covered. For convenience sake, I will quote it here: My problem is that if I run /sbin/telinit 1 from a terminal while in runlevel 5, the normal messages appear and everything LOOKS fine, but then I am dumped to a plain black screen with no apparent way of escape. I actually have to reboot to get out of it... Like the question says, instead of ending up at a command prompt, I am dumped to a plain black screen with no apparent way to get out. The only way to get out of it is to hit the reset button on my computer and reboot. If I phrased all of that clearly, you probably see the difference (for me anyway) between running /sbin/telinit 1 on Fedora 8 and Fedora 11. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11: Switching to single user mode (runlevel 1)
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 17:10:57 +, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: if you want runlevel 1, you need to boot to runlevel 1 from start. You can use the telinit command to switch run levels. Doing this from an X session is going to drop your session, so you want to be OK with that before doing it. op stated; My problem is that if I run /sbin/telinit 1 from a terminal while in runlevel 5, the normal messages appear and everything LOOKS fine, but then I am dumped to a plain black screen with no apparent way of escape. I actually have to reboot to get out of it... to me, 'plain black screen' indicates nothing, nada, no command prompt. That is exactly what I meant. if op had stated that he had a command line, i would have told him to issue 'init 5' to return to 'x'. Which is exactly what I have always done as long as I have been switching from runlevel 5 to runlevel 1 by using the telinit command. as i stated, i boot level 3, i do not boot level 5, therefore i have never had need to change from level 5 down to level 1, so i am not aware of it being accessible that way. all tho i would think that it would be. Definitely is accessible that way. In fact, I have been doing it that way at LEAST since Fedora 8. Probably a lot longer than that. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11: Problem switching to single user mode (runlevel 1)
Steven P. Ulrick wrote: My problem is that if I run /sbin/telinit 1 from a terminal while in runlevel 5, the normal messages appear and everything LOOKS fine, but then I am dumped to a plain black screen with no apparent way of escape. I actually have to reboot to get out of it... Like the question says, instead of ending up at a command prompt, I am dumped to a plain black screen with no apparent way to get out. The only way to get out of it is to hit the reset button on my computer and reboot. If I phrased all of that clearly, you probably see the difference (for me anyway) between running /sbin/telinit 1 on Fedora 8 and Fedora 11. X now runs off VT1, I think, whereas it used to be VT7. telinit 1 would drop you to VT1, where the X had been before. Have you tried ALT-F2 (or CTRL-ALT-F2) while in the black screen to get to a console? Hello Rick I THINK that I have tried that before, but I will try again just to be sure. Be back in a few to tell you what happened... Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 8 mailserver: receiving ALMOST no mail from this list
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 17:39:59 -0500, Linus Ulrick meow8...@gmail.com wrote: Slightly off of the thoughts stated above, but I have a free DNS account with dnsexit.com. So in rare situations where my IP address does change I just change my IP address at dnsexit.com and everything is back to normal. Just remember the DNS records have TTLs associated for them and it may take a while (on the order of a day) for cached records to expire. Even for planned changes where you can lower the TTLs, some ISPs don't honor the TTLs and will cache them for on the order of a day anyway. -- Hi, Is there perhpas a misconfigured mx-entry in your dns-entry? Also, check /var/log/maillog, if you find mails you haven't potentialle received. Perhaps, mails are still in mailq? Or, do you have a spamfilter that does to much work? ;) Roger Hello Roger OK. Now this situation is kind of strange. After I sent my initial message on this subject to the list, I tried something that should NOT have worked: I removed: I removed smtp.comcast.net from being a smarthost. Ran the required make command in the /etc/mail directory. Restarted sendmail The result is, that after running all night, KMail shows 29 messages from this list in BOTH my gmail.com and my afolkey2.net accounts! Now after I attempt to send this message, I will really find out if this will work perfectly or not, because a LONG time ago I had to define smtp.comcast.net as smarthost, or I could not even send email from my afolkey2.net account. For now, anyway, the problem I initially brought to this list is resolved :) So, we'll see... Thank You, Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 8 mailserver: receiving ALMOST no mail from this list
Steven P. Ulrick wrote: removed: I removed smtp.comcast.net from being a smarthost. Ran the ... not, because a LONG time ago I had to define smtp.comcast.net as smarthost, or I could not even send email from my afolkey2.net account. For now, anyway, the problem I initially brought to this list is resolved :) So, we'll see... Remember that a lot of places run automatic spam filters which have blacklisted all residential adsl/cablemodem user ip's by default. So it would be advisable to route your outgoing emails trough comcasts email server. That is probably why I had initially configured smtp.comcast.net (and before that the appropriate Insight server) as smarthost. So it strikes me as odd that this would be the case: With smtp.comcast.net as smarthost: 1. Not receiving all the the mail from this (and possibly other) mailing lists. 2. Able to successfully send email. WITHOUT smtp.comcast.net as smarthost: 1. I am now receiving all of the mail from this (and possibly other) lists. 2. I am also still able to send email to at least this list. Should this work? I don't know. I just know that it does, and that the removal of smtp.comcast.net as my smarthost seems to have resulted in me receiving all of the email from my lists. So, if I receive a copy of this message/see it in the fedora-list archives, it will be the second message I've sent with no smarthost... On a residential modem... Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 8 mailserver: receiving ALMOST no mail from this list
