Re: installation from boot.iso on a usb stick

2010-01-10 Thread Mike Cloaked



Andras Simon wrote:
> 
> Is this possible? Or only the live cd can be transferred to a usb drive?
> 
> I like what
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ch-new-users.html#sn-which-files
> says about installing from boot.iso, but if that requires a "real cd",
> then I won't be able to do it.
> 
> 

Worth having a look at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#How_to_Make_a_bootable_USB_Drive_to_Install_Fedora_11_instead_of_using_a_physical_DVD


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Re: firefox disk IO

2010-01-05 Thread Mike Cloaked



Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> 
> 
>>> I have seen that in the past.  I'm not sure what improved things for
>>> me; maybe the two block options you mentioned.  You may also want to
>>> try cleaning up your database files, as described here:
>>>
>>> http://garmahis.com/tips/how-to-speed-up-firefox-by-cleaning-its-databases/
>>>
> 
> 

There is a neat extension that does the vacuuming at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13878

and can be set to do it periodically for you.
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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Mail Lists  sapience.com> writes:

> 
>  Actually chrome is way faster, more secure and takes way way less
> memory - I suspect firefox usage will slowly tail off much like netscape
> did in the past - as chrome takes over .. it is so so much better ...
> even in its beta form.
> 
>  I'd focus your energies there were I you ...
> 

Yes Chrome has much promise especially as it is webkit based and not gecko 
based.

Chrome still has issues to resolve - like it does not do rss feeds, and 
reloading
a page often won't reload and you have to clear the browser history.

However it does have things that Firefox does not - like speed, and separated
processes for each tab - the latter is very fundamentally better than the way
Firefox works - 

It time I agree that it does look as though Chrome may well win - if the Firefox
developers don't pay attention to the competition - and gecko is not the way 
forward - webkit is!


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Re: kdm crash with wrong password

2009-12-31 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mail Lists-3 wrote:
> 
> On 12/31/2009 01:25 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
>> I believe that this relates to 
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506171
>> 
>> So this bug is not resolved despite the implication in the last post on
>> the
>> bz!
> 
> 
>   Obviously if bugs are closed, then there must be less bugs no ;-)
> 
> 

I could have sworn I saw your left eye twitch just then!
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Re: kdm crash with wrong password

2009-12-31 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> I am following up on this issue concerning entering the wrong password
> into kdm which then crashes - this problem is still there - today on a
> fully up to date f11 system one of our family entered the password wong
> and kdm or X crashed - 
> 
> I am surprised this bug has not been sorted out by now - the posts that
> relate to this were from the end of October!
> 

I believe that this relates to 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506171

So this bug is not resolved despite the implication in the last post on the
bz!
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kdm crash with wrong password

2009-12-31 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Bugzilla from gabriello.rami...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> in the above case, maybe her mistyped her password in one ocassion  and
>> when typed it correctly , the machine got the following bug
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506171  " If password
>> entered incorrectly in KDM, next successful login causes X server
>> shutdown and hang  "
>> 
>> maybe you can try to mistype your password and enter correctly with
>> kernel 2.6.30.8-64 to discard kernel-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686.PAE as the
>> cause
>> 
>> 
> 
> For your first comment about the response of the system to a mistyped
> password in kdm I was not aware of - I'll ask if this it was a second
> login attempt when I talk to her later - and yes i do have kdm as the
> login manager. The status of the bz you referred to linked to an upstream
> bug which has not had any reply since the end of August!
> 
> 

I am following up on this issue concerning entering the wrong password into
kdm which then crashes - this problem is still there - today on a fully up
to date f11 system one of our family entered the password wong and kdm or X
crashed - 

I am surprised this bug has not been sorted out by now - the posts that
relate to this were from the end of October!
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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Cloaked
Paulo Cavalcanti  gmail.com> writes:

> 
>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-December/msg01138.html--
Paulo Roma CavalcantiLCG - UFRJ
> 

Ahh - thank you - there is usually a good reason for these things...




