Any linux-based microSD utilities?
Greetings, I have a Kingston 4GB microSD card in my cellphone. I use a microSD USB reader to move files to and from the card (pdfs, mp3s, etc). I tend to move it between phones and computers a fair amount. It seems that the card has failed and does not auto-mount properly on either my desktop or laptop, both of which run F12, or on my phone now. However, reviewing /var/log/messages I see that the relevant daemons sense the card and create a block device (/dev/sdb or /dev/sdc depending on the machine) when I use the USB reader and insert it into a USB port. However, the device doesn't automount, nor can I mount it from root. If the card has failed, I'd like to try and recover whatever data I can. Can the card be made useable again through some sort of formatting utility? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks! Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Reading Pictures off of SD card Problem
> On 12/15/2009 01:18 PM, Tod Merley wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Jim wrote: >>> FC11/KDE >>> >>> Attempting to read Pictures on mounted SD card. >>> >>> If i tell it to use DigiKam it will read the card and display pictures. >>> >>> If I tell it to use Filemanager it will open the wine.cfg window, there >>> are >>> no wine >>> apps on SD card , just pictures. >>> >>> I uninstalled wine, but no help, If I tell it to use Filemanager it >>> still >>> looking for >>> wine.cfg. >>> >> >> Hi Jim! >> >> If I were you I would open a shell, obtain root privilege, use mount >> to see where the SD card is mounted, navigate to that point and use ls >> -a -l to poke around and see what is up. I had a similar problem and the only success that I had was to go into shell and su to root and do the same. >> > No need to become root. The card should be mounted with permissions > that let the console user access it. At least it is in Gnome. I can > normally just double-click on the icon and have it open the SD card. > I have also used mc from a terminal window to access the files on > the card. If you encounter similar errors to those of Jim's, what are the alternatives? Are there config files to edit? Is there some configuration setting in the Gnome menus that can be set? I have a MicroSD card from my phone; I use a USB reader that is recognized as an unrecognized (this was typed intentionally) digital camera by gphoto. How can I get it to be recognized as justa mounted filesystem? Oddly, this problem occurs on my F12 x86_64 desktop, but not my Dell 600m Inspiron. Thanks! Max Pyziur p...@brama.com > > Mikkel > -- > > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, > for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Auto-Mounting of Kingston MicroSD USB reader fails
Greetings, I'm currently running F12 on two systems - a Dell 600 Inspiron laptop w/ the 686 rpms and a home-built dual-core x86_64. On the laptop my usb-devices are identified and mount properly (a Sony 8GB flash drive and a Kingston MicroSD 4GB reader). On my dual core the Kingston stopped mounting properly after the F11->F12 upgrade; gnome reports it as a digital camera for which there is no proper configuration. Is there a way to configure this so that it mounts as a flash drive (as it did under F11)? Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Poor Sound recording on Intel MB DG965SS [partially solved]
Apologies, I thought that I had tried all of the options before I sent my request. As it turns out, I had the volume set too high on my tape player and that resulted in a poor digital recording. However, I still do not hear the sound from an external input device like an PMP (my Creative Zen) or a tape player when recording using gnome sound recorder. It is only when I playback that I hear what I recorded (make sense?). Is it possible to simultaneously listen and record at the same time using gnome sound recorder? Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, Several years ago, sometime during the earlier releases of Fedora, I was able to listen to and record from external devices like my Creative Zen and Sony cassette tape recorder/player; while playing or recording I could hear the sound from the devices on my system speakers. These days, I'm trying to listen and record from the same devices on my F12 Intel MB DG965SS home-built system but only with weak success. I can play wav and mp3 audio files using mpg321 and mplayer from a command line, and xmms and rhytymbox in the gnome desktop. However, unlike in previous releases (upto FC8?), I can't plug in an external device, run it through the line-in line (blue input), and hear it through the system's speakers. I can record from my tape recorder, but with very poor quality; while I'm recording, I can't hear it through the system's speakers, as I did previously. I've tried to review fedora-list threads pertinent to the subject. So far, the one application that has facilitated recording is the gnome sound recorder available through from the gnome-media-apps rpm. However, there is a considerable amount of distortion that sounds like poor grounding. I've used the cables previously with success and there do not seem to be any cracks. Looking at the sound preference setting, the hardware tab is set to Analog Stereo Duplex, the input tab is set to Line-in/line-out and the Internal Audio Device radio button is active for sound input. My MoBo is an Intel MB DG965SS and it has sound built-in (Line-in, line-out, and microphone-in). Any help in this regard would be appreciated. Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Poor Sound recording on Intel MB DG965SS
Greetings, Several years ago, sometime during the earlier releases of Fedora, I was able to listen to and record from external devices like my Creative Zen and Sony cassette tape recorder/player; while playing or recording I could hear the sound from the devices on my system speakers. These days, I'm trying to listen and record from the same devices on my F12 Intel MB DG965SS home-built system but only with weak success. I can play wav and mp3 audio files using mpg321 and mplayer from a command line, and xmms and rhytymbox in the gnome desktop. However, unlike in previous releases (upto FC8?), I can't plug in an external device, run it through the line-in line (blue input), and hear it through the system's speakers. I can record from my tape recorder, but with very poor quality; while I'm recording, I can't hear it through the system's speakers, as I did previously. I've tried to review fedora-list threads pertinent to the subject. So far, the one application that has facilitated recording is the gnome sound recorder available through from the gnome-media-apps rpm. However, there is a considerable amount of distortion that sounds like poor grounding. I've used the cables previously with success and there do not seem to be any cracks. Looking at the sound preference setting, the hardware tab is set to Analog Stereo Duplex, the input tab is set to Line-in/line-out and the Internal Audio Device radio button is active for sound input. My MoBo is an Intel MB DG965SS and it has sound built-in (Line-in, line-out, and microphone-in). Any help in this regard would be appreciated. Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Rhythmbox: podcast problem
Greetings, Using Rhythmbox, I subscribe to several podcast rss feeds. Once I select a podcast for downloading and the download has completed, the entry disappears from the list of podcasts for a particular feed. This only has started occurring recently (last three months?). Any suggestions? Much thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems changing character encoding of files
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Hiisi wrote:
> I tried
> $ iconv -f utf8 -t koi8 one_of_files
Convert from utf8 to koi8? Isn't that the opposite of what you want?
The default encoding for Fedora is usually UTF-8. Usually, you'd
convert foreign files to the local one, so you can edit them without
hassles.
> Is there a way to change encoding for every file in the folder?
Using the iconv command in a script would appear to be the way.
You've caught me! Filling like an idiot! Am I?
$ whoami
IDIOT!
Damn! It's just not my day today!
'iconv -f koi8 -t utf8 kant6112.out' does the task.
Thanks, Tim!
The appended script may be helpful, a quick combo of Perl and iconv; it
makes conversions between UTF-8 and the main Cyrillic encodings. Hack
it to your convenience; I have no pride in authorship.
Advice from Perl gearheads accepted w/o question.
Max Pyziur
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## Begin script here #
#!//usr/bin/perl -w
# 51to8 - Convert CP1251 to UTF8
&Validate;
&Convert;
sub Validate {
if ($#ARGV > 2 ) { print "\n\n\tToo many arguments !\n"; &Usage; exit;}
if ($#ARGV < 1 ) { print "\n\n\tNo arguments !\n"; &Usage; exit;}
if ($ARGV[0] ne "wk" && $ARGV[0] ne "kw" && $ARGV[0] ne "wu" && $ARGV[0] ne "uw" && $ARGV[0] ne
"ku" && $ARGV[0] ne "uk") {
print "\n\n\tCode can only be a choice of \"wk\", \"kw\", \"wd\", \"kd\", \n\t\"dt\", \"dw\",
\"dk\", \"wt\", or \"kt\"!\n" ;
if (substr($ARGV[0], 0, 1) eq "t") {
print "\n\t\(sorry latynka to cyr conversion is not
available at this time\)\n\n" ;
}
&Usage; exit;
}
if (!-e $ARGV[1]) { print "\n\n\tSourceFile does not exist!\n\n";
&Usage; exit;}
if ( defined $ARGV[2] && -e $ARGV[2] ) {
print "\n\n\tTargetFile exists!\n\n";
print "\t\(O\)verwrite or \(E\)xit? " ;
$_ = ; chomp ; tr/a-z/A-Z/ ;
if ($_ ne "O") {print "\n\n"; &Usage; exit;}
}
if (defined $ARGV[2] && $ARGV[1] eq $ARGV[2]) {print "\n\n\tTargetFile name
should be different from SourceFile\n\n"; &Usage; exit;}
$IF = $ARGV[1];
}
sub Usage {
$PROG = `basename $0`; chomp $PROG;
print "\tThe program is run in the following way: \n\n";
print "\t$PROG Code SourceFile TargetFile \n\n";
print "\twhere \"Code\" can be a choice of any two of the following:\n";
print "\tw for windows-1251 coding
k for koi8 coding
u for unicode utf8
and where Targetfile is optional
Example:
$PROG wk foo bar \(will convert 1251 text to koi8 coding\)
$PROG wt foo bar \(will transliterate 1251 text to latynka\)
" ;
}
sub Convert {
if ($ARGV[0] eq "kw") {
if (! defined $ARGV[2]) {$OF = "$IF.cp1251";} else {$OF =
$ARGV[2];}
print "Converting KOI8 $IF to CP1251 $OF ...\n";
`iconv -f KOI8 -t CP1251 -o $OF $IF`;
print "\n...Done!\n";
} elsif ($ARGV[0] eq "ku") {
if (! defined $ARGV[2]) {$OF = "$IF.utf8";} else {$OF =
$ARGV[2];}
print "Converting KOI8 $IF to UTF8 $OF ...\n";
`iconv -f KOI8 -t UTF8 -o $OF $IF`;
print "\n...Done!\n";
} elsif ($ARGV[0] eq "wu") {
if (! defined $ARGV[2]) {$OF = "$IF.utf8";} else {$OF =
$ARGV[2];}
print "Converting CP1251 $IF to UTF8 $OF ...\n";
`iconv -f CP1251 -t UTF8 -o $OF $IF`;
print "\n...Done!\n";
} elsif ($ARGV[0] eq "wk") {
if (! defined $ARGV[2]) {$OF = "$IF.koi8";} else {$OF =
$ARGV[2];}
print "Converting CP1251 $IF to KOI8 $OF ...\n";
`iconv -f CP1251 -t KOI8 -o $OF $IF`;
print "\n...Done!\n";
} elsif ($ARGV[0] eq "uk") {
if (! defined $ARGV[2]) {$OF = "$IF.koi8";} else {$OF =
$ARGV[2];}
print "Converting UTF8 $IF to KOI8 $OF ...\n";
`iconv -f UTF8 -t KOI8 -o $OF $IF`;
print "\n...Done!\n";
} elsif ($ARGV[0] eq "uw") {
if (! defined $ARGV[2]) {$OF = "$IF.cp1251";} else {$OF =
$ARGV[2];}
print "Converting UTF8 $IF to CP1251 $OF ...\n";
`iconv -f UTF8 -t CP1251 -o $OF $IF`;
print "\n...Done!\n";
}
}
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Re: capital letters in firefox
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Germán Racca wrote: > Hello Maxi: > > Thanks for your comments. I found nothing related to font in the config > file of pekWM. I also think it can be a keyboard shortcut issue, maybe I > pressed some combined keys but...how to know? I don't understand very > well the autoproperties file, I don't have enough time to dedicate to > that file now...well, it seems I have to live with that issue by now... > > Germán. > pekWM has a mailing list, I'd ask there, they will be able to help you figure out if that is the problem or not. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: capital letters in firefox
>> You've in advertently turned on some desktop feature for the blind? > > Well, I don't know, but I don't think so... > > Recently I've changed from Xfce4 to pekWM, and I'm using a customized > menu, with nothing related to features for blind. > When did this start again? > Moreover, I think this is not a Firefox problem now, because it also > happens with Midori (as I said before) and I verified the same behavior > in Konkeror right now. > Indeed, that's why I asked if you had altered a desktop setting. I'd have a look at the config file for your WM. The site for pekWM seems to have good documentation but I haven't actually tried to work with it so YMMV. Verify your config , I know there is a fontstring attribute , might this be your problem? http://www.pekwm.org/files/pekwm/doc/0.1.10/html/config/explanation.html I have tried ice and flux, both work well once you get the config right but it can be a pain to get everything just so, usually i just sell out here and use GNOME or KDE :^) http://www.pekwm.org/files/pekwm/doc/0.1.10/html/index.html Under Themes and Autoproperties you may find some enlightenment. I'm obviously inclined to think its the window manager, maybe some odd keyboard shortcut you inadvertently pressed? Its happened to me. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: capital letters in firefox
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Germán Racca wrote: > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 11:13 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> Germán Racca wrote: >> > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 10:26 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> > >> >> Germán Racca wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello people: >> >>> >> >>> I don't know what I did, but firefox is showing text in capital letters >> >>> in most of the pages, and this is irritating! How to back to 'normal' >> >>> behavior? >> >>> >> >>> Here are some useful screenshots, you can compare with the sites seen in >> >>> your own web browser: >> >>> >> >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/gracca/cositas >> >>> >> >>> Thanks in advance, >> >>> Germán. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Make sure you're not on your neighbor's wireless connection >> >> http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html >> >> >> > >> > Hehe...very interesting, but I'm not using wireless. >> > G. >> > >> > >> >> Try starting firefox in safe mode and see if you get normal case then. >> (probably will) >> If so, check which extensions/themes you've installed and/or what >> changes you've made. Does CSS directive "text-transform: uppercase" >> sound familiar? Maybe you customized some layout/skinning file for >> firefox... >> > The same problem is observed in safe mode. > Moreover, it also happens with Midori! > Ideas? > You've in advertently turned on some desktop feature for the blind? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Testdisk error for LVM partition recover
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Arun Shrimali wrote: > Dear All, > > Is there nobody who can help me in recovering data . > I'd make a copy of the data using dd_rescue or something similar first, then test your recovery methods using the copy. Its not clear if you have done this but I'd call that step one. Foremost is another tool that may help you recover some data. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Samba trying to read /var/www and /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > I'm constantly getting SELinux messages about smbd trying to access the > subject directories: > > SELinux is preventing smbd (smbd_t) "search" to /var/www > (httpd_sys_content_t). > > SELinux is preventing samba (smbd) "getattr" to /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc > (binfmt_misc_fs_t). I found this in googling. binfmt_misc is a capability of the Linux kernel which allows arbitrary executable file formats to be recognized and passed to certain user space applications, such as emulators and virtual machines. Are you running Wine maybe? virtualized windows box? It might explain this one. What's the current state of your samba related booleans? [r...@phoenix binfmt_misc]# getsebool -a | grep samba samba_create_home_dirs --> off samba_domain_controller --> off samba_enable_home_dirs --> off samba_export_all_ro --> off samba_export_all_rw --> off samba_run_unconfined --> off samba_share_fusefs --> off samba_share_nfs --> off use_samba_home_dirs --> off virt_use_samba --> off -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Google Earth for x86_64?
