Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files?
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:38 PM, DB freddog...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Subject:
Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
From:
Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net
Date:
Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:33:06 -0500
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There must be a way to save/export/import Thunderbirds email files
when going from F-11 to F-12! I have never been able to do this
You can also configure account settings/local folders
to a particular directory. Then it isn't necessary to copy
the .thunderbird directory. (You are actually copying over
a ${RANDOM}.default directory and pointing profiles.ini to
that random name. That's why you don't find your emails.
You have a new random subdirectory. Not clever, in
my estimation, but you can still configure your local
folders.
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Re: pdf editor to simply insert notes?
Why not use the Sun PDF Import Extension to OpenOffice.org? The extension opens the PDF as a Draw file, and you can add notes or anything else you want before creating a new PDF. -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7177 (on Pacific Time) Burnaby, BC, Canada web: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield blog: http://brucebyfield.wordpress.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12: Won't start X? (was Re: Preup to F12, won't boot)
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 n2xssvv.g02gfr12...@ntlworld.com wrote: I found earlier threads describing a similar problem with F12 alpha and beta, but found no solution. Any advice? If you have an NVidia graphics card, then wait. It's not ready for prime time yet. Of course, neither is openSuSE and with my NVidia card (GEFORCE 9400 GT), it is too new for Debian stable and Debian testing is, well, too raw. So, I'm still SOL and using flaky sound and video from an older release. :( Tiresome. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Interview with Paul Frields about Fedora 12 and the Fedora community
In case anyone is interested; http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3848891/Building-On-Ramps- on-the-Fedora-12-Highway.htm -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7177 (on Pacific Time) Burnaby, BC, Canada web: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield blog: http://brucebyfield.wordpress.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 installs report here.
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 14:56 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: Sound Just Works! Including the stuff from RPM Fusion. Now that is good news ! Cool. If only my system didn't lock up so tight I have to pull the plug to reboot. (Pressing the power button is insufficient.) DOA for me. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interview with Paul Frields about Fedora 12 and the Fedora community
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 15:19:33 Dave Stevens wrote: Quoting Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net: In case anyone is interested; http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3848891/Building-On-Ram ps- on-the-Fedora-12-Highway.htm Bruce, you gotta use tinyurl. Good point: http://tinyurl.com/yaxzs6d -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7177 (on Pacific Time) Burnaby, BC, Canada web: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield blog: http://brucebyfield.wordpress.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
ok took a look at the hoto that a few had referenced. it seems to apply to xterm windows, as opposed to gnome terms, but i went ahead and attempted to implement the escape sequences with no luck.. (could just be user error!) i also attempted to try to modify the underlying conf files for gnome-terminal, using the gconftool to dump the intial key/value pairs from my test gnome-terminal profile. steps: 1) create a test gnome profile 2) do a gconftool -- dump ./.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/test1 testconf (this gets a dump of the key/values for the test profile) 3) modify the title element/key in the dumped file.. 4) do a load of the new/modified dumped file, to see if this gets loaded in the current gnome-terminal with the changed title -- gconftool --load testconf the changed title is in the testconf file. the gnome-terminal title is still the same, ie the changes i made aren't in the profile, although there was/were no error generated by the --load of the conf file i also reset the PROMPT-COMMAND to just in the weird case it was somehow resetting my changes... i've seen a number of people who've had this same/similar question, with no apparent solution... i'm willing to create a short step-by-step process once this is solved! thoughts/comments/pointers... thanks... -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Tony Nelson Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:36 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question On 09-09-27 19:19:48, Richard England wrote: On 09/27/2009 02:09 PM, bruce wrote: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... i'm running fedora 9 thanks Have you investigated http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html What have you tried? If you post your trials, someone may spot a problem or we may be able to test it. I think the problem is that PROMPT_COMMAND is setting it each command, after you set it. Either unset PROMPT_COMMAND or change it to do what you want. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
hi dave... thanks... went back, and rechecked the howto... it was a user error! i had been using 003 instead of 033 .. gotta learn to read! and yeah.. i know the system is a few versions back! 09 vs 10.. thanks! ps. know.. if i can figure out how to use the gnome-terminal --execute foo without having the child process error msg appear... thanks again.. -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Dave Cross Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:42 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question 2009/9/27 bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... Follow the instructions at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html. You don't say which shell you're using, but using the default bash shell, you can do this: $ echo -ne \033]0;A New Title\007 You'll probably need to unset the PROMPT_COMMAND value first; $ export PROMPT_COMMAND= i'm running fedora 9 You know that's unsupported, right? I strongly recommend upgrading. hth, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
creating a new gnome terminal, running a command when the term starts...
Hi. I'm trying to create/invoke a new gnome-terminal, were i start/run a script when the term starts up.. from the gnome-terminal docs, i'm assuming i can accomplish this by using the -x/-e attribute when i fire up gnome-terminal... this doesn't work... others appear to have the same issue... so, when i do: gnome-terminal -x foo a new gnome term is created, but it hangs without a bash prompt (or any prompt) created. so it appears that a useless blank term window is displayed. the foo script is simply an empty script for testing. it has the chgrp of 777 with a chown of 777 and a chmod of +x. in the fstab, there is a default devpts so the virtual dev for the term window should be ok.. i think. i'm running an older fedora 9 for this test. any pointers/thoughts... thanks... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gnome-terminal question
hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... i'm running fedora 9 thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
upgrading in no way gets an answer to my question! but thanks!!! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Hiisi Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 2:18 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question 2009/9/28 bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... i'm running fedora 9 thanks Why do you need that? One thought: it's time to upgrade your system... -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
hi tony... i took a look at the howto earlier when i was looking.. couldn't get the escape sequences to work correctly... i then figured that i might be able to create a new gnome conf file, and to change the title in the xml, so that anytime i started a new gnome term, i could use the modified gconf xml... changed the title attribute in the xml, but when i create the gnome term, using the new gconf.. no luck... so i'm missing something... thanks -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Tony Nelson Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:36 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question On 09-09-27 19:19:48, Richard England wrote: On 09/27/2009 02:09 PM, bruce wrote: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... i'm running fedora 9 thanks Have you investigated http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html What have you tried? If you post your trials, someone may spot a problem or we may be able to test it. I think the problem is that PROMPT_COMMAND is setting it each command, after you set it. Either unset PROMPT_COMMAND or change it to do what you want. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
change gnome-terminal title from cmdline
hey... curious question... how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... it appears that the escape sequences i've tried aren't working... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
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Hi.. Trying to run a simple ldap search/query against a supposedly public ldap server. I've tried a number of copy/paste attempts that I've seen from various sites with no luck... If anyone has successfully pinged/queried a public ldap server from the cmdline, can you post your cmd that you used so I can see what I'm missing.. the site www.emailman.com/ldap/public lists a number of public ldap servers. i'm simply trying to figure out how to query/access the names from one of the ldap servers. as an example, i tried to use: ldapsearch -x -h ldap.bu.edu -b dc=bu,dc=edu (sn=tom*) (but this generates a ldap_bind: protocol error... however, if i do: ldapsearch -x -h stanford.edu -b dc=stanford,dc=edu (sn=tom*) or ldapsearch -x -h usc.edu -b dc=usc,dc=edu (sn=tom*) then i get back a list of data... also, the bu.edu for boston university, works on the website... so, i'm sure i'm missing something simple, but i can't pin it down. any help/pointers would be 'ppreciated! my goal is to be able to understand how to query a public ldap server and to be able to return different data elements.. (ie, name, given, first, or email/phone/etc..) Thanks! -Tom -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
ldapsearch cmdline question
Hi.. Trying to run a simple ldap search/query against a supposedly public ldap server. I've tried a number of copy/paste attempts that I've seen from various sites with no luck... If anyone has successfully pinged/queried a public ldap server from the cmdline, can you post your cmd that you used so I can see what I'm missing.. the site www.emailman.com/ldap/public lists a number of public ldap servers. i'm simply trying to figure out how to query/access the names from one of the ldap servers. as an example, i tried to use: ldapsearch -x -h ldap.bu.edu -b dc=bu,dc=edu (sn=tom*) (but this generates a ldap_bind: protocol error... however, if i do: ldapsearch -x -h stanford.edu -b dc=stanford,dc=edu (sn=tom*) or ldapsearch -x -h usc.edu -b dc=usc,dc=edu (sn=tom*) then i get back a list of data... also, the bu.edu for boston university, works on the website... so, i'm sure i'm missing something simple, but i can't pin it down. any help/pointers would be 'ppreciated! my goal is to be able to understand how to query a public ldap server and to be able to return different data elements.. (ie, name, given, first, or email/phone/etc..) Thanks! -Tom -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
attempting to do a ldapsearch on a public college ldap server...
Hi.. Trying to run a simple ldap search/query against a supposedly public ldap server. I've tried a number of copy/paste attempts that I've seen from various sites with no luck... If anyone has successfully pinged/queried a public ldap server from the cmdline, can you post your cmd that you used so I can see what I'm missing.. Thanks! -Tom -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Michael Hennebry Since I installed F11, rather a lot of labels are black on dark gray or black on black. 'Tis quite annoying. That's controlled by the theme and many need compositing on to avoid this. Experiment with themes until you get one that's better for you if you can't use Desktop Effects. I tried to play with themes, but could not find anything in the gui that even hinted at my problem. A friend of mine solved the problem. I had installed F11 and kept a home directory from F9. There have been syntax changes for data in the .kde directory. The new KDE was angry and taking it out on my labels. I'd just like a very simple recipe: do this, then this, then this. I really, _really_, *REALLY* do not want to have to go through the learning curve of figuring out how to fiddle desktop effects to do something that is very common and ought to be so easy. It used to be easy. 'Tis quite *beyond* just annoying. If anyone has such a recipe, *please* just post it. Thank you so much. Regards, Bruce -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two. Use the desktop cashew to zoom out create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started. Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other. Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was. Hi Anne, Surely you have to be kidding about the it's as easy as it always was comment. This is not easy. Especially when you use phrases like, Use the desktop cashew. WTF is that? (OK - I get testy before lunch time...;) Would you please be kind enough to explain the steps to someone who doesn't know a desktop cashew from a KDE activity? Thank you so much. Regards, Bruce -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
Fennix wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Bruce Korb bk...@gnu.org mailto:bk...@gnu.org wrote: I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two. Use the desktop cashew to zoom out create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started. Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other. Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was. Hi Anne, Surely you have to be kidding about the it's as easy as it always was comment. This is not easy. Especially when you use phrases like, Use the desktop cashew. WTF is that? (OK - I get testy before lunch time...;) Would you please be kind enough to explain the steps to someone who doesn't know a desktop cashew from a KDE activity? Thank you so much. Regards, Bruce Desktop icon in the upper (status?) bar? There is one in the top-right corner and another on the bottom-right corner of your KDE screen. The shape of the icon is the same as that for a cashew nut. Not sure whether the behaviours of each is different. The upper-corner cashew I am fairly certain should open with options to govern the general desktop behaviour. The lower-right cashew I think should be for the behaviour of your your task bar across the bottom of the screen. Found them both, thank you. I never saw the lower right one and the upper right one I didn't recognize as a desktop cashew. :) Still, after zooming out I never did find any create an activity menu or plasma configurator for that matter. I think there are a lot of developers that are completely uninterested in wading through all the minutia needed to figure this stuff out. We basically want to be able to readily see from our wall paper which room (desktop) we're in. It used to be easy. It sure ain't easy any more. Thank you for your help!! But, I'm still stuck with one wall paper for 12 desk tops. Regards, Bruce -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
KDE 4.1.3 release 8.13 Since it was a fresh download of a fairly recent distribution and there was no readily apparent desktop about, I was making incorrect assumption. Looks like I'll be anxiously awaiting the next distro with a KDE 4.3.x. Sorry for the bother. I wish the right-click-on-desktop had an about selection Thank you. Regards, Bruce (P.S. I got the KDE version from Konqueror) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [pnfs] NFSv4.1 (DEVELOPER ONLY)
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:19:27PM -0400, William A. (Andy) Adamson wrote: I think NFSv4.0 should be moved from EXPERIMENTAL before NFSv4.1 gets moved from DEVELOPER - EXPERIMENTAL! What is left to do in NFSv4.0 to allow this to happen? Todo's I know of that should probably be fixed first: - on the client side (we probably want to move client and server out of experimental at roughly the same time, if possible?) there's the mount negotiation to finish. Steve intends his mount configuration stuff to be a first step. - server-side exports coordinated with v2/v3: I need to take a day or two to think about Steve's patches. Will do that soon! - server-side reboot recovery code: the other kernel people really hate the current v4 recovery code, and it has indeed been a generator of weird bugs. I tried to pick this up early this week and write down a basic design, then got distracted. Would like to get this fixed sooner rather than later just because it will likely be a backwards-incompatible change, hence easier to do while there are fewer users. - proper delegation enforcement: currently e.g. if you edit a delegated file with a text editor, delegation-holding clients don't get an update (because the server is not correctly breaking leases on rename/unlink). I have a patch series that needs a few more bug fixes and some review. Some other todo's I can think of that I'm not might also block EXPERIMENTAL removal (but I'm not as sure): - Turn on 4.0 reply cache. Theoretical problem, not sure if we've seen it in practice. - Make sure deferrals don't replay non-idempotent operations. (Neil is close to fixing this.) Theoretical problem, not sure if we've seen it in practice. This is a little off the top of my head; anything I've forgotten? --b. ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
trying to find a path/file...