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Re: list server got slower ?

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Cloaked
Mail Lists  sapience.com> writes:

> 
> On 12/28/2009 02:46 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> 
>  Good points ...
> 

All very well - but the fact remains that for a user like me the list is the
primary method of discussion about Fedora issues, fixes, workarounds etc.
and I would like to see a timely server response - certainly it did not
used to be like this with slow response.

Maybe when the lists move to their new servers around 9th January 2010 
then perhaps the servers will be tuned to deal with posts in a timely fashion?




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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Cloaked
Mail Lists  sapience.com> writes:

> 
> On 12/29/2009 07:54 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> > How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are
> > there issues merging it?
> > It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't
> > see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month...
> > 
> 
>  Its not even in Koji ... unfortunately .. tho you may want to  post
> this in fedora-dev or fedora-test rather than the "Community assistance,
> encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. list ... 
> 

It looks like the kernel guys have been on a Christmas break - there are no
kernel builds at all in koji since the 24th  maybe they will return with
replenished New Year vigour and push out .32 for f11 and f12 before we can blink
an eye! (Well we can hope anyway!)



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Re: User image for "About me" in taskbar in f12?

2009-12-26 Thread Mike Cloaked
Richard Shaw  gmail.com> writes:


> > So what next to look at?
> 
> Have you checked the permissions of the .face file?
> 

-rw-r--r--. mike mike unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_t:s0 .face

What next?


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Re: User image for "About me" in taskbar in f12?

2009-12-25 Thread Mike Cloaked



Tim-163 wrote:
> 
> 
> And are the directory permissions world executable, too?
> 
> NB:  I'm just making educated assumptions about the permissions, as I
> haven't looked at the newer Fedora release yet, and read about this kind
> of issue some time ago.  I elected not to bother with faces in the
> chooser, as I want user spaces with only personal access.
> 
> 

World executable - yes already are

So what next to look at?
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Re: User image for "About me" in taskbar in f12?

2009-12-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Tim-163 wrote:
> 
> 
> In the past, and it may be your problem now, that issue has arose when
> the user pictures are stored in their own directories, and their
> homespace has permissions that doesn't allow access to other users,
> likewise for child directories and the image file, itself.  For GDM (and
> most probably KDM, too), it's a special user that runs the login screen.
> 
> 

All the image  files and the directories that hold them have read permission
for everybody - what else needs to be changed?
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User image for "About me" in taskbar in f12?

2009-12-23 Thread Mike Cloaked
I have more than one machine running f12 - I use the gnome desktop with kdm as 
the login manager.

The machines run fine with one small slight irritation - on the taskbar as has 
been usual in gnome it is possible to select an image when you right click the 
username and click the image at the top left of the window that opens. However 
this image is not seen when you close the personal details window. Also the 
same 
avatar should appear in the kdm greeter screen alongside the username to select 
to login - but in f12 it does not appear to do so.

In f11 with the same process I do get the image displayed on the taskbar next 
to 
the username in gnome, and also in the kdm greeter screen.  In my f12 machines 
although the image looks just fine within the personal details window, it does 
not appear on the taskbar or in the kdm greeter.

Does anyone else see this ? Was there a policy change that is in place for f12? 
Am I doing something dumb and if so what should I do to get the behaviour that 
I 
would like for this?

Thanks

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Re: chromium from spot crashes

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Cloaked



Neal Becker wrote:
> 
>  Since today's update to 
> chromium-4.0.273.0-0.1.20091216svn34775.fc12.x86_64
> 
> chromium-browser crashes on every startup.  Where to report?
> 
> 

I found I had an SElinux issue but as root I did:
chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/chromium-browser/*.so

then restarting chromium and it worked OK...
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Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-19 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> This is not directly related to the dovecot imap server that you will have
> set up on your own machine. You can get Thunderbird to (separately)
> connect to you own imap server if you set up a "local" imap account
> pointing to 127.0.0.1 and have the dovecot service running locally (i.e.
> make sure that as root "dovecot service start", and "chkconfig dovecot on"
> to start it at boot - and check that the service is running by "service
> dovecot status")
> 
> 