> On 08/02/2009 03:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:19 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
>>> Any chance of there being a version of Google Earth for x86_64 that
>>> doesn't freeze X?
>>
>> It's not Google Earth, it's the blasted Intel driver. The current one
>> breaks when using OpenGL (the Mesa library). I've reported this, as have
>> other people, but had no reaction so far.
>
> It also happens with the radeon driver as well
>
> Whether or not the drivers support or don't support 3D, it shouldn't
> cause X to hang. It takes out both the mouse movement and the keyboard
> with it. I can still see disk activity, so I can only assume that my
> direct interface to the laptop is useless when this happens. It would
> be nice if I could at least change to another VT and bag X
Given the fact that it takes out the keyboard and the mouse and all
activity stops onscreen, I remotely ssh from another box to reboot the
machine.
fyi,
Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com
>> Feel free to add your comments at:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948
>>
>> It's beyond a joke that this should be so completely broken. Some people
>> have had luck downgrading to the previous stable version ("yum downgrade
>> mesa\*") but YYMV of course.
>>
>> poc
>
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Google Earth for x86_64?
Any chance of there being a version of Google Earth for x86_64 that doesn't freeze X? p...@brill ~> uname -a Linux brill 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 7 21:02:57 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux p...@brill ~> cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz stepping: 6 cpu MHz : 1596.000 cache size : 4096 KB [...] etc. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gnome-panel icon jumble/failure
Greetings gurus and gearheads, On startup gnome-panel continues to occasionally fail and/or show icons as being jumbled. In those cases, I start an xterm session and issue a kill -9 on the gnome-panel process. Gnome-panel restarts and functions correctly. fyi, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:58 PM, wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >>> Why is it impossible to include the "ugly" equivalent for MPlayer? This, >>> and only this, is what I don't understand. >> >> You don't understand why they have patent issues or you don't understand > why patent issues are a problem for Fedora? > > As I said here: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-July/msg03733.html > > this is exactly the contrary of what I meant to say, as the context made > quite clear. > > I find it very strange that people like you give those answers and never > address the issue. > He wasn't the only one confused by your statement. The fact that they are "ugly" is precisely what keeps them frombeing included. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Totally OT] Fedora is over - Hannah-Montana-Linux Rules
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > I've spoken to a lot of 14-18yr olds in the course of my volunteer > work and I'm still continually amazed about what has changed in the > average kid's life. Now they come home from school and spend their > time playing computer games and messaging their friends on Bebo, > MySpace and Facebook. There's no real understanding among the majority > of computer users of how it works, how you program it and how to fix > it any more - the fundamental way they are using computers is > completely different to how I was brought up. An operating system is > now a gateway to the services you use - as long as you can get the > same IM programs, p2p and websites that all your mates are using, > what's under the hood just isn't a factor any more. > There in lies the problem, no cares how it gets done but what is worse is that there is an assumption by most computer users that safety and security are inherent in software design. This just ain't true. The lack of concern for what is under the hood is the reason the world is in the state it's in. I do however see g's point. If my girlfriend ever out did me on the computer then you can bet I'd get my act together quick ; ^) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I don't understand CUPS any more
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Richard Shaw wrote: > >> As far as I know the firewall on both machines will need to be >> modified. I'm trying to remember this from memory but I believe there >> is an option for IPP and one is labeled as (Server) and one is labeled >> as (Client). Machine A will need the server option checked and machine >> B will need the client option checked. > > Thanks for the response. > > But I don't think the firewalls are the problem. > I now have both disabled, but I had the appropriate settings anyway. > > I think if there was a firewall problem, telnet to ports 631 or 9100 > would not work? I would guess not. Don't forget handy tools like wireshark in these situations, especially if your sure of your config and even if your not it might help you sniff out the problem. -- The convoluted wording of legalisms grew up around the necessity to hide from ourselves the violence we intend toward each other. Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. You have done violence to him, consumed his energy. Elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another the ultimate assumption remains: "I feed on your energy." -Addenda to Orders in Council The Emperor Paul Muad'dib -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Top-Posting was Re: Problem with Fire Fox
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 28/07/09 15:25, Wendell Nichols wrote: >> >> Frank Murphy wrote: > > >>> >> Where did all this top posting facisim come from in the first place? It >> makes it much harder to read hundreds of postings when I have to scroll >> to the bottom of every post so see whats been added! Mail readers >> display mail from the TOP. Arggg >> wcn >> > > > How is following the rules fascism? > I use the same mua as you, > it only takes seconds to see all postings. > It would be help if replies were snipped of unnecessary text. > Ok. Now, I want a good clean fight. No hitting below the belt unless you slip me a c-note first! Ok . Frank gets the blue corner and Wendell the red corner. Ding Ding -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 + XFCE stability vs F10 + Gnome?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: > People, > > > On 2009-07-26 20:59, Terry Barnaby wrote: >> >> On 07/26/2009 10:54 AM, John Austin wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 18:46 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote: People, I upgraded from F10 + Gnome to F11 + XFCE and found that I am getting fairly frequent screen lockups which require a remote shutdown and at least on one occasion required a power reset. I am having heat problems though so I am not sure if the problems are related to the upgrade or deteriorating hardware. Does anyone know of stability problems with XFCE? Thanks, Phil. >>> >>> >>> Mine has been very stable but I did a clean install not upgrade >>> Linux naxos 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64 >>> >>> John >>> >> There are a few graphics driver issues in F11 due to the large >> changes going on in X-Windows currently that can lock up the XServer. >> Different graphics cards are affected more than others. Certainly >> I have lockups with some ATI cards ... >> >> Terry > > > I should have said I did a clean install as well. > > The lockups are happening every couple/few days but there is nothing in > /var/log/messages about it - is there some sort of logging of the video > driver I can do to help debug the problem? > There are other log files in /var/log and one of them is Xorg.0.log , there might be something useful in there...maybe. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer one
> But I always got the notice to make the stick bootable (the last one was > 8GB) > > Does this mean > - the sticks are no good? > - I'm doing something wrong? > - what kind of stick is ok? > fdisk wasn't working for me either to make my stick bootable, i used gparted and it worked as expected. Retry using gparted instead of fdisk is the only advice I can offer, other than maybe pasting your exact output from the process to pastebin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday 27 July 2009 03:06:34 gil...@altern.org wrote: >> > I didn't say using wmv was the problem >> >> If you don't, well, I do. Using proprietary formats on state television is >> ABSOLUTELY inacceptable. > > Then go complain to the TV station and educate *them* that they made a bad > choice of format. All of us here on the list know that proprietary formats are > a bad idea. No need to discuss it here. > >> So, MPlayer must be included instead of Totem. From what I read >> everywhere, MPlayer does better. If the devil is behind MPlayer, the code >> is open, Totem can "borrow" it. > > This cannot be done due to US law. I know, it sucks, but again, go complain to > the US government, not here. We already know the bad side of patents and such. > > And the problem cannot be solved by "borrowing" the code. The patent says that > *algorithm* is monopolized, so Totem is not allowed to use *any* code > whatsoever for it. This is the patent work at its worst --- the *idea* is > restricted, not the implementation (ie. the actual code that turns the idea > into a working program). > >> I believe I made very clear that we can't always blame Microsoft for >> having a 1% market share. There also is need for amelioration on our side. > > Interest in market share notwithstanding, I'm sure Fedora would wish to > include mplayer and all no-go codecs for all of the players available, in > order to maximize user experience. But Fedora is simply bounded by laws of the > land, and is not allowed to. Nothing more can be done "on our side". > > Best, :-) > Marko > Maybe if they send out cd's with great music in ogg format, when it doesn't play automatically in a conventional cd player then people might realize there is something outside the box. Till then.. -- If you don't shove it under their nose they won't smell it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Moving/dragging panels on Gnome Desktop
> On 06/07/09 19:38, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: >> 2009/7/6 Frank Murphy : >>> On 06/07/09 19:20, Max Pyziur wrote: >>>> With the F11 release it seems that panels on the Gnome Desktop are no >>>> longer moveable. In F10, I could drag a panel, situated at the bottom >>>> of >>>> the Desktop, to either one of the sides or the top. >>>> >>>> Or is this controlled by some configuration setting? >>> >>> click +alt >> >> Doesn't do anything for me... >> > > Then 2nd Button click on the panel > Properties > Orientation Thanks for the quick reply. Both proposed solutions work for me. My issue with gnome-desktop is that it seems when two panels are stacked one on top of the other (say on the bottom) they often do not load properly and therefore do not function. I'm trying to position one panel on the side/top with the other on the bottom to see if this is something that avoids this issue. Thanks. Max > Regards, > > Frank > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Moving/dragging panels on Gnome Desktop
Greetings, With the F11 release it seems that panels on the Gnome Desktop are no longer moveable. In F10, I could drag a panel, situated at the bottom of the Desktop, to either one of the sides or the top. Or is this controlled by some configuration setting? Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11 Gnome-panel icon/setting problems
Greetings, I recently upgraded my Dell Inspiron 600m to F11. More often than not the icons and various menus on gnome-panel fail to show. Those that do have no behaviour (click on one and there is no result). Any guidence would be appreciated. In the meantime, the latest F11 galeon i386 update solves the program startup. Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Post upgrade F10->F11: Galeon browser fails to start