Hi... trying to figure out how to craft a find cmd to find a given file in a dir, that is changed more than x mins in the past i thought i could use a combination of find, wholename, and cmin... but those isn't giving me what i'm looking for... it's not returning any files... thought i could do a pipe, but that didn't work either i thought find . /foo/*.txt -cmin -10 would work, but that's not using the change cmin attribute... so i've also tried find . -cmin -10 -wholename '/foo/*.txt' with no luck as well... thoughts/comments would be 'ppreciated! thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: trying to find a path/file...
never mind!! arrggh.. figured it out... you can use the path, followed by the time, and the name... kind of like... find /foo -name *.tz* -cmin -200 which gets the targeted file... thanks! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Cameron Simpson Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:34 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: trying to find a path/file... On 09Jul2009 19:27, bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net wrote: | trying to figure out how to craft a find cmd to find a given file in a dir, | that is changed more than x mins in the past | | i thought i could use a combination of find, wholename, and cmin... but | those isn't giving me what i'm looking for... it's not returning any | files... | | thought i could do a pipe, but that didn't work either | | i thought | find . /foo/*.txt -cmin -10 would work, but that's not using the change | cmin attribute... | | so i've also tried | find . -cmin -10 -wholename '/foo/*.txt' with no luck as well... -10 is _less_ than 10 minutes in the past. Sure you don't mean +10? Also, why -wholename (which I don't use myself much, since it's GNU-specific I think)? If you leave off the -cmin -10, does the file show up at all? What do these do? find /foo/*.txt -ls find /foo/*.txt -cmin +10 -ls find /foo/*.txt -cmin -10 -ls Don't forget that while you _usually_ point find at directories, it can be pointed at files too. Also consider: find /foo -depth 1 -name '*.txt' -ls find /foo -depth 1 -name '*.txt' -cmin +10 -ls Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Expect all you want no one can force me to say anything intelligent.- Babs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Wiki abuse...
Hi, Just been browsing around the FUDCon pages, and found that you may want to update the details for FUDCon3 in London. Currently, it appears to contain nothing but links to pornographic material. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDCon3 Kind regards, Andy Bruce -- Andy Bruce Technical Marketing Engineer Telnet: (31)33260 External: +44-(0)131-331-6260 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
RE: Apache Virtual Server
print your complete httpd.conf file, as well as the /etc/host file let's take a look at what you have. -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Dennis Kaptain Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:59 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Server - Mensaje original De: Dennis Kaptain dkapt...@yahoo.com.mx Para: fedora-list@redhat.com Enviado: lunes, 27 de abril, 2009 12:59:46 Asunto: Apache Virtual Server I am playing with the Zend Framework on my laptop. In my reading of Zend documentation it looks like Zend wants a certain directory structure so I created: /var/www/html/QuickStart/ /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/ /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/controllers/ /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/views/ /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/views/scripts/ /var/www/html/QuickStart/library/ /var/www/html/QuickStart/public/ The last directory 'public' wants to be the DocumentRoot I want to set up a virtual server whose DocumentRoot is /var/www/html/QuickStart/public my machine's name is confianza and it is running Fedora 10 [r...@confianza conf]# uname -a Linux confianza 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:37:54 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I set up /etc/hosts so both confianza and confianzazend resolve to 127.0.0.1 [r...@confianza conf]# grep 127.0.0.1 /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost confianza confianzazend My current apache web server uses /var/www/html as it's DocumentRoot and runs fine. [r...@confianza conf]# yum list installed | grep -i http httpd.i386 2.2.11-2.fc10 installed httpd-tools.i3862.2.11-2.fc10 installed jakarta-commons-httpclient.i386 1:3.1-0.3.fc10 installed system-config-httpd.noarch 5:1.4.4-2.fc10 installed [r...@confianza conf]# yum list installed | grep -i zend php-ZendFramework.noarch I edited /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf as follows: # ServerName confianza:80 NameVirtualHost *:80 # ServerName confianza DocumentRoot /var/www/html # ServerName confianzazend DocumentRoot /var/www/html/QuickStart/public I then restart httpd [r...@confianza html]# service httpd restart Stopping httpd:[ OK ] Starting httpd:[ OK ] I want http://confianza to return the contents of /var/www/html I want http://confianzazend to return the contents of /var/www/html/QuickStart What is happening is that both http://confianza and http://confianzazend are both returning the contents of /var/www/html I've looked at several web pages and they all say the same thing, this should just work (TM). It seems simple enough yet my problem persists. What else do I need to do? Thanks Just a little more information from /var/log/httpd/access_log When I request http://localhost I get an entry that says 127.0.0.1 - - [28/Apr/2009:11:52:08 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.1 200 3488 - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708 Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10 When I request http://confianza I get an entry that says 127.0.0.1 - - [28/Apr/2009:11:53:06 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.1 200 3488 - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708 Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10 When I request http://confianzazend I get an entry that says 127.0.0.1 - - [28/Apr/2009:11:53:54 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.1 200 3492 - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708 Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10 All three entries are identical get requests for / Yet the php command ?php echo $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].br\n; ? in /var/www/html/index.php prints out 'localhost', 'confianza', or 'confianzazend' depending on what url I call. I have a feeling I'm on to it here but I'm not sure where to go next. DK ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=mx -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Chown ???
like i mentioned a 1972 teletype, with paper scroll tape, hooked to the local college system, as a 11 year old.. doing basic/GOTO/Loops... my 1st programming... wrote a really basic (pun intended!!) program to play poker.. 1st started learning statistical probability, arrays, etc... youth!! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Aldo Foot Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:17 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Chown ??? On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:07 AM, James Kosin jko...@beta.intcomgrp.com wrote: Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 21:55 +0100, psmith wrote: the first ever program being 10 print phil is cool 20 goto 10 run Blasphemer! Stone him, stone him, he used a GOTO! That word is forbidden and must never be uttered... ;-) Actually, GOTO was very heavily in BASIC programming language. There was no idea of statement blocks back then. It may be the only language at the time where it isn't considered taboo. James GOTO... A the coolness of BASIC programming before the Modern Computer Age. I had a friend that would use GOTO every few lines just because it was fun to do. ~af ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Chown ???
i had a trs-80/radio shack color computer in college... those where the
days...
in junior high... one of my math teachers was taking her 1st course in
programming.. basic.. she managed to somehow get a teletype machine, with
the yellow/white paper rolls, so we could actully login/access the local
college system, and that's where i started learning basic...
in 1972... damn i want a drink...
-Original Message-
From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com
[mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Gene Heskett
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:32 PM
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: Chown ???
On Thursday 09 April 2009, Jim wrote:
Rick Stevens wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 11:19 -0400, Jim wrote:
Rick Stevens wrote:
Jim wrote:
Rick Stevens wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 15:27 +, g wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
ttys
'b-'. you did not answer which model and usage of paper. :)
asr33, paper scroll :-)
ASR33s also had the paper tape punch and reader. KSR33s did
not. I had both hooked up to my Altair 8800 back in '77 via 110
baud, 20mA current
loop serial interfaces.
Ah, memories!
ASR33 on a Altair, that far back, You must be at least 100,
Smart*ss! Nah, I was in college (sophmore).
I started out on a RCA 1802 8 bit and I still have it. I modified
it to
work on S100 bus so I could get more memory , 64k , man you were
top dog with that kind of memory.
Only had 56K (seven 8KB RAM cards) and a nice 8K EPROM board (had
1702A
PROMS on it) holding a monitor program.
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I don't think anything has had a fast pace change like the Computer.
Then you had to really get into the nuts and bolts of a computer to
get one working.
I also still have a dual 8 floppy drive that was big back then.
I can remember when the 3 1/2, 1.4mb floppy first came boy did that
make a big difference.
Dear me, all you youngsters prattling on about these new-fangled
microprocessors. The first system I managed was a PDP-11/45.
Got ya beat. First managed a Univac (can't recall the model), moved to
an S/360, Burroughs Medium System 12, Xerox Sigma 7, DG Nova 2/10, DEC
PDP-8, PDP-11/45 and VAX 11/785, THEN got the Altairs and IMSAIs (and
Amigas and clones and lions and tigers and bears, oh my!).
And now, back to the real topic. (What was it again? I forget...)
-- Rick
I knew it , just give it time, and the BIG GUYS will jump out of the
Woodwork.
Did you ever buy a Trash-80 ?
Careful now, those are fightin words in this camp.
From another screen on this machine:
Welcome to minicom 2.3
OPTIONS: I18n
Compiled on Aug 29 2008, 07:16:49.
Port /dev/ttyS0
Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys
{t2|04}/DD:
Directory of . 2009/04/09 16:50
BOOTTRACK CMDSDEFSHDBDOS11.DSKMAXTOR
MODULES NEWBOOT NITROS9 NOS96309OLDCMDS
OLDDEFS OLDSYS PcDos.doc PcDos.doc1 Pcdos.lzh
SYS UTILS2 cc3go UTILS2.tmp dskini
dummy genestartyuptest.p old-sysgo
utils2.merge-list print-test.b09 sysgo sysgo.asm
SRC discscan4floppy dsave.out startup devel
p ekodrvr
-
That is the root directory of a Color Computer 3, running nitros9-3.2.8 as
the
os. The more things change, the more they stay the same, it is a
multiuser/multitasking os running on an 8 bit Hitachi 63C09 cpu, at 1.79
mhz/second. It has a 1GB scsi hard drive, 2 megs of ram. Lots more but I
suppose I'd bore the list. A true legacy computer, complete with a
bluetooth
serial port, although that was scraped from a wired connection.
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Cheers, Gene
There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
You have acquired a scroll entitled 'irk gleknow mizk'(n).--More--
This is an IBM Manual scroll.--More--
You are permanently confused.
-- Dave Decot
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RE: Damn ! That was easy, Firefox Plugins
i thought adobe now has 64/32 bit apps so there's no need for the nsplugin stuff... at least for fc9... i'm pretty sure i removed the nsplugin stuff, and simply installed the adobe64 and have ful functionality.. thoughts/comments -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Jim Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 5:05 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Damn ! That was easy, Firefox Plugins Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:28:35 -0400 Jim wrote: And I did install both the nspluginwrapper for 32 and 64 bit . That's the part that always gets me. It takes me forever to figure out I need both nspluginwrapper.x86_64 and nspluginwrapper.i386 to run 32 bit plugins on a 64 bit firefox. I kind of question that myself, example, before I installed nspluginwrapper-1386, I notice that the nspluginwrapper-X86_64 was already in Firefox plugin directory, so when I installed AdobeReader9 it was the nspluginwrapper-X86_64 that incorporated AdobeReader into Firefox. Am I right or Wrong ?? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: curl question...
Hmm JP... I registered with the curl-users list... never got'saw any traffic.. wasn't sure if I was registered, or if the list was up/running... Btw, managed to sove the cookies issue... thanks!! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Jake Peavy Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 8:26 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: curl question... On 4/1/09, bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi guys... I know this isn't the list for this question.. but i'm trying to get a quick resolve for a problem i have.. i'm prety sure it's user related. i'm doing a curl to a site, and not getting the results i'm looking for.. i've got the cookies/user-agent set.. i'm looking to talk to someone offlist about what i'm doing, and what i get.. to see if you/they get the same thing... so.. if there's anyone here, who's skilled with curl/cookies/user-agent, etc... and you're up to looking at my issue, let me know! thanks ps.. the curl mailing list hasn't replied as of yet.. I didn't see your post to the curl list... perhaps you had technical difficulties? I find Dan is very responsive. -- -jp A man doesn't automatically get my respect. He has to get down in the dirt and beg for it. deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
curl question...
Hi guys... I know this isn't the list for this question.. but i'm trying to get a quick resolve for a problem i have.. i'm prety sure it's user related. i'm doing a curl to a site, and not getting the results i'm looking for.. i've got the cookies/user-agent set.. i'm looking to talk to someone offlist about what i'm doing, and what i get.. to see if you/they get the same thing... so.. if there's anyone here, who's skilled with curl/cookies/user-agent, etc... and you're up to looking at my issue, let me know! thanks ps.. the curl mailing list hasn't replied as of yet.. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: system-config-printer can't find my remote printer ??
hi... thought this would have been solved by now!!! try this.. since this is an internal (to your house) network... turn off all selinux/security stuff... as well as all iptables stuff.. the idea is to let everything pass, and let's see if you can get the printer to work when everything is wide open. if you succeed, turn iptables back on.. and get the printer to work.. and then add seliunx... get back to us on your progress... -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Tim Waugh Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 4:30 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: system-config-printer can't find my remote printer ?? William Case wrote: Yes it is on by default. Double checked before replying and it is on. system-config-printer probes for any existing printers first then provides an installation page with several options. One option is HPLIP which I tried. It says it can't find a printer. (Actually I tried all the options -- none seemed to work). You shouldn't need to use system-config-printer on the upstairs machine; a minute or so after the firewall has been adjusted the queue should just appear in printing dialogs. See my other mail in this thread. Sounds like you need to use the printing troubleshooter: Help-Troubleshoot from the system-config-printer menu. Tim. */ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: file locking...
