Re: Flash Problem
On 10-01-08 00:21:56, Chris Smart wrote: ... Dirac is based on wavelets, completely different technology. It's also lossless, while Theora is not. http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/dirac/technology.shtml; According to that reference, Dirac is a typical lossy encoding method. The loss is introduced by the Quantization step, while the compression comes from entropy-coding the quantized (decimated) data with Arithmetic Coding. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: entropy
On 10-01-07 12:40:02, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Luca wrote: Hi all, if I simply write to /dev/random, will that increase the entropy of my system? (I'm assuming that the data I'm writing are random and that somehow I got them). Wikipedia says so. My tests say no. In particular this brutal approach does not increase the entropy cat /dev/urandom /dev/random (it is stupid to do that, I know, but it's just a test) ... `man 4 random` says that the current entropy can be read and written from /dev/urandom, not /dev/random. This is used to preserver entropy across reboots. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to Fedora w/ 1/2gig as well... Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to use less memory? OP: There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs. If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different goals of the projects. If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: End of days?
On 10-01-06 17:54:10, Robert Relyea wrote: On 01/06/2010 01:43 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: [or...@orca fedora/devel]$ ls */dead.package | wc -l 666 We're ok. The original number may have been 616: http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm No, that's merely the most common correction by those with a little knowledge. 666 was the number for Neron Ceaser, while 616 was for Nero Ceaser (latinized form of name). Of course, the reference was actually to Domitian, who was Emperor when the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed (again) after yet another revolt by the Jews. Mentioning the current Emperor in an unflattering way would get one killed, hence the code. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: control-C and yum update
On 10-01-05 03:01:45, Tim wrote: ... In the yum updating case, it's breaking the current process (downloading some file), but not the thing controlling it. You'd need to CTRL+C more than once, to break the chain of events higher up. ... No, yum is doing the download in-process. It takes two Ctrl-C's to quit during download so one can switch mirrors with one Ctrl-C. Yum is getting both of them and counting and timing them to decide what to do. The approach I took in my stablemirror yum plugin is to show a short menu of commands and let the user choose one, rather than count and time them. Either way works, but my way offers more choices. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Best way to get minimal system
On 10-01-04 22:48:45, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/5 Andre Robatino an...@bwh.harvard.edu: The minimum RAM for a GUI install was increased from 192 MB to 384 MB for F12. http://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2009-July/ msg00146.html Oh yes.. I have no idea how much ram that iMac thing has. The output of `free` will tell you. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
On 10-01-04 23:40:46, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I cannot get my notebook to even go over 800x600 for the internal display without using system-config-display to create a xorg.conf to get higher resolution with FC12. How do I convince X to give me more without the xorg.conf? BTW, this is on an HP nc2400 that has a 12 display, but I have always run it at 1024x768. When you run system-config-display what shows as Hardware---Monitor Type. I had, what I believe, was a similar problem. Setting it to Generic LCD Display---LCD Panel (with native resolution of my notebook) fix my issue. I see that the native resolution is widescreen 1280x800. If you want to use that but text is too small, try changing Resolution to a higher number in System - Preferences - Appearance - Fonts - Details (gnome-appearance-properties). -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: control-C and yum update
On 10-01-04 08:12:39, John Austin wrote: ... I have been using Tony Nelson's stablemirror for several years (and Control/C) with yum (currently F12) with no problems. http://www.georgeanelson.com/stablemirror.htm Stablemirror provides working Ctl-C handling during downloads, in a way that I belive is safe for the underlying RPM database. I am /astounded/ that it hadn't stopped working with all the changes to yum since 2007. I hadn't been using it myself, as both the mirrors and yum have seen improvement over time, but I did occasionally miss it. I've installed it again and will look for any problems it might have with current yum. Anyone choosing to use stablemirror will probably want to disable fastestmirror. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: graphical login screen
On 10-01-03 14:49:14, Ralph Blach wrote: On Fedora 12, my machine is running to init 5, and comes up to a graphical login screen, How do I change the users showed on the screen, I see users, but no root, I would only like to see only the user which I specify, and of course root. It would be foolish to log in graphically as root. Don't do it. Log in in text mode as root by switching to a different Virtual Terminal with Ctrl-Shift-F2 (F1 to F6, F7 or sometimes F1 is the X session). From a graphical login, either use the normal graphical tools and authenticate from time to time, or open a terminal and `su -` to become root there. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?
On 09-12-30 18:27:53, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/30/2009 12:25 PM, Chris Tyler wrote: Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to sell your proposal. I'd suggest something like: Fedora Users Too terse to guide new signups away from the developers' list. The currentname is wordy and wraps too often. Community assistance for using Fedora. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RAID 1 Mismatches
On 09-12-29 15:18:48, Rick Wagner wrote: ... Thanks for the suggestions. I did not find 'palimpset', but used the sp. palimpsest your 'devkit' suggestion. Looking at the physical device entries (i.e. sd[abc][1234]?') did not show anything like error counts. I take that to mean there are no errors to be reported, though an affirmative entry of no errors errors would be more reassuring. These are fairly modern drives, so I would expect that SMART would be supported on them, but wonder a little seeing the entry: ATA SMART: not available. ... # smartctl -a /dev/sda I expect that you've seen the reply that says what you are seeing is normal operation when memory-mapped files are written to. You might try flushing the buffers with a `sync ; sleep 2` before doing a scan. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Koji stuck?
On 09-12-19 17:19:37, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
...
There is a -O2 flag issue that causes some builds to hang. Maybe
those emacs hangs are related to this bug in gcc
It happened to 2 of my packages. Removing -O2 makes things compile in
my packages. (No I didn't do official builds without -O2 flag)
Someone filed a bug about this a while ago but unfortunately gcc
maintainers don't seem to care much. Anything we can do about this?
Can we use -O1 instead? The fact is these packages will not compile
if there will be a mass rebuild. And this needs to be fixed at some
point before F-13 is out.
`man gcc` suggests that one can find out the differences between -On
levels with:
$ gcc -c -Q -O2 --help=optimizers /tmp/O2-opts
$ gcc -c -Q -O1 --help=optimizers /tmp/O1-opts
$ diff /tmp/O{1,2}-opts | grep enabled
(and the man page also lists differences).
Perhaps only one of the added optimizations is the problem and
disabling that one will fix it. A bug report about that particular
optimization on a particular file might get better results. I suppose
I'd disable half of the added optimizations at a time on a problem file
until I found the one that causes the hangs.
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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh
On 09-12-19 15:27:48, Globe Trotter wrote: --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com wrote: ... So... the tcsh rpm is installed? $ rpm -qa tcsh tcsh-6.15-8.fc12 Yes, it is! Possibly some of the shell scripts used by GDM (or whatever) don't specify the interpreter with a shebang line. If they're written to assume bash and bash is the default they'll work, but not if tcsh is the default. If adding a first line of #!/bin/bash fixes the problem, file a bug against the relevant package. (Usually you can find the package with `rpm -qf /path/to/file`.) Good luck. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acctcom for linux
On 09-12-16 18:19:17, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 08:38 -0400, William W. Austin wrote: 05/01/2007 05:38:26 AM (Tue, 01 May 2007 08:38:26 -0400) Your date is still wrong. No, the date is correct. That's when the message was sent the first time around -- it's in the list archives. I don't think he reads the list anymore. I don't think he's aware that this is happening, so I've CC'd him. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Repost: Unable to report Firefox pblm with abrt
On 09-12-16 10:04:02, Steven Stern wrote: I'm reposting this as the original report had no responses Firefox is completely unstable. The stack trace indicates that the problem is probably in the flash plugin, but it's crashing on pages that, as far as I can tell, have no flash content. Abrt says it can't report a firefox crash because I need to debuginfo-install firefox. I did that, downloading and installing 127MB of stuff. Now, there's been another Firefox crash and abrt is telling me the same thing. What to do? ... File bugs. File a bug against Firefox for the Firefox problem. File a bug against abrt for the abrt problem. As a workaround, disable or remove the flash plugin. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 iptables can't disable
On 09-12-15 20:23:47, Rick Stevens wrote: ... chkconfig iptables off will only block iptables from starting whenever you enter the run level you're _currently_ in. ... Not according to `man chkconfig`, or when I try it. Without explicit levels, chkconfig acts on levels 2345. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Domain of sender address ... does not exist