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, stan wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, I upgraded my Dell Inspiron 600m Laptop this weekend to F11. A few bumps, most of which I've resolved. One that is left is that my galeon web browser fails to start. Firefox works correctly. I am running F11 x86_64, Gnome interface. All updates from updates-testing that will install without error are installed. Galleon comes up without problem and I am able to successfully surf the web. Is there particular functionality you are missing? Galeon doesn't start in the i386 flavor on my laptop. fyi, MP -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Post upgrade F10->F11: Galeon browser fails to start
Greetings, I upgraded my Dell Inspiron 600m Laptop this weekend to F11. A few bumps, most of which I've resolved. One that is left is that my galeon web browser fails to start. Firefox works correctly. Much thanks for any guidance resolving this issue. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT hosting provider experiences, comments
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, stan wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:00:02 -0400 (EDT) "Max Pyziur" wrote: Adding to some of the other responses ... It depends if you want a dedicated machine with root access on a rack, colocate your own, or be virtually hosted. As for having a dedicated machine, I've been using 888.net/Triple8.net for over eight years. I had used three other providers prior to this over a period of four years, being dissatisfied either by price or expectations of service. I hope the longevity of the association attests to my satisfaction. While I'm not a hyper-geek, remote access requires that you have solid, basic sysadmin chops and another fedora-list member's advice to keep a local box for testing is seconded by me. I've had a enough white-knuckled experiences on the live machine, paying for it with some proverbial skin. But 95% of the problems that I have encountered were my responsibility, not 888.net's. Thanks. fyi, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com I think you operate at a level above what I will, but I appreciate your insight. It gives me a point of reference. I like the white-knuckled reference. Have had some of those myself. :-) Obviously, security holes fall in this category. Other things include mega-spam bots and how to deal with them. In this realm, I've had to build some of my own fixes, including a combination of the http://cbl.abuseat.org/, a little postgresql database, and some Perl to (re)generate an /etc/hosts.deny file that blocks current offensive IPs. "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night [nor spam] stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds. fyi, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT hosting provider experiences, comments
> I'm looking into using a hosting service in order to have my own email > domain, and possibly a website. This is a completely new area for me > and so I would appreciate any tips from those in the know. > > I've tentatively narrowed to the three providers below: > > http://www.fatcow.com/fatcow/special-promo.bml?offer=OPI&LinkName=No_Name > > http://www.justhost.com/web-hosting > > http://www.hostmonster.com/hosting_features.html > > The link below plus looking at search results was the initial pool of > candidates. > > http://www.topcheaphosts.com/cheap-web-hosting-providers.shtml?KID=5196177925720021 > > Anybody have direct experience with those specific hosting services, or > want to give general advice on what to watch for with a hosting service. Adding to some of the other responses ... It depends if you want a dedicated machine with root access on a rack, colocate your own, or be virtually hosted. As for having a dedicated machine, I've been using 888.net/Triple8.net for over eight years. I had used three other providers prior to this over a period of four years, being dissatisfied either by price or expectations of service. I hope the longevity of the association attests to my satisfaction. While I'm not a hyper-geek, remote access requires that you have solid, basic sysadmin chops and another fedora-list member's advice to keep a local box for testing is seconded by me. I've had a enough white-knuckled experiences on the live machine, paying for it with some proverbial skin. But 95% of the problems that I have encountered were my responsibility, not 888.net's. > Thanks. fyi, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal fyi, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 08:26:31PM +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > 2009/5/11 Rahul Sundaram : > > On 05/11/2009 05:25 PM, Fennix wrote: > > >> I have been trying to find TorK which might be a usefull addition > > > > Homepage? What does it do? > > http://tork.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php > > "TorK is an Anonymity Manager. It helps you to manage and use the Tor > network for anonymous internet activity and the mixminion network for > anonymous email." > > Exactly what is kept anonymous and from who? -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Turn off animations in Firefox
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 01:34:21PM -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: > On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 12:21:51PM -0400, Mike Burger wrote: > > > > > Is there a way to disable animation in FireFox? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Uninstall the flashplayer plugin and disable javascript? > > > > Seriously...what type of animations are you looking to disable? Your > > question doesn't provide nearly enough detail on what you're facing. > > > > I used to run with no animation in Konqueror and then switched to > Firefox with noScript which works very well, except that when scripts > are enabled, so are animations, which I dislike intensely. > > I would like to turn off all animations. but continue using NoScript. > maybe ADBlock? -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wireless speed drops
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 07:16:41PM +0300, Georgi Hristozov wrote: > Hi, > > David Timms написа: >> Georgi Hristozov wrote: >>> >> Did you check /var/log/messages between the time it's working well, to >> when it starts to go slow ? >> Does NM go through a disconnect, connected process ? > > There's nothing in /var/log/messages. NM gets through this process, but > it doesn't actually put the interface down. That's what I quite can't > understand - how can this be fixed without bringing down the wlan > interface. > Got a coffee shop nearby? Do they have wireless access? Try there and see if the problem persists. Hardware failure has to be ruled out or all the debugging in the world isn't going to do you a bit of good. Other things to consider is if anyone else is connected to your access point, some access points will have to limit the overall speed if a client is using say b instead of g wireless, so your only as fast as your slowest man. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 12:46:57AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 05:20:26 +0200, > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > PS: To all those who have replied in this thread: please DO NOT ANSWER this > > sort of questions about unsupported releases (other than with a reply like > > mine). You need to pressure people into upgrading, refusing to answer any > > questions about the unsupported release is the best way. Answering the > > question doesn't actually help the person who asked, you're helping the > > script kiddies instead. > > I disagree. He may have a legitimate reason for not upgrading (such as current > kernels not working with his hardware). And it may be that some software > on the machine is not stock F7, but in fact more recent versions of critical > software. At this point we don't know. Certainly, strongly suggesting an > upgrade is reasonable, but trying to use unrelated problems as leverage > seems over the line to me. > If your going to use outdated software then there shouldn't be any expectation of support. The expectation that you will move away from unsupported releases is entirely reasonable. Now your certainly free to do as you please but Kevin is entirely correct. The continued use of unsupported software is detrimental to the online community as a whole, if your outdated F7 gets compromised your probably not going to be the only one that suffers as a result. I see people clobbering users with supported releases over the head because they break the oh so precious netiquette but apparently running unsupported software is ok, this in my opinion is a much bigger breach of netiquette than top posting will ever be. Responsible netizens? I 've seen that term tossed around this list more than once, maybe people should actually stop and think about what that means. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: laptop overheating using F9
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 10:56:59PM -0400, ADITYA KRISHNAN wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a HP Pavillion dv2000 laptop running Fedora 9. I notice that running > it for more than an hour causes my laptop to overheat. The temperature > screenlet displays the CPU temperature to be 80C, which I believe is pretty > high and I do not run any heavy applications. > > I read on some previous thread that appending "acpi=on" on the kernel line > of grub.conf solves this problem. But it has made no difference. > Let me know is there any particular software i can download for preventing > this overheating. > Thanks. > > Aditya Propping it up so it gets good airflow is a good idea or a cooling pad but really there are only a few likely possibilities. One you've got it on your lap and your blocking the exhaust. Two it has a hardware problem, got hit by a power surge, condensation on the internal components, faulty hardware, the list goes on. Three you have pets, are in a dusty environment, or have had it for several years without any sort of maintenance and there is a carpet growing on the heatsink. The first possibility is unlikely I think because removing it from your lap and placing it on a flat surface should cause the temp to drop within a few minutes. Are the fans kicking in? They should be going like mad at that temp. The second sounds very likely considering how hot its getting and given that certain laptop models are notorious for this sort of thing, you don't say if its shutting down or locking up on you, I would guess and hope that it is shutting down. The third possibility is also very common, I have taken apart more than a few laptops and removed built up pet hair and dust from the heatsink. It should be shutting itself down in this case. If it has a hardware problem its days are numbered and you should prepare a small service and let it make its peace with the great 01 or 10 on the net :^) because its going to the great bit bucket called /dev/null probably sooner than later at that temperature. Replacing laptop motherboards is expensive. If your not afraid of taking it apart then you should because if it does have dust and dander built up then its going to get worse as time passes and if you've caught it early enough then you can fix it and move on. I should note however that disassembling a laptop is not for the faint of heart, its far from the cakewalk of a desktop machine. In addition there is the distinct possibility, as with any electronic device, that you might damage the board if you aren't properly grounded. There are a couple of other things that it could be but I consider them unlikely because if the sensors are lying ( a miscalibration )then simply touching it would tell you as at 80 C , about 170 F , you won't be able to keep your hand on it for long. Lastly this might(very unlikely in my opinon) be an acceptable operating temp for your laptop, if it is then its at the extreme end of acceptable that's for sure and it would have to be under a heavy load but you say this is not the case. In any case I would avoid using it till you've figured out which it is because, if it isn't already permanently damaged it soon will be if you keep it running at that temperature. You could try pegging the cpu to its lowest speed with the cpu frequency scaling applet, this may help a bit. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: wifi-radar
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:07 AM, François Patte wrote > > There is no wifi-radar.conf at all... > Have you tried: touch /path/to/file/wifi-radar.conf Maybe wifi-radar will write to it if its found. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How is modules.aliases.bin created?