Hi Dennis... Thanks for the reply... Here's my solution up to now.. might change in the future... The problem: App has a bunch of clients that need to get a separate/unique list of files from a master server app. The files are created by the master server process, and reside on the filesystem behind the server process. (this is a client/server based app. client sends a request to the server.. the backend operation of the server fetches the required files, and returns them to the client app.) A key issue is that I don't want to run into potential race conditions, which would result in a given client never being served the files it's trying to fetch. Potential Soln: 1) Invoke a form of file locking, with each client processes waiting until it gets its lock. 2) Invoke some form of round-robin process, where the master process puts files in different dirs, so each client can have a better chance of getting a lock for the different dir.. Final Soln: (for now) I decided to cheat! I realized that since each client process is essentially unique, I can create a uniqueId (uuid) for each process. Remember, the client app is hitting the master server/file process via a webservice. So I have each client send it's uuid to the master server via the webprocess. this information is appended to a file, which gives me kind of a fifo approach for creating unique dirs for each client. the server (on the backend) then reads the fifo file, for the uuid. in getting the uuid for the 'client', a master cron process then reads the fifo file, and for each uuid in the file, creates a tmp dir for the uuid. the master cron process then populates this dir, with the required files for the given client. on the client side, the client loops through a wait loop, checking to see if anything is created/placed in its tmp 'uuid' dir.. if files are there, it fetches the files, and proceeds.. This approach ensures that a client would never run into a situation where it might never get files where files are available for processing. in the event there are no files, the client simply sleeps until there are files.. in the event a client requests files via the sending of the uuid, and the client dies before getting the files, but the master cron had already placed them in the uuid dir.. there will be a cleanup process to reabsorb those files back into the system... thanks to all who gave input/pointers!! thoughts/comments/etc... -Original Message- From: python-list-bounces+bedouglas=earthlink@python.org [mailto:python-list-bounces+bedouglas=earthlink@python.org]on Behalf Of Dennis Lee Bieber Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:41 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: Re: file locking... On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:00:54 -0800, bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: Except in my situation.. the client has no knowledge of the filenaming situation, and i might have 1000s of files... think of the FIFO, first in, first out.. so i'm loking for a fast solution that would allow me to create groups of say, 500 files, that get batched and processed by the client app... My silly thoughts... Main process creates temp/scratch directories for each subprocess; spawn each subprocess, passing the directory path to it; main process then just loops over the files moving them, one at a time, to one of the temp/scratch directories, probably in cyclic order to distribute the load; when main/input directory is empty, sleep then check again (or, if the OS supports it -- use some directory change notification) for new files. Each subprocess only sees its files in the applicable temp/scratch directory. -- WulfraedDennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wulfr...@bestiaria.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ (Bestiaria Support Staff: web-a...@bestiaria.com) HTTP://www.bestiaria.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
file locking...
Hi. Got a bit of a question/issue that I'm trying to resolve. I'm asking this of a few groups so bear with me. I'm considering a situation where I have multiple processes running, and each process is going to access a number of files in a dir. Each process accesses a unique group of files, and then writes the group of files to another dir. I can easily handle this by using a form of locking, where I have the processes lock/read a file and only access the group of files in the dir based on the open/free status of the lockfile. However, the issue with the approach is that it's somewhat synchronous. I'm looking for something that might be more asynchronous/parallel, in that I'd like to have multiple processes each access a unique group of files from the given dir as fast as possible. So.. Any thoughts/pointers/comments would be greatly appreciated. Any pointers to academic research, etc.. would be useful. thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
listing files with spaces, using wildcard
hey... here's one i can't see.. goat a bunch of files in different dirs.. the files might have spaces 1foo_ aa_bb_cc.dog 2foo_aa__cc.dog 3foo_aa_bb _ccc.dog 4foo_aa_bb_cc.dog 5foo_aa_bb_cc.dog 6foo_aa_bb_cc.dog i'm trying to figure out how i can do a complete list of all files with *foo*dog so i get the files with spaces and underlines... i thought simply doing somehting like ls '*foo_*.dog' and surrounding the filename with single quotes would work.. but it doesn't. thoughts/pointers/etc... thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
listing files with spaces, using wildcard
hey... here's one i can't see.. goat a bunch of files in different dirs.. the files might have spaces 1foo_ aa_bb_cc.dog 2foo_aa__cc.dog 3foo_aa_bb _ccc.dog 4foo_aa_bb_cc.dog 5foo_aa_bb_cc.dog 6foo_aa_bb_cc.dog i'm trying to figure out how i can do a complete list of all files with *foo*dog so i get the files with spaces and underlines... i thought simply doing somehting like ls '*foo_*.dog' and surrounding the filename with single quotes would work.. but it doesn't. thoughts/pointers/etc... thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Ran out of disk space during yum update
hey sam
since you've been here before.. any chance that you could post/provide your
scripts that you used to help solve the issue...
this would be a seriously great help to anyone who runs into this issue and
would be searching the net for help!!
thanks@
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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:51 PM
To: Community assistance; encouragement; and advice forusing Fedora.
Subject: Re: Ran out of disk space during yum update
Robert Moskowitz writes:
In the new install I did, I was not alert and did a complete yum update,
and my / partition ran out.
200 of 300+ packages were updated/installed, of course none cleaned.
Can I rescue this install by doing a yum clean all and then again do the
yum update for the remaining 100+ packages?
Nope. yum clean all purges internal yum metadata only. You've ran into a
known, long-time rpm design defect. If your rpm update operation fails,
you'll end up with all the updated packages installed, but none of the old
packages removed. I've bitched about this before, I maintain that this is a
design defect or a bug in rpm that should be fixed, but nobody cares.
Been there, brought back the trophy. The only way to fix this is to manually
assemble a list of packages that should've been removed, but haven't, and
remove them yourself. rpm -q -a --queryformat '%{NAME}\n' returns a list of
all packages. By sorting them, and with some shell scripting-fu, you'll end
up with a list of packages names that are installed more than once -- the
old and the new package. You'll have to prune the list -- some packages,
like rpm-gpgkey, and kernel, can have multiple versions legitimately
installed. If you're running x86_64, you may have both 32 and 64 bit
versions of each package legitimately installed -- you'll have to do
something else, then.
Then, you'll have to take that list, and for each package, obtain the
version/release of the old package, then feed the result to another script
that removes the old version of each package.
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RE: App to manage/track/spawn processes
thanks tim... but apache doesn't come cloes to what i need in terms of tracking that actual status of the data/processes as they die... but thanks!! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Tim Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:04 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: App to manage/track/spawn processes On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 06:33 -0800, bruce wrote: Of course I'd like to know if I'm already running a given child app, so I only have a child app with the same input args running once. I'd also like to be able to track when a child app is halted/stuck, so I can gracefully kill it, and restart it... Any thoughts on any kind of open source app that does this, or gets close... Sounds rather like how the Apache webserver works. Perhaps you might want to look into how it does what it does. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Printers
look online... to buy a used printer... i got a hp-2500 color printer with ~50% of the toner in the cartridges left... got it for ~$30(US) at an auction... you'd be surprised at what you might find!! i also saw the same printer at a later auction go for ~$100 you never know! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Steven Stern Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:22 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Printers -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/21/2009 04:19 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Michael Comperchio wrote: What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm hoping to never have to boot to the windoze side again. But printing and the inability to sync up with my Palm Lifedrive are the major holdups for that. I can probably live without the Livedrive...but I do need to print I'd recommend HP, because the CUPS drivers (HPLIP) are Free Software, written by HP themselves and included in Fedora (so they work out of the box). /!\ Please check on the HPLIP website http://hplip.sourceforge.net/ that the printer you're about to buy is supported and that it doesn't require the binary-only plugin. There are third-party Free Software drivers for most of the plugin-using printers, but there are patent issues (JBIG compression, mainly), which is why HP is not willing to support them in HPLIP without that binary-only plugin and which also means those drivers are not included in Fedora. (They can be found in RPM Fusion though, they're the foo2xxx drivers, where xxx is one of zjs, hp, oak etc.) One drawback though is that HP is not the cheapest option out there (especially if you count the ink/toner prices - for example, HP inkjets have the print heads on the cartridge, which means they're less susceptible to defects, but which also means the cartridges are very expensive; and of course the cartridge/toner prices also subsidize the printer to some extent, something to watch for all printers, it's a common pricing tactic of printer manufacturers, not just something HP does), // snip // The first thing to do on installing an inkjet printer is to set the default printing mode to draft. It makes the printer much faster and it uses a lot less ink. For 99% of the printing I do, draft quality printing is acceptable. - -- Steve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl8g4kACgkQeERILVgMyvBg0wCfSh47zO7UzWMR406SQlM9+x79 j28An2jQFSrpMItID3ZY7YhkGrI5t+sw =tblB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install
hell... i'd even like an option to somehow be logged in as root, and then be able to switch to a user to run the PackageMGR app... if you can accomplish this, i haven't figured out how!! in other words, how to be at the same box, and login as two separate gui users? with the same keyboard/monitor! not coming into the box from a separate box.. -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of R. G. Newbury Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:22 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install No nuanced and masterfully persuasive oratory can disguise the fact that someone has made *and enforced* a decision that *they know better than the user* how THINGS MUST BE DONE purely because the doing, is considered to be 'not best practice'. In this particular case, the 'best practice' enforcement approaches religious fervour in its application. In the particular instance which started this thread, PolicyKit nags about being root, and then *refuses* to allow the installation of an rpm! It does not deny the right to download and install the rpm in a consoleIt just denies the user the advantages of using PackageManager to resolve dependenices directly. And *exactly* what nuanced extra is added to the equation, by forcing the administrator to log out of root, to log in as a user, to do the same thing? Especially in a circumstance where the install is actually desired to be general and not user-local? This position is idiocy. I don't mind a nag. I DO mind unknown and unaccountable people attempting to enforce their quasi-religious beliefs on me (by quasi-religious, I mean the attitude which equates doing anything while root is akin to giving booze and car-keys to seventeen year old boys: instantly and always catastrophically dangerous.) I know using root can increase the probability of disaster. But I want to be able to decide what the limits of my risk tolerance are, not have someone else do it. That argument, the libertarian argumnent is one of the underlying bases of the free software movement. Let's have it recognized and venerated in the code! Geoff My memory is that the designer of PackageManager indicated on the list that running PackageManager as root has security problems that running it as a user and entering the root password does not have. I believed him. Your objection is that it makes you log as a user rather than as root. I believe in the theory that freedom derives from the words free doom indicating that everyone has a right to commit suicide in his (or her) own way. I strongly support your committing suicide in any way you desire. Aaron Konstam I would like to know why the developer of PackageManager makes a distinction between a root and a user login? Cut out extraneous code. Make any user enter the root password. Kam Leo That works for me. I don't object to entering my root password to do something. I do object to being told that in effect I don't own my own box and I therefore cannot do something as root. But I do own the box. And if I break it, I will have to fix it. Someone previously noted that I should fix the code. I would do that, if there were any reasonable prospect that my patch would be applied to the code base. And since there is no such reasonable prospect, I am not going to waste my time doing that. Geoff -- Please let me know if anything I say offends you. I may wish to offend you again in the future. Tux says: Be regular. Eat cron flakes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: TurboTax.com (Here we go again...)