On 09-12-11 04:32:11, Tim wrote: ... Well, according to my quick test, using the dig tool, that domain doesn't exist. Though, a whois check shows that it does. So, somewhere there's a problem with your public domain records. The dig tool might help you sort out where (you can query different DNS servers with it). dig redfish-solutions.com gets no answer But this does: dig redfish-solutions.com MX $ dig redfish-solutions.com SOA ... ;; ANSWER SECTION: redfish-solutions.com. 86400 IN SOA ns09.domaincontrol.com. dns.jomax.net. 2005062000 28800 7200 604800 86400 ... $ dig @ns09.domaincontrol.com. redfish-solutions.com ANY ... ;; ANSWER SECTION: redfish-solutions.com. 86400 IN SOA ns09.domaincontrol.com. dns.jomax.net. 2005062000 28800 7200 604800 86400 redfish-solutions.com. 43200 IN MX 10 mail.redfish-solutions.com. redfish-solutions.com. 3600IN NS ns09.domaincontrol.com. redfish-solutions.com. 3600IN NS ns10.domaincontrol.com. redfish-solutions.com. 43200 IN TXT v=spf1 mx -all ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: mail.redfish-solutions.com. 43200 INA 66.232.79.143 ... -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Domain of sender address ... does not exist
On 09-12-11 16:27:00, John Aldrich wrote: ... Guessing here... perhaps the problem is that there's no A record for redfish-solutions.com??? That could be the problem, if certain misconfigured senders consistently produce the problem (as there is no requirement that a domain have an A record to exchange mail, and FcRDNS works for the given domain). OTOH, if the problem is transient, then it may reflect an issue with DNS propagation or the DNS servers, an issue I occasionally see. The OP wasn't clear on this. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox frequently jamming Fedora 12
On 09-12-10 13:53:32, Daniel Qarras wrote: Hi! Briefly, when Firefox is not running F12 works like a charm. After starting Firefox every other minute Firefox hangs completely, disk drive led burns constantly and the system feel jammed, I can do barely anything. This usually lasts 10 to 20 seconds and then things are normal again for few minutes. If I have top running simultaneously it shows Firefox consuming anything between 20-98 % of CPU. I have witnessed this at least with F11 on my system (perhaps also earlier) but since I can't provide any more accurate report I was hoping this getting fixed by itself somehow :-) The questions are: is anyone else seeing even remotely similar? Is there any known reasons or fixes for this? Should I file a BZ about this? If so, what information should I provide? Try starting Firefox in safe mode, to disable all plugins. Any bug reported not in safe mode will certainly be ignored by the Mozilla folks (and may be ignored anyway). firefox -safe-mode -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Listing obsolete installed packages
On 09-12-08 15:14:39, Robert Nichols wrote: I'd like to make a list of currently installed packages that are not present in any currently enabled repo. Anyone know a straightforward way to do that? package-cleanup --orphans -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest Kernel causes reboot hell
On 09-12-07 15:51:38, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: ... I just went to reboot it. Since I wasn't logged into the console, I used the GDM reboot button to reboot the system. While it was shutting down, it just hung. That's when I noticed the caps-lock and scroll-lock leds flashing in unison. Oh, cool, I thought, a kernel panic! When it rebooted, it booted the new kernel: kernel-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686 (I had been running kernel-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686 when it paniced). The machine booted OK for me. My surprise was when I went to look in /var/log/messages, there was no mention of a kernel panic! The last message was of smartd terminating. Followed by the reboot of the new kernel. So, what happened? Did my system panic? If so, why no message in /var/log/messages? If the panic was about the disk system then nothing will be written to the logs. Your only chance to see it is in a system console, before rebooting, and that's hard to do after the panic. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: recommentations: midi player or converter midi to ogg,mp3
On 09-12-07 23:37:43, Terry Polzin wrote: I'm looking for a way to either play a midi file or convert it to a format that I can play in f12. `apropos midi` suggests timidity. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to list hardware manufacturer?
On 09-12-05 05:27:38, François Patte wrote: ... I would like to list the hardware manufacturers for some hardware installed on my computer (namely: cd drives and ram). ... lshw, does not give the manufacturer ... It does here, under vendor:. Be sure to run it as root, or it won't cover all devices (WARNING: you should run this program as super- user.). -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Difficulty setting up Fedora 12 screen
On 09-12-04 23:59:43, Dick Roark wrote: After installing Fedora 12 I am having problems setting up 1280x1024 screen resolution. Only 640x480 and 800x600 are available. I was using F11 at 1280x1024 on this hardware before upgrading to F12. After that, so far no joy. I would appreciate any helpful info. I have also tried using various configurations of the xorg.conf and xrandr without success. Obviously, I'm missing something. I feel certain that the fix is right under my nose but so far, nothing works. Dick Roark Here is my xorg.conf file: ... Your /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be very helpful when diagnosing resolution problems, and when using KMS (Kernel Mode-Setting), the relevant parts of dmesg / var/log/messages. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with screen resolution after installing F12
On 09-12-04 04:12:16, Dick Roark wrote: After installing Fedora 12 I am having problems setting up 1280x1024 screen resolution. Only 640x480 and 800x600 are available. I was using F11 at 1280x1024 on this hardware before upgrading to F12. After that, so far no joy. I would appreciate any helpful info. I have also tried using various configurations of the xorg.conf and xrandr without success. Obviously, I'm missing something. I feel certain that the fix is right under my nose but so far, nothing works. Dick Roark Here is my xorg.conf file: ... The /var/log/Xorg.0.log file would be useful, as it will show the available modes and what X did with them. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility
On 09-12-03 18:10:51, Daniel J Celta wrote: Kevin, When I do yum list \*ntfs\* I get a error: No matching Packages to list Also if i do yum search ntfs I get a similar error Al the above I did under Red Hat 5.4 Add the EPEL repo. (Google epel.) Have not tried FC10 yet ... Heh. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: X Configuration help request
On 09-12-03 23:34:06, john wendel wrote: I'm trying to configure X to do the following: [1] Computer A, the target of the configuration, has a display but no keyboard or mouse. [2] Computer B has a working F11 installation, with X, a keyboard, and a mouse. [3] Computers A and B are on the same local network. Can I configure A so that I can control X on A with the keyboard and mouse of B? I assume that I need some additional software, besides X, that will proxy the keyboard and mouse events from B to A. Clues, please. synergy synergy-plus -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC12 System Hangs when AC adopter is connected
On 09-12-02 02:21:24, Jatin K wrote: Dear all I'm Using Dell Vostro 1520 Laptop and have installed Fedora Core 12 x86_64 .. my problem is like that if laptop runs on battery power it works fine , as soon as I connect AC adopter to charge the battery laptop hangs after 10 to 15 minutes what could be the wrong ??? Overheating. You might have to open it and blow out the dust. Gently. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To dd or to rsync, that's the question...
On 09-12-01 13:01:47, Dan Thurman wrote: Which is the preferred backup solution? ... I am trying to get data off of disk1 which is failing (via smartd) and wish to use the correct backup and restore method getting the data off of disk1 onto disk2 without integrity loss, whatever that means. You don't seem to be doing a backup, but rather making a copy of an existing drive. You should probably do that and then also make a backup some other way. To copy a disk, I always use dd and then expand the last partition as needed (it's usually LVM2, so I then expand some of the LVs). The disk I usually do this to has WinXP (and Win98) as well as Linux /boot and LVM2 partitions. In the case of dd, it falls flat, if there are sector errors and this would not work, as in my case - so backup programs that do byte copy would perhaps also fail. ... ddrescue -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To dd or to rsync, that's the question...
On 09-12-01 17:12:12, Dan Thurman wrote: ... I tried ddrescue and it seems to work, except that there was 4 errors reported. When I went to look at the mount, it seems to indicate that the partition was not readable, perhaps left in some unknown state. Take a look at the ddrescue logfile. Are there any ddrescue options that I need to be aware of? The command I used was: ddrescue /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 info ddrescue Looks like you didn't make a logfile. I would have copied the entire drive, not just a partition. I tried to go into a working OS (XP) and tried to use the chkdsk /F E: and it says that it could not locate the master tables and kills chkdsk. It also says it is not a NTFS partition either. This of course was on a Vista partition. Again, RTM, esp. ch. 5. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: anyone noticed this odd firefox glitch?
On 09-11-30 04:03:12, Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... i've seen some trivial but fairly new oddities as well. as i mentioned before, the scroll bar doesn't seem to act consistently. once upon a time, if i clicked way down the scrollbar to page down, firefox would, well, page down. once. now, fairly regularly, it will blow through a massive amount of scrolling down. immediately thereafter, though, it will go back to what i recall as normal behaviour. I believe this is some sort of GTK problem, as it happened for me in F11 for many different programs (e.g., balsa, gnome-terminal, firefox), on my old 32-bit Athlon system. It is happening less in F12, but that may just be an artifact of timeing for some underlying architectural issue in GTK. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrading from FC8 to F12 - please help
On 09-11-24 14:53:31, Andrew Junev wrote: Hello All, I tried to upgrade my old machine running Fedora Core 8 to the shiny new Fedora 12 using 'preupgrade'. ... ... Update: now while trying to boot to an old FC8, I get an error: /sbin/init: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libsepol.so.1: invalid ELF header Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Doesn't look good... :-( I would prefer to continue with an upgrade to F12 if possible, but I don't know how to do it and I'm not sure it is possible at all... Boot with an Install DVD in Rescue mode, or a Live CD, and root around. Do an fsck on / and any other partitions (don't fix anything! At least not automatically). If the fsck is OK, either chroot to the old /, after mounting any other partitions it must have, and see if that works and if RPM works and what it reports when asked to Verify things, or try rpm's --dbpath option from outside a chroot and see what Verify reports. Then you'll know better whether an upgrade is possible. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Multi-boot: Making windows partitions bootable?