I believe what your looking for is mkinitrd. On 5/2/09, Peter J. Stieber wrote: > I replaced a MB with a different manufacturers version. I would like to > use the HDs from the old MB in the new. I'm trying to modify the > contents of initrd-x.img from the boot directory to change the sata > module that is loaded. > > I can' figure out how modules.*.bin is generated from modules.* > > Can anyone help me out? > Pete > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Blinking lights of death" ? Netgear Switch GS108
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:18:26AM +, g wrote: > yes. i am a 'hardware head' and i have seen this problem, even with an abit > mainboard of my own. > What's a good electronics book? I'm looking for a beginner to intermediate skill level type book. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB MicroSD card reader fails to mount
Much thanks for all of the replies and apologies for my delay in contributing, especially since I started this thread. The card is a 4GB MicroSDHC marketed by Kingston. I use it in my Palm Centro phone. Prior to reporting the initial error, I tried several possible solutions, including remounting in a different USB slot, reseating it in the USB adapter, rebooting the machine (an Intel Core 2 Duo 64 bit desktop) (apologies, as yet I don't know what services or other processes/modules are associated with the automounting of the USB MicroSD card reader). None, at the time worked. After reporting the error, I tried it on an i386 laptop and it automounted successfully. The following day, after doing a number of yum updates, I tried mounting it on the Core 2 desktop, and it worked. For me and others interested in this issue, that doesn't resolve why the card/card reader stopped automounting. However, now I can't replicate the problem. But thanks to all for the help. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com > Kam Leo wrote: > >> FORMAT. Like their standard sized SD and SDHC counterparts there are > > i am familiar with *sizes* of sd series. > > op, max pyziur, stated in his post; > >>>>> This evening when I installed my USB MicroSD reader into a USB port >>>>> it >>>>> failed to be mounted. > > in my reply to your post, i stated sd card, as he does not mention size > of card and i am giving him credit to know what card he has. i may be > incorrect in doing so. > > in your post, you state; > >>>> What type of media did you put into the reader? Verify that your >>>> reader is capable of reading SDHC media. Many are not. > > you are presuming that max has an sdhc card and that he is trying to > read it in an sd reader. > > this really should be put on hold until max replies with a conformation of > just what card and reader he has. > > -- > > peace out. > > tc,hago. > > g > . > > > in a free world without fences, who needs gates. > ** > help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today > ** > to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; > to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. > ** > learn linux: > 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html > 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ > 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html > 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 install: no X server
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 07:08:04PM -0400, lanas wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to install F10 i386 on a recent dual core ASUS motherboard > with a embedded Nvidia GeForce 8200 and the X server fails to start. I > tried OpenSUSE 11.1 (both i586 and x86_64) and it works fine. But I > don't like OpenSuSE for various reasons and would like to install > Fedora 10. > > lspci yields a whole bunch of Nvidia devices (see below). I've first > tried with the F10 respin and thought that since it's respin well, it > can be broken in some ways. The respin could not start the X server > also. It's xorg.conf file showed 16 different screens and monitors. I > tried limiting that to one single screen and monitor, but to no avail. > It looks like for some reason all the Nvidia PCI components as shown > below were taken as video components and put in the xorg.conf file. This seems really wacky or perhaps I am not understanding you. Can you post your xorg.conf? > > So I'm not going further with installing F10 since the same thing as > with the respin is seen. Basically: 'no screens found'. > > I did some search and could not find something about htis problem. > > Anyone got a fix ? It'd be very much appreciated. > > 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Device 0754 (rev a2) > 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 075c (rev a2) > 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation Device 0752 (rev a1) > 00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Device 0751 (rev a1) > 00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation Device 0753 (rev a2) > 00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Device 0568 (rev a1) > 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Device 077b (rev a1) > 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Device 077c (rev a1) > 00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Device 077d (rev a1) > 00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Device 077e (rev a1) > 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 0759 (rev a1) > 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0774 (rev a1) > 00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 075a (rev a1) > 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 0ad0 (rev a2) > 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0760 (rev a2) > 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 0569 (rev a1) > 00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 0778 (rev a1) > 00:12.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 075b (rev a1) > 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] > HyperTransport Technology Configuration > 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] > Address Map > 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM > Controller > 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] > Miscellaneous Control > 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8200 (rev a2) > This last entry is your video. Which driver are you using? lspci -v will give verbose output. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
WSJ on Oracle's purchase of Sun and consequences for MySQL
APRIL 22, 2009 Fate of Sun's Software Is Uncertain Deal Gives Oracle Control of 'Open Source' Projects, MySQL Database http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124035244246940627.html (subs. required) Some graphs: 'Some people who rely on MySQL and other "open source" products worry about how Oracle will handle the programs it acquires along with Sun. The programs are called open source because anyone can access or change the computer code that make them work. "This is a monster step backward for those of us who are committed to sustaining open source," said Lev Gonick, chief information officer at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, who uses database software from Oracle as well as MySQL. "I have no doubt that this is an attempt to kill the competition." ...' fyi, MP p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
USB MicroSD card reader fails to mount
Greetings, This evening when I installed my USB MicroSD reader into a USB port it failed to be mounted. My flash drives mount properly. Looking at the log files I see: Apr 21 23:12:54 brill kernel: usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7 Apr 21 23:12:54 brill kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Apr 21 23:12:54 brill kernel: scsi11 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Apr 21 23:12:54 brill kernel: usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=090c, idProduct=6200 Apr 21 23:12:54 brill kernel: usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Apr 21 23:12:54 brill kernel: usb 1-2: Product: Generic USB2.0 card Apr 21 23:12:54 brill kernel: usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Silicon Motion, Inc. Apr 21 23:12:54 brill kernel: usb 1-2: SerialNumber: 12345678901234567890 Apr 21 23:12:59 brill kernel: scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic USB SD Reader 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Apr 21 23:12:59 brill kernel: sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk Apr 21 23:12:59 brill kernel: sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 It stops there. A few days ago when I mounted the reader and card, /var/log/messages read: Apr 13 07:27:19 brill kernel: usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 2 Apr 13 07:28:30 brill kernel: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 Apr 13 07:28:30 brill kernel: usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Apr 13 07:28:30 brill kernel: usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=090c, idProduct=6200 Apr 13 07:28:30 brill kernel: usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Apr 13 07:28:30 brill kernel: usb 1-1: Product: Generic USB2.0 card Apr 13 07:28:30 brill kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Silicon Motion, Inc. Apr 13 07:28:30 brill kernel: usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 12345678901234567890 Apr 13 07:28:32 brill kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Apr 13 07:28:32 brill kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Apr 13 07:28:32 brill kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage Apr 13 07:28:32 brill kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic USB SD Reader 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] 7745536 512-byte hardware sectors (3966 MB) Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] 7745536 512-byte hardware sectors (3966 MB) Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: sdc: sdc1 Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk Apr 13 07:28:37 brill kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 Apr 13 07:28:40 brill gnome-keyring-daemon[3199]: adding removable location: volume_uuid_565F_311A at /media/Kingston Apr 13 07:28:40 brill hald: mounted /dev/sdc1 on behalf of uid 500 Any suggestions on how to mount this card? Much thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Rhytymbox error
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 16:36 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: I've loaded what I think are all gstreamer plugins. List what you think all of them are... I have no problems playing mp3s on that version of Rhythmbox on Fedora 9 with the following gstreamer related files installed: To clarify, I don't have a problem playing mp3s; I just get the error message at startup: "Music Player requires additional plugins An additional plugin is required to play this content The following plugin is required: ID3 Tag demuxer" rpm -qa \*gstreamer\*|sort gstreamer-0.10.20-1.fc9.i386 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.7-4.fc9.i386 gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras-0.10.7-4.fc9.i386 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.19-4.fc9.i386 gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-2.fc9.i386 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.8-10.fc9.i386 gstreamer-plugins-pulse-0.9.5-0.5.svn20070924.fc9.i386 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.8-2.fc9.i386 gstreamer-python-0.10.11-2.fc9.i386 gstreamer-tools-0.10.20-1.fc9.i386 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.3.12-1.fc9.i386 totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-13.fc9.i386 Without checking, I presume that many of them came from the rpmfusion repo. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.i686 p...@brill ~> uname -r 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.x86_64 Max Pyziur p...@brama.com Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Rhytymbox error
Greetings, I get the following message every time that I start Rhythmbox 0.11.6: Music Player requires additional plugins An additional plugin is required to play this content The following plugin is required: ID3 Tag demuxer I've loaded what I think are all gstreamer plugins. Any suggestions? Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apache Config - how to make a directory accessable ? (SOLVED)
> > SELinux was in fact the issue ! > > Thanks for your help > -- If you think you need to add policy rules , ask on fedora-selinux first. The webserver policy is pretty well tested and there are several booleans that usually will cover most of your needs. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chown ???
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:46 PM, g wrote: > Jim wrote: > >> As SU and in /home/michael folder I'am running the command; >> >> chown -R michael:michael * > > that should work. > >> But it is not changing to owner "michael" in SOME of the folders and >> files in his 'home' folders. >> What command would I use ?? > > try 'chown -R michael:michael /home/michael'. > > [also, as a note to your typing, 'SU' should be 'su'.] > If i read him right then the hidden files and such aren't getting the right owner/group. I think its just the way the * is exapanded in the shell. he should have used *.* or what you suggested : chown -R michael:michael /home/michael -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apache Config - how to make a directory accessable ?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Uwe Kiewel wrote: > max bianco wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Kempter >> wrote: >>> On Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:05:49 Uwe Kiewel wrote: >>>> Kevin Kempter wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday 07 April 2009 13:24:00 Uwe Kiewel wrote: >>>>>> Kevin Kempter wrote: >>>>>>> Hi All; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a laptop running Fedora10 x86_64. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I started the default config and I can go to http://localhost and I >>>>>>> see the expected Fedora Test Page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I want to install a web site in /stage/webpages/csweb (/stage is a >>>>>>> separate file system) so I did this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) I checked to make sure the httpd.conf file was including the >>>>>>> conf.d/* files with this line in the httpd.conf file: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Include conf.d/*.conf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) I added this file (named csweb.conf) to the /etc/httpd/conf.d >>>>>>> directory: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # >>>>>>> # Setup directory: /stage/webpages/csweb >>>>>> Is that directory readable by the webserver? In that case I talk about >>>>>> file system permissions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> THT, >>>>>> Uwe >>>>> Here's the file system perms: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /stage: >>>>> (ls -l / | grep stage) >>>>> drwxrwxrwx 18 root root 4096 2009-04-07 10:45 stage >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /stage/webpages >>>>> (ls -l /stage | grep webpages) >>>>> drwxrwxr-x 4 kkempter kkempter 4096 2009-04-07 10:46 webpages >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /stage/webpages/csweb >>>>> (ls -l /stage/webpages | grep csweb) >>>>> drwxrwxr-x 17 kkempter kkempter 4096 2009-04-07 12:41 csweb >>>> What does the error_log say? >>>> >>>> /var/log/httpd/error_log >>>> >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> Uwe >>> [Tue Apr 07 14:15:31 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: >>> access to /csweb/ denied >>> >>> >>> >> SELinux? >> > Good hint, Max. > > e.g. dmesg might show this SELinux stores its logs in : /var/log/audit/audit.log ausearch is the best tool to search this from the CLI or use the graphical audit log analysis tools. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apache Config - how to make a directory accessable ?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote: > On Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:05:49 Uwe Kiewel wrote: >> Kevin Kempter wrote: >> > On Tuesday 07 April 2009 13:24:00 Uwe Kiewel wrote: >> >> Kevin Kempter wrote: >> >> > Hi All; >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I have a laptop running Fedora10 x86_64. >> >> > >> >> > I started the default config and I can go to http://localhost and I >> >> > see the expected Fedora Test Page. >> >> > >> >> > I want to install a web site in /stage/webpages/csweb (/stage is a >> >> > separate file system) so I did this: >> >> > >> >> > 1) I checked to make sure the httpd.conf file was including the >> >> > conf.d/* files with this line in the httpd.conf file: >> >> > >> >> > Include conf.d/*.conf >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > 2) I added this file (named csweb.conf) to the /etc/httpd/conf.d >> >> > directory: >> >> > >> >> > # >> >> > # Setup directory: /stage/webpages/csweb >> >> >> >> Is that directory readable by the webserver? In that case I talk about >> >> file system permissions. >> >> >> >> >> >> THT, >> >> Uwe >> > >> > Here's the file system perms: >> > >> > >> > /stage: >> > (ls -l / | grep stage) >> > drwxrwxrwx 18 root root 4096 2009-04-07 10:45 stage >> > >> > >> > /stage/webpages >> > (ls -l /stage | grep webpages) >> > drwxrwxr-x 4 kkempter kkempter 4096 2009-04-07 10:46 webpages >> > >> > >> > /stage/webpages/csweb >> > (ls -l /stage/webpages | grep csweb) >> > drwxrwxr-x 17 kkempter kkempter 4096 2009-04-07 12:41 csweb >> >> What does the error_log say? >> >> /var/log/httpd/error_log >> >> >> HTH, >> Uwe > > [Tue Apr 07 14:15:31 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: > access to /csweb/ denied > > > SELinux? -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: openoffice presenter issues