Sorry there was a typo  in the above should have been "service dovecot
start" and not "dovecot service start" !!
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Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-19 Thread Mike Cloaked



Bob Goodwin-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok, I've installed Dovecot, made some changes to the config. file
> and started it. Then told gmail I wanted to "enable" IMAP. Although
> I have a "wildblue" address they gave up their mail servers and
> shunted everyone over to google! Not the best deal for users perhaps
> but I had no choice. Rural users are stuck without CATV or Telco DSL
> internet service so the satellite providers have no competition.
> 
> Anyway now that I've done this the system is dumping everything it
> has on me, presently 4091 trash files! Hopefully that is all,
> probably ~7k messages in total.
> 
> I still don't understand how this works but I will in pretty short
> order I guess? Where are these messages being saved? On my F-12
> computer somewhere in Dovecot I hope.
> 
> What do I have to configure in another computer to access the IMAP
> messages? Do I simply add an IMAP user to Thunderbird, the email
> program I have been using for some time. If the messages are stored
> in my computer, other computers need to look there and connect via
> my LAN [wired and wireless]. I'm already in over my head despite
> reading a lot of instructions on how to set this up!.
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
> 

When you told gmail that you want to access it via imap then you presumably
set up an imap gmail account in Thunderbird?   What this then will do is to
get the mail client (Thunderbird) to access gmail via the imap server held
at gmail.

This is not directly related to the dovecot imap server that you will have
set up on your own machine. You can get Thunderbird to (separately) connect
to you own imap server if you set up a "local" imap account pointing to
127.0.0.1 and have the dovecot service running locally (i.e. make sure that
as root "dovecot service start", and "chkconfig dovecot on" to start it at
boot - and check that the service is running by "service dovecot status")

Now when you start Thunderbird with both the gmail imap account as well as
the local imap account defined within Thunderbird then you will see two sets
of mail but at this stage the only mail that you will see populated is the
gmail account.  i.e. Thunderbird as email client, is making connections to
two independent imap servers - one at gmail and the other in your local
machine.

If you wish you can then copy mail from the gmail server to your own dovecot
server, either manually or by setting up local filter rules within
Thunderbird.  You can set rules up to make copies of all mail at gmail onto
your local imap server from within Thunderbird so that each time Thunderbird
checks for new mail at gmail it will copy to your local server.

You configure the rules in which ever way is most convenient for you. 
However once this is all done then you can start a different mail client
(such as Evolution for example) and set up a local imap account which will
then see any email that is already stored (and handled) by dovecot locally. 
You can of course also set it up to look at gmail and transfer files to the
local imap if you wish - and then run either mail client whenever you feel
like it, and use the best facilities of the one you are running at any time.

So re-capping:
1) Set up local imap server - dovecot.
2) Set up email client eg Thunderbird and/or Evolution and/or kmail etc with
each email client having an account pointing to any mail servers where you
have email - one account may be gmail, another your local dovecot imap, and
you may have a yahoo account or others as well
3) Set up filter rules to copy mail from one or other of these servers to
any of the others - each "account" set up in an email client points to a
different server.

One possible use is when your isp runs only a pop3 mail server - you can get
your Thunderbird to connect to that but then to copy mail from that server
to  your local server and then any other mail client can see the same emails
by pointing them to the local dovecot imap server.

I hope this helps


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flash-plugin update and f11

2009-12-16 Thread Mike Cloaked
Recently there was a flash-plugin update available 
to flash-plugin-10.0.42.34-release.i386

After updating I noticed that Firefox was showing the new version as well as the
old version in Tools-Add-ons and selecting the plugins tab.

I initially disabled the old version but then found that Youtube and other
videos would not play in Firefox.