On 09-11-23 12:35:00, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: ... I know this is a Fedora site and I am a diehard Fedora user, but I also have a multiboot system... apologies to the purists. Is it possible to backup and restore Xp/Vista to a different drive/partition in the case of imminent drive failure? How is this to be properly done? I tried to use rsync from the original to a different partition but this does not seem to work. Help please? There are various -ghost apps, but I've just used dd to a new drive, copying the entire drive to a drive as large or larger. If it is larger, I just extend the last partition to the rest of the drive. IIRC, I usually haven't had to do anything else, but it might be necessary to do a Repair Install, at least with XP (I haven't used anything more recent). A Repair Install is tedious but hasn't done any harm when I've used it. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora-release RPMS ?
On 09-11-23 18:45:00, davide wrote: I'll keep also the show-leaves one. I'd like to keep the system clean, as I was used to do in Debian. But Fedora lacks unmarkauto, so you may get more leaves than you might want. It also makes yum slower. :-( -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Multi-boot: Making windows partitions bootable?
On 09-11-23 16:53:48, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: ... How exactly did you use `dd'? ... dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb Use the appropriate (unmounted) devices, of course. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chainloader question.
On 09-11-21 02:39:20, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 20/11/09 23:50, Mikkel wrote: Erik P. Olsen wrote: Can a 64-bit system be chainloaded from a 32-bit? What do you mean by chainloaded? If you are talking about a Grub, then it is the same for a 32 or 64 bit version of Fedora. Grub is a boot loader that is independent of the OS installed. (Except for storing its files.) My setup is fairly simple. I have a running fedora 10, 32-bit version. I have uild a 64-bit fedora 12 system which I want to chainload using grub from F10. So far I have only got the answer Geom error and I thought that might be due to the different architectures. No, it's some other problem, such as wrong disk / partition or the suggestion that Grub needs a reinstall on the target partition. If the target partition won't boot directly either, reinstall Grub there. Otherwise, use Grub's command-line and autocompletion to look for the chainload disk interactively; see `info grub`. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Run kinit when needed?
On 09-11-21 06:45:40, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, I've been switched from keybased auth to kerberos on a university server (and things work fine), but running kinit manually every morning or so is ... somewhat disturbing my workflow. Isn't there something like run kinit the first time when there is no ticket mode for ssh? Well, maybe a shell alias would help out. Use `klist -s` to see if kinit is needed, then do ssh. Something like: $ alias ssh='klist -s || kinit ; ssh' (I don't use Kerberos. I just looked at `man kinit`, and then `man klist`.) -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f12 yum/rpm commands to list all dependencies on a library
On 09-11-21 21:07:14, Skunk Worx wrote: On f12 I see a package called oprofile-gui depends on the qt3-3.8b rpm. What command(s) can I run inside a local repo (where all the rpm packages are) that will tell me how many f12 Everything packages are still using qt3? # repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps qt3 You may need to specify the repository with --repofrompath=repoid,path/url see `man repoquery`. What command(s) can I run for the locally installed package set that will tell me how many packages are still using qt3? Well, there's always `yum remove qt3` and answer no (as long as assumeyes is not set). I have a project that I am porting to x86_64/qt4 and would prefer not to mix the two subsystems on my development machine. The /etc/profile.d/qt* files are currently pointing the default QTDIR, QTINC, QTLIB, and PATH variables at qt-3.3 locations even though I'v installed qt-devel which is qt-4.5. Possibly this is a use for a chroot, or maybe mock or even mach. (I have not done this.) -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: abrt and bugzilla
On 09-11-20 07:06:34, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 11/20/2009 12:24 PM, Matthew Booth wrote: ... 5. Can abrt give me a list of submitted BZs so I can browse them if I want to? This is in our TODO: ABRT should find possible duplicates and offer the reporter to browse them and manually mark them as a duplicate. ... Like Debian's reportbug command? It's probably worth a look. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Local users get to play root?
On 09-11-19 05:06:16, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 01:48 -0500, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-11-18 20:09:18, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 13:50 -0500, Tony Nelson wrote: .. Fedora has always been this way. Have you tried to use sound or video in the past few releases? I think it's called creative destruction. And I'm sure the passive-aggressive in you filed bugs. Yes, I did. Might not have been the passive-aggressive in me, though. Don't be smarmy. I'm not being smarmy. You just insulted my work, and the work of many other people. I think I'm entitled to an explanation, don't you? No. If you don't know what Fedora is all about, read the mailing list, even this thread. If you still feel insulted, /grow up/, it's time for you to be a big boy now. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Local users get to play root?
On 09-11-18 13:44:43, nodata wrote: Am 2009-11-18 19:16, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 17:45:26 +, Bastien Nocerabnoc...@redhat.com wrote: Once we get the new user management stuff into F13 [1], we'd probably tighten that rule so that only admins are given the option, or all users but with the need to authenticate as an admin. This seems pretty reasonable. I don't like the way Fedora is going with this: digging out something that works and saying we'll replace it later makes no sense. Make it work now, or *keep it in*. Fedora has always been this way. Have you tried to use sound or video in the past few releases? I think it's called creative destruction. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Local users get to play root?
On 09-11-18 20:09:18, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 13:50 -0500, Tony Nelson wrote: .. Fedora has always been this way. Have you tried to use sound or video in the past few releases? I think it's called creative destruction. And I'm sure the passive-aggressive in you filed bugs. Yes, I did. Might not have been the passive-aggressive in me, though. Don't be smarmy. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: internet (without LAN) monthly traffic statistics
On 09-11-18 09:32:54, Ryan Lynch wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 09:27, Dj YB yehi...@mail.ru wrote: iptraf is really complicated and require too many changes, vnstat doesn't support the separation using single interface... any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated. Cacti is good at this, and I think MRTG can do it, too. But neither of those is simple to set up. I'd give them a try, though, you might do OK. Depending on exactly what numbers you need, NTop is also a possibility. It's dead easy to set up, and it's capable of breaking out separate interfaces. The level of detail will be enormous, but it's actually (IMHO) much easier/faster to get running than either Cacti or MRTG. If you're good with any scripting languages, you might want to consider just polling the kernel's interface counters, yourself, via a regular 'cron' job. That might not be an option, though, depending on your skill level. If the problem is sorting out which traffic went through the pay connection, perhaps IPTables could be used. Just an idea... -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nouveau KMS + custom modelines
On 09-11-18 09:32:38, Bruno Wolff III wrote: ... Modeline 1280x1024_70.00 129.00 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1027 1034 1069 -hsync +vsync ... Modelines can be made with the cvt or gtf commands. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 work around for out of space on /boot for preupgrade?
On 09-11-18 11:15:43, Linuxguy123 wrote: ... I am wondering if running gparted from a live disk would allow you to resize /boot without losing any data. Not if he uses LVM, unless there have been big changes in the last day or two, in a program where the feature has been discussed and promised for many years. If gparted had the fairly trivial ability to move and resize a partition it doesn't understand it would be useful. I use a ping / pong disk setup, so I'll just nuke the LVM partition, resize /boot, make a new LVM, and copy my data over and make a dump as usual. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f12 preupgrade?
On 09-11-17 11:38:38, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/17/2009 10:11 PM, Frank Cox wrote: I just cranked up preupgrade on this F11 computer and was told no releases available for upgrade. Sigh... # yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install preupgrade # preupgrade Is this related to the flap on fedora-devel about disk space on boot vs. preupgrade, where a 200 MB /boot might not be enough, even though a 100 MB /boot can be enough if it's mostly empty and a wired (ethernet) Internet connection is available at boot time? -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: using squid as a yum cache
On 09-11-17 17:33:49, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: why you don't create a private fedora mirror ? Wouldn't he need to download a lot of packages that his machines won't be using? On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak m...@avtechpulse.com wrote: Could someone point me to a good tutorial about how to configure squid and yum optimally, so squid will act as a cache for yum? Adding the proxy line to yum.conf is obvious, as is enlarging the cache object sizes, but are subtler changes needed? For instance, does the use of mirror lists cripple the caching, since each client might request from a different mirror? Yes. Set a baseurl of the one true mirror to use. mirrors.kernel.org is a good one many places. Tips appreciated! - Mike -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Roopesh's Birthday Calendar
On 09-11-13 16:13:20, Ikem Krueger wrote: Please click on the link below and enter your birthday for me. I am creating a birthday calendar for myself. Don't worry, it'll take less than a minute (and you don't have to enter your year of birth). Spam? o.O Phishing. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: one or more disks failling
On 09-11-13 15:12:18, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 15:04:52 -0500, Tait Clarridge t...@clarridge.ca wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 06:33 +1100, L wrote: Hi, I got a disk health warning from palimpsest disk utility one or more disks failling. It showed this disk has a bad sector. How can I check what partion is the sector located? or any fix? best Y Backup all data you can and get a new hard drive. That's probably thebest solution at this point. If you have lots of money that's the recommended solution. However if it's just one bad sector you may not even be able to RMA the drive under warranty. You can use the smartctl (from smartmontools) to see how many bad sectors you had had so far and how many of those are pending for remapping. Depending on the file system on the device the following may help you find out if any of your bad sectors are in files: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html Also, it can help to enable Automatic Offline Testing (with `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx`), which will scan the disk frequently and will often be able to remap a sector before it becomes unreadable. Removing Palimpsest (gnome-disk-utility) is the most practical way to make it not complain foolishly. Instead, use smartd, from the same package as smartctl (smartmontools); it can be set up to only complain about real problems. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: one or more disks failling
On 09-11-13 18:57:24, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: Depending on the file system on the device the following may help you find out if any of your bad sectors are in files: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html I don't trust myself to get all that math right (and guessing about the underlying remapping). ... If you have it correct, an attempt to dd /from/ it will fail. If dd works, you have it wrong. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 x86_64, ATI HD4870, and RPM Fusion's Catalyst Drivers...