2009/3/28 Kevin Kempter : > Hi all; > > > I'm running Fedora10 and KDE 4.2 on a laptop with an Nvidia card and I run 2 > displays via twinview. > > When I try and run the slideshow I get a scrollbar on the opposite display > as I have openoffice presenter running on but nothing else, plus at that > point the display is stuck in presenter mode so I cant stop the presentation > (which I cant see) or exit the program. > > > Thoughts ? > Ctrl-Alt-Esc might help you out. I also map the F1 key to bring up a terminal window, it has helped me on several occasions when a program hangs and I can't get it too close or minimize, give f1 a tap, run top to see the pidsic the old k9 on it. It's not full proof but its gotten me out of a few jams. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FGLRX problems
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jim wrote: >> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 >> [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) > > That device is no longer supported by fglrx. The good news is that it is > perfectly supported by the builtin Radeon driver, including 3D > acceleration, so I don't see why you would want to install fglrx in the > first place. > Because he probably found, like me, that some programs (i.e. Blender (which I haven't tried since the latest round of X updates)) don't seem always behave as expected with the Radeon driver. I don't actually think its the fault of the radeon driver anyway but that's the hangman for a lot of people when it comes to graphical issues. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: do these diagnostics tell me my MMC card is toast?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > inserting a rocketfish 2g SD card into the reader in my fedora 9 > laptop generates buckets of: > > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector > 8 > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector > 16 > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector > 24 > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector > 0 > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector > 0 > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector > 8 > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector > 16 > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector > 24 > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data > Mar 28 15:16:50 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector > 0 > ... etc etc ... > > should i just assume this card is toast and get another one? or > might there be another reason for the above? > > rday > -- I had a flash drive that I thought was toast, it gave intermittent errors when I tried to write to it which got progressively worse until one day I just couldn't write to it anymore. I let it collect dust for a week then decided on whim to format the thing and its been working fine ever since. No problems since, I never did figure out why it happened. In hindsight the only thing I can think of is maybe that week there was a kernel update that fixed a bug or it might have been that I swapped it between nix and doze boxes a lot. Don't do that anymore but its all supposition since I don't have any facts. This as you may have guessed is just my long winded way of saying format it for giggles and see what happens. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 won't bootup. Stalls at startx, and gdm
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Nigel Henry wrote: > F10 was booting up fine yesterday, and I had been trying to get Hydrogen > working so that it didn't crash the desktop when I tried to start it. Got > that problem resolved, and had rebooted a few times during getting the > Hydrogen problem resolved. > > Today I try to bootup F10 and it stalls when trying to startx, and gdm. The > monitor is just clicking off, and on. No text, no nothing. > > Next I bootup, appending the kernel line in grub to boot into runlevel 3, > which gets me into runlevel 3. I login with username, and password, then su > to root. Then I type gdm, and gdm opens, and I can login to KDE with no > problems. > > There are some 300MB of updates waiting for my F10, but this problem has > arrived before installing any of them. > > With most of the installs on this Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, I have to append the > kernel line in grub with acpi-off, otherwise the bootup hangs when starting > X. Everything is locked up. With acpi=off F10 has been booting ok up to to > ysterday. Quite why I'm now seeing this problem with F10 is to say the least, > a bit bizarre. > > Anyone have any ideas as how to resolve the problem, apart from re-installing > F10? > > Nigel. Exactly what kind of voodoo did you have to do to get hydrogen working? I looked at the web page and i notice it uses QT3(I am assuming were talking the drum machine program Hydrogen BTW), I don't know if this is significant but I thought KDE used QT4, maybe some interlibrary warfare is going on I also know that some updates to X are available, these might solve your problem if you can get them installed. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: vnc server problem
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:50:23 -0500 Mail Llists wrote: >So we can help mother-in-law when she has questions - can move the > mouse and show her how to use the computer. Then why not just use vino? That's the VNC server that lets you share their GNOME session. System > Preferences > Internet & Network > Remote Desktop. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
>> I suppose working toward a linux binary standard that would actually >> make it possible for 3rd parties to build programs that install and run >> as expected on different distributions is too much to ask... As, >> obviously, is asking for interface stability for more than a week at a >> time so 3rd parties could specifically target the distribution's >> nonstandard quirks in a useful way. > > ... I'd accept that - but there's a problem with your argument: VMWare > already uses a rather wildly accepted binary distribution system (RPM). > Problem is - their RPM's are poorly built... > > - Gilboa > How do you define poorly built? I don't know much about rpm's beyond how to install and uninstall them. Can someone tell me what makes for a poorly built rpm? -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Mark wrote: > Hey, > > The question is simple: > Lets use the browser view of nautilus in the next fedora release. > > Motivation: > A new window for each folder that i open is so painful!! That's the default which I don't like either but it can be changed rather easily to a browser view. > 1. My taskbar fills up in notime each time i open a new folder > 2. New features of nautilus: tabbed browsing! completely useless if > your not using the browser mode > 3. Tabbed browsing (files/folders or web) is "hot" these days > 4. It feels so.. old (windows 95? 3.11?) I agree with you here... > just to name a few > > Cross posted to the devel list because it's for the next fedora > version (currently in development thus the devel list) > > Bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477052 (wow! i > couldn't find an existing one for this! made one myself) That's how you do it. Good luck. I hope this doesn't turn into a flame fest. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Modify rules for Firewall
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Jim wrote: > FC8 > I had to change the SSHD Port from 22 to 2995 and since the Firewall is > looking at 22 where do I make changes to 2995. > Is it in /etc/sysconfig/iptables > I suppose you could use iptables but in the firewall GUI , second choice "Other Ports" then "Add" here you should be able to make the change you need, it looks like 2295 is already reserved for something called advant-lm . I am not clear on what exactly that is but it looks like its not in use just reserved for that purpose or you could use another port. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gimp Gap?
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Dan Thurman wrote: > > [OFF TOPIC]: Gimp > > I was reading Gimp on Gimp's website and > discovered that there was something called > Gap. It was not clear to me if this was > already built in, is a plugin, or a separate > application to be downloaded and installed. > > If Gap is already built-in, how does one > invoke it? > Its a plugin that you can download here: ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/plug-ins/v2.4/gap/ -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: printer finding?
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > There are some uncountable number of printers hooked to the > network at work. Somehow, fedora 10 seems to have discovered > one of them all by itself, and I'm just kind of wondering > how the devil it did that. > > More mysterious is the device URI that shows up in the > printer properties: > > ipp://labpc2:631/printers/shemp > > I'm suspecting labpc2 is a linux box that happens to have > shemp configured as a printer and I can find it because it > is on the same subnet as my PC (all the printers are actually > on a different subnet), so I'm not going directly to the > printer, but to a different linux box and then to the printer. > > Is that a good theory? :-). > Yes. If its shared out then you will be able to see it by default I believe. You can turn that off in the printer dialog. If memory serves 631 is the standard port for cups. I can't recall if printer sharing is enabled by default but if it is they may not even realize its shared out. You could send them a print job asking if they realize its shared out or you might just masquerade as gremlin. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox and 'call home' addons
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:22 AM, max bianco wrote: > This is the most informative of the links I have found, apparently it > was an email scam but this post is two years old, some of the others > are from december of this year but they don't provide much detail. I > wonder if its just a rehash of the old scam or if they are attacking > the browser directly this time instead of via an email attachment. > > http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/07/passwordstealing_trojan_disgui.html > Looks like it attacks only Windows so far, here is the BitDefender low down. http://www.bitdefender.com/VIRUS-1000451-en--Trojan.PWS.ChromeInject.B.html This article from PCWorld India offers a few more details. Drive by downloads and tricking users seem to be the primary method of infection. http://www.pcworld.in/india/news/5800093/Spyware__Security/Firefox_Users_Hit_by_PasswordStealing_Trojan the russians are coming!!!(no offense to russians, just a little coldwar humor) or they might already be in your box . So be careful in online shopping, it looks to primarily target winblows but if you dual boot, especially if you have the ability to read/write ext3 from windows, its possible there could be some danger of it downloading a buddy for your linux install but they don't say one way or the other as far as I can see. Turning off javascript is recommended, at least when you visit a financial website. I've gone through over a dozen "articles" now but none offers much more than the links above. Oh its that wonderful time of year when folks are giddy and full of christmas cheer and of course scumbags are trying to deprive you of beer money... I mean money for gifts..no, I mean beer money Bah humbug!! ;^) -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox and 'call home' addons
This is the most informative of the links I have found, apparently it was an email scam but this post is two years old, some of the others are from december of this year but they don't provide much detail. I wonder if its just a rehash of the old scam or if they are attacking the browser directly this time instead of via an email attachment. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/07/passwordstealing_trojan_disgui.html -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox and 'call home' addons
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:18 PM, g wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > in past 6 or 8 weeks, i read a post about a sneaky addon that would do a > 'call home' that tracked sign in entries and was intended to capture passwords > and such for banks and other such logins. > > in past 3 weeks, i have had a drastic slow down of firefox in this install, > which i use mostly, but no slow down in other installs. > > anyone familiar with this or know where i might find info on such? > I did a quick google search for : firefox addon hacked I haven't even looked at any of the links yet but it came up with quite a bit, it looks like what your referring too. Apparently, from reading the blurb, they steal passwords for online banking. I'd appreciate a heads up if you find anything particularly interesting. I'm going to check them out and see what I can dig up. -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome sound recorder
>> > I seem to be talking to myself, but maybe someone will join in... > > The problem has come back, this time spontaneously with no help from > Audacity and with the webcam disconnected. I recorded one file > successfully, saved it, played back with Totem to check and then tried > to make another recording. That one stuttered on playback. > > Two questions: 1) what is going wrong and 2) how to fix it? > > Any advice will be much appreciated. A little more information wouldn't hurt. Which version of Audacity? version of sound recorder? Have you looked for bugs filed against either program? what sound device are you using? what is the big picture of the hardware your using? i.e. lspci -v Are there any driver issues? Just saying it doesn't work doesn't give much to go on, are you up to date with patches and such? when was the last update? Perhaps its a shared library that is causing the issue? I haven't gotten around to installing f10 yet but if can answer some of these questions then perhaps someone might be able to give you something better than a guess. Just a thought. -Max -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
FOSDEM 2009 in Brussels (Feb 7-8)
Hey Fedora folks in Europe! We're organizing FOSDEM 2009 over on the Fedora Wiki, and we need you to do a few things: (1) Sign up if you will attend. (2) Take a look at the list of things we need, and put your name next to anything you can bring. (3) Sign up to give a talk in the Fedora dev room, if you are interested. (4) Make a note on the FOSDEM accomodation page telling folks where you are staying. If you volunteer to take care of getting some swag made, the Fedora Project will reimburse you. Similarly, if you are a community member, and you either man the booth or speak in the dev room, and you need some travel sponsorship, please email me privately. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/Accommodation Hope to see you there, Max -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sprint service smartphone recommendation for F10?