After a lot of messing about I found a workaround - 

yum remove nspluginwrapper flash-plugin
followed by
yum install nspluginwrapper flash-plugin

Now I only see one version of the flash-plugin in the plugins tab, and also
about:plugins only shows a single version of shockwave flash with the info:
File name: nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42

So this appears to work - presumably similar workarounds may be needed for f12?
Analogous for 64 bit also I guess?

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Re: Someone was able to hack my mail account

2009-12-11 Thread Mike Cloaked



Peter Boy wrote:
> 
> Am Freitag, den 11.12.2009, 05:50 -0500 schrieb kevin:
>> I am just glad the spammer sent the mail to me and not a million people.
> 
> The spammer propably will have sent the spam to million people (your
> address is just one of those), using your address as sender but sending
> it from various bot neted computers. In this case you will get all the
> bounced mails a target system sends to the perceived sender (you).
> 
> 

Now wouldn't it be nice if DKIM filters were in widespread use - then this
kind of problem would be a thing of the past!
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Re: Problem with thunderbird message filters

2009-12-09 Thread Mike Cloaked



Joachim Backes wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I'm running the actual thunderbird (thunderbird-3.0b4) on F12.
> 
> Having two accounts (1 IMAP, I POP), and I want to move all incoming 
> emails for account-#2 (POP) to the IMAP-Inbox. So I made a filter with 
> one entry: "Match all messages" as search criteria, and "move to 
> IMAP-Inbox" as action.
> 
> But this filter seems not to run, and when opening the error console 
> window, I find a lot of messages:
> 
> 

I had a lot of issues with b4 - so I installed the nightly version  from the
tarball and ran that instead. Things are a lot smoother now - 3.0.1pre
nightly works generally very well - provided you can configure things the
way you want (I turned off GLODA and got rid of smart folders and then
things improved) 
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Re: F12 Wireless disabled with kernel 2.6.31.6-162

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Cloaked



John W. Linville-2 wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:32:01PM -0800, Richard England wrote:
>> pro/wireless 2200BG in a Dell Latitude D410. F12 Fully updated (as of 7 
>> December).
>> 
>> With Kernel 2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686  the wireless is completely 
>> disabled.  This was the latest kernel installed.
>> 
>> Backing down to kernel 2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686  everything returns to 
>> normal.  This was the immediately preceding kernel I had.
>> 
>> Any one confirm this?  I looked for a BZ entry but I'm notoriously bad 
>> at finding things there
> 
> I'm running F12 on an T41 equipped with ipw2200.  Perhaps you could
> describe the problem more thoroughly (and/or open a bugzilla entry)?
> 
> 

I have iwl4965 running fine with the same kernel in a Dell M4300 - 
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Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?

2009-11-28 Thread Mike Cloaked



Hiisi wrote:
> 
> 2009/11/28 Paul Smith :
>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Hiisi  wrote:
> <--SNIP-->
>>> Can you, virtualisation gurus, point me out how to set up shared
>>> folder in VirtualBox for guest Window$ XP? It looks like an easy task
>>> but I'm unable to see it anywhere from within guest system.
>>
>> You just need to install Guest Additions:
> 
> 

Interesting replies - thank you - but noticeable that the fedora provided
facility of kvm has been mentioned by no-one!

Additionally can you experts tell me whether you can use usbkeys in the VM,
and also whether or not there is communication out of the VM onto the
network interface?  

Another point I am interested in is whether it is possible to drop a file
using the desktop file manager gui from Fedora into the XP VM window and
open the file in an app within the XP VM?  I am thinking of, for example,
taking a Word file and dropping it into the XP VM so that it opens in Word
2003, say, and has the full Windows edit facilities.  Or similar for an
excel file and have it utilise the Solver macro, or Analysis package within
the XP environment - so that if someone sends such a file in email then you
can get it from the email attachment in Fedora to the running application in
the VM in an easy way?

I'd like to know what the limits are for using the VM before going down the
road of setting it all up.

Additionally if anyone has used kvm how does qemu feature in this scheme -
is it needed at all for running an XP VM?