On 09-11-05 09:31:45, Raymond C. Rodgers wrote: Up until this past weekend, I stayed on Fedora 10 because the closed fglrx drivers were stable and functioning, and I didn't want to go ... ran into a brick wall. ... In the mean time, does anyone have a clue what might be going on? Have you tried booting with the nomodeset kernel param? -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installing Python 3 on f11?
On 09-11-05 01:37:12, Robert P. J. Day wrote: (i just asked about this on the test list but it seems that it's equally appropriate here.) any problems with installing python-3.1.1 side-by-side on a fedora 11 system, and having programmers invoke it with an explicit reference to python3? just for fun, i grabbed : http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.1.1/Python-3.1.1.tar.bz2 unloaded it under my home directory, found out quickly that i needed to install tk-devel, tcl-devel and libsqlite3x-devel, did that, then -- following the README -- ran $ ./configure $ make $ make test the only glitches were, during the test step, the occasional diagnostic that a test was being skipped because some resource wasn't enabled, such as: ... test_codecmaps_cn test_codecmaps_cn skipped -- Use of the `urlfetch' resource not enabled ... beyond that, things seemed to work, after which i'd normally run # make install if anyone else has gone down this road, any warnings? make altinstall and any hint as to how to get that 'urlfetch' resource? there doesn't appear to be anything in the configure step that enables or disables that, and that diagnostic shows up several times, albeit not fatally. make EXTRATESTOPTS=-uurlfetch test I don't usually bother. in any event, can installing python-3.1.1 like this cause any grief with the current system? it's mostly for people who want to start programming in python, and it seems to make sense to start them off with python 3. Don't, as some have done, add anything to /etc/ld.so.conf*. 8v) -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Tomcat6 docs
On 09-11-05 09:10:16, Alessandro Boggiano wrote: ... Still, I don't get the point why this rpm contains empty files. Is it a bug? Is it a problem of repository ? Is it supposed to be so ? # yum info tomcat6-docs-webapp ... Available Packages Name : tomcat6-docs-webapp Arch : noarch Version: 6.0.18 Release: 9.2.fc11 Size : 204 k Repo : fedora Summary: The docs web application for Apache Tomcat URL: http://tomcat.apache.org/ License: ASL 2.0 Description: The docs web application for Apache Tomcat. It's the docs /webapp/, not the docs. Perhaps you want: # yum info tomcat6-javadoc ... Available Packages Name : tomcat6-javadoc Arch : noarch Version: 6.0.18 Release: 9.2.fc11 Size : 2.9 M Repo : fedora Summary: Javadoc generated documentation for Apache Tomcat URL: http://tomcat.apache.org/ License: ASL 2.0 Description: Javadoc generated documentation for Apache Tomcat. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora PPC for oldworld Mac?
On 09-11-02 13:07:09, Dan Williams wrote: oldworld topped out at 366MHz anyway right? (the 333 and 366 Beige G3 were only sold from 1998-08-12 - 1999-01-01 too) That's pretty much the minimum you'd need to run Fedora anyway these days... Not sure it's really worth it, you'll need at least 256MB of RAM anyway, and those things used 168-pin 3.3V DIMMs which are pretty hard to find these days. FWIW, my machine, a beige G3, is 233 MHz and has accumulated 416 MiB over the years. It handles Debian Lenny Iceweasel OK, but then, my main computer is a 1.2 GHz Athlon. The Blue White G3 was the first New World machine I think. Yes. Remember too that you'll need your boot partition within the first 8GB of the drive as the firmware can't handle booting from a partition which ends anywhere past that. I'm using BootX, so it's not an issue. (Fiddling with buggy openfirmware seems like something to avoid, anyway.) -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: A question about the future of qemu package
On 09-10-31 09:39:17, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: hello all After the release of qemu-0.12 which will drop kqemu support, How we will accelerate qemu on a no virtualization capable CPU ? currently i use fedora 11 with my own build of qemu rpms (with kqemu support) I have switched to VirtualBox-OSE from RPMFusion. Setup was different from Qemu but much easier. I don't need remote VM management or USB. When FOSS abandons me, I must abandon it as well. VirtualBox-OSE is the next most OSS. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is my Harddrive failing?
On 09-10-31 12:24:00, Matthew Saltzman wrote: ... It used to be fairly common for new disks to have a few bad blocks--back in the dark days of early PCs when disk drive capacities were measured in tens or low hundreds of megabytes. Then things seemed to improve as manufacturing techniques improved. When disk capacities were measured in tens or low hundreds of gigabytes, I don't recall ever encountering a new drive with bad blocks. Now that capacities have reached the terabyte range, it seems that a few bad blocks on new drives are once again less rare. Modern drives from the last decade or more use formatting that skips over bad blocks. There should /never/ be a bad block on a new drive. As blocks will go bad from time to time in otherwise properly functioning drives, all modern drives have automatic recovery and remapping of bad blocks (but only for blocks where the data could be recovered or the block was written to). (That IBM drive fiasco was mostly that their recovery process was very noisy and dreadfully slow.) It would be nice if the monitor software could record the state of a drive and issue reports when the number of bad blocks increases from the starting state, rather than insisting that every bad block is a sign of imminent failure. The persistent false alarm provokes the user to ignore the monitor or turn it off entirely, thus risking missing a warning of an imminent real failure. Right. SMART already watches that bad blocks don't increase too much. I just let smartd mail me when it thinks the drive is going bad. Also, I turn on Automatic Offline Testing, which scans the disk every few hours and may be able to catch a block going bad while it is still automatically recoverable and remap it without causing any trouble. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC11 missing dependencies on a new install
On 09-10-30 12:13:41, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have just completed a new install on my ASUS ee 701 and now am trying to do a yum update. I am hitting some missing dependencies. I will TRY and get them all here, reading from one screen and typing here... python-nose by numpy kasumi by ibus-anthy python-enchant by ibus-pinyin jline by rhino yum suggests I use 0--skip-broken 'to work around the problem' Recommendations please? Well, my copy of python-nose is in the fedora repo, while numpy is in updates. Do you have the fedora repo enabled? yum (or the fastestmirror plugin?) lists the mirrors being used, so you should see both fedora and updates listed when you do `yum update`. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora PPC for oldworld Mac?
On 09-10-29 08:18:30, David Woodhouse wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 22:25 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-10-28 18:24:49, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 06:17:31PM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: Sorry to bug developers, but I didn't get any bites from PPC users on fedora-list. Does Fedora PPC work or install on oldworld PCI Macs, such as a beige G3 desktop? My impression is that no one has tried it on an oldworld No, it doesn't. The ppc specific release notes cover that here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11/en-US/ index.html#sect-Release_Notes-Hardware_Requirements I'd looked at the release notes. They says Minimum CPU: PowerPC G3... and Although Old World machines should work, they require a special bootloader which is not included in the Fedora distribution. My question is whether anyone has tried it in any recent Fedora release and knows whether should means do or don't. (FWIW, the special bootloader is BootX, and Debian Lenny is installing now, so /some/ form of Linux works. I just don't know anything but hearsay about Debian. I see it uses apt.) I don't know of anyone who's tried it recently, but in the past we've fixed things in the kernel to make it work properly on OldWorld Macs and it _has_ been known to work fine. I received a reply off-list from someone who did sucessfully install F11 on an oldworld Mac. It _ought_ to work if you sort out the bootloader. I was able to get a Debian Lenny install working (after sorting out the bootloader :-), so I am encouraged. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora PPC for oldworld Mac?
On 09-10-29 16:41:57, King InuYasha wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:18 AM, David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.orgwrote: On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 22:25 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-10-28 18:24:49, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 06:17:31PM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: Sorry to bug developers, but I didn't get any bites from PPC users on fedora-list. Does Fedora PPC work or install on oldworld PCI Macs, such as a beige G3 desktop? My impression is that no one has tried it on an oldworld No, it doesn't. The ppc specific release notes cover that here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11/en-US/ index.html#sect-Release_Notes-Hardware_Requirements I'd looked at the release notes. They says Minimum CPU: PowerPC G3... and Although Old World machines should work, they require a special bootloader which is not included in the Fedora distribution. My question is whether anyone has tried it in any recent Fedora release and knows whether should means do or don't. (FWIW, the special bootloader is BootX, and Debian Lenny is installing now, so /some/ form of Linux works. I just don't know anything but hearsay about Debian. I see it uses apt.) I don't know of anyone who's tried it recently, but in the past we've fixed things in the kernel to make it work properly on OldWorld Macs and it _has_ been known to work fine. If Mac OS isn't bootable, then you need to use quik ( http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/quik/ ) instead of BootX. I don't think that would help fix the unbootable MacOS, but in any case quik doesn't work if Linux is installed on a drive not the boot drive, as it is here. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Fedora PPC for oldworld Mac?