> Max Pyziur wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> Per the subject line, would anyone have any recommendations on a >> smartphone under a Sprint plan that smoothly works with F10? >> >> Samsung Instinct? >> The new Palm Centros? >> One of the Blackberries? > > What do you expect to be able to do from the phone? They would all work My first PDA was/is a Sharp Zaurus which used UTF-8 encoding. Many of my contacts are in the FSU, hence the information is in Ukrainian (a bit in Russian) I'd like to be able to move my contact information to a device where I can continue to use this information. I've looked at the Samsung Instinct at a Sprint dealer. While the touch technology is appealing, I saw that the Instinct's web browser couldn't display Cyrillic characters, replacing them with empty squares. Looking briefly through Instinct-related forums to see if a Cyrillic font could be downloaded, there were none. Can the Palm Centro handle UTF-8 or are their fonts only 8bit and Cyrillic is shown in CP1251? Also, I'm not sure what else to look for in a phone. When picture-taking phones were introduced, I thought that it was a novelty and a feature that I would never use. When the choices on an upgrade only included picture-taking phones, I got one. Now, I see that they are useful, especially when there is an expedient need where quality isn't as important as the ability to illustrate the shot (a display in a window, an emergency situation). I see that the Instinct has GPS; I generally know where I'm going, but I'm amazed that when driving during evenings on the New York State Thruway at how many people have a GPS device of some sort visible through the window. Perhaps I too would find GPS useful. Thanks for the reply. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com > for imap email if you have a public address. There are palm ssh and > vnc programs that should run on the Centro. The Instinct can run some > java apps but so far there's no ssh that works with the on-screen > keyboard. It has a windows-only multimedia manager, but you can > access it as a USB storarge device (or put the micro-SD card in a usb > adapter) and access the media/music/images folders directly. I haven't > tried bluetooth access from Linux but that should work too and would > transfer contacts if you can manage them as vcards. I'd call the > instinct more of an entertainment phone than a smartphone but it does > email reasonably well if you can get by with just seeing the most recent > 25-100 messages in your inbox. I think you can only sync the calendar > with exchange or outlook (I used to have a treo and now have an > instinct...). > > -- >Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:09:57 -0700 Reg Clemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I do the same thing on f9, I get the film clip, but NO AUDIO.
Yeah, I had the same problem. The solution was to install all
the packages I put here:
http://www.fedorafaq.org/f9/#flash
-Max
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Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:56:13 +0530 "Rahul Tidke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc20081130_276152.htm > > Any comments from Fedora community?? Well, I think he makes some interesting points, but he's drawing a broad generalization from very little presented data. And, as other intelligent people have pointed out in the thread (and as the article author kind of pointed out, but ignored to a large degree, perhaps for reasons of sensationalism--and it worked, look how long this thread is) open-source is a development model, not a business model. However, I run a business (Everything Solved, Inc.) that is supported entirely by providing services related to open-source software. It's been quite successful for several years. So that's one counter-example. If he's saying, "The words 'open-source' aren't a genie in a bottle," then yeah, he's right, but I think we've all known that since 2000. The bubble was a long time ago now, folks. :-) As always, you can't just go around stealing VCs' money and not *selling* anything and expect your business to go anywhere. Big news. :-) There's no real get-rich-quick in the world, there's only "work hard, be smart, be well-organized, be lucky, and maybe you'll get rich". -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Sprint service smartphone recommendation for F10?
Greetings, Per the subject line, would anyone have any recommendations on a smartphone under a Sprint plan that smoothly works with F10? Samsung Instinct? The new Palm Centros? One of the Blackberries? Thanks! Max Pyziur [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
dbus error on yum installs/updates
Greetings, Today, I started getting the following error message after a yum update or installation: ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.40:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable" member "Introspect" error name "(unset)" destination ":1.40") Any suggestions on how to proceed? Thanks! Max Pyziur [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum errors on rpmfusion in F10: Please help (SOLVED!)
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:48:32 -0800 (PST) "Dean S. Messing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I forgot to say THANK YOU MAX! for providing the clue > to my problem with using the rpmfusion repos. Hey, you're welcome. :-) No problem. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum error on rpmfusion-FIXED- I Think !
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:06:31 -0500 Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Max, THANK YOU > > This fixed my problem of downloading and installing of rpmfusion > repos, and I can now install packages from rpmfusion. That's great Jim! :-) I'm glad to hear it. :-) -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help with DNS hell
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:32:47 -0200 "Andre Costa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm having a *real* hard time trying to use F10 due to DNS problems [ > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459756] The simplest workaround is these instructions: http://www.fedorafaq.org/f10/#dns-slow They are working perfectly well for me. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum error on rpmfusion
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:14:24 -0500 Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Errno 4] IOError: > Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for > repository: rpmfusion-free-updates. Please verify its path and try > again If you frequently get this but not always, you are experiencing this: http://www.fedorafaq.org/f10/#dns-slow -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network performance utility query!
IPTraf? From the Description: IPTraf is a console-based network monitoring utility. IPTraf gathers data like TCP connection packet and byte counts, interface statistics and activity indicators, TCP/UDP traffic breakdowns, and LAN station packet and byte counts. IPTraf features include an IP traffic monitor which shows TCP flag information, packet and byte counts, ICMP details, OSPF packet types, and oversized IP packet warnings; interface statistics showing IP, TCP, UDP, ICMP, non-IP and other IP packet counts, IP checksum errors, interface activity and packet size counts; a TCP and UDP service monitor showing counts of incoming and outgoing packets for common TCP and UDP application ports, a LAN statistics module that discovers active hosts and displays statistics about their activity; TCP, UDP and other protocol display filters so you can view just the traffic you want; logging; support for Ethernet, FDDI, ISDN, SLIP, PPP, and loopback interfaces; and utilization of the built-in raw socket interface of the Linux kernel, so it can be used on a wide variety of supported network cards. fyi, MP [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Dan Track wrote: Hi Does anyone know of a program that I can use to test network performance. I've got to devices one linux and the other windows, I'd like to see if the linux device is getting nearly the max 100Mbit of performance when sending data to the windows box. Any thoughts? Thanks Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: login fails
Luca wrote: Hi all, I have a workstation with Fedora 8 installed. Everything was working fine, then I guess I messed up something in the /usr and /var directories. What exactly did you do? to /usr and /var directories. Now when if I boot at run level 3 everything is fine, till the login message. Then the login gives me the message "Login incorrect" before I can even enter the password. This happens if I try to login as root or normal user. The /etc/passwd file seems to be ok. Can someone help me? Thanks Luca -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Les Mikesell wrote: The 'database' is in the head of the person writing the answer - who is also likely to be the same person who just collated the relevant information into the wiki or recently read it there. Just the same way things work now except that there would be less repetition and once a pattern of showing useful info in the wiki emerged, people would start to look there first. or, in other words, another 'faq'. so what you are saying is that this is not enough? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Main_Page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/Download#FAQ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legacy/MailingLists?highlight=%28mailing+list%29 http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ if you believe that, then i would suggest that you contact rahul sundaram, as he is maintainer of 'wiki/faq'. i am sure that he would be interested in what you have to say, and more than happy to help you. for 'fedora-list', there is https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ one thing that may be lacking is a way to search archives. if there is a search engine to do this, i have not found it. This is pretty useful: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=011057779923588025604%3Aakrqpglozlu -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
Anders Karlsson wrote: * Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20080826 21:36]: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:39 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 07:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: (Remember: Using Linux also is a political statement) Maybe. Maybe not. Well, to newcomer, it's likely not an obvious political statement, to Linux veterans supporting Linux rsp. one of it's flavors (here: Fedora) is a fully conscious active political statement/decision. Chosing to use Linux may be a political statement. It may also be a "I picked the best tool for the job, and this time, it happened to be Linux". This might be news to newcomers who regard Fedora and Linux as "a technical alternative to Vista", ... but whether you like it or not, Linux comes with political and philosophical strings attached, whether you agree to them or not. That is true. What's not true is the percieved need to ram political and philosophical views down the neck of some poor newcomer that requires technical assistance. (I've made this point before.) You can't control who offers help or what terms they demand for it. I haven't seen anyone ram philosophicals down anyones throat. I have seen two or more eager parties go at it for weeks but I don't mind that, I will participate or I won't. IMHO - the community would be much better served by letting the first list a new user subscribes to focus on help rather than indoctrination. After all, we do want more users, right? :) If you want more users and less noise then you have to raise the bar. I like the fedora list but it seems that too often people are offered a solution with little or no explanation. Now you might say, who has the time? or they just want it to work. These attitudes promote ignorance. I personally want an explanation, I don't like blindly implementing other peoples ideas and in fact I don't. I don't ask for help too often here anymore, not because I don't need it but because I'll have to hunt down the explanation on my own, I figure while I am at it I might as well hunt down the solution too. Maybe its just people assuming the other OP has a certain level of knowledge but if they had that level of knowledge then I am guessing they wouldn't need help. Fact is I'd rather an explanation was offered than a solution. Solutions are often quite apparent when the situation is properly understood. I am in the minority on this I am sure. Should I go back and count how many flash threads I have stored in my archive? All started because someone didn't have sound on flash, how about all the bitching and moaning about KDE? Someone even attributed a quote bashing KDE to me, when in fact I like it, on the blog they pass off as news. How many other recurring questions can I find? lets seecodecs is another...shall I go on? You want a technical list? We need to start producing threads that really explain things so that people can get pointed to these messages to solve their problem, instead of rehashing the same shit over and over. I am not blaming the people that ask the questions, I am blaming the people that provide the answers. Instead of getting technical now the censorship is startingno I don't expect anyone will listen but i feel obligated to say it and no I am not interested in debating the matter I signed up for a technical discussion but its pretty thin around here. -Max -- Fortune favors the *BOLD* -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: pulseaudio, howto make it work?
Timothy Murphy wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: As far as I know, Fedora has never tried to run any kind of poll to find what problems users might have. Nor with the kernel, cat, ed, cp ... so that is rather a silly point. With you Alan, I will respectfully disagree. If it doesn't work, we do not think our complaints are 'silly'. I don't think Alan Cox was saying you were silly to complain - he was saying I was silly to expect a poll of Fedora users about your complaint. My suggestion probably was silly, but I think Fedora _does_ need to adopt a more newbie-friendly approach, if it wants to overthrow the giant, which I hope it does. Overthrowing the giant would be a nice side effect but its hardly a worthy goal for the Fedora Project, IMO. -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?
2008/8/24 Björn Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > max wrote: >> If you and others want to insist that it was >> just not wanting to own up to the incident > > It doesn't seem likely that that was the reason. If they didn't want to admit > that there had been an intrusion, then I don't think they would have sent out > any warning at all. They did try to get a warning out, but they didn't want > to say that it was about security. I don't know if they thought that > everybody would be able to read between the lines, or if they thought that > people wouldn't understand but would stop updating without knowing why, but > either way I don't understand why they didn't tell us clearly what it was > they were trying to warn us about. > >> then I have to assume you >> don't trust the Fedora Project. > > I did trust the Fedora project. Now I'm not so sure anymore. > >> The only thing that's been made clear is that the Fedora >> Project has a number of users who take it for granted. > > Take what for granted? The Fedora project's existence? Its security? Its > openness? Yes, maybe I did take its openness for granted. There's been a lot > of talk about openness and having the community involved on equal terms. I > guess I believed it. > >> > Can you answer the opposite question: Why the cryptic message? Can you >> > think of a rational reason to avoid the word "security"? Something more >> > concrete than just "legal issues"? >> >> Once again we don't know the constraints imposed on them. Some are >> certainly caused by legal issues and what remains an on going >> investigation. Your opinion of US law is irrelevant, I've had my issues >> with it before as well but the law is the law. The point is that we >> don't have all the facts. > > In other words, no, you can't think of a plausible reason either. > and I have the sense not to speculate without the full facts. Why is giving Fedora the benefit of the doubt so hard? >> The more important point is that you have used >> half the facts to indict Paul Frields. > > I have not accused Paul Frields of a crime. I pointed out that the extreme you called him a liar. Laws can be silly and violating a silly law , if it is in fact silly, is still a crime officially. Calling someone a liar isn't a crime but its worse than withholding information, especially when you don't know what he is or isn't at liberty to discuss. This also involves Red Hat and not the Fedora Project alone. > vagueness of his announcements, which he claimed had the purpose of avoiding > the impression that he wasn't truthful, actually had the opposite effect on > me. That's a failure to some degree if his intentions were honest. It's not a > crime. I have also left the possibility open that someone else may have given > him orders. > You called him a liar > I didn't use anywhere near half the facts. I used two facts: That the issue > was a security issue, and that this was not clearly stated in the first > announcement. > Your right I gave you too much credit when I said half the facts. >> you have rushed to judgement before a >> reasonable amount of time has been given to carry out the investigation. > > This is not about how long the investigation takes. It's about the lack of the > word "security" in the first announcement. I fully understand that the > investigation takes time. It did not, however, take this long to find out > that the issue was a security issue. If you think I'm complaining that the > investigation takes too long, then you haven't read what I've written. > The only issue I have with anything you've said is your assertion that Paul Frields intentionally deceived us. You made this statement without being fully acquainted with the facts, we still do not have them all. If you think I have no issues with how this was handled then how about I accuse you of being obtuse. i have no interest in debating it further, say what you will, you made an error in judgment. -- Sometimes I wonder if God has a sense of humor.then I see the coverage of the 2008 campaign and I know for sure God has a great sense of humor!! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?