I can see that VirtualBox is recommended by people who have used it but I
would like to be able to compare VirtualBox with KVM in terms of not only
ease of setting up, but also performance and usability once it is set up.

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Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?

2009-11-28 Thread Mike Cloaked
Can someone point me to a good step by step howto to set up Windows XP installed
from an iso in a VM in F12 using kvm.  There are some XP applications that only
work in XP itself rather than in wine or Crossover.

I have not tinkered with virtualised machines before so this is a learning curve
for me.

I did see the http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ guide on virtualization but there
seems to be quite a number of changes in the details of what is presented on
screen when starting to install a new VM on my screen compared to what is in the
guide. The laptop in which I want to do this does have the virtualisation flags
so in principle it should be possible.

It is not clear where the virtualised machine would get installed by default -
but it looks like it would be in /var/lib/libvirt/images which is on the root
partition in my case so I made a new directory in a bigger partition with plenty
of space, and bind mounted it ahead of trying to create a new VM.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?

2009-11-27 Thread Mike Cloaked



Tim-163 wrote:
> 
> 
> We had the smolt thing that sends a hardware report off to a database.
> There's a certain presumption that regular monthly updates by your
> client indicates that your hardware does actually work.
> 
> See:  http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/ (and don't forget to have a look
> at the various statistics).
> 
> 

Indeed and a minute ago I notice that currently the OS page shows F11 50.7%
and F12 11.6% - I wonder if the ratio of F12 to F11 users will change
markedly over the next month?
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f12 user pics in gnome and kdm?

2009-11-25 Thread Mike Cloaked

Running kdm as the login manager, and gnome as the desktop - I have changed
my userpic under preferences in gnome and the image fails to show up next to
my username in the desktop.

Similarly after logging in to kde and going to the login manager settings
and adding a userpic to my username - no picture appears next to me username
in the kdm greeter in f12.

Both these work fine in f11 - can anyone point me to a workaround?

Thanks
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Re: RPM Fusion free and nonfree repositories for Fedora 12 (Constantine) now available

2009-11-17 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>> 
>> The RPM Fusion team is proud to announce the public availability of our
>> ''free'' and ''nonfree'' package repositories for Fedora 12
>> (Constantine). The repositories contain multimedia applications, kernel
>> drivers, games and other software the Fedora Project doesn't want to ship
>> for various reasons.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Is it just my inability to see the detail or are the kmod-nvidia drivers
> not yet available?
> 

I see that they are still in testing - 

http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/updates/testing/12/i386/
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Re: RPM Fusion free and nonfree repositories for Fedora 12 (Constantine) now available

2009-11-17 Thread Mike Cloaked



Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> The RPM Fusion team is proud to announce the public availability of our
> ''free'' and ''nonfree'' package repositories for Fedora 12 (Constantine).
> The repositories contain multimedia applications, kernel drivers, games
> and other software the Fedora Project doesn't want to ship for various
> reasons.
> 
> 

Is it just my inability to see the detail or are the kmod-nvidia drivers not
yet available?
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Re: Samsung CLX-3170 Scanner Setup

2009-11-05 Thread Mike Cloaked
Jim  sbcglobal.net> writes:

> 
> FC11-X86_64/KDE.
> 
> How do I setup a Samsung CLX-3170 Scanner in FC11 ?
> 

> # sane-find-scanner
> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04e8 [Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.], 
> product=0x342a [CLX-3170 Series]) at libusb:002:002
> 

I found some advice on the web for my Samsung machine (not the same as yours
 but a corresponding approach may work) - 

Written up at http://userbase.kde.org/Troubleshooting/Samsung_scx-4500W#Scanning

Just a chance this may help?



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Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Mikkel  infinity-ltd.com> writes:

> Depending on the hardware, it may retaining settings during a
> reboot, but not when you power off the machine, and then power it up
> again. This can sometimes cause strange problems. This is especially
> true when booting a different operating system with out powering off
> the machine.
> 
> There are also two ways to reboot a machine without powering it off.
> The "warm" boot does not normally re-initialize the hardware. A
> "cold" boot does run the initialization routines routines, but the
> hardware may not be properly initialized.
> 
> Mikkel

Yes indeed - in my case it was a Logitech Cordless Mouse - I don't know if
in this case changing BIOS settings would have helped - however even after
a shutdown and power off, and then booting from scratch now gives mouse input
that is properly recognised without the need to pull and replug the usb
connector.