hey chris... i recently (last few days) recall seeing something in the news that said the IRS was pretty much allowing everyone to do free electronic filing. if this is the case, you might not need turbo-tax at all. (unless you still need a tax app to do the actual calculations for the various forms) if you check it out, let us know!! thanks -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Christopher A. Williams Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:37 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: TurboTax.com (Here we go again...) Well - It seems that time of year has come once again... And once again, Intuit is doing browser checks on their TurboTax site and refusing to run any browser if the OS is Linux. Firefox on Windows or Mac is fine, but not Linux. I got around this before by finding a UA Switcher config that fooled it. Anyone know where I can find one that has FF 3.0 on Windows as an option? I did my part by sending Intuit a strongly, but professionally worded complaint about this. It included (truthfully) how I have used their product for years and that I am now considering using a competitor's product because, in today's Web 2.0 world, this kind of browser checking stuff is completely unacceptable. Anyone care to do the same? Cheers, Chris -- Behind every double standard lies a single hidden agenda. --G. K. Chesterton -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux
i'm willing to bet that that's a holdover from the yahoo/sbc relationship... prior to att and sbc merging.. -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Frank Cox Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:22 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:19:38 -0600 Dave Ihnat wrote: go to the ATT website, create your Yahoo account *blink* ATT really requires yahoo? For a DSL account setup? That's got to be the weirdest thing I've read this week. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux
the user/passwd for the dsl modem.. normally (in my case) has come from att... -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Mikkel L. Ellertson Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:41 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux gerrynix wrote: Log into your router (see the docs :) and fill in the ppoe info in the appropriate interface page of the router. In many cases, it's the router that handles the auth. The Windows software that comes with the kit, simply does that (as above) for you. Where do you get the user name/password? When I did my setup, the Windows program asked for a bunch of information, and then gave me the user name/password for the PPPoE connection. I know a bit about accessing the router or modem. In my case, then only provided a one port modem, and I added my own wireless router. I have the option of doing the PPPoE on the modem, on the router, or on the computer. Doing it on the modem or router are the most practical ways to do it. (But I can think of some applications where you would want to do it on the computer.) I have the modem set up to do it at home. I have several user names/password combinations that will work for the PPPoE now, though only one does not block outgoing port 25 connections. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux
you can call into att/sbc.. get tech support... and you can get the user/passwd from them.. tell them you want 2nd level tech support... -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Mikkel L. Ellertson Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:02 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux g wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: You mean they finely fixed that? I know around here, they didn't send you the user name/password you needed to connect. when i set up in both westell and 2wire, there are entries for entering both user name and password. i do not recall where in westell, but for 2wire, it is under 'broadband link advanced settings'. after entering setup password, a page titled 'settings' has entry. The problem was not entering setup - it was that they did not supply the account user name/password with the home installation kit. The Windows program was what gave you that information. It is kind of hard to set up PPPoE without that information. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux
exactly... and if you don't have this user/passwd... calling tech support can generate it for you! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of gerrynix Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:15 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: From: Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com Subject: Re: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:52 PM bruce wrote: the user/passwd for the dsl modem.. normally (in my case) has come from att... In my case, with SBC, I had to run the Windows program to get them. It may depend on what the local phone company was before it was gobbled up by ATT. Mikkel -- Hmm. . . When one purchases ATT DSL, it it typically linked to an email account... i.e bu...@sbcglobal.net (or other). That email account and password becomes the PPoE auth creds. THAT IS... I've seen it work exactly that way many times... I suppose there may be other methods I am unaware of -- Nix A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install
hi... just saw this thread. so, is there a way/solution to allow a root user to use the gui/gnome/package update app and if there is, how? thanks -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Kam Leo Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 10:17 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Kam Leo kam@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:03 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote: Clicking on the link gave the usual 'what do you want to do' message. Clicking install raised a warning about installing as root. I clicked continueand got a message that I 'didn't have permission to continue' (or words to that effect) and my system, having assumed god-like powers refused to let me install the file! Logging in as root is like walking around with a loaded shotgun in your belt with no safety latch. You can't install packages as the root user as it's simply not secure. Just use a normal user login. WTF??? Does anyone know where this little bit of insanity is stored and how to remove it? It's called PackageKit, and it's not insane. If you're running gtk+ as root, you're already insecure. Richard. Regardless of the security rant, the default settings for yum should have enabled the Everything repository. Just use yum to install the package. As a bonus yum will also add any dependencies you might have missed. Add/Remove Software from the GUI should also be able to do the same. Just another thought, the security rant is pointless. A user can just as easily copy the file's URL, open a terminal, and install the package using rpm. What's the difference whether the package got installed by root or via su? If the package has malicious content you're hosed. Trust begins with whomever is given root/superuser privileges and the site hosting the packages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
App to manage/track/spawn processes
Hi. Not really a Fedora question, but maybe someone has thoughts on how to implement this. I've got a situation where I'm looking to have a process where I spawn off a number of external apps. I'd like an app to manage the entire process of creating/tracking the child apps. So basically, I'd like to be able to fire off 10 copies of the child app, track the health/status of the child copies while they're running, abd be able to continually fire off additional copies of the child app when the number of running child apps gets below a given threshold. Of course I'd like to know if I'm already running a given child app, so I only have a child app with the same input args running once. I'd also like to be able to track when a child app is halted/stuck, so I can gracefully kill it, and restart it... Any thoughts on any kind of open source app that does this, or gets close... I started to architect a quick solution to this when I couldn't find anything on the 'net, but figured I'f ping here as well. Comments/Thoughts are good. thanks!! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Asset Management
hi,. take this with a grain of salt. i would suggest that you look at one of the open source apps, and talk with the dev team if possible, or submit your initial request to their email lists if they have one. (assuming you haven't done this yet!!) i'm willing to bet that pieces of what you want, already exist, but that you're going to have to invest some programming to get it just right for your needs... good luck on this one! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Ashley M. Kirchner Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:25 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Asset Management I know there are plenty of asset management software out there. Everything I've seen so far is for hardware and software, network, manufacturer, etc., etc. I'm looking for something a little bit broader. I want one location for all our marketing and web assets. Stock photos, pictures of products, pictures of projects, templates that we send to clients, PDFs of data sheets and info pages, catalogs of our vendors, ads we have run in magazines and newspapers, anything that has anything to do with our marketing and online presents. I want it all in one place, inventoried and cataloged. And of course, the hardware, software, network and all that jazz too. I know that's a tall order, but even if it's something that has different modules to be added, that's great. And if it's open source, even better! Does anyone have any suggestions? I don't want to have to reinvent the wheel if it already exists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora10 Wireless configuration
there you go again rick... poking those poor cardss with your unauthorized 'naughty' bits but on a serious tip to the user. get a cheap/low cost usb linksys wifi dongle. not sure of the exact model number, but the one i have cost ~$30/40. plugged it in to a fc8/9 system, and it was listed in the wireless list. never looked back. no madwifi... no ndiswrapper... no windows drivers... it simply worked/works... i always keep a spare now! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Fedora10 Wireless configuration Tom Smith wrote: Hello, I just installed Fedora 10 on my computer and I am attempting to set up a D-Link DWL-G520+ network card. When I use the Network Configuration tool and select Add then try to find the network card from the list under Select Ethernet Adapter I don't see my card or any wireless cards from D-Link. What should I choose? Your card uses one of the Texas Instrument chipsets (a lot of D-Link's cards do), specifically the ACX111 chip and TI doesn't have an open source driver for it. You're probably stuck using ndiswrapper and the Windows driver (ugly, but it works). TI has shown a distrust of the open source arena with most of their chips. I know that a number of their chipsets can be made to transmit and receive on frequencies and at power levels not allowed for wireless networking by the US Federal Communications Commission by hacking the firmware or poking various bits in the registers of the card. Pity. They're generally nice units. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Doctor! My brain hurts! It will have to come out! - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Comcast permanent block on port 25
what the heck are you talking about.. individual freedoms check your TC from your ISP. I'm willing to bet it's clearly spelled out.. maybe deep in the docs what you can/can't do regards the network. i've frequently run services ssh/vpn/http/smtp/etc... over the network, knowing full well that i might be going against their service docs... i've also known that i could get the biz level system to be able to legally run these services. sometimes, i haven't had the cash, others not the time to setup the biz accounts... but don't confuse your running a service with somekind of individual freedom thing... gawd!!! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Phil Meyer Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:17 AM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25 Comcast, in their infinite wisdom, has begun to block all inbound port 25 connections at my location. I collect several mailing lists at my home domain which I have maintained for many years. Plus, it has always been nice to have an email box that I could run my own spam filters on. Because MicroSoft has created such a huge mess with spambots and the like, I have lost another privilege that not long ago was assumed, and now falls into a business only category. I do not blame the consumers who are duped into buying computers with a pre-installed OS. It is so VERY annoying that step by step, we lose individual freedoms because of corporate greed and incompetence. Its somewhat like being in jail for something you did not do. Or so it seems to me. Sorry for the rant. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Comcast permanent block on port 25
bruno... in the us (in most areas) the local gov't institution holds great sway over who gets the ISP rights.. you're mote than welcome to organize, to be able to represent your views. it's called democracy... but, given that you may not have multiple competitors for the ISP... the ISP provider can still do pretty much whatever they choose as long as it's legal. keep in mind, 20 years ago.. there wasn't an ISP and things still worked pretty well!! and you always have the option of physically moving to another state!!! but stating that 'individual freedoms' are stepped on is completely stupid. me getting stopped when i was a kid because i was black and accused of theft simply because of my skin.. that's a situation where 'freedoms/rights' come into play.. not the ISP issues you have regarding port issue... peace -Original Message- From: Bruno Wolff III [mailto:br...@wolff.to] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 12:57 PM To: bruce Cc: p...@themeyerfarm.com; 'Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.' Subject: Re: Comcast permanent block on port 25 On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:41:03 -0800, bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net wrote: check your Terms/Conditions of your ISP. you guys who think that anything that you want to do, and your ISP won't let you is somehow violating your rights are laughable. If there was competition this would be true. But when you can't get real internet access in an area for a reasonable price (and 3x the going rate isn't reasonable), then it is true. your ISP is running a biz, with rules. I can go in a store and demand to buy a turkey for the price I want. I can't go tell the Best Buy, to give me the TV, for the price I want. you can't force the ISP to give you the service you want, with the bells/whistles you want, for the price you want. But in those cases there is competition that keeps the prices reasonable. you're more than welcome to attempt to raise the funds to start your own ISP... And do what. The ILECs have been given a position that allows them to keep competition out. Take a look what happened in Canada. Losing customers to your competition because they aren't blocking things? Why just start blocking traffic on the lines you are reselling so that your competitors can only provbide the same crappy service you want to provide. your 'rights' aren't being stepped on because your ISP won't allow you to do what you want. That view only makes sense when there are lots of ISPs with different rules and rates. It doesn't apply where there is a duopoly that provides the same crappy service to everyone and competitors need not apply. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Accidently Removed Add/Remove Programs
On Dec 12, 2008, at 1:17 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: I personally look forward to the day when the open source software ecosystem toolset achieves self-awareness and starts writing and implementing its own release policies, removing the need for any human interaction in the process at all. That will be a glorious 3.4 milliseconds before the newly aware computer overmind concludes that humans should be purged. As our world burns, open source advocates like myself will be able to take solace in the knowledge that the dominant sentient species on the planet from that day forward will have open source ideals as a core belief. We will have won the debate. I, for one, welcome our new silicon overlords! Sorry, couldn't resist... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Unable to boot with LVM mount on USB drive (Fedora 10)
On Dec 11, 2008, at 7:32 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Bruce Thompson wrote: Hi all, I haven't seen this reported anywhere else and it's kind of driving me nuts. I've got an LVM volume group that extends across two internal drives and one external USB drive. Prior to Fedora 10, the volume group initializes fine during boot and the filesystems listed in /etc/fstab mount fine. As of Fedora 10, the initialization of the volume group fails apparently because the USB drive is not yet registered when LVM attempts to bring up the volume group. I have a workaround, namely the following in rc.local: vgchange -ay Backups mount -o defaults,noatime /dev/Backups/Backup /backup mount -o defaults,noatime /dev/Backups/Staging /staging Obviously this is non-optimal since it bypasses the automatic fsck step. I am not sure, but I suspect that you can fix this by rebuilding your initrd, including the usb_storage module this time. Mikkel Just got home to try it out, that did the trick nicely. BTW for those that may have influence, would it be unreasonable to expect the default initrd to include usb-storage? Thanks much! Bruce. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Unable to boot with LVM mount on USB drive (Fedora 10)
On Dec 11, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Bruce Thompson wrote: Just got home to try it out, that did the trick nicely. BTW for those that may have influence, would it be unreasonable to expect the default initrd to include usb-storage? The current approach is to build initramfs images that are tailored to a specific system - only the modules actually required to get the root file system going are included by default. You can override that using the --with option to mkinitrd. I think you can also set this up persistently by adding a MODULES= entry to /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd. Ah! That may be what I need, I'm thinking along the lines of needing to remember to re-do mkinitrd every time a new kernel comes out... / etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd should render that moot! Cheers! Bruce. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Unable to boot with LVM mount on USB drive (Fedora 10)
Hi all, I haven't seen this reported anywhere else and it's kind of driving me nuts. I've got an LVM volume group that extends across two internal drives and one external USB drive. Prior to Fedora 10, the volume group initializes fine during boot and the filesystems listed in /etc/fstab mount fine. As of Fedora 10, the initialization of the volume group fails apparently because the USB drive is not yet registered when LVM attempts to bring up the volume group. I have a workaround, namely the following in rc.local: vgchange -ay Backups mount -o defaults,noatime /dev/Backups/Backup /backup mount -o defaults,noatime /dev/Backups/Staging /staging Obviously this is non-optimal since it bypasses the automatic fsck step. Heres the relevant bit from /var/log/boot.log: Could not detect stabilization, waiting 10 seconds. Welcome to ^[[0;34mFedora^[[0;39m Press 'I' to enter interactive startup. Starting udev: ^[%G^[[60G[^[[0;32m OK ^[[0;39m]^M Setting hostname kobol: ^[[60G[^[[0;32m OK ^[[0;39m]^M Setting up Logical Volume Management: 7 logical volume(s) in volume group FileSystem \ now active Couldn't find device with uuid '2T8dIC-ekep-2gVU-t2Ij-LAVV-Oar3- M3D7z4'. Couldn't find all physical volumes for volume group Backups. Couldn't find device with uuid '2T8dIC-ekep-2gVU-t2Ij-LAVV-Oar3- M3D7z4'. Couldn't find all physical volumes for volume group Backups. Couldn't find device with uuid '2T8dIC-ekep-2gVU-t2Ij-LAVV-Oar3- M3D7z4'. Couldn't find all physical volumes for volume group Backups. Couldn't find device with uuid '2T8dIC-ekep-2gVU-t2Ij-LAVV-Oar3- M3D7z4'. Couldn't find all physical volumes for volume group Backups. Volume group Backups not found ^[[60G[^[[0;31mFAILED^[[0;39m]^M Checking filesystems /1: clean, 163835/2624496 files, 1250058/10486428 blocks /dev/mapper/FileSystem-Home: clean, 1136972/29360128 files, 40466944/58720256 blocks /dev/mapper/FileSystem-Var: clean, 77521/1048576 files, 508388/4194304 blocks /dev/mapper/FileSystem-Archive: clean, 58740/4194304 files, 2596997/8388608 blocks /dev/mapper/FileSystem-Opt: clean, 3034/2097152 files, 1012827/4194304 blocks /dev/mapper/FileSystem-Audiobooks: clean, 1864/4194304 files, 4486483/8388608 blocks /dev/mapper/FileSystem-Music: clean, 23414/10485760 files, 15614400/20971520 blocks (chec\ k after next mount) /dev/mapper/FileSystem-Video: clean, 3521/85983232 files, 158186373/171966464 blocks In /var/log/messages I see that the external drive (sde) is attached immediately prior to filesystems being mounted but I can't tell from that whether LVM initialization occurs before or after USB Mass Storage comes up. Has anyone else encountered this? Is there a known workaround? I did see the thread on fedoraforum regarding SCSI boot problems but it appears to me that these are not the same issue. Thanks much! Bruce. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: root in FC 10