Les Mikesell wrote: max wrote: You call it paranoia, I call it common sense. Do the math, I did. I felt that if it was anything but a security issue then they'd have come right out and said so. The only reason not to come out and say so boiled down to a handful of things. But doesn't a security issue usually imply that everyone else running the same software is vulnerable to the same intrusion? That is, the maybe but we don't know yet what exactly happened. My issue is not with saying it was handled badly. I would have preferred that more information was provided. That isn't what happened though and ultimately it comes down to a matter of trust. Second guessing the man on the ground is popular but unwise, people only assume they would have done better in the same situation but that is by no means certain. Your on the scene, you make a judgement call based on what you know and what you think best at the moment. Hindsight is always 20/20, having to make the call is harder by far and I think accusing Paul Frields of intentionally deceiving us is going to far, especially without all the facts. This didn't happen last year, its on going, taking place over the course of a couple of weeks and its only fair to allow time for a proper assesment of the situation. How many complaints would we have seen if it turned out to be a false alarm? How many would have blown away their systems and then cried that nothing should have been said until they were certain what had transpired? last thing you want to do is keep running with no updates. The only thing that's been made clear is that the Fedora Project has a number of users who take it for granted. Do we know yet how the initial access to the machine was obtained? Ssh password-guessing or a more fundamental software problem that may still be a danger for others? That is precisely the point , we don't know much. If users don't trust the Fedora Project then they should go elsewhere but I doubt they'll do any better. Some organizations won't even give a vague warning, never mind admit they've been cracked. -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: pulseaudio, howto make it work?
Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 24 August 2008, max wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 24 August 2008, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 20:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote: Craig White wrote: - bugzilla # ? I just searched bugzilla for all reports for your e-mail address and couldn't find any. Craig Different email address. #458611 I think he gave you a really good answer too... pulseaudio doesn't set the user permissions on devices but is handled by ConsoleKit / HAL If you give a report on your audio hardware submitted to ConsoleKit package, they could fix the problem (assuming that someone else hasn't already reported it). 'Scuse me, Craig, but WTH does console-kit have to do with pulseaudio? In all the considerable ranting and raving that has gone on since F8 came out with this supposed "improvement", I don't recall console-kit ever being mentioned in the same context as pulseaudio. Please explain. The explanation is there. Where? pulseaudio doesn't set the user permissions on devices but is handled by ConsoleKit / HAL There. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: 13. Re: FC9 NetworkManager & WPA (Tim)
Tim wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 13:07 +0200, Leon Vergottini wrote: I had the same problem the other day. After choosing it manually from lists of available authentication methods it worked - as the other guy says, make sure the router is configured with WPA. I have noticed that I had to try several times before it connected. So if it does not connect the first time, try again. It will authenticate eventually and once it gets that done it will be fine. I have noticed that NetworkManager takes its own sweet time to find this router, yet ones (much further away) from the neighbours pop up into the list quite quickly. Yip, Dlink router is a real bastard. I have set up for my parents home and it works fine. What swayed me over this one compared to the Netgear was its three-year warranty versus the Netgear's one year. I've got more than a bit sick of unreliable gear. Now, having played with it and someone else's Netgear, one thing that I *REALLY* do not like about this Dlink DIR-300 is you cannot disable re-configuration via the wireless link. On other routers, I've been able to set it so that you had to plug a cable in to be able to configure it. Picture this scenario: You plug in your new wireless router, it has no security settings. You configure it using the HTTP webserver, and your passwords (any you set into it) are part of the HTML source code, viewable by anyone else at the same time. Your browser may display them as * in the webform, but it's only the browser display that's obscuring them. You can make the router only accessible via https, at least I can on my Linksys though I am not sure if that would fix the issue in question. There is some OPen WRT firmware for the linksys that I have been dying to try though http://openwrt.org/ -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: pulseaudio, howto make it work?
Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 24 August 2008, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 20:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote: Craig White wrote: - bugzilla # ? I just searched bugzilla for all reports for your e-mail address and couldn't find any. Craig Different email address. #458611 I think he gave you a really good answer too... pulseaudio doesn't set the user permissions on devices but is handled by ConsoleKit / HAL If you give a report on your audio hardware submitted to ConsoleKit package, they could fix the problem (assuming that someone else hasn't already reported it). 'Scuse me, Craig, but WTH does console-kit have to do with pulseaudio? In all the considerable ranting and raving that has gone on since F8 came out with this supposed "improvement", I don't recall console-kit ever being mentioned in the same context as pulseaudio. Please explain. The explanation is there. -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?
Björn Persson wrote: max wrote: You had no idea there was a security issue? It was the first thing to cross my mind when I first saw the announcement. What else could it have been? Why else the cryptic message? You're lucky to be that paranoid. Many people would call me paranoid if they You call it paranoia, I call it common sense. Do the math, I did. I felt that if it was anything but a security issue then they'd have come right out and said so. The only reason not to come out and say so boiled down to a handful of things. An ongoing investigation and/or uncertainty about what had happened. If you and others want to insist that it was just not wanting to own up to the incident then I have to assume you don't trust the Fedora Project. If you don't trust it then why use the product of its labor? All this talk of obscurity is a bunch of bullshit when anyone with a grain of common sense would have come to the proper conclusion or suspicion, if you like, and done what needed doing at their end. The message set off the warning bells for me precisely because it avoided stating that it wasn't a security issue, others read it the same way. All things considered its been handled to my satisfaction. The only thing that's been made clear is that the Fedora Project has a number of users who take it for granted. knew what kind of security measures I take with my home computers, but apparently I'm not paranoid enough yet. Can you answer the opposite question: Why the cryptic message? Can you think of a rational reason to avoid the word "security"? Something more concrete than just "legal issues"? Once again we don't know the constraints imposed on them. Some are certainly caused by legal issues and what remains an on going investigation. Your opinion of US law is irrelevant, I've had my issues with it before as well but the law is the law. The point is that we don't have all the facts. The more important point is that you have used half the facts to indict Paul Frields. I am willing to concede that you might even be right Bjorn, but you have rushed to judgement before a reasonable amount of time has been given to carry out the investigation. Your being unfair. -- "Every form of addiction is bad, no matter whether the narcotic be alcohol, morphine or idealism." --Carl Jung -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?
Björn Persson wrote: Anders Karlsson wrote: * Björn Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20080823 18:57]: The first announcement gave me the impression that there was a technical problem, such as overloaded web servers or a crashed database or something. In retrospect it's obvious that when that announcement was written they already knew or at least suspected that there had been an intrusion. This gives me the impression that Paul W. Frields was not being truthful. He lied by telling half the truth. That is a pretty strong statement to make. Not telling everything does not equate lying - especially when what you are telling (or can tell) is true. And if all you have is an impression that he is not truthful, you conceed that you have no evidence to the contrary as well. I think you owe Paul Frields an apology. It would be possible to convince me that he didn't mean to deceive. It would take an honest-sounding statement that he thought that everybody would understand that installing packages might be not only unsafe but actually insecure, and also a very good explanation of why he – or someone giving him orders – thought it was absolutely necessary to be so cryptic. It would be You do not have the all the facts yet you feel free to pass judgement. Calling Paul Frields a liar is out of line and you know it, we have no idea what constraints he may be operating under. Your statement above strikes me as naive and dishonest. You had no idea there was a security issue? It was the first thing to cross my mind when I first saw the announcement. What else could it have been? Why else the cryptic message? No, it strikes me that you are being dishonest with yourself first and foremost. From what little I can glean from mail sent to this list you do not strike me as a fool, is it just frustration at the situation? This is understandable but it does not give you leave to accuse people of being deceitful. dishonest to apologize before I'm convinced. Björn Persson -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: FC9 NetworkManager & WPA
Devon Harding wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 1:13 PM, max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Devon Harding wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM, max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Devon Harding wrote: 2008/8/23 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Saturday 23 August 2008 16:26:06 Devon Harding wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Brian Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Devon, Make sure you have the wpa_supplicant package installed. The wpa_supplicant package is installed (and the update). When I select my wireless from the drop down list, it still asks for a WEP key instead of a WPA key. Do I need the wpa_supplicant_gui package too? I see the same behaviour on my EeePC. It does no harm, but it's b** annoying. (I presume that, like me, you can use the drop-down arrow to select WPA then manually give it the passphrase?) Anne The thing is, WPA is not one of the choices. I only have the following: WEP 128-bit Passphrase WEP 40/128-bit Hexadecimal WEP 40/128-bit ASCII LEAP Dynamic WEP (802.1x) Have you tried an older kernel? I have seen some weird stuff with wireless on the latest but it may be something else going on there. What kind of wireless device are you working with? -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- I tried Ubuntu (Hardy) and got the same thing. If I choose 'Connect to other wireless network' I do see the option for WPA, but it doesn't seems to connect to my access point. -Devon But what wireless card are you using? I suspect your problem may be there, its a possibility to explore anyway. from a terminal as root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lspci -v it will produce a lot of output , look for the wireless device it should be obviously labeled Here's the output: 00:12.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01) Subsystem: Fujitsu Limited. Unknown device 1169 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9 Memory at e8013000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 Kernel driver in use: hostap_pci Kernel modules: orinoco_pci, hostap_pci Some googling around shows you are not the only one with an issue with this particular chipset. It says its using the hostap_pci driver but lists orinco_pci and hostap_pci as modules. I am thinking that perhaps both are getting loaded and its unclear to me if you actually need both it could be that hostap_pci depends on the orinco_pci. Lets see if we can find out. Try this as root: lsmod | grep orinco_pci lsmod | grep hostap_pci A generic example of what I mean: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lsmod | grep sata_nv sata_nv31624 3 libata149664 4 pata_amd,sata_nv,pata_acpi,ata_generic libata is used by sata_nv and others so if I tried to unload libata I would run into a dependency issue See what the commands return and post here. You may also want to check dmesg for output related to your wireless device. Something like this from a terminal as root: dmesg Will dump more than you need or you can refine your search with grep dmesg | grep dmesg | grep -i * the -i option makes it case insensitive see man page for more detail or the info page dmesg | grep 00:12.0*may provide us with meaningful output -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: FC9 NetworkManager & WPA
Devon Harding wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM, max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Devon Harding wrote: 2008/8/23 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Saturday 23 August 2008 16:26:06 Devon Harding wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Brian Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Devon, Make sure you have the wpa_supplicant package installed. The wpa_supplicant package is installed (and the update). When I select my wireless from the drop down list, it still asks for a WEP key instead of a WPA key. Do I need the wpa_supplicant_gui package too? I see the same behaviour on my EeePC. It does no harm, but it's b** annoying. (I presume that, like me, you can use the drop-down arrow to select WPA then manually give it the passphrase?) Anne The thing is, WPA is not one of the choices. I only have the following: WEP 128-bit Passphrase WEP 40/128-bit Hexadecimal WEP 40/128-bit ASCII LEAP Dynamic WEP (802.1x) Have you tried an older kernel? I have seen some weird stuff with wireless on the latest but it may be something else going on there. What kind of wireless device are you working with? -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- I tried Ubuntu (Hardy) and got the same thing. If I choose 'Connect to other wireless network' I do see the option for WPA, but it doesn't seems to connect to my access point. -Devon But what wireless card are you using? I suspect your problem may be there, its a possibility to explore anyway. from a terminal as root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lspci -v it will produce a lot of output , look for the wireless device it should be obviously labeled -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: FC9 NetworkManager & WPA