Hello Everyone For quite a while I have been running a mail server (sendmail) on a Fedora 8 system with no apparent problems. Now I have a new system (Fedora 11) and I access my email from that system using an IMAP account set up in KMail. Unfortuantely, I have been seeing a RADICAL decrease in mail that I receive from (at least) this list. We are talking that in the same time that I received right around 70 messages from this list on my Gmail account I only received 5 in my afolkey2.net (that is my domain name) subscription to this list. Here are all the details that I can think of that may be relevant: 1. My internet provider is Comcast. Other than this issue (which may be unrelated to being on Comcast) my service from them is excellent. 2. I have define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.comcast.net.') set as my smart host in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc 3. The cable from Comcast connects to a Linksys cable modem and the Fedora 8 and Fedora 11 systems that are on this network are connected to a Linksys router that is connected to the modem. 4. Also, I know for a fact that I do NOT have a static IP address. This has not as of yet caused any know problems (though this issue may be the first...) So, any help you can give me in figuring this out is greatly appreciated. Thank You, Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Webserver(?) performance issues when accessed through non-server system (SOLVED)
On Sun, 24 May 2009 12:54:42 +0200 Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote: Steven P. Ulrick wrote: So, my humble opinion is that the issue is a network configuration issue on my system, since the two radically different performance scenarios described above are occuring on two systems that are hooked up the the same router. Your webserver is probably waiting a lot of time for each one of the files it is serving. DNS resolution issues? ECN? (cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn) MTU problems? (try if ifconfig eth0 mtu 576 on the F10 machine helps) Do pages finally load after a long time or do they really hang for ever? A tcpdump -i eth0 on F10 could help in understanding what's happening on the network. First off, thank you very much for your help. Some time after I sent my original message to the list, my brother suggested that I try this: http://192.168.1.100/gallery2/main.php (192.168.1.100 being the IP address of our system that has the server running on it.) This worked perfectly. Of course, I shouldn't have to replace the domain name with the IP address just to run Gallery2 and Squirrelmail from our new Fedora 10 system. So, inspiration struck me, and the problem has been fixed ever since. The complete fix was adding this line to the Problem System: 192.168.1.100 afolkey2.netwww.afolkey2.net So, I put a line in 192.168.1.101's /etc/hosts file telling it to map requests for afolkey2.net and www.afolkey2.net to 192.168.1.100 (the address of our server.) Perfectly solved my problem :) Again, thank you for your efforts on my behalf. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Webserver(?) performance issues when accessed through non-server system
Hello Everyone For an issue that is probably pretty simple to fix, it was really hard to come up with a subject that had any relation to the problem... Anyway, here goes. I have a Fedora 8 and a Fedora 10 system hooked up to a cable (Comcast) internet connection through a Linksys router. The Fedora 8 system is relatively old(?): 1.8 GHZ AMD 32bit processor with 1 gig of RAM. The Fedora 8 system also runs a webserver and a mail server. The Fedora 10 system has an Intel Xeon 2Ghz Quad Core Processor with 8 Gigs of RAM. The issue is that when I attempt to access either of the two following locations (both served on on Fedora 8 system I referred to earlier) the pages never stop loading: http://www.afolkey2.net/squirrelmail http://www.afolkey2.net/gallery2/main.php For example, after a few minutes of loading, this is what my Gallery2 installation looks like when viewed in Firefox 3.0.10: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/Fedora10-Gallery2atAfolkey2Net.jpg The next screenshot was taken after I ssh'd into my Fedora 8 box and ran Firefox from that box. Here is the result after just a few moments of loading: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/Fedora8-Gallery2atAfolkey2Net.jpg My Gallery2 installation also works perfectly at every other computer that I've tried it on. In fact, just this morning I ran some administrative tasks from a Windows 2003 thin client at the place that I work at. I was very pleased with the very zippy performance of my Gallery2 install. So, my humble opinion is that the issue is a network configuration issue on my system, since the two radically different performance scenarios described above are occuring on two systems that are hooked up the the same router. I have a feeling that this is a relatively simple fix, but it is beyond my current skills... So, thank you in advance for any help you can give me. Steven P. Ulrick P.S.: I just remembered that this issue is not confined to Firefox. I have tried all of this with Opera, Konqueror and Dillo, with the same results. (In the case of Dillo, understanding that of course it appears to have no CSS support, so even if the page ever finished loading, it would look markedly different than it is supposed to. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 10: eth1 was disabled while I was asleep...