robert... too early for this... funny thing.. i started this thread! and i'll post as i choose!! have a good day... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Moskowitz Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:25 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: root in FC 10 bruce wrote: hey robert. Bruce, avoid top posting... do a search, look for pam/gdm/root/user... there's a config file that can be modified to allow for initial root login initially at the start.. Already done that. Just chirping in again about why someone relatively sane would want to log in as root... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Moskowitz Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:35 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: root in FC 10 Dave Cross wrote: 2008/12/5 Mike Dwiggins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I upgraded a throw away test system from FC 8 to FC 10. When it finished, I tried logging in as root user and could not. Logging in as a normal user I went to a text session and the su command worked with the old root password. Did I do something wrong or is this something new to 10? Disabling root login is a common security practice. Sounds like it's been disabled by default in F10. That's got to be a good thing. As someone else has said, you can enable it again by fiddling with the pam files, but please consider whether you really want to do that. Why not log as a normal user and then use su (or, better, sudo) on the rare occasions when you need root access? On my 'work' notebook and most of my servers, I log in as me and 'su' when I need to do something 'rooty'. But on this system where I am trying to get F10 working? Yah, believe it that I want to be root; it gets too frustrating too fast otherwise. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while
hi globe... you might want to try and download/install the radeonhd driver, and replace the radeon in the conf file. i have f9, and had issues with f9 freezing on my toshiba laptop. downloading the radeonhd driver, and replacing the raden driver in the xorg file seems to have solved the issue. you can download the radeonhd driver using yum (not sure of the actual filename but check google..) in the xorg.conf file, replace Driver radeon with Driver radeonhd see what happens!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Globe Trotter Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:00 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while --- On Thu, 12/4/08, bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.' fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 10:51 PM hey globe.. what's the driver that you're using in the xorg.conf? Here is the xorg.conf: # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver radeon EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Many thanks, T -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while
hey globe.. what's the driver that you're using in the xorg.conf? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Globe Trotter Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 5:33 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Fedora 10 freezes after a while Hi, For the fourth day running, my Fedora 10 upgraded (from F9) installation on my trusty Dell Dimension 650 with ATI Technologies Radeon R300 NG (FireGL X1) graphics card has frozen. Frustratingly, this happens after I come home from work (where this machine is). I thought this may be due to the kernel modesetting so I set nomodeset at the end of the line when I booted. (Even though I wondered about the problem given that I do not have the compiz installed. I have looked at /var/log/messages, /var/log/secure, no luck. Strangely enough by some quirk, I have been away for long periods during the day, but not had a problem so it is hard to track down. Can anyone please help? How do I track this down? Talking of which, is it possible to downgrade to Fedora 9, using yum, etc? I did not have this problem last week at least: I upgraded on Monday. Many thanks and best wishes, Trotter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: root login
hell... if nm works as it should with f10.. that might be a reason to upgrade itself!!! took a laptop on a trip. had a layover in las vegad, figured, what the heck. never could access one of the public wifi networks with nm!! (but it could have been user error!!) thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Molloy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:14 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: root login On Tuesday 02 December 2008 13:38:18 Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 13:08 +, Tony Molloy wrote: If you had installed using the askmethod method you could have set the static address at install time. Have things changed, because all that did, in the past, was the configuration of the network for the installation (if the network is needed *during* the installation). Configuration of the network on the installed system, was separate. Well I've been using it for the past few days to install Fedora-10 on laptops and desktops with static IP addresses and it works. It asks for the IP information during the install and then NetworkManager sets up the connection data and it's permanent. Did I really say that, NetworkManager actually works ;-) Must say a big thank you to all the NetworkManager folks for ironing out the bugs. It's actually a useful bit of software now and I can take my laptops from work to home and it recognises the different networks with the minimun of fuss, Well done. Regards, Tony -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora Hangs on Laptop
tell me. in your xorg.conf.. what's the video driver you're using?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rupesh P Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:47 AM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Fedora Hangs on Laptop I'm having a similar problem with Fedora 10 on Dell Latitude D630. Actually, Fedora 10 has been working great for the past two days. But today after I installed the broadcom-wl package for wireless, whenever I start the wifi machine just hangs / freezes completely. The CapsLock and ScrollLock buttons keep flashing on and off and the only way out is to turn the system off and restart. Not sure why this is happening, apart from this hiccup fedora 10 seems to be great. can somebody help me out? Thanks, Rupesh Dave Cross wrote: I'm running Fedora 9 on a Dell XPS M1330 laptop. I'm using one of the earliest F9 kernel (2.6.25-14.fc9.i686.PAE) because I've been unable to get a wireless connection with any later kernel that I've tried. But I'm having huge problems with this kernel too. At random times the machine just freezes completely. The capslock and num-lock buttons flash on and off but the only way out of it seems to be to turn the system off and restart. Sometimes it can be an hour or so before the problems occurs, but more often it's a few minutes. This obviously makes the system pretty much unusable. I can use the system for as long as Iike when I boot it into Vista. Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Or do you have any suggestions on how I can help to investigate the problem? Thanks, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fedora-Hangs-on-Laptop-tp1471624p1598175.html Sent from the fedora mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
locking down/securing Fedora/Redhat/centos servers
Hi... Getting to a situation where a couple of my servers are going to have to be setup to face the external net.. Need to find a couple of really good resources, or to identify a couple of good people I can exchange emails with to set this process up. Given the nature of the bot apps, and everything else that's happening, this can't be screwed up... So, if you're in the security area regarding linux, let's talk! Thanks -bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Network install over wireless
not sure that this is the case... but i could be wrong/misinformed. from my experience, when you do a fedora install, the installer gives you the option of doing an http/nfs/etc... install. however, if you choose a network install (nfs/http) you're asked to provide your ipaddress, or the dhcp server. i've never seen anything that allows you to select wire/wireless 'net connections.. it appears to assume that you're using a wired connection.. anyone care to comment, provide pointers to installing over a wireless nic! thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Linuxguy123 Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:33 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Network install over wireless On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 10:10 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I don't seem to remember hearing about any distro being able to install over wireless. It would be quite a hoot. As long as the machine has a network connection, it doesn't care if its wireless or not. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: F9 DOS attack
hi dave... just saw this thread. are you running a static ip on your external internet connection. if you aren't, you could simply force the cable modem to reset to another ip address.. you might have to work with comcast tech support to accomplish this. (get a 2nd/3rd level guy who actually knows/wants to help you out) if you've already done this, has it managed to slow the offender down? do you have a router connected to the cable modem? does it log the ip addresses of the offending client? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Feustel Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 3:54 AM To: Alan Cox Cc: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: F9 DOS attack On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:01:08PM +, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:58:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, my cable modem once again getting a LOT of unsolicited traffic from the internet - so much so that nothing I attempt to send gets out. My poor ole Dell doesn't even have enough oomph to process keyboard commands. Does this qualify as a DOS attack? Is there any way to get around this? Assuming you have firewalling configured to drop all the crud then no - contact your ISP and law enforcement as appropriate. I spoke with a Comcast technician yesterday. He said there was nothing Comcast could do and that the problem was that the 'bomber' was able to get my ip address by scanning my system. That seems inconsistent to me. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: root login
umm... starting in level 5 doesn't prevent root from running. if you're running f10, you're going to have to edit the gdm pam file. (don't have the article at my fingers right now...) appparently f10, has modified the default behavior to restrict you from logging in as the root user. if you're using f9, get back to us... peace -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of g Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:10 AM To: fedora-list Subject: Re: root login -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Price wrote: how do I enable root login i normally do not reply to 'text/html' post, but this time i am making and exception. [see guidelines link at bottom line of post] i will guess that you are booting run 'level 5', so open a terminal, su to root. change to /etc directory and edit inittab and change; 'id:5:initdefault:' to 'id:3:initdefault:' reboot and log in as root. note: reply again in 'text/html' and i will not reply. peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJLWbV+C4Bj9Rkw/wRApsrAJ9l3WQEooJ1TtoSOOdWfjvpWOOuCQCfTbpG cV0s85my5MSSk6zjML/q+zU= =xvJG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: root login
nick... do this... su - root password: whatever it is edit /etc/pam.d vi /etc/pam.d (or use your favorite editor) look for a line that has: user != root (or something like that) comment out the line, or delete it... save the file, log out, log back in, end you should be able to access as root... you don't need to modify the init file... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nick Price Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:35 AM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: root login Hi all Just downloaded F10 and when I try to login as root i get unable to authenticate user so i logged in as myself and then su but each time I want to change system settings it keeps asking me for the root password Ive only had a few hours and its already driving me crazy with this continual requests for the root password. how do I enable root login Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. Sign up today. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: F9 DOS attack
hey rick... are you the same rick, who used to work with a company in san mateo.. that used to deal with akamai... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:18 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: F9 DOS attack Dave Feustel wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:30:09AM -0800, bruce wrote: hi dave... just saw this thread. are you running a static ip on your external internet connection. if you aren't, you could simply force the cable modem to reset to another ip address.. I tried reseting the cable modem but I'm not sure it changes my ip address. you might have to work with comcast tech support to accomplish this. (get a 2nd/3rd level guy who actually knows/wants to help you out) I'm going to try to talk with them about this tomorrow. if you've already done this, has it managed to slow the offender down? No. But the attack had ceased when I got up this morning. do you have a router connected to the cable modem? does it log the ip addresses of the offending client? I use pf with a block all incoming rule. I don't see any traffic with pftop, but I saw a lot of incoming packets by observing the leds on my cable modem. It's pretty clear to me that both F9 and Suse11 are vulnerable to attack from the internet. I'm starting to get very interested in linux security and preventing dos attacks. ANYTHING connected to the internet is vulnerable to attack, be it SYN floods, brute force SSH attempts, any number of others. Wait till you get a DC++ attack! The only way to block that sucker is to do a deep packet inspection of the payload and drop the connections or find the hub that has you listed and kill it somehow. It's totally irrelevant what OS you run, it's an attack against the interface. Different OSes handle it differently. It's best to have a hardware firewall out front, but then internal software firewalls like iptables are your second level of defense. Next is making sure only the network listeners you NEED are enabled. I manage a network that seems to have a big, red target painted on it. I deal with this all the time. Thank goodness for our Cisco, Foundry and Radware gear out front! They block most of it, the rest we deal with via iptables and we monitor EVERYTHING (my cell phone has almost melted on occasion from the SMS text alerts when a DOS is attempted). As to your problem, Comcast's first level techs (and I'm being generous using that term) are notoriously crappy as far as solving problems. They're not much more than telemarketers and work off a script. Ask them something off script and they're at sea. Can't say Time Warner is much better. One problem I had with them: Me: I'm not getting a DHCP address from you, your DHCP servers are down. Them: Which OS? Me: Linux. Them: Oh, we don't support Linux. Me: DHCP is DHCP you twit. The OS has nothing to do with it! Let me talk to a level 3 tech. (this went on for about five minutes, I threatened dire vengeance, then I got a level 3 guy [skipped level 2, they're idiots, too]) Level3Guy: What's the problem? Me: You're not giving out DHCP addresses. Your servers are down. L3G: I don't think so. Me: Dude, I'm watching a tcpdump of it. I'm sending requests and you're not answering. No denials, no responses, nada. L3G: Let me check. (long pause) L3G: Yeah, six of them crashed. Me: You don't monitor that sort of thing? L3G: Uh, guess not. Me: ARRGHHH! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - If the enemy's in range...so are you!- -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: root login
great... not sure why some kept telling you to deal with the init file... moral of story: be careful when taking advice of people you don't know!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nick Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:44 PM To: 'Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.' Subject: RE: root login Hi All Many thanks got it fixed now by editing the gdm file Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of g Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 21:14 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: root login -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick wrote: Tried that when I go to save it I get a error message that I don’t have the permissions necessary to save the file. If I do a whoami I am root Where do I go from here then there may be some other problems. at boot screen, press tab and 'e' to edit. cursor down to line starting with 'kernel' press e to edit, add to end of line '1'. press enter, then b to boot. you will start in level 1 maintenance mode. 'cd /etc', 'cp inittab inittab.bak', 'vi inittab', cursor down to line with 'id:5:initdefault:'. cursor to '5' press r, press '3', enter in sequence, ':qw'. then enter 'reboot'. this should bring you up in 'command line' mode. enter 'root' at login prompt, enter root password. if refused, you may be using wrong password. changing password is another 'level 1' operation, which can be gone thru it above does not work. peace out. tc,hago. g in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJLa4b+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAu0oAJoDhpLuXM1kmayFL5uFDy9Za6fB/gCfUvaT gdpRDPn6dkitSlFCt+YhGds= =uye4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: root login
g not sure who you are, nor am i sure i understand your remarks. if your feelings are hurt, don't take it personally. i've seen people give seriously good advice. i've seen people give advice that would screw the hell out of the system of the person who was looking for help. the fact, your approach wasn't the issue the guy was dealing with. would it have harmed his system, no. was it the issue, again, no. unless you know/trust the person giveing the advice, or unless you see it from a number of different people, i would argue that you should take anything with a huge assed grain of salt! relax, have some turkey! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of g Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:40 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: root login -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 bruce wrote: not sure why some kept telling you to deal with the init file... good. if you do not know then those of us who do will continue to keep it a secret. moral of story: be careful when taking advice of people you don't know!!! you can keep your reason for being snide a secret too. peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJLcIg+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAln+AKCcHhHXHN5JYzzZHIpY4vR0O57TDQCgmd3p QWEOQpm8Bv6rAzedmqM1I7M= =wUQ/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
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RE: F9 DOS attack
hey rick... are you the same rick, who used to work with a company in san mateo.. that used to deal with akamai... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:18 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: F9 DOS attack Dave Feustel wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:30:09AM -0800, bruce wrote: hi dave... just saw this thread. are you running a static ip on your external internet connection. if you aren't, you could simply force the cable modem to reset to another ip address.. I tried reseting the cable modem but I'm not sure it changes my ip address. you might have to work with comcast tech support to accomplish this. (get a 2nd/3rd level guy who actually knows/wants to help you out) I'm going to try to talk with them about this tomorrow. if you've already done this, has it managed to slow the offender down? No. But the attack had ceased when I got up this morning. do you have a router connected to the cable modem? does it log the ip addresses of the offending client? I use pf with a block all incoming rule. I don't see any traffic with pftop, but I saw a lot of incoming packets by observing the leds on my cable modem. It's pretty clear to me that both F9 and Suse11 are vulnerable to attack from the internet. I'm starting to get very interested in linux security and preventing dos attacks. ANYTHING connected to the internet is vulnerable to attack, be it SYN floods, brute force SSH attempts, any number of others. Wait till you get a DC++ attack! The only way to block that sucker is to do a deep packet inspection of the payload and drop the connections or find the hub that has you listed and kill it somehow. It's totally irrelevant what OS you run, it's an attack against the interface. Different OSes handle it differently. It's best to have a hardware firewall out front, but then internal software firewalls like iptables are your second level of defense. Next is making sure only the network listeners you NEED are enabled. I manage a network that seems to have a big, red target painted on it. I deal with this all the time. Thank goodness for our Cisco, Foundry and Radware gear out front! They block most of it, the rest we deal with via iptables and we monitor EVERYTHING (my cell phone has almost melted on occasion from the SMS text alerts when a DOS is attempted). As to your problem, Comcast's first level techs (and I'm being generous using that term) are notoriously crappy as far as solving problems. They're not much more than telemarketers and work off a script. Ask them something off script and they're at sea. Can't say Time Warner is much better. One problem I had with them: Me: I'm not getting a DHCP address from you, your DHCP servers are down. Them: Which OS? Me: Linux. Them: Oh, we don't support Linux. Me: DHCP is DHCP you twit. The OS has nothing to do with it! Let me talk to a level 3 tech. (this went on for about five minutes, I threatened dire vengeance, then I got a level 3 guy [skipped level 2, they're idiots, too]) Level3Guy: What's the problem? Me: You're not giving out DHCP addresses. Your servers are down. L3G: I don't think so. Me: Dude, I'm watching a tcpdump of it. I'm sending requests and you're not answering. No denials, no responses, nada. L3G: Let me check. (long pause) L3G: Yeah, six of them crashed. Me: You don't monitor that sort of thing? L3G: Uh, guess not. Me: ARRGHHH! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - If the enemy's in range...so are you!- -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: F9 DOS attack