Devon Harding wrote: 2008/8/23 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Saturday 23 August 2008 16:26:06 Devon Harding wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Brian Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Devon, Make sure you have the wpa_supplicant package installed. The wpa_supplicant package is installed (and the update). When I select my wireless from the drop down list, it still asks for a WEP key instead of a WPA key. Do I need the wpa_supplicant_gui package too? I see the same behaviour on my EeePC. It does no harm, but it's b** annoying. (I presume that, like me, you can use the drop-down arrow to select WPA then manually give it the passphrase?) Anne The thing is, WPA is not one of the choices. I only have the following: WEP 128-bit Passphrase WEP 40/128-bit Hexadecimal WEP 40/128-bit ASCII LEAP Dynamic WEP (802.1x) Have you tried an older kernel? I have seen some weird stuff with wireless on the latest but it may be something else going on there. What kind of wireless device are you working with? -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to search the Fedora List
Paul Smith wrote: 2008/8/22 Renich Bon Ciric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'd use the fedora crawler http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=011057779923588025604%3Aakrqpglozlu Can one sort by date the results of a search with Fedora Crawler? Paul I did a simple query like this: yum jul 2008 It pulled up pages that show a last modified of Jul 2008. Seems to work well. -Max -- Fortune favors the *BOLD* -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to search the Fedora List
Renich Bon Ciric wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 09:41 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Searching the Fedora List came up in another thread. I thought this important enough information to have a thread of its own. See web link below: http://marc.info/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2 -- === The trouble with computers is that they do what you tell them, not what you want. -- D. Cohen === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd use the fedora crawler http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=011057779923588025604%3Aakrqpglozlu Contributors are welcome. Nice. Thanks for the tip I hadn't seen this before. -Max -- Fortune favors the *BOLD* -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox-3.0.1 can't find Bookmarks
Jim wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 14:43 -0400, Jim wrote: FC9, Firefox-3.0.1 The Bookmarks I moved into .mozillia/firefox-default folder from another box and Firefox-3. I do not have this folder. There are bookmark backup files buried in the .mozilla folder though perhaps you need to delete them. The bookmarks I put on my laptop in .mozillia/firefox-default folder can't be read by Firefox-3 , even if I do a "import" of Bookmarks it can't find any Bookmarks, I have a copy in my /home/user directory. It still is reading the old Bookmark file that I deleted from .mozillia/Firefox-default folder That's three times you typed ".mozillia" instead of ".mozilla". Could that be your problem? poc NO!! -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530)
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:10:08 +, g wrote: marcelo, michael, rodger, after reading in a previous post that 'infrastructure' hit news announcements on, of all places, zdnet, Those vague announcements deserved such publicity. I would have been surprised if the press had not covered those "issues". Yes I would have to agree, its actually in the best interests of everyone that they do get covered. I don't like being kept in the dark anymore than the rest but I don't think its unreasonable to do what can be done i.e. use the tools available to make a determination if your compromised or not and then wait and see what the Infrastructure Team has to say when all is said and done. At this point it seems they will have no choice but to release some statement or another, whether or not it satisfies people is going to be another matter entirely. The last thing I want is for them to be rushed to a wrong conclusion because everyone is impatient for any answer, I'd prefer the right(by which I mean honest and truthful) answer that has been arrived at after all investigations have been carried to conclusion. Speculation will get us nowhere. What works on that other OS would have a hard time succeeding on a properly administered Linux box but that just means using unconventional methods to do it instead. A task that would be both more difficult and more rewarding for the attacker not to mention harder to detect and of course harder to investigate for the victim. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: arping
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 18:25 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 15:59 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 23:01 +0930, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 13:30 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: Is there any arping available for a FC7 ? I don't have 7 installed on anything, anymore, but 9 has two arping commands. One in /sbin/ the other in /usr/sbin/. Neither of which is in the search path for ordinary users. Try looking for yours in there. But only /sbin/arping is used by default. So it is strange that there are two of them. One is a symlink to the other. poc That does answer the question of why there are two of them. There aren't two of them as he said one is a symlink, the symlink in /usr/sbin points to the arping in /sbin. It is essentially a shortcut, like a desktop short cut that starts for example firefox. Its not actually the program but a pointer to the file you want to execute. As to why there is a symlink which seems to be your question, because some other program or programs are coded to expect arping to be in /usr/sbin rather than sbin so the symlink was created to satisfy this dependency or the other programs would fail to find it and as a result fail to execute as expected. -Max -- We can alter our perception of time, the importance of this fact seems to be beyond the grasp of the majority -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Googlesmithing for beginnners
Dave Burns wrote: I was inspired by this post to add a firefox search engine customized to just search the fedora users archive. Instead I found one (by searching at http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=+fedora) that searches the 'fedora forum' at http://fedoraforum.org/forum/. Seems to have different content as https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ , guess I should not be surprised. Does anyone know a really handy way to search the archives? Googling by hand with site:https://www.redhat.com/archives as one of the terms will do it, but awkwardly. The handiest way I have really found is to search your own archive, if you keep one, , I use this as an alternative since my archive is rather small in the grand scheme of things. You could search here: http://marc.info/ -Max Seems like it ought to be easier than this. Guess I should rtfm at mycroft and get the job done. Thanks, Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Googlesmithing for beginnners
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 16:13 -0400, max wrote: Say you want to search for Han Solo and Chewbacca. Try this in your search field: Han Solo +Chewbacca You mean: "Han Solo" +Chewbacca otherwise "Han" and "Solo" will match separately (not that it's likely to matter in this case). In fact: Yes it didn't matter but you are correct. "Han Solo" Chewbacca would do exactly the same thing, since "Chewbacca" is not a common term (such as "a", "the", "and" etc.) which would otherwise be supressed. poc Yes in this case the plus sign does little, the imagination is key here to get the most out of your search, it was just the first thing that came to mind and it was simple. Usually I have found the minus sign to be more useful. I didn't mention the suppression of common terms , thanks for pointing that out. -Max -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530
Steve Repo wrote: If only all the sysadmins in the world had the time to check on each system and every packet on the network! Try looking for a needle in a haysack? Sure but I would assume, wrongly it seems, that a good admin has taken the time to establish some sort of baseline for the network. If you monitor traffic once in a while and know what is going on the task is certainly manageable. You don't need to necessarily monitor every box or even everything getting onto the network just the outbound traffic if that's all you have time for. Certainly not a small task but you should be able to reasonably sift through it if you've monitored the network over a period of time and understand what is normal for your network and what is not. If you haven't then I would suggest starting now. The filters on wireshark are damn good and once you learn what is more or less normal for your network then spotting oddities is easier. Of course you'll ultimately have to rely a lot on your own judgement but there are many tools to help monitor network activity. Nagios is one, hobbit is another if memory serves, there is whois for checking who ip may belong to. The least fedora could have done is give some suggestions to users on how to take precautions if this is really a security issue which seems quite obvious now since it's been days and everyone is in the dark I am not sure how to respond to the above except to say that I don't think fedora expects to have to manage your machines for you. Rather than have you get insulted, which is probably unavoidable at this point, and start a flame war about what fedora should and shouldn't do maybe we can discuss some of the things to do to secure a network and how to proceed if you *suspect* you have a compromised box or two online. Where are all those oldtime admins? how about schooling us youngsters on proper procedure instead of watching another thread descend into pointless bickering. -Max -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Matthew Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:09:09PM -0400, max wrote: >>> I wondered that, too. The original posting was too vague. You can't >>> tell if they're just fixing a fault, or sorting out an attack. >> Assume the latter and act accordingly. > > Like, how? Quick, switch everything to another distro? We don't know enough > to act reasonably. > Like keep your eyes open for anything unusual at the least. Do a little packet sniffing just to see if there is any unusual traffic...I mean take sensible precautions, run chrootkit and rkhunter, run clam, obviously you aren't going to blow away boxes on a whim but it pays to be aware of what transpires on your network. I thought that is what sysadmins were suppossed to do, be aware of what's going on with the network. -Max -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Where the h%^&^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II
Antonio Olivares wrote:
Keep it up guys - I am one who does appreciate how things
move forward.
I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at a comfort level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE 3.5.X, but it is working better and it is coming around.
Of course anyone who really cannot wait for KDE4.1+ can
always opt to pay
for MS products if they think that is a better option!
Nah, why pay for them, when you can get them for free^{1}.
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{1} via bitorrent, cracked versions of windows. Still seems like the original
and works like the original, just is not the original, but it will work!
Cracked versions can include software you wouldn't want running on your
network.
-Max
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Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530
Tim wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 15:13 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: So, is it safe to apply updates? I wondered that, too. The original posting was too vague. You can't tell if they're just fixing a fault, or sorting out an attack. Assume the latter and act accordingly. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: laptop keyboard soaked by a soft drink!
bruce wrote: Hi max... I'd be inclined to feel the same way as you, except that I was using the keyboard/system for a few hours after the spill, with all the keys working (although the space key was sticky). It wasn't until I did the water rinse that I got the issue with keys not working... I sussepct that if I had kept on using the box, it would have kept working... Although, i'm also inclined to think the box might eventually be toast... Thanks One of the common misconceptions is that if the hardware is faulty it won't work at all or if I spill something on it and it keeps working then all is well. It is certainly possible that that can be true but I have seen exactly what is happening to you, it works then fails outright or at intervals, its directly related to the spill, based on your statements so far I have no doubt of that and the boot issue is further proof. It may continue to work or it may not or it will work intermittently and fail randomly. Backup anything you can't stand to lose now. -Max -- I shall not fear, fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear, I will allow my fear to pass over and through me. When my fear has passed I will turn my inner eye to mark its path and there will be nothing and only I will remain. --Frank Herbert from Dune -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: laptop keyboard soaked by a soft drink!
bruce wrote: Hey guys... Screwed up and spilled a soft drink on my laptop keyboard (toshiba satellite). The keyboard was working, but sticky, so I decided to remove the keyboard and rinse it in distilled water and let it thoroughly dry in the hot sun. Long story short, some of the keys are no longer working... Looks like I'm going to have to order a new/replacement keyboard. Any thoughts on what direction I might take on this. Oh, by the way, when I boot up the system, the system gives an alert, doesn't go through the CD/HDrive process. When I select the HD from the boot process the system boots up... I can deal with this though, as I don't boot the laptop that often.. Any thoughts on the keyboard issue would be useful. Thanks Cleaning the keyboard is unlikely to be much help at this point. Keyboards are cheap anyway. I would be more concerned by how much soda hit the motherboard and you can be sure that some did, I would refrain from turning it on until I took it apart and very carefully located and cleaned all the soft drink out, just look for the sticky parts, it may well be that nothing is actually wrong with your keyboard but that what your are seeing is board failure, the laptops days likely are numbered. It sounds like you don't want to hear it but that is the reality of the situation. OTOH i was using a laptop that had beer spilled on it for awhile, the keyboard failed intermittently , the touchpad didn't work at all, i attached an eternal keyboard and mouse to get around that but it would overheat and lockup after a few hours of use. It did however work fairly well until it overheated, by which I mean it randomly did weird stuff but it wasn't bad enough to make it completely useless. -Max -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