Sorry to bug developers, but I didn't get any bites from PPC users on fedora-list. Does Fedora PPC work or install on oldworld PCI Macs, such as a beige G3 desktop? My impression is that no one has tried it on an oldworld Mac in the last few releases, and that getting it to boot at all would be an adventure. (Otherwise I'm going to try Debian Lenny, which is said to work, but about which I know nothing. The machine has 416 MB memory and I'll install a 40 GB hard disk for Linux, so other than speed it should be good to go.) -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora PPC for oldworld Mac?
On 09-10-28 03:56:38, Gianluca Sforna wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: Does Fedora PPC work / install on oldworld PCI Macs, such as a beige G3 desktop? My impression is not. How did you form this impression? Did you actually try to install the PPC spin from: http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-ppc ? No. I saw nothing that indicated support for oldworld Macs -- if you can persuade them to boot they probably ought to work shows they haven't been tried and that I would have a hard time in any case, and on PenguinPPC.org, I found a table [2] saying only newworld for Fedora. I did start downloading the F12Beta PPC torrent, but it was slow (few seeds, few peers), and I found the lack of support before it got far. The F11 PPC torrent is fast (but still no peers or sharing). Now back to my question. Have /you/ installed a recent Fedora on an oldworld PCI Mac? Or do you know of anyone who has? [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SupportedPowerPC#Old_World_Mac [2] http://penguinppc.org/about/distributions.php -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora PPC for oldworld Mac?
On 09-10-28 15:02:25, Gianluca Sforna wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: No. I saw nothing that indicated support for oldworld Macs -- if you can persuade them to boot they probably ought to work shows they haven't been tried and that I would have a hard time in any case, and on PenguinPPC.org, I found a table [2] saying only newworld for Fedora. Ah sorry, I completely missed the new/old world distinction; Aha! It's the only reason to think Fedora wouldn't work. thanks for the pointers. You're welcome. Now back to my question. Have /you/ installed a recent Fedora on an oldworld PCI Mac? Or do you know of anyone who has? I don't owe any Mac hardware (I'd probably add unfortunately...), I stopped buying Macs 10 years ago, when NeXT took over Apple and replaced MacOS with NextStep, calling it MacOSX, so I can't agree. but I think there are developers with different kind of PPC macs around in fedora-devel. I'll bug them instead. However, from the wiki link you gave, I also suspect there could be no significant userbase among them for those oldworld macs, otherwise the text would be more encouraging. It's 10 years old! Two years older than my PC. I just don't need it much as a Mac anymore. On the flip side, it looks like the wiki page is quite old, and the text seems to indicate the real problem is how to start the installation (yes, this is entirely my own speculation...) so at least you have some pointers to work on... Yes. Clearly I'll start with Debian, which claims to work and has more instructions, and if it boots the installer I might possibly try Fedora. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora PPC for oldworld Mac?
Does Fedora PPC work / install on oldworld PCI Macs, such as a beige G3 desktop? My impression is not. Otherwise I'm going to try Debian Lenny, which is said to work, but about which I know nothing. (The machine has 416 MB memory and I'll install a 40 GB hard disk for Linux, so other than speed it should be good to go.) -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Qemu vs VMWare
On 09-10-26 08:12:45, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 04:15:34 Tony Nelson wrote: The way recommended by QEMU developers is to use KVM, purchasing new hardware that supports KVM if necessary, in which case you won't need to use much of QEMU. ... Good performance on other hardware requires the kernel module kqemu. The QEMU developers have deprecated kqemu and are removing it from the next version (.12 IIRC), but you can currently still use kqemu if you build QEMU with kqemu enabled. ... Ok, so I did a yum search and a yum install kqemu, which pulled in appropriate kmod packages and all. Then I started the qemu guest to see what happens. But the module did not get loaded (lsmod doesn't report it). I shutdown the guest, loaded the module manually via modprobe (which worked), checked that it is loaded, started the guest again, and went to see if there is any performance difference. But there wasn't. So I wonder how to use the kqemu module? Or rather, how to explain to qemu that there is a module loaded and that it should use it? There is nothing obvious in the GUI about this, where do I set it up? As I said, you need to build QEMU with kqemu support. If default Fedora rpm version of qemu is *not* built with kqemu enabled, then that is very unfotunate, since I don't want to recompile the whole qemu in order to avoid recompiling vmware modules. That would defeat the whole point f using it in the first place. Support for kqemu was removed from QEMU when KVM support was added, and kqemu itself will be removed soon. You should use some other product, either VirtualBox or VMWare. So can you tell me how to get the kqemu module to work? ... Rebuild QEMU with the patches in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520284, using a version of QEMU that still has kqemu in it (version .12, I think). -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Qemu vs VMWare [SOLVED]
On 09-10-26 21:00:56, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:17:59 Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-10-26 08:12:45, Marko Vojinovic wrote: So can you tell me how to get the kqemu module to work? Rebuild QEMU with the patches in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520284, using a version of QEMU that still has kqemu in it (version .12, I think). Ok, this bugzilla entry was an informative read. So I guess it is time to drop qemu and try out virtualbox. Hopefully it has better support for my hardware. As for compiling qemu, I guess it is doable, but in my case not worth the effort. There isn't any future in it, anyway. Thanks for the info! ;-) You're welcome. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Qemu vs VMWare
On 09-10-25 17:05:32, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Hi everyone! :-) I wish to share my first hands-on experience with qemu, compare it to vmware player, and (since I'm highly disappointed with the performance difference) ask is there anything that can be done configuration-wise to improve the user experience under qemu. ... The way recommended by QEMU developers is to use KVM, purchasing new hardware that supports KVM if necessary, in which case you won't need to use much of QEMU. Good performance on other hardware requires the kernel module kqemu. The QEMU developers have deprecated kqemu and are removing it from the next version (.12 IIRC), but you can currently still use kqemu if you build QEMU with kqemu enabled. I have just switched from QEMU to VirtualBox (with RPMFusion enabled, `yum installVirtualBox-OSE`) and can recommend it, unless your VM needs access to your actual USB devices or needs to be controlled remotely, as those features are not open source. I was able to configure VirtualBox to use the same disk partition (which appears as a partitioned disk itself) as with QEMU, and network setup was much easier and didn't require any equivalent to the custom scripts I wrote for QEMU. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is VNC, FC11
On 09-10-24 02:30:32, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 00:46 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-10-23 14:03:49, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 12:55 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Tait Clarridge t...@clarridge.ca said: A good way to search for packages that may not have easy names is: [user @ host ~]$ yum list | grep -i vnc A little easier is: # yum list '*vnc*' Yes, but I threw the grep -i in there for case insensitivity.. sometimes special packages have a capital letter that yum list won't get by itself. Are you sure about that? Give an example where it happens. (Hint.) Well, I'll be. I guess I am just used to doing it my way. Guess I should have tested it before opening my mouth. Plus, yum list with wildcards is faster than with grep so I will start using that now. Thanks for the clarification. What surprises me from time to time is that `yum install` does not fold case. I know that, and I'm still surprised. But `yum install` does have the useful ability to install a command by name: # yum install '/*/growisofs' which is handy if you don't know what package contains the command (or even where the command will be installed). The leading slash is required. `yum provides` can also find files to install, but the leading / is optional, so both work: # yum provides '*/gobject-2.0.pc' # yum provides '/*/gobject-2.0.pc' `yum install` gives a poor guess (here, at least) for that file. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is VNC, FC11
On 09-10-23 14:03:49, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 12:55 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Tait Clarridge t...@clarridge.ca said: A good way to search for packages that may not have easy names is: [user @ host ~]$ yum list | grep -i vnc A little easier is: # yum list '*vnc*' Yes, but I threw the grep -i in there for case insensitivity.. sometimes special packages have a capital letter that yum list won't get by itself. Are you sure about that? Give an example where it happens. (Hint.) -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rpmnew files
On 09-10-20 17:49:28, nodata wrote: Hi, What's with the extra rpmnew files on an upgrade? Some examples: # md5sum /etc/pki/tls/openssl.cnf.rpmnew /etc/pki/tls/openssl.cnf 7c8f8d809c5b618e1604207525161101 /etc/pki/tls/openssl.cnf.rpmnew 7c8f8d809c5b618e1604207525161101 /etc/pki/tls/openssl.cnf ... Let me tell you about the `cmp` command. In my case: # cmp /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-free.repo* # cmp /usr/lib/security/classpath.security* /usr/lib/security/classpath.security /usr/lib/security/ classpath.security.rpmnew differ: byte 1874, line 39 :-) /var/lib/games/same-gnome.Small.scores.rpmnew /var/log/mail/statistics.rpmnew Not sure why we would ever need an rpmnew file for that: should these be labelled as something other than config files? Or perhaps not make .rpmnew files for empty config files. Another one: # md5sum /usr/share/info/dir.rpmnew /usr/share/info/dir 91ba35a21c163a55982bedaab076bc7f /usr/share/info/dir.rpmnew 0737290f14a0ce86986de276d1083783 /usr/share/info/dir # wc -l /usr/share/info/dir.rpmnew /usr/share/info/dir 22 /usr/share/info/dir.rpmnew 2127 /usr/share/info/dir 2149 total I didn't change this file. That's weird. Same case here: ... It's actually a sort of database for the info command. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: python error with yum on F11
On 09-10-20 05:07:51, Mark Perew wrote: ... rpm -q python yum python-2.6-9.fc11.i586 yum-3.2.24-2.fc11.noarch Good. rpm -V python S.5T./usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.pyc Yeah. I'm a little confused by that. So, I checked the date: ll /usr/lib/python2.6/sub* -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 45471 2009-06-08 16:07 /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 119 2009-08-26 21:15 /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.pyc -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 32985 2009-06-08 16:07 /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.pyo I am baffled as to what would have caused the module to recompile on 8/26. It probably is not a recompile, but rather something else bad. Anyway, that would be your problem with yum. Before you rm that bad subprocess.pyc, what does file say about it? You might also consider forcing an fsck (e.g., `touch /forcefsck ; reboot`). rpm -V yum returns no output. Good. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: input/output error on disk(?)