yes.. vitalstream!! that was it, with internap... hey.. is the email address at the bottom valid for you? -bruce -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:34 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: F9 DOS attack bruce wrote: hey rick... are you the same rick, who used to work with a company in san mateo.. that used to deal with akamai... A couple of friends and I founded SiteStream in '99. In '01 we merged with another company and renamed the new beast VitalStream, which was an Akamai (and SpeedEra) competitor. We were based in Irvine in SoCal (San Mateo is in NoCal). VitalStream was acquired by Internap in February of '06 and they've made a sad hash of what was a great company. I left there in April of '08 as I couldn't stand to watch my baby abused the way it was any longer. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - I haven't lost my mind. It's backed up on tape somewhere, but - - probably not recoverable.- -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gnome - f10 - root login
hi... haven't yet installed f20, but i've seen a few articles/postings that imply that you can no longer log in to the gnome desktop as root. is this correct? is there a way around this behavior? as a user, there are times when i want to login as root, is gnome now going in the direction of imposing a behavior on me. thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: networking in fedora 9
hi jack... regarding the mysql/httpd apps on the local box. when you do a ps -aux do you see the processes listed? when you set up mysql, does it have a passwd/host set up, or did you use the default settingw which are wide open for the setup? regarding the http/apache. on the local box, are you able to fire up firefox/etc.. and see the default webpage? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Monflower Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:30 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: networking in fedora 9 hello, i am stumbling upon something very frustrating with fedora 9. i installed several servers such as httpd. httpd starts together with fedora, and i can access them locally, by doing telnet localhost 8080 and telnet 10.0.0.4 8080 where 10.0.0.4 is the local LAN i have. however, whenever i try to do that from another computer in the LAN (say 10.0.0.2), i do not get anything. tcpdump -n port 8080 on the linux machine shows that the fedora box does get the packets when telnetting from 10.0.0.2, but it never sends packets back, so the connect just times out in 10.0.0.2. i disabled selinux, it is not even in permissive mode, but completely disabled. for ssh, this does not happen. meaning, i can send and receive freely packets to/from port 22 on the fedora box, and can ssh to the fedora box from anywhere in the LAN. any ideas what could be the reason? I looked around, found a few hints (for example, checking using tcpdump), but i just cannot isolate the problem. it also happens, by the way, with mysqld server - locally it works, but in the whole LAN it doesn't. thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
lawd buda has spake! or, on the other hand. people like me will still help, and we don't get wrapped up in the fact that the guy/gal didn't go by the exact thing in some doc.. hell, we may not have even read the doc that you're referring to... personally, i've found that as you get older... things like that matter a whole lot less. and it becomes a matter of if i can/want to help the questionaire who's posting... but, different strokes/different folks. peace -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:38 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 What happens when you refuse to fit in: You piss off the regulars, the ones who use the list all the time, and provide the most help, and the most useful help. And your messages/problems get ignored by the regulars, who are most likely to have the answers to solve your problem, and see that the problem gets fixed for everyone else (you and they get guided to documentation, and to making bug reports, instead of just bitching). You might get an answer by some of the irregulars, who have a tendency to give you wrong and stupid instructions. Then you start a fight trying to change everyone else to suit you, and/or the MINORITY over to your MINORITY preferences. Of course you won't see that you're in the minority, because you've got your head too far up your ass. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora Hangs on Laptop
for what it's worth.. and it might not be much! i have a toshiba satellite, running f9, and had an issue where the system would freeze/lockup, that i managed to resolve with new/different xorg drivers. basically, i changed from radeon, to radeonhd in the xrog.conf, and downloaded the appropriate driver. might help your issue.. but without knowing more about your symptoms/setup, can't say for sure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Cross Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:08 AM To: Fedora List Subject: Re: Fedora Hangs on Laptop 2008/11/7 Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm running Fedora 9 on a Dell XPS M1330 laptop. I'm using one of the earliest F9 kernel (2.6.25-14.fc9.i686.PAE) because I've been unable to get a wireless connection with any later kernel that I've tried. But I'm having huge problems with this kernel too. At random times the machine just freezes completely. The capslock and num-lock buttons flash on and off but the only way out of it seems to be to turn the system off and restart. Sometimes it can be an hour or so before the problems occurs, but more often it's a few minutes. This obviously makes the system pretty much unusable. I can use the system for as long as Iike when I boot it into Vista. Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Or do you have any suggestions on how I can help to investigate the problem? Last night I tried the Fedora 10 preview on this machine and I'm pleased to report that not only did the wireless problems go away, but I was able to use the system for three hours without it hanging. Fedora 10 looks like a lovely release. I'm really looking forward to the official version. Many thanks to everyone who was involved. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
sam... don't worry about the possible html, or not! those who want to help you, will. those who don't won't. where was/is the screen/display you were going to send regarding your display output when the lan is configured/installed during your fc9 bootup process. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sam Ruma Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:43 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 I didn't mean to send an HTML message. I just sent it. How can I tell if the message is HTML or Text? --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 5:40 AM On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 18:22 -0800, sam Ruma wrote: [HTML message deleted] Please don't post HTML to this list. See the Guidelines. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
patrick... like clock work.. it seems email lists get into a top/bottom/side/horizontal/diagonal posting conversation... good luck!!! oh.. was this top? i'm close to san fran!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Patrick O'Callaghan Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:02 AM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 08:51 -0800, bruce wrote: don't worry about the possible html, or not! those who want to help you, will. those who don't won't. Oh really? I physically *could not read* his original message without changing email clients. The recommendation against HTML is for a reason. As is the recommendation against top-posting. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
and you have to love the list police!!! jeeze!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mikkel L. Ellertson Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:21 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 16:21 -0800, sam Ruma wrote: 1. I’m not going to change my e-mail setup every time I send an e-mail just to make you happy. No one complains about the format but you. Maybe you have a problem with your e-mail. So, if you don’t like my e-mail don’t open it. 2. About top-posting. Guess what? I don’t attempt to do so. All I do is type the list e-mail (fedora-list@redhat.com) and the subject. 3. Since you are fedora guru, why don’t you solve the problem I have posted instead of arguing over minor things? 1) If you look at the archives of this list you'll see a lot of complaints about HTML and about top-posting, and not just from me. 2) You're top-posting because you're using Yahoo and that's what it does by default. However you don't *have* to top-post, even with Yahoo. Most webmail systems do top-posting by default because it's common in the business world. However it isn't recommended on this list. 3) At no time have I ever claimed to be a Fedora guru. 4) Telling someone in one sentence to not bother reading your mail, and in another that they should just answer your question and not complain about how you ask it, is to say the least inconsistent. If I did know the answer to your question (which I don't claim to) this is hardly the best approach to eliciting it. This thread is now ended as far as I'm concerned. Feel free to continue offline if you want to. poc You have to love the posters that can not be bothered to read and follow the list guidelines, complain when asked to follow them, and then demand that someone solve their problem for them. You would think we were payed tech support or something. I missed the original post because it was in HTML, but it isn't one that is worth my time to look into anyway. Mikkel -- I used to be a Fedora guru, but now I am just a smart a**. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
actually.. it really doesnt!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mikkel L. Ellertson Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:46 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 bruce wrote: and you have to love the list police!!! jeeze!!! Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines - -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJG5T9qbQrVW3JyMQRApFqAJ9Y4fv1QvIR0WhRcvppPCeO4ciS7QCfUtiZ 4IZ4AAhgEMSzfUFTeKd3Z0Q= =byDM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Create professional looking Invoices with Linux ?
hey aaron... i'm with you. on a fc9 oo2.4, i do a file-new-documents... i see a biz docs, that has a basic invoice under it. i don't see anywhere in the templates area, any other invoice -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aaron Konstam Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:05 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Create professional looking Invoices with Linux ? On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 20:42 -0800, Richard England wrote: Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi All; anyone have suggestions per software or openoffice templates that will help me create professional looking invoices ? Thanks in advance OpenOffice 2.3 on my F8 system, and OpenOffice 2.4 on my F9 system both an invoice form available. I don't believe I've added anything of that nature post install. Look in FileNewTemplates and Documents In OO2.3 At that level there are two called Modern Invoice and Elegant Invoice. In OO2.4 use the same pull down but click on the Templates group and there is an Invoice document there. HTH, ~~R When I do what you indicate on OO2.4 I see no Invoices in the Templates. Why is your version different or have to added a OO help program that I don't have? Can you explain? -- === The hearing ear is always found close to the speaking tongue, a custom whereof the memory of man runneth not howsomever to the contrary, nohow. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Linux backup help
hi les/guys... assume you had/have a usb/external drive that was connected to the laptop. assume that it was also the same size (2.5) as the laptop drive... couldn't you set up a process to do a complete rsync/backup every x hours of everything on the drive in use. this would give a complete, always available backup that would always be right at your arms ready!!! ok.. so what would be needed to accomplish this!! thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:36 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Linux backup help Frank Cox wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:26:34 -0700 Kevin Kempter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm awaiting a new linux laptop that will be my primary work machine. I want to implement a strategy that allows me as easily as possible to revert back to a former state. My primary concern is a scenario where I apply system updates and it breaks something that for me is critical. Have you looked at this? (I've never used it myself, yet, but it looks interesting.) http://www.mondorescue.org/ Clonezilla-live would be good for this if you have space on a networked machine to hold a compressed disk image. http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/ -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Linux backup help
exactly my thought!!! and given that usb/laptop drives are cheap... i can always keep one by my side, and rotate it with the working drive in the box... should work ok... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:28 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Linux backup help bruce wrote: hi les/guys... assume you had/have a usb/external drive that was connected to the laptop. assume that it was also the same size (2.5) as the laptop drive... couldn't you set up a process to do a complete rsync/backup every x hours of everything on the drive in use. Well, yes, but one of the reasons you make backups is to cover the case where you meant to type 'rm -rf something*' when you are in the root directory and accidentally type 'rm -rf something *' instead. Or a software bug that does something like that. this would give a complete, always available backup that would always be right at your arms ready!!! Yes - but it would be even better if you rotated 2 such disks - or ran over the network to another box. ok.. so what would be needed to accomplish this!! You can either do the obvious script that rsync's each partition and let cron run it, or look up one of the packages that keeps some history, like rdiff-backup. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
ok... how much mem/size of the drive? and you say, when you turn the laptop on, all you get is a black screen? you never see any kind of fc9 screen/information at all?? and you're sure the dvd is valid? did it give you any errs when you were installing? did it require you to reboot towards the end of the install process? -Original Message- From: sam Ruma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:33 PM To: bruce Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 Hello, Did you just take the default options throughout? Yes Do you only have fc9 on the drive? What do you mean? I have the DVD Did you format the drive, prior to installing? Yes --- On Mon, 11/10/08, bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.' fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 7:28 PM hi sam exactly what did you do? when you installed fc9, did you just take the default options throughout? do you only have fc9 on the drive? did you format the drive, prior to installing? be patient, we'll get you up/running.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sam Ruma Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:22 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 I have installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 by doing the below steps: 1. Disabled built in LAN in the setup. 2. Installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825. 3. Went back and enable the built in LAN in the setup to get the ethernet card to works. The problem when I start the computer I get the black screen and Fedora doesn?t load. And if I disable the built in LAN I don?t get network device in my machine. Can someone help me please? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
hi sam exactly what did you do? when you installed fc9, did you just take the default options throughout? do you only have fc9 on the drive? did you format the drive, prior to installing? be patient, we'll get you up/running.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sam Ruma Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:22 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 I have installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 by doing the below steps: 1. Disabled built in LAN in the setup. 2. Installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825. 3. Went back and enable the built in LAN in the setup to get the ethernet card to works. The problem when I start the computer I get the black screen and Fedora doesn?t load. And if I disable the built in LAN I don?t get network device in my machine. Can someone help me please? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
ok... so you're saying that something is going on regarding the lan, and that when you attempt to fire up the lan, you're not getting the fc9 to bring up the text login/gui? is this with a straight wire lan, or wireless connection? are you using any other networking function like networkmanager, or just the traditional system-network-config? -Original Message- From: sam Ruma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:44 PM To: bruce Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 It is not just a black screen I will copy the screen and e-mail it to you The DVD is valid. When I disable the built in LAN, fedora works just fine but without network (internet). So the problem is with built in LAN --- On Mon, 11/10/08, bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 7:38 PM ok... how much mem/size of the drive? and you say, when you turn the laptop on, all you get is a black screen? you never see any kind of fc9 screen/information at all?? and you're sure the dvd is valid? did it give you any errs when you were installing? did it require you to reboot towards the end of the install process? -Original Message- From: sam Ruma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:33 PM To: bruce Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 Hello, Did you just take the default options throughout? Yes Do you only have fc9 on the drive? What do you mean? I have the DVD Did you format the drive, prior to installing? Yes --- On Mon, 11/10/08, bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.' fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 7:28 PM hi sam exactly what did you do? when you installed fc9, did you just take the default options throughout? do you only have fc9 on the drive? did you format the drive, prior to installing? be patient, we'll get you up/running.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sam Ruma Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:22 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 I have installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 by doing the below steps: 1. Disabled built in LAN in the setup. 2. Installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825. 3. Went back and enable the built in LAN in the setup to get the ethernet card to works. The problem when I start the computer I get the black screen and Fedora doesn?t load. And if I disable the built in LAN I don?t get network device in my machine. Can someone help me please? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 9 and samba problems
hey... just as an exercise, i also tried to setup a smaba share a few daya ago... on a fc9, i could never get it to work. fc8/fc6... worked as expected. if i recall, i thought i saw a bug report... peace -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tux Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:33 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Fedora 9 and samba problems Hello I am having problems with fedora 9 and Samba i have the firewall set to allow for the ports samba uses. I was using the following as my smb.conf file in fc8 with no problems but it doesnt work for fedora 9 [global] workgroup = PFWKGP server string = Samba hosts allow = 127. 192.168.0. log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 50 security = share passdb backend = tdbsam load printers = no cups options = raw [public] path = /data/nfs/public writeable = yes ; browseable = yes guest ok = yes i have the following settings in selinux # getsebool -a|grep samba samba_create_home_dirs -- off samba_domain_controller -- off samba_enable_home_dirs -- on samba_export_all_ro -- off samba_export_all_rw -- on samba_run_unconfined -- off samba_share_fusefs -- off samba_share_nfs -- off use_samba_home_dirs -- off virt_use_samba -- off the permissions on the share directory are set to 777 i get the following error with the smbtree command: smbtree Password: Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth' is disabled failed tcon_X with NT_STATUS_OK Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth' is disabled failed tcon_X with NT_STATUS_OK any assistance would be appreciated. thank you -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
just saw this thread.. so bear with me if the questions are already answered... are you using dhcp on the router/laptops? are you using static ip addresses? what does the /var/log/messages say, if anything? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank Cox Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:31 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Cc: Eric Feldhusen Subject: Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:46:56 -0500 Eric Feldhusen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What brand and model of router? It's a Belkin Wireless G The interesting thing here is that I can copy the exact same file (and larger ones too) from my desktop computer to my other laptop (a no-name Intel) on the same wireless router with no problem. I also discovered that if the Acer and my other laptop are both online wirelessly at the same time and I send a large file to the Acer from my desktop computer so it locks up the router's wireless capability, the other laptop's wireless connection also locks up and won't re-connect even after I reset the router. I also have to reboot the other laptop to get it back online, otherwise it just continuously asks me for my WPA2 password. So whatever it is that causes the lock-up, it doesn't just lock up the wireless part of the router. It also locks up the wireless part of the other Intel laptop. However I don't have to reboot the Acer to get it back online after the lockup. While the Acer is the cause of the lockup for the other units, The Acer's wireless connection doesn't seem to lock up like the router and the Intel laptop do. After resetting the route the Acer will say that the connection was lost, then reconnect to the wireless router automatically. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
can i ask you to try setting up your system, without encryption/passwords...