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Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Aioanei Rares  gmail.com> writes:
 
> Please explain what do you mean by 'different effect' and how is the hw 
> reset by rebooting vs cold boot
> 

OK - when I first came across this problem - it was when I shutdown the machine
i.e. to the point where the machine was powered off.

a) then if I pushed the power button on the computer to boot it, then nothing
I did would allow the mouse input to be recognised
both at the kdm greeter, and if I then used keyboard input alone to log in, 
then also in the logged in gnome desktop the mouse was not recognised.

b) However, if I then pulled out the usb plug for the mouse sender, and plugged 
it back in then the mouse input was recognised properly.

c) If at that point I selected reboot from the logged in desktop, then after 
rebooting, the mouse would be recognised at both the kdm greeter screen and
also at the logged in desktop. This reboot keeps the power on and the fans
running during the shutdown and subsequent reboot.

If at that point I shutdown and powered off.  Then pushed the power button to 
start the machine then I would be back to a) above



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Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Aioanei Rares  gmail.com> writes:

> It is often a good idea to reboot after important updates...
> 

Of course and indeed I HAD rebooted after each set of updates - the difference 
is
that if you power off and reboot then there is hardware resetting that is
different to rebooting but leaving the power on!

Today was the first time I shutdown AND powered off. Then started from cold.
This has a different effect to simply asking for a re-boot but leaving the power
running during the shutdown and subsequent re-boot.



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Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Aioanei Rares  gmail.com> writes:
 
> Less likely, better check your /var/log/messages file for something related.
> 

Well I just switched off the machine in question and booted from a cold start.
The problem that was there consistently in the past seems to have gone away.
The mouse now gets recognised immediately that the kdm greeter starts.
I presume that a fix was done in an update at some point - but due the problem
being there I had only rebooted without powering off and back on for a month or
two however certainly it was as I reported until a few weeks ago.



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Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> 
> Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Mikkel  wrote:
>>> Marcel Rieux wrote:
 Oh, oh! I had a USB keyboard when I installed but I now have a
 keyboard with a round plug. So, I tried to enable legacy support as
 Mikkel suggested, but I can't access the BIOS.

>>> You do not need legacy support for the PS2 keyboard. (The round
>>> plug.) Legacy support makes a USB keyboard look like a PS2 keyboard
>>> to the system. The fact that you had a USB keyboard when you
>>> installed should not make a difference.
> 
> 

Here is an interesting problem that links with this thread.

I have one machine that is around 6 years old on which I have f11 working
perfectly well (previously it was f10 ) but one issue still remains.  
Plugged into a rear usb port is the sender for a radio mouse. The mouse has
newish batteries and works fine with everything running and powered up.  

However if i power the machine off, and then restart the machine (Dell
Dimension 2400 desktop) the screen is unresponsive to the mouse movement or
buttons unless I unplug the radio sender that is plugged into the usb port,
and reconnect it.  Immediately the mouse then works as normal!!  I seem to
remember that this was the case when I installed f11 also - in that I booted
the install media and the mouse failed to respond at the graphical install
stage until I unplugged and replugged the radio sender.  Is it likely that
this is a BIOS setting issue as well?
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Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - RESOLVED

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Cloaked



Ed Greshko wrote:
> 
> 
>> hardly surprising at all...consumer grade SATA hard drives have become
>> unreliable and that is why none of the manufacturer's warranties them
>> beyond a year now.
>>
>>   
> Really?  All of my Seagate drives that I purchase here in Taiwan have 3
> year warranties.
> 
> 

Yeah - well guess which make I just put in?  Seagate Barracuda - the old
dead one was Samsung HD321KJ - so I can look forward to 3 years of reliable
service minimum!