On 09-10-20 03:03:25, charles zeitler wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: ... I wouldn't expect fsck to succeed if there were a bad dir file. u huh. well , apparently, the block that's causing the 'read failure' isn't being used by a (normal) file... but, i'm planning on an upgrade anyways, that'll be an opportunity to clean things up. thanks for guiding me in the use of smartctl /dev/zero. stuff i'll probably need again. You're welcome, and good luck. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: python error with yum on F11
On 09-10-20 22:34:12, Mark Perew wrote: On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.comwrote: It probably is not a recompile, but rather something else bad. Anyway, that would be your problem with yum. Before you rm that bad subprocess.pyc, what does file say about it? You might also consider forcing an fsck (e.g., `touch /forcefsck ; reboot`). file says it is python 2.6 byte-compiled OK. Odd that it is clearly wrong, but at least it's a plausible type of file and an fsck does not seem indicated. My thanks to you, as well, for your assistance. You're welcome. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: input/output error on disk(?)
On 09-10-18 17:34:11, charles zeitler wrote: am now running the new, improved 'cp /dev/zero' done. 'current_pending' reduced to 1. trying a long test... done. still showing the 'read failure', on the same block, with 90% unchecked... i'll try to work out something to check bad dir files... Or maybe back up and restore, possibly with the manufacturer's low- level format in between? I wouldn't expect fsck to succeed if there were a bad dir file. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: qemu (with kqemu) show an error about an _invalid option_
On 09-10-18 17:08:15, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: ... i've successfully rebuild qemu rpm with kqemu support, but now i need to add in /etc/yum.conf: exclude=qemu-* to prevent yum from overbidding my packages when i'll do an update. am i right? Yes, though I'd use qemu* unless you don't have the qemu metapackage installed. (Personally, I just rebuild qemu when I need to use it after an update.) I've added comments to closed Bug 520284 - KQEMU support not compiled after F11 QEMU-KVM merge. You and other kqemu users may wish to comment there as well.) -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: python error with yum on F11
On 09-10-20 01:17:45, steve wrote: Hello Mark, On 10/20/2009 06:48 AM, Mark Perew wrote: Popen is supposed to be provided by subprocess.py, and I've confirmed that class Popen is in the /usr/lib/python2.6/ subprocess.py module. I don't see anything helpful on the website above, or in a google search, or in pinging a few helpful associates. Any guidance from this community will be appreciated. I think you might have (possibly inadvertently) messed up your python installation. Check the following: $ python --version # should show you Python 2.6 $ python -c import sys; print sys.path # This should show you the places that python would look for modules such as Popen. It ideally should include '/usr/lib/ python2.6/' (and '/usr/lib64/python26 if you have a x86_64 box). $ echo $PYTHONPATH # This env variable is passed to python to modify the sys.path (mentioned above) at runtime. This should ideally not exist if you don't do any python development yourself. Let us know what you find, If the above seem OK, then: rpm -q python yum# should be python-2.6-xxx, yum-3.2.xxx rpm -V python# should produce no output rpm -V yum # should produce no output or only /etc/yum.conf -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome session control entry missing
On 09-10-18 14:32:01, paul van der meij wrote: After migrating from FC9 to FC11 i noticed that the gnome session entry has disappeared from the taskbar-system-preferences menu. I used it mainly for saving my current session, and now use manually '/usr/bin/gnome-session-save'. Is this on purpose removed? or is this something for the gnome- people. There's something under Startup Applications : Options tab. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: input/output error on disk(?)
On 09-10-17 01:14:42, charles zeitler wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:49 PM, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the help, Tony. i finally checked the results of cat'ing to /dev/null, which found 11 troubled files. having removed them, am now running smartctl -t on umounted disk. # tar -cvf - --ignore-failed-read --one-file-system / \ 2/some/other/volume/tarfiles.txt | cat /dev/null Good luck. -- second try of smartctl -t yielded the same results- i may have removedfiles from 11 bad blocks- and missed the first. Sadly, you have not fixed any of the bad blocks by deleting the files. The bad blocks will only be replaced when they are written to. Now that the files are deleted, you will need to write to all the free space of the drive to write to the defective blocks. This should do the trick (as root, or from the Rescue CD): # cp /dev/zero junk ; rm junk am now running the tar seq. above (fingers crossed) I don't expect it to find any defective files, as you already deleted them. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: qemu (with kqemu) show an error about an _invalid option_
On 09-10-17 13:22:40, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: ... Does newer version of virt-manager support kqemu ? so when i will recompile (repackage) qemu with kqemu support i can use virt-manager as i was. No idea. KVM can't use it, and doesn't need it. I don't know what virt-manager would do about kqemu anyway. (i fear that virt-manger generate -no-kqemu option) The Fedora qemu SRPM was changed to eliminate kqemu from the build, probably because qemu-kvm can't build with kqemu and because of the false rumor that kqemu no longer helps. It is not done by virt- manager. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: input/output error on disk(?)
On 09-10-17 14:35:45, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:17:36 -0400, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: Sadly, you have not fixed any of the bad blocks by deleting the files. The bad blocks will only be replaced when they are written to. Now that the files are deleted, you will need to write to all the free space of the drive to write to the defective blocks. This should do the trick (as root, or from the Rescue CD): He should be able to get the sector numbers by running long self tests. On the disks I have own, this only gets you one sector per scan rewrite cycle. He gets some of them, then the test aborts. He needs to fix at least those sectors in order to proceed with the test. Also note that linux tools such as dd write 8 sectors at a time and if you try to write less than that, a read will be tried first which will most likely fail because of the bad sector. I don't think he uses dd. As all the defective files have been deleted, the command I gave should write all the bad sectors in about the time to do a long test, even bad sectors that haven't been reported yet due to the self-test aborting (though I should have said rm -f). -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: input/output error on disk(?)
On 09-10-16 00:00:16, charles zeitler wrote: thanks for the help... On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Tony Nelson I don't know of anything specifically intended to find the damaged files. e2fsck will map out bad blocks, but doesn't (AFAIK) tell one which files are damaged. I think tar can be used to find such, files but I'm not sure. As you know of one file that has a problem, I suggest trying this command on the directory which contains that file: # tar -cf - --ignore-failed-read /path/to/bad/file's/dir \ /dev/null Possibly -v will also be needed. In that case, the full scan should probably write the messages to a file: # tar -cvf - --ignore-failed-read --one-file-system / \ /dev/null 2/some/other/volume/tarfiles.txt I don't happen to have any bad blocks to try this on. tar seems not to read files that are headed to /dev/null (?) Lovely. Well then: # tar -cvf - --ignore-failed-read --one-file-system / \ 2/some/other/volume/tarfiles.txt | cat /dev/null trying cat instead. since i am working with hundreds of gigabytes... it could take awhile. Good luck. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: qemu (with kqemu) show an error about an _invalid option_
On 09-10-16 15:31:46, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
Hi All,
When i try to run
qemu -kernel-kqemu
or
qemu -no-kqemu
i get error about an _invalid option_
i think that the fedora 11 qemu packages are build without support
for kqemu ( which has been installed from rpm-fusion repos)
i have noticed that by the degradation of performance of VMs from
virt-manager. how i can fix that ?
Someone believes that QEMU no longer benefits from kqemu. Also, kqemu
is incompatible with kvm.
You will need to rebuild qemu with kqemu enabled. Attached are two
patches: one to be placed in rpmbuild/SOURCES, and the other to serve
as a guide to altering the qemu.spec file (please don't use my
initials when you set the version). Use `rpmbuild --recompile -bp
qemu-*.src.rpm` to unpack the files (you can interrupt the build with
Ctl-C once you see that %prep has been started), and after altering the
spec file, `rpmbuild -ba qemu.spec` to build with the altered spec
file.