as a test... i'm wondering if the security aspects are causing some sort of
conflict.
-Original Message-
From: Frank Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:27 AM
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
Cc: bruce
Subject: Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:34:49 -0800
bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
are you using dhcp on the router/laptops?
The laptops use dhcp. My main desktop computer (this one) is on a wired
connection to the router and it (the computer) has a static IP address. My
main desktop computer is also my DHCP server.
are you using static ip addresses?
Everything except for the laptops has a static IP address. The laptops also
have fixed addresses but they are assigned their address by the DHCP server.
(They get their address from the DHCP server, but the DHCP server always
gives
them the same address.)
Here is my dhcpd.conf:
QUOTE
# dhcpd.conf
ddns-update-style ad-hoc;
option subnet-mask255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
option routers192.168.0.1;
option domain-name-servers204.83.142.2, 204.83.142.4;
option domain-namemelvilletheatre.net;
option option-128 code 128 = string;
option option-129 code 129 = text;
get-lease-hostnames true;
next-server 192.168.0.3;
option root-path 192.168.0.3:/opt/ltsp/i386;
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.199;
if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = PXEClient {
filename /lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0;
}
else{
filename /lts/vmlinuz-2.6.16.1-ltsp-1;
}
}
#
# If you need to pass parameters on the kernel command line, you can
# do it with option-129. In order for Etherboot to look at option-129,
# you MUST have option-128 set to a specific value. The value is a
# special Etherboot signature of 'e4:45:74:68:00:00'.
#
# Add these two lines to the host entry that needs kernel parameters
#
#option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; # NOT a mac address
#option option-129 NIC=ne IO=0x300;
#
host nathalie_wireless {
hardware ethernet 00:13:e8:69:45:51;
fixed-address 192.168.0.8;
}
host acer_aspire_one {
hardware ethernet 00:23:4d:69:a5:e3;
fixed-address 192.168.0.6;
}
host acer_aspire_wired {
hardware ethernet 00:1E:68:F4:39:FC;
fixed-address 192.168.0.7;
}
host dawn_laptop {
hardware ethernet 00:1d:09:b4:5b:32;
fixed-address 192.168.0.35;
}
END OF QUOTE
what does the /var/log/messages say, if anything?
Here is the relevant section of /var/log/messages when I try to re-connect
from the Acer after copying a large file and losing the connection, before I
reset the router. I think I'm in trouble from the very first line.
Couldn't
get connection secrets. All I get is the window asking me for my WPA2
password. If I leave everything else alone after the lockup and just reset
the
router, the Acer reconnects right away all by itself. But if the Intel
laptop
was also online wirelessly when the lockup occurred, then the Intel laptop
won't
go back online after I reset the router until the Intel laptop has been
rebooted.
The lockup doesn't affect the wired connections at all. I can still log
into
the router using a wired connection and go to the configuration page to
reset
it, and I can still surf the net and whatnot from a wired connection even
without resetting the router. The wireless connections to the laptops still
think they are present after the lockups occur. I don't get the
disconnected
message and I still have four bars in the panel applet until I reset the
router. When I reset the router, the panel applet in the Acer says
disconnected, then the spinning balls start and then it reconnects, but
the
Intel says disconnected, then the spinning balls start and it comes up and
asks for my WPA2 password and won't actually connect again until I reset the
Intel laptop.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: WARN get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get
connection secrets: applet-device-wifi.c.1522
(get_secrets_dialog_response_cb):
canceled.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change:
6 -
9
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) failed for
access point (melvilletheatre.net)
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Marking connection 'Auto
melvilletheatre.net' invalid.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) failed.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change:
9 -
3
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): deactivating device
(reason: 0).
Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) starting
connection 'Auto melvilletheatre.net'
Nov 4 17:50:13
RE: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
hmmm... ok. does the router have any logging function? if it does, anything in the logs? what kind of router by the way? also. if you have time, are you willing to see if you can setup a test between your two machines/router with the machines both having static ip addresses? i'm curious to nail down exactly what the issue might be... i'm inclined to think it's a setting somewhere in the router... you say you're using scp... can you setup a nis share on one of the boxes, and attach from the other, and copy the files from the client, to the nis share? -Original Message- From: Frank Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:01 PM To: bruce Cc: 'Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. ' Subject: Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:31:53 -0800 bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i ask you to try setting up your system, without encryption/passwords... as a test... i'm wondering if the security aspects are causing some sort of conflict. I just turned set the wireless security on my router to disabled and then booted the Acer Aspire One and got it online wirelessly. I then used scp to copy the large file from my desktop computer to the Acer. The first time I tried it, all 5mb transferred just fine. It would only get through about 3mb of that before locking up with the WPA2 security enabled. I then attempted to copy that file a second time, entering the exact same command. And after getting about halfway through the transfer (just short of 3mb) the connection was locked up just the same as it was before. So the problem still exists with the wireless security turned off. It seems to transfer about twice as much data before locking up, though. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: When will KDE4 get a desktop like in KDE3.x ?
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: When will KDE4 get a desktop like in KDE3.x ? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 7:49 PM On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:19 -0700, BRUCE STANLEY wrote: It could also be argued that this philosophy of yours is in direct conflict with the whole spirit and intent of the Linux environment in the first place. Linux and it's environments were created to give users the freedom to use and configure their desktops any way they like. To tell me that I should not lose abilities that I once had and used for the sake of some new dogma that someone else believes in is like chalk scrapping against a blackboard. If I want to clutter my desktop with files and folders, that is my business not some developers. and at some point in the KDE 4.2 release process, you will be able to do that. Until then, you can't. Get over it. Craig It not a matter of getting over it Craig. It a matter of standing for principles. But these types of topics are like chocolate vs vanilla. Just don't take my choices away!;-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: When will KDE4 get a desktop like in KDE3.x ?
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Marko Vojinovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marko Vojinovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: When will KDE4 get a desktop like in KDE3.x ? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:12 AM On Monday 20 October 2008 23:50, Linuxguy123 wrote: Why can't we have files and icons on the desktop, ala KDE3.x ? You can. Use folder-view widget, and point it to the Desktop folder under your home directory. However... It could be argued that files and icons do not belong on the desktop, but rather in home directory. It could also be argued that one should use a file manager rather then desktop manager to manipulate files, while the desktop manager should be better suited to manipulate the desktop. It could further be argued that files and icons were already present on the desktop up to KDE 3.5 and that this was demonstrated to be a Bad Habbit, since the desktop usually becomes cluttered beyond any usability after some time. Finally, it could be argued that using plasmoids on the desktop rather than keeping icons on it enhances its usability. I know that forcing people to change their habbits is very painful in general, invites a horrific amount of bitching and moaning, but --- as for example with taking bitter-tasting medications, learning math in school, using selinux --- it is for their own good. I would suggest that you put some effort in getting yourself disciplined in having a directory hierarchy under your home dir to put files, and put plasmoids/widgets on the desktop. OTOH, if you really really really absolutely need files and icons on the desktop, use folder-view widget. After a while you might get interested in having two or more folder-view widgets on the desktop showing the contents of several different directories, and then you might apreciate the hard-work of the KDE4 developers who made such a thing possible. In KDE 3.5 you are limited to just one folder, just like for ex. in Windows you are limited to just one desktop. Once you find out about the Better Way, you'll never look back... ;-) HTH, :-) Marko -- It could also be argued that this philosophy of yours is in direct conflict with the whole spirit and intent of the Linux environment in the first place. Linux and it's environments were created to give users the freedom to use and configure their desktops any way they like. To tell me that I should not lose abilities that I once had and used for the sake of some new dogma that someone else believes in is like chalk scrapping against a blackboard. If I want to clutter my desktop with files and folders, that is my business not some developers. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.
and maybe he did search.. but still couldn't resolve his issue.. but i guess you felt/feel the need to belittle... and you still didn't provide him with any additional help. but i guess your day is a little better. as far as the java issue goes, i believe you can have java enabled on firefox, but not have it installed as the jre on your box. so, you're going to have to decide if you want the redhat/fedora java, the ibm java, or the sun java.. if you haven't already searched the net... take a look at a few articles on java jre firefox fedora... should get you up/running with no issues.. !! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Craig White Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work. On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 11:14 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps I actually do not have Java installed on F9? If so, what steps do I need to take in order to make it work? does it ever occur to you to search ??? - the web? - the installation notes? - the fedoraproject wiki? - the list archives? - anywhere? before you ask the list? Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: installation build and test process question - warning, it is dumb.
some would say to use a dhcp configuration/approach, which would reduce your need to go in and clean up the ethX types of issues. if you really need to have manual/distinct names/ip addresses that you;re assigning, you're going to have to do some manual work. you could create a great deal of work, and set up a process, where the cloned box, would 1st use dhcp, and then run some bash script to fetch/install information from a centralized setup, where the information would have the set ip address/server name, and change the appropriate files on the cloned box as required... have fun!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of bob smith Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:21 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Subject: installation build and test process question - warning, it is dumb. You guys have offered some great advice, so I am going to ask a dumb sort of question. I have a machine with all the peripherals - CD, DVD, Frewire, SATA, EIDE, SCSI, USB ports, and multiple ethers. I use this as a build and test machine - configuring a drive to be installed in another box. It is not possible to add more than a minimal drive to the target machines. When I build a drive, configure the apps, test it, and then install it in the intended box, I have to do lots of manual clean up, ethernet device names making them match mac addresses in the configs, and so on. I am careful about system names, ip addresses, and all that for the application installs. Is there an easier way to do this? I have tried a few alternatives but they still require post install clean up. yeah, I am kind of manually going through all this, not quie brute force but close. thanks for any ideas bob -- === Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now. CSN -Suite for.. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.
