Re: new items not showing up on desktop
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 22:59 -0500, charles zeitler wrote: when i add items to desktop, with konqueror or konsole, they are not displayed on the screen. is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else? I have termed the desktop in KDE-4.x the dead zone. With the 4.1 updates, you can add the widget (right click on the desktop and select 'add widget'), called 'folder view' - but even that leaves much to be desired. On KDE 4, the 'Desktop' has definitely changed personality Craig When you say changed personality what does that mean? I see the folder within a larger back ground...where as gnome it seems to be the physical border of the screen? Is that correct? Travis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: When the floodgates open ...
When updates resume, would anything show up in package kit and how would your sort of non geeky/technical user fix the problem- would this involve updating mirrors by hand in a file? *Travis Arnold* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?
Ah ok, does anyone know of any plans for for the partitioner to be overhauled at some point? Travis *Travis Arnold* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?
Sorry, I guess I meant from an intuitiveness stand point, anyone know of plans to make it more user friendly? Or have clear directions on the side- something of that nature. Travis *Travis Arnold* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?
Chris Tyler wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 01:01 +0930, Tim wrote: I'm curious as to why installing from a live disc should be any better. Surely it'd use the same basic routines. The install from live disc basically consists of copying the ext3 filesystem to disk and then resizing it after the copy -- which is why it's so fast, and also why you can't select which packages will be installed. The default partitioner is a bad feature of Fedora, and must have caused many problems. It's worked pretty well on everything that I've tried it on, I can't say that I like the defaults (small boot, one / partition, one swap partition), but the defaults are fine for many people, and the tool's not too bad. I've certainly seen worse, and it's easier than doing maths in your head, or on paper, to work out your partition sizing with fdisk (planning what sizes you want for each). The one feature I'd really like to add is for you to be able to type in the disc labels that you want it to use, free-form. Seems there are a few common partitioning patterns. Maybe instead of a single default, Anaconda should offer a few of the more common patterns on a menu: LVM with separate /home, LVM with separate /home and /var, Non-LVM/Direct partitions OTOH, I can't see why you'd avoid LVM these days in most configurations. It's very stable, adds only very tiny overhead, and yet gives you a lot more flexibility for the future (disk migration, volume resizing, adding disks to existing filesystems, ...). It's saved my bacon numerous times. -Chris Ok, then I guess I'll probably keep LVM then and possibly try to make another partition within for /home. I think that if anaconda had other defaults or presets it might be helpful to those like myself who would want something different since (like me) we read that it is good practice to put /home on a seperate partition, but yet we don't know necessarily know how to. Trav -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?
Thomas Cameron wrote: Travis Arnold wrote: Erm I've been using ubuntu recently but would like to use fedora, but am not sure how to install, is it best to use live cd, or the dvd install medium? Either one should work, the DVD route is nice because all of the packages are right there. LiveCD can require that you install a lot of stuff over your Internet connection. Also how can I have a seperate home directory? the LVM section in the partitioning menu scared me off, I still have the live cd downloaded, but not the dvd, shall I just download that instead? You'll be faced with the same choices via LiveCD install or DVD install. LVM is just a way of carving up your partitions into logical volumes (think sub-partitions, sort of). Me personally, I don't really use LVM that much, I just create the first partition of 100 megs mounted on /boot, a second partition of about a gig mounted as swap, a third and partition of 8GB mounted as / and a fourth large-ish partition mounted as /home. This is not the One True Partitioning Scheme by any stretch. This is only what I like to do on my workstation. For a server that is almost definitely not a good partitioning scheme. Thomas Ok, so I don't even have to use LVM? That is so nice to know. I've looked around on Fedorasolved and I see the article about moving /home but is there another write up possibly dealing with how to instal l with out LVM? the interface doesn't(to me at least) seem quite as intuitive if one doesn't want to go with the defualt sheme. Thanks again Thomas for the help. Travis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?
Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:56 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: if I take the dvd, then I can choose what I can install? Yes, you can customise the install, adding packages, removing default ones. Though be aware that if you remove something that something else depends on, what you removed will be installed anyway. Ok, that makes sense. Is there a way I can not have evolution installed? or is it actually good? It seems sort of slow, but since I don't usually run it all day- or should I? Would it be best to open Evolution or Thunderbird in the morning when I turn my computer on, and then leave it running all day and just move it to another desktop or is closing it and reopening it better? I shall install tonight when I get back from class. I have turned html off (did I do it properly?) sorry about that, does the signature come out? or should I make a new one? Travis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Secrecy and user trust
John Aldrich wrote:
Quoting Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As noted, the detail I would have liked was to know if this was a
failure of system security or a failure of misplaced trust. If there is
a hole in their server system security it's likely to be in ours as
well.
And if someone could say with certainty that packages downloaded before
{date} were safe, it would be more reassuring than there is little
risk to Fedora users who wish to install or upgrade signed Fedora
packages. If the start date of the problem is known, that would be
really good information for people who keep a local repository and
don't have to upgrade every new install totally over the network.
Well, I know someone on this list said I should feel safe in upgrading
my F6 box to F9. I don't know if that answers your questions or not.
That being said, I think I'll wait until F10 or until fresh ISO images
come out. Despite the fact that my only installation is a single,
personal box, I don't want to risk getting hacked because someone *may*
have gotten some bogus packages into the system and/or compromised the
signing key for Fedora.
Unless/until someone from Fedora says It is safe to install Fedora 9
from the original ISO images distributed when F9 was released I am not
going to trust that they are safe.
Hey I am currently downloading the ISO dvd to install after I finish my
day's lessons, is this not a good idea to do?
Travis
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