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--- qemu-kvm-0.10.6/configure.orig 2009-09-01 21:48:19.515745113 -0400
+++ qemu-kvm-0.10.6/configure 2009-09-01 22:05:54.525749602 -0400
@@ -328,7 +328,6 @@
kqemu=yes
audio_possible_drivers=$audio_possible_drivers fmod
kvm=yes
-kqemu=no
fi
if [ $cpu = ia64 ] ; then
kvm=yes
--- qemu.spec 2009-09-29 16:55:57.0 -0400
+++ qemu.spec.patched 2009-10-07 20:45:34.590096056 -0400
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
Summary: QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator
Name: qemu
Version: 0.10.6
-Release: 6%{?dist}
+Release: 7_GAN
# Epoch because we pushed a qemu-1.0 package
Epoch: 2
License: GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ and BSD
@@ -36,7 +36,8 @@
Patch16: qemu-ppc-on-ppc.patch
Patch17: qemu-use-statfs-to-determine-huge-page-size.patch
Patch18: qemu-allow-pulseaudio-to-be-the-default.patch
-Patch19: qemu-fix-virtio-net-gso-support.patch
+
+Patch999: qemu-config-allow-kqemu.patch
BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
BuildRequires: SDL-devel zlib-devel which texi2html gnutls-devel cyrus-sasl-devel
@@ -238,7 +239,7 @@
%patch16 -p1
%patch17 -p1
%patch18 -p1
-%patch19 -p1
+%patch999 -p1
%build
# systems like rhel build system does not have a recent enough linker so
@@ -266,7 +267,8 @@
--audio-drv-list=pa,sdl,alsa,oss \
--disable-strip \
--extra-ldflags=$extraldflags \
---extra-cflags=$RPM_OPT_FLAGS
+--extra-cflags=$RPM_OPT_FLAGS \
+--disable-kqemu
make V=1 %{?_smp_mflags} $buildldflags
cp -a x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 qemu-kvm
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Re: input/output error on disk(?)
On 09-10-15 01:29:22, charles zeitler wrote: when trying to copy a certain file, i get the message: cp: reading 'file' : Input/output error i took the volume it was on offline, did a forced e2fsck. same thing. smartctl -H tells me the drive 'passes' . i can change the name with mv, no problem there. are there any other (non-destructive) steps i can take? It is likely that the disk has one or more bad blocks. Use `smartctl -a /dev/sdx` to see all the data (or -A to see only the attributes) and look at the raw values of Current_Pending_Sector and Reallocated_Event_Count. The first reflects unfixed problems, and the second fixed problems. If both numbers are low, I would just keep using the drive, though I would first do a long test with `smartctl -t long /dev/sdx` (wait until the indicated time and then do a `smartctl - a /dev/sdx` to see what happened) and then enabled Automatic Offline Testing with `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx` (this will help keep up with sectors as they go bad, without unnecessary data loss). A program such as ddrescue (`yum install ddrescue`, `info ddrescue`) may help to salvage the damaged file(s). -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: input/output error on disk(?)
On 09-10-15 16:28:03, charles zeitler wrote: thanks for the info. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: On 09-10-15 01:29:22, charles zeitler wrote: when trying to copy a certain file, i get the message: cp: reading 'file' : Input/output error It is likely that the disk has one or more bad blocks. Use `smartctl -a /dev/sdx` to see all the data (or -A to see only the attributes) and look at the raw values of Current_Pending_Sector and Reallocated_Event_Count. The first reflects unfixed problems, and the second fixed problems. If both numbers are low, 13 0 13 is a bit high considering that it reflects only the bad blocks that have been noticed, but it could still be from a single bad area. The results from the long test will help decide. I would just keep using the drive, though I would first do a long test with `smartctl -t long /dev/sdx` (wait until the indicated time and then do a `smartctl - a /dev/sdx` to see what happened) should have more data from this in 4 hours. OK. and then enabled Automatic Offline Testing with `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx` (this will help keep up with sectors as they go bad, without unnecessary data loss). A program such as ddrescue (`yum install ddrescue`, `info ddrescue`) may help to salvage the damaged file(s). the file itself is not important, but i don't want the error to migrate to one that is.. That won't happen, as the drive will use a good block to replace the bad block when it is written to. The real question is how many more blocks will go bad, and the long test should give a hint about that. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: input/output error on disk(?)
On 09-10-15 21:27:50, charles zeitler wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: On 09-10-15 16:28:03, charles zeitler wrote: thanks for the info. well, the results are in. the Self-test execution status says that the read element of the test failed. later, it shows: Num Test_DescriptionStatus Remaining # 1 Extended offlineCompleted: read failure 90% LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error 7091 686876074 Current_Pending_Sector Reallocated_Event_Count are unchanged. ( but Offline_Uncorrectable reads at 12 ). does this mean i have 90% unchecked? and 12 uncorrectable blocks? Yes, it seems to have given up at 12 blocks. The trick is to find what files those are and deal with them, so that the test can be run again to see what else it might find. Once the damaged files are found, you can decide whether to recover them, restore them from backup or some other source, or just delete them. I don't know of anything specifically intended to find the damaged files. e2fsck will map out bad blocks, but doesn't (AFAIK) tell one which files are damaged. I think tar can be used to find such files, but I'm not sure. As you know of one file that has a problem, I suggest trying this command on the directory which contains that file: # tar -cf - --ignore-failed-read /path/to/bad/file's/dir /dev/null Possibly -v will also be needed. In that case, the full scan should probably write the messages to a file: # tar -cvf - --ignore-failed-read --one-file-system / /dev/null \ 2/some/other/volume/tarfiles.txt I don't happen to have any bad blocks to try this on. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
On 09-10-10 14:37:29, Steven W. Orr wrote:
... Here's what I added to my httpd.conf:
RewriteLoglogs/rewrite_log
RewriteLogLevel 1
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^msnbot.* [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^NaverBot.* [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^Sogou-Test-Spider.*
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^Mozilla/4.0.*
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^T-Mobile Dash.*
RewriteRule .* - [F,L]
and inside each of the virtual domains, I added:
RewriteEngine On
RewriteOptions Inherit
Here's the problem. What I want to see is the rewrite_log telling me
what it has redirected or failed. Instead, I'm getting a line telling
me every link that it does NOT rewrite. For example:
72.30.65.61 - - [10/Oct/2009:14:28:24 --0400] \
[vdom.syslang.net/sid#b7298ed0][rid#b6b488e8/initial] (1) pass
through /d1/fn
I have googled my brains out and it seems like others have had the
same questions. I see no answers. If anyone has any idea I love to
hear it.
WAG: The RewriteRule doesn't actually rewrite anything. Perhaps
something would be logged if it did. You'd probably still have the
other log lines as well.
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Re: Fedora 11 - Cannot Set Screen Resolution
On 09-10-09 01:38:50, alexg wrote: After some bumbling around I found that the problem was to do with Fedora 11 and KMS. I was able to reboot the machine with nomodeset and fixed Xorg.conf so that 1280x1024 is available. In Gnome I played with the display settings and now I have something that is working very well. It is a bit of a work around, but hopefully the KMS interoperability with the Intel chipset will be fixed. File a bug! Provide whatever logs or output the devs request. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bash oom problem
On 09-10-04 06:17:20, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/10/4 psmith psm...@fedoraproject.org:
hi list, whilst trying to run this bash command
for w in {A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z} ;do echo
$w;done
wl1
Consider that for a second...
You are trying to generate a list of all possible combinations of an
8 character word composed of only uppercase letters - that's 26^8
combinations (208 Billion). Each word is 8 bytes long, which I make
to be 1670616516608 bytes... or to put it another way, 1.5 TB
So, you've got 4 GB of virtual memory and you are trying to fit an
1555GB array into it. Simple mathematics says no. Dumping the
arguments before it dies is pointless, because it hasn't even got as
far as expanding arguments yet.
You need to think of another was to do this and I humbly suggest that
Bash should not be high on your list.