craig... the issue that he seems to be dealing with seems to be a function of the SUN jre required in order to run the app on the client site. i'm not sure that anything that you've pointed to relates to this specific issue. so, there again.. if you don't want to help, you can simply delete the msg, and move on.. there are others who apparently would try to offer a helping hand... a little karma goes along way peace... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Craig White Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 3:52 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work. On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 15:19 -0400, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 11:14 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps I actually do not have Java installed on F9? If so, what steps do I need to take in order to make it work? does it ever occur to you to search ??? - the web? - the installation notes? - the fedoraproject wiki? - the list archives? - anywhere? before you ask the list? Did it ever occur to you to answer the question or keep your mouth shut? Dan, you can check about:plugins to see what you have installed. IcedTea/OpenJDK, which is free and in Fedora repositories, will work for some sites. However, others still require the proprietary Sun Java for the record, I have previously suggested to OP that he is repetitive with this behavior...asking the list before he makes any attempt to find the answer himself. also for the record (and I am not the biggest fan of this), the 'Mailing List Guidelines' linked to at the bottom of each and every e-mail...the very first paragraph... Before Posting to the List There are a number of ways you can find help within your system. If you don't find the answer there, try to look into the list archives before posting a question. This is a high volume list and chances are that someone has already had the same problem you are now trying to fix. See Useful Resources below for a list of places to try. Refer to this presentation on mail etiquette that you should follow. Since the topic of java-plugins for firefox on Fedora 9 has been discussed at least 5 times on this list (if not 15) since the release of Fedora 9, since the topic is mentioned in the Fedora 9 release notes and since the topic is covered on the Fedora Project Wiki, and since the topic is easily googled, it seemed to me to be a very fair response. Also FTR, Iced Tea in Fedora 9 is now OpenJDK Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.
and if someone doesn't know to use google for the site for fedoraproject, or redhat.com. ie, if they have different terms.. the guy (OP) said he did look/search the net before posting... but as i said.. you wanted to feel like a superior species... which is your right i guess.. i've just found that karma has a way of somehow being a bitch when you least expect it... peace -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Craig White Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:32 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work. On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 23:59 -0400, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Craig White wrote: also for the record (and I am not the biggest fan of this), the 'Mailing List Guidelines' linked to at the bottom of each and every e-mail...the very first paragraph... You're free to ignore the OP if it's clear (as it was in this case) that this is the first place he's looked. In fact, you're free to ignore OP no matter what. I do that often But posting just to say, I'm not going to answer is ridiculous. I clearly did not do that. I very pointedly asked if he ever intended to research the issue rather than use the list as the first point of research. Java is a source of a lot of traffic on this list because Fedora developers are committed to openjdk (rightly so in my view). Easy enough to google...java site:www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list and get 247 hits right there Easy enough to read the release notes on Fedora 9 Easy enough to google java site:fedoraproject.org/wiki hint, 3rd link Too easy to ask the list before someone does any of that. Normally, I do ignore that behavior until someone keeps repeating this behavior. http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: SSH Access Issues
here are copies of the ssh_config/sshd_config files on one of my boxes... = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh]# cat ssh_config # $OpenBSD: ssh_config,v 1.15 2002/06/20 20:03:34 stevesk Exp $ # This is the ssh client system-wide configuration file. See # ssh_config(5) for more information. This file provides defaults for # users, and the values can be changed in per-user configuration files # or on the command line. # Configuration data is parsed as follows: # 1. command line options # 2. user-specific file # 3. system-wide file # Any configuration value is only changed the first time it is set. # Thus, host-specific definitions should be at the beginning of the # configuration file, and defaults at the end. # Site-wide defaults for various options # Host * # ForwardAgent no # ForwardX11 no # RhostsAuthentication no # RhostsRSAAuthentication no # RSAAuthentication yes # PasswordAuthentication yes # BatchMode no # CheckHostIP yes # StrictHostKeyChecking ask # IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity # IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa # IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa # Port 22 # Protocol 2,1 # Cipher 3des # Ciphers aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc # EscapeChar ~ Host * ForwardX11 yes # PermitRootLogin no = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh]# cat sshd_config # $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.56 2002/06/20 23:37:12 markus Exp $ # This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file. See # sshd_config(5) for more information. # This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin # The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with # OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where # possible, but leave them commented. Uncommented options change a # default value. #Port 22 #Protocol 2,1 #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 #ListenAddress :: # HostKey for protocol version 1 #HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key # HostKeys for protocol version 2 #HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key #HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key # Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key #KeyRegenerationInterval 3600 #ServerKeyBits 768 # Logging #obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging #SyslogFacility AUTH SyslogFacility AUTHPRIV #LogLevel INFO # Authentication: #LoginGraceTime 600 PermitRootLogin no #StrictModes yes #RSAAuthentication yes #PubkeyAuthentication yes #AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys # rhosts authentication should not be used #RhostsAuthentication no # Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files #IgnoreRhosts yes # For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts #RhostsRSAAuthentication no # similar for protocol version 2 #HostbasedAuthentication no # Change to yes if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for # RhostsRSAAuthentication and HostbasedAuthentication #IgnoreUserKnownHosts no # To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here! #PasswordAuthentication yes #PermitEmptyPasswords no # Change to no to disable s/key passwords #ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes # Kerberos options #KerberosAuthentication no #KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes #KerberosTicketCleanup yes #AFSTokenPassing no # Kerberos TGT Passing only works with the AFS kaserver #KerberosTgtPassing no # Set this to 'yes' to enable PAM keyboard-interactive authentication # Warning: enabling this may bypass the setting of 'PasswordAuthentication' #PAMAuthenticationViaKbdInt yes #X11Forwarding no X11Forwarding yes #X11DisplayOffset 10 #X11UseLocalhost yes #PrintMotd yes #PrintLastLog yes #KeepAlive yes #UseLogin no #UsePrivilegeSeparation yes #Compression yes #MaxStartups 10 # no default banner path #Banner /some/path #VerifyReverseMapping no # override default of no subsystems Subsystem sftp/usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh]# === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathan Allen Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:28 AM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: SSH Access Issues Hi List, I have several F8 and F9 boxes in an internal network. I can ssh between them all happily as root, but not as individual other users. After prompting me for a password, it says: Permission denied. In /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have the lines: PasswordAuthentication yes ChallengeResponseAuthentication no UsePAM yes X11Forwarding yes but I can't seem to move forward. Any ideas? Jonathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:
RE: SSH Access Issues
how are you trying to log into the other box using ssh?? what's the actual cmd you're using -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathan Allen Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:28 AM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: SSH Access Issues Hi List, I have several F8 and F9 boxes in an internal network. I can ssh between them all happily as root, but not as individual other users. After prompting me for a password, it says: Permission denied. In /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have the lines: PasswordAuthentication yes ChallengeResponseAuthentication no UsePAM yes X11Forwarding yes but I can't seem to move forward. Any ideas? Jonathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fedora upgrade from 8-9
Hi. I'm doing an upgrade from fedora 8 to 9, following the instructions listed in fedoraproject.org. However, I'm running into an issue where I have some sort of issue with HAL. As a test, I'm simply trying to upgrade hal, and then i'll do a yum upgrade for everything. the repos dir is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] yum.repos.d]# ls fedora-development.repo_ fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo fedora-rawhide.repo fedora-updates-testing.repo_ fedora.repo_ fedora-updates-testing.repo__ fedora.repo__fedora-updates-testing.repo__2 fedora-updates-newkey.repo livna-devel.repo__ fedora-updates-newkey.repo~ livna.repo_ fedora-updates.repo~ livna-testing.repo__ fedora-updates.repo_ remi-fedora.repo fedora-updates.repo.rpmnew - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cd /etc/yum.repos.d/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] yum.repos.d]# yum update hal Loaded plugins: fastestmirror Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * updates-newkey: mirrors.usc.edu Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package hal.x86_64 0:0.5.11-2.fc9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: hal-libs = 0.5.11-2.fc9 for package: hal -- Processing Dependency: PolicyKit = 0.7 for package: hal -- Processing Dependency: smbios-utils for package: hal -- Processing Dependency: /usr/bin/polkit-auth for package: hal -- Processing Dependency: libsmbios.so.2()(64bit) for package: hal -- Running transaction check --- Package hal.x86_64 0:0.5.11-2.fc9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: smbios-utils for package: hal -- Processing Dependency: libsmbios.so.2()(64bit) for package: hal --- Package hal-libs.x86_64 0:0.5.11-2.fc9 set to be updated --- Package PolicyKit.x86_64 0:0.8-3.fc9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: hal-libs = 0.5.10-4.fc8 for package: hal --- Package hal-libs.i386 0:0.5.11-2.fc9 set to be updated --- Package PolicyKit.i386 0:0.8-3.fc9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: hal-libs = 0.5.10-4.fc8 for package: hal -- Finished Dependency Resolution hal-0.5.11-2.fc9.x86_64 from updates-newkey has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: libsmbios.so.2()(64bit) is needed by package hal-0.5.11-2.fc9.x86_64 (updates-newkey) hal-0.5.11-2.fc9.x86_64 from updates-newkey has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: smbios-utils is needed by package hal-0.5.11-2.fc9.x86_64 (updates-newkey) hal-0.5.10-4.fc8.i386 from installed has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: hal-libs = 0.5.10-4.fc8 is needed by package hal-0.5.10-4.fc8.i386 (installed) hal-0.5.10-4.fc8.i386 from installed has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: hal-libs = 0.5.10-4.fc8 is needed by package hal-0.5.10-4.fc8.i386 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: libsmbios.so.2()(64bit) is needed by package hal-0.5.11-2.fc9.x86_64 (updates-newkey) Error: Missing Dependency: smbios-utils is needed by package hal-0.5.11-2.fc9.x86_64 (updates-newkey) Error: Missing Dependency: hal-libs = 0.5.10-4.fc8 is needed by package hal-0.5.10-4.fc8.i386 (installed) [EMAIL PROTECTED] yum.repos.d]# - i'm not sure what the issue is between the hal, and the hal-libs. i've tried to download/install the rpm for libsmbios.so.2, but it gets into requiring other dependencies... any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.. thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Installation problem on Dell OptiPlex620
this might be related to issues that were reported awhile ago regarding installing fedora on dell optiplex 320/520 systems... do a search for lilo/optiplex.. some of the emails/articles discuss what was done to get the system up/running, when doing an initial install. might help you out... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nigel Henry Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:07 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Installation problem on Dell OptiPlex620 On Friday 03 October 2008 19:05, Tony Molloy wrote: On Friday 03 October 2008 15:59:17 Tim wrote: Michael Magua: When you boot, at the prompt type linux vesa without the Tony Molloy: OK. I boot from the boot.iso disk ang get the install menu 1. Install or Upgrade an existing system 2. Install or Upgrade an existing system ( test mode ) 3. Rescue 4. Boot . 5. Memory test Now where can I tell it linux vesa. If I eneter tab I get vmlinuz initrd-initrd.img Adding linux vesa to this has no effect. Did you try just typing *exactly* what he said, and not doing something else? Please read what I wrote. I boot from the boot.iso disk and get the install menu. I now have 2 choices: 1. select an option from the menu, where can I type in linux vesa there 2. press TAB whereupon I get the vmlinuz initrd-initrd.img prompt I can type in linux vesa there but it has no affect. Thanks, Tony I had a whole bunch of problems booting/installing anything on my new machine that I'd built. I had to disable ACPI in the BIOS, and add acpi=off to the kernel boot line. I've just tried CD1 for Fedora 9 on another machine, an I-Friend that uses the trident graphics driver. First I tried adding linux vesa to the boot line, which got me just past the media check, which I skipped, and then starting anaconda just hung, and didn't progress any further. Next I tried the Install/Upgrade option on the boot menu. this time again I skipped the media test, and anaconda started, checked some stuff, and then tried to start X. First I got a big X in the centre of the screen, to be replaced by a mouse pointer arrow, but again progressed no further. Now I tried what had worked on my new machine (that is without disabling ACPI in the BIOS). I added acpi=off to the kernel line, and entered. Again skipped the media check, anaconda started, and checked a bunch of stuff, got the big X, then the mouse pointer, followed by a GUI to start the install. I think a lot of these problems are hardware related, and it may be worth adding acpi=off to the kernel line. In my case it worked, but maybe not for you, but worth a try. (dont forget to leave a space before adding acpi=off) All the best. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Using all of 4GB RAM... questions and Vista versus Linux...
i don't know the guts of fedora/rh... but i would imagine that a chunk of the mem space is reserved for system operational functions. as a result, the mem space that you, the app has, is the mem that's left over for apps to play in.. the reserved mem space might be used for swap, mem checking, error checking, os kernel functions, etc... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Chambers Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:33 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Using all of 4GB RAM... questions and Vista versus Linux... On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 11:17 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: Maybe someone can word this better than I but here it goes. The memory limit is not really tied to the OS TYPE (i.e. Windows XP/Vista, Linux, etc) but more to the architecture (32-bit vs. 64-bit). As far as I'm aware, all 32-bit OS's will have this limitation and all 64-bit OS's will not. You can get Windows XP, Vista or Linux in both 32 and 64-bit flavors. So to answer your question (c), yes, if you switch to a 64bit version of Linux you will be able to use all 4GB. Does that work on only 4Gb or more? I have 2Gb Ram, and running 64bit, and still only see 1.8Gb of memory, as it did with 32bit as well. -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Linux and Lightscribe Technology
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 08:51 -0500, Gene Poole wrote: | I've poked around the net looking for something to address my desire to | use my Fedora 8 box to burn Lightscribe labels onto my CDs and DVDs. But, | most of the software I found seems to be about 2-years old. That seems to | me to be a long time without an update! I've got 2-Windows machines that | will perform this task, but, I really would like to remain in my comfort | zone on Linux. I've never used the Windows Lightscribe software. Does it have features lacking in the linux version? Lightscribe is not an open standard, and, as a result has had very little development for GNU/Linux. Both the Lightscribe programs that work on GNU/Linux, one from Lightscribe itself and one from LaCie are both very basic, without nearly the same ease of use as the Windows Lightscribe software. -- Bruce Byfield 604-421.7177 on Pacific Time email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blog: http://brucebyfield.wordpress.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