Hello Everyone I will get back to you with more information after I get off of work, but this is what I have so far. I woke up this morning and went over to our new computer (Supermicro SuperWorkstation 5046AXB): http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/tower/5046/SYS-5046A-X.cfm I am using the integrated network card on the C7X58 motherboard: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Core2Duo/X58/C7X58.cfm I built this system a few weeks ago, and networking/internet connectivity has worked perfectly ever since. Until this morning. I soon discovere this morning that I was no longer connected to the Internet. So I power cycled the modem and then the router (waiting until the lights were lit as normal) and the restarted the network. It was then that I discovered that Device pan0 had a different MAC address than the one that was configured. I understand that this has something to do with Bluetooth, so I could care less if I even had a device pan0... Also, after the network was restarted: /etc/init.d/network restart I was informed that pan0 and loopback were the only devices that were active. I tried running netstat -rn, with the result being completely blank. When I attempted to run route add default gw 192.168.1.1 the result was, in it's entirety :SIOCADDRT: no such process All of the lights on my router and my modem are lit/flashing as normal. The other system on my network (Fedora 8) connects to the Internet perfectly. Also, no one but me has any access to this system, so no changes could have been made to it after I went to bed last night. More simply put, I had perfect network connectivity from my Fedora 10 box last night, but during the night something happened, and I can no longer connect to the Internet. Since my other Fedora system still accesses the Internet perfectly, I don't THINK that this is an issue with my internet provider, but I'm no expert... Thank you for any help you can give me, Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Video Card for SuperMicro SuperWorkstation 5046A-XB
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:47:56 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 19:34:58 -0500, Steven P. Ulrick lists-fed...@afolkey2.net wrote: What I am now after is a video card. I don't need anything fancy. I think I would be satisfied with whatever functionality that I can get just using the apporpriate open source driver. So, I don't mind using, let's say an NVidia card. I further don't mind completely and totally AVOIDING any issues involved with depending on a proprietary company keeping their proprietary binary blob in sync with the latest Kernel updates. I just want a card that will Just Work the above described system, with a minimum of headaches. With which version of Fedora? Things are changing a lot in Fedora 11, so which cards work has been changing throughout rawhide. Going with Fedora 11 was/is my intention. Right now my ATI rv530 based card is working pretty well for normal stuff. I don't do much 3d with it, but did do a short test using tremulous today and it seemed to work OK. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Video Card for SuperMicro SuperWorkstation 5046A-XB
Hello Everyone I am building a system with the following specifications: Chassis: SuperMicro SuperWorkstation 5046A-XB Mainboard: Super C7X58 Processor: Intel Quad Core Xeon E5504 2GHz Hard Drives: Western Digital 320 GB 7200 RPM Caviar SE16 Sata Hard Drive Memory: Kingston 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory What I am now after is a video card. I don't need anything fancy. I think I would be satisfied with whatever functionality that I can get just using the apporpriate open source driver. So, I don't mind using, let's say an NVidia card. I further don't mind completely and totally AVOIDING any issues involved with depending on a proprietary company keeping their proprietary binary blob in sync with the latest Kernel updates. I just want a card that will Just Work the above described system, with a minimum of headaches. Thank you in advance for your knowledge and wisdom, Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