Bash should be OK if Pathname Expansion is used instead of the more
general Brace Expansion:
$ for w in [[:upper:]][[:upper:]][[:upper:]][[:upper:]][[:upper:]]
[[:upper:]][[:upper:]][[:upper:]] ; do echo $w ; done
However, if there are no matches, the match string will be tried unless
the shell options failglob is unset and nullglob is set:
$ ( shopt -s nullglob ; shopt -u failglob ; for w in [[:upper:]]
[[:upper:]][[:upper:]][[:upper:]][[:upper:]][[:upper:]][[:upper:]]
[[:upper:]] ; do echo $w ; done )
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Re: Questionable Status
On 09-10-01 09:45:06, David Timms wrote: On 09/24/2009 02:05 AM, Frank Cox wrote: I haven't seen anything about SMART on any of my Fedora desktops; what am I missing? You are missing disks with faults ;-) It's a good thing. Or you may not have Palimpsest (gnome-disk-utility) installed or running. I got it on a new install of F11-Live, but not on an upgrade from F9. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Questionable Status
On 09-10-01 09:09:40, Robin Laing wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-09-23 09:29:56, Gene Poole wrote: I've very recently upgraded 2 of my machines. One machine was upgraded from Fedora 9 to Fedora 11, and the other machine was upgraded from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11. On machine 1 I have 2-hard disks (both Seagate's - 500 GB and 1000 GB), on machine 2 I have 1- hard disk (Western Digital 320 GB). All of the interfaces are SATA. The questionable status is that on machine 1 the 500 GB drive is showing as failing and on machine 2 the 20 GB drive is showing as failing. Neither drive, under the old releases, showed up as failing. How do I know that these drive are truly failing? 1) Wait. If the disk is going bad, it will fail. 2) Run as root `smartctl -A /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) and look at the WHEN_FAILED column; it will be - if not failed. 3) Run as root `smartctl -a /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) and look at the whole output. 4) Run as root `smartctl -t long /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) and wait until the time the test should finish, then view the results with `smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) or `smartctl -a /dev/sdx` (for each sdx). See `man smartctl`. Note that the new disk health monitoring tool palimpsest in package gnome-disk-utility is panicky and not to be trusted, unless you like buying lots of hard drives. It doesn't just look at WHEN_FAILED, but has its own criteria such as nonzero Reallocated_Event_Count, which is fairly normal for a modern drive that has been in use for a while. A nonzero Current_Pending_Sector or Offline_Uncorrectable are bad, as they mean data loss, though not general drive failure. I recommend enabling Automatic Offline Testing with `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx` (for each sdx), which will do a surface scan every few hours, giving the best chance to repair or recover any sectors that are going bad. Will the `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx` (for each sdx), fix the nonzero Reallocated_Event_Count issue on RAID arrays in a non-desctructive way? No. Nor for non-RAID either. It doesn't fix Reallocated_Event_Count -- rather, its purpose is to make Reallocated_Event_Count go up faster, in that as soon as a sector starts to go bad it will be reallocated if readable, and the sooner the more likely it is possible. A non-zero Reallocated_Event_Count is not a problem. Whatever says it is a problem is the real problem. Fix that instead. Non-zero Current_Pending_Sector is a problem, but RAID should be fixing that already. I don't know, but I think that enabling Automatic Offline Testing should cause any uncorrectable sectors to be noticed and fixed sooner by RAID. Do you have to use the /dev/sdx devices or the /dev/md devices? ... Automatic Offline Testing must be enabled on an actual ATA hard disk, so no fake disk such as dm or md. See `man smartctl`. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: hde: lost interrupt
On 09-09-30 11:24:22, Richard Heck wrote: I am getting a lot of kernel errors of that type: hde: lost interrupt on one of my servers. (This is actually CentOS, not Fedora.) The errors are intermittent, but when they start they often will just keep coming, and the disk has locked up a couple times completely. Something presumably needs to be replaced, but the question is: What? The drive is a 500GB EIDE drive, connected via a Promise Ultra 100TX2 controller to some ancient motherboard. (This is a 300MHz Pentium II, acting as a server, including a media server.) The controller is needed because the old mobo bios won't deal with such large drives. There's another drive connected to the Promise, as hdf, and I'm not seeing errors from there. So, all in all, it looks as if it's probably the drive, even though the drive is less than a year old. But before I replace it, I thought I'd ask and see if anyone has any other ideas. It'll be a hassle to replace it, since it's part of a volume group, etc. Cable? Either a better cable, or improve its routing, or just crumple it so it can't cozy up to anything else, or simply unplug and replug it? Also, what's on the power connector? Unplug and replug that one too. Replacing the drive can be done by adding a new drive to the Volume Group and using pvmove (not that I've done it). -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: backlight control
On 09-09-30 01:27:30, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 09/29/2009 04:00 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-09-29 18:43:39, Konstantin Svist wrote: ... Thanks, that was it. The problem is that apparently X thinks my laptop panel doesn't support DPMS and because of that the backlight doesn't disable Where do I dig now? If `xset dpms force suspend ; sleep 10 ; xset dpms force on` doesn't work, try booting with the nomodeset kernel parameter. xset didn't work but nomodeset made it work. What's going on here? I thought modesetting was fully working/supported Work in progress in the video drivers. I really liked the modesetting, too... Who do I bug to fix it? Or how would I go about fixing it myself? File a bug against your video driver or just against xorg. Fixing it (Kernel Mode Setting) yourself is not feasible. Use the workaround you have now. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-packaging] Exemption for bundling local copy of system library?
On 09-09-29 15:37:10, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I would argue no. The guidelines are written to apply to all libraries except with very limited exceptions to keep this from happening because security vulnerabilities are not limited to network facing code, suid code, or any other class that we've been able to identify. The libz vulnerability many years ago is the classic example of this. Many programs were embedding libz, many statically. When a security vulnerability in libz was discovered, we had to find all of those programs, remove the vulnerable library, patch any code that didn't work with the newer version, and rebuild all of those packages. This is not what you want to do when you are in the time- constrained situation of putting out a zero day update to the code. ... If the number of exceptional packages is kept small, and the exeptions were to Provide private_libfoo (for each foo lib), then would it be manageable enough? At least it would be easy to find the broken packages, though they would still need to be fixed. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: backlight control
On 09-09-29 18:43:39, Konstantin Svist wrote: ... Thanks, that was it. The problem is that apparently X thinks my laptop panel doesn't support DPMS and because of that the backlight doesn't disable Where do I dig now? If `xset dpms force suspend ; sleep 10 ; xset dpms force on` doesn't work, try booting with the nomodeset kernel parameter. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome-terminal question
On 09-09-27 19:19:48, Richard England wrote: On 09/27/2009 02:09 PM, bruce wrote: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... i'm running fedora 9 thanks Have you investigated http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html What have you tried? If you post your trials, someone may spot a problem or we may be able to test it. I think the problem is that PROMPT_COMMAND is setting it each command, after you set it. Either unset PROMPT_COMMAND or change it to do what you want. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Opinions on packaging ATLAS (for the x86 architecture)
On 09-09-26 08:32:45, Kevin Kofler wrote: ... Of course the root of the problem is ATLAS's lack of support for runtime CPU feature detection ... Presumably that could be added to the Fedora package as a patch. It's SMOP to check the CPU and load the proper library, if someone who knew how were to do it. Other distros might also use such a patch. Then there would be only one package per arch, containing all variants. ... (The ATLAS developers expect everybody to compile a tuned ATLAS for their own machine and show only very limited interest in binary packaging.) I haven't been able to get that to work [1], but it does take over 3 hours to fail. I don't think most users can be expected to build their own ATLAS. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525818 -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: installing new graphics card
On 09-09-26 19:49:31, Gerhard Magnus wrote: ... Now, the matter of the new card. It's nvidia GeForce 6200 512MB -- of the Series 6 (I think) which, according to http://www.fedoraguide.info/index.php? title=Main_Page#Nvidia_.28For_GeForce_6.2C_7.2C_8.2C_9_.26_200_series_cards.29 should work with FC11, although gamers on the Web complain about it's being too old and slow. It works fine through the grub menu and the boot process up to starting X -- and then the monitor stops getting a signal. ... Try booting with the nomodeset kernel parameter, to disable Kernel Mode Setting for X? -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setup of DNS caching name server for home server
On 09-09-25 11:26:07, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:04 -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: ... I saw instructions to do this yum install caching-nameserver It installed bind. BTW, if I say rpm -q caching-nameserver it says package caching-nameserver is not installed. That sounds odd. Did you check for typing errors? Package bind provides caching-nameserver nowadays. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I can't connect via ssh
On 09-09-25 16:41:19, Aldo Foot wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Germán Racca german.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: I need to use ssh to transfer data between a PC and a notebook, both with Fedora 11, but the result is, from notebook to PC: $ ssh xx.xx.xx.xx ssh: connect to host xx.xx.xx.xx port 22: No route to host What is the output of `route` on that system? I expect that there is no route to the destination address. route can also be used to add a route with a command like `route add xx.xx.xx.xx dev eth0`, see `man route`. $ ping xx.xx.xx.xx From xx.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=11 Destination Host Unreachable From xx.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=12 Destination Host Unreachable From xx.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=13 Destination Host Unreachable From PC to notebook there is no response. Please can anybody help me? __ is this problem with ssh only? presumably you have a connection to the internet. and thus the NIC is up # ifconfig | grep UP on both machines, what do you get with: # iptables -L | grep ssh check that the sshd service is running # service sshd status I expect that the problem now is the route, but how are the two computers connected? If they both connect to a router / switch and can both use the Internet, then they should already see each other (usually). If they're just cabled together, well, that might not be working. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: My WebDav Calendar for Sunbird/Lightning has stopped working
On 09-09-23 23:04:59, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: My Home server has a WebDav Calendar named Home in /var/www/html/dav/Home.ics ... Error: Skipping Operating System timezone 'America/New'. TypeError: tz has no properties ... The only package changes I can see happened before: Sep 23 00:40:12 Updated: perl-Net-CIDR-Lite-0.20-4.fc10.noarch Sep 23 00:40:12 Updated: perl-MLDBM-2.01-7.fc10.noarch Sep 23 00:40:13 Updated: perl-Net-CIDR-0.13-2.fc10.noarch Sep 23 00:40:15 Updated: perl-Net-DNS-0.65-1.2.cf.fc10.i386 Sep 23 12:18:15 Installed: sunbird-0.9-3.fc10.i386 Nothing jumps out at me. FWIW, here tzdata was updated today, so perhaps, if you have automatic updates of some form, you actually have that update? -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sftp access to fedora11
On 09-09-24 00:24:58, Todd Zullinger wrote: online.service@gmail.com wrote: I don't have any ftp server installed/turned on , why i still have sftp access? Because sftp is provided by ssh. So if you're running an ssh daemon, you'll have sftp by default. And if you want to get rid of it, remove the SubSystem line in the server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config. See `man sshd_config`. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