Problem is that when you buy a new machine you don't have control over which
make of drive is in it unless you know something I don't!
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Re: Why should a machine not boot liveCD if HD fails?

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Cloaked



Ted Roche-2 wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Mike Cloaked 
> wrote:
>> why would a computer with a failed SATA hard
>> drive be unable to boot from a liveDVD in the optical drive?
> 
> Perhaps the machine's BIOS was not configured to boot from the optical
> drive.
> 
> 

No - what I have done for a long time is set it to boot from HD but when
starting the boot process, like many machines you can hit F12 and select
which device to boot from - that is how I do many processes like
partitioning etc 

In fact with no alteration in the BIOS settings at all - once the new HD was
in place I interrupted the boot with F12 and selected the optical drive to
start PartedMagic from the liveDVD  - exactly this process worked once the
new drive was in place where it failed to do so with the dead HD in place -
that is something I never experienced before.

Clearly whatever had failed in the drive did something really bad to the
system so that booting from the other drive would not work - that was why it
was such as nasty failure - and led me to believe that it was more than just
a bad HD - maybe others have had something similar?

Anyway f11 is now running on the machine in question and it is doing its
long yum update as I write this... 
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Why should a machine not boot liveCD if HD fails?

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Cloaked

In the past few days as some will know from a previous thread I had a total
failure of a machine that is now resolved after replacing the hard drive -
however one thing puzzles me - why would a computer with a failed SATA hard
drive be unable to boot from a liveDVD in the optical drive?

Maybe this is a suitable mystery to solve as we come to Halloween!
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Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - RESOLVED

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> For your first comment about the response of the system to a mistyped
> password in kdm I was not aware of - I'll ask if this it was a second
> login attempt when I talk to her later - and yes i do have kdm as the
> login manager. The status of the bz you referred to linked to an upstream
> bug which has not had any reply since the end of August!
> 
> On the suggestions for trying to boot a livecd - I did try and after the
> POST, it gave "port 00:" at the top of the screen and a line of "stuff" -
> but did nothing further.  I now have a new replacement HD which I will
> install over the weekend and see if I can then boot a liveCD to configure
> it - I'll report back in due course. 
> 
> 

This evening I removed the HD and installed the brand new hard drive. The
machine now readily booted to a PartedMagic LiveCD and I was able to
partition the drive to prepare for an f11 clean install which I have now
just completed.

So in this case it turned out to be a total failure of the hard drive - the
machine is less than 2 years old, so a drive failure at this age is
surprising, the more so considering it has always been on a UPS to protect
the mains supplying it. The new HD is a different make to the original, and
hopefully will last a little longer than the previous one! Anyway I am very
glad that this turned out to be unrelated to the operating system, although
I am still trying to get to the bottom of what happened to the other machine
- which was clearly a software issue.

Have a good weekend.
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Re: Okular not printing in f11? - SOLVED

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Cloaked



Bugzilla from rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
> 
> Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I just tried to print a pdf from Okular running in f11 - it appears not
>> to
>> see the network printers (I can print fine from Firefox) - anyone else
>> see
>> this?
> 
> Not here, is /etc/printcap populated with printers visible to cups?
> 
> 

I just tried again after a few hours, and it worked fine a minute ago -
there must have been a network problem earlier (network is not under my
control in this case) - I did not change anything!  Weird!  Anyway sorry for
the noise.
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Okular not printing in f11?

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Cloaked

I just tried to print a pdf from Okular running in f11 - it appears not to
see the network printers (I can print fine from Firefox) - anyone else see
this?
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Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Cloaked



Bugzilla from gabriello.rami...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> in the above case, maybe her mistyped her password in one ocassion  and
> when typed it correctly , the machine got the following bug
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506171  " If password
> entered incorrectly in KDM, next successful login causes X server
> shutdown and hang  "
> 
> maybe you can try to mistype your password and enter correctly with
> kernel 2.6.30.8-64 to discard kernel-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686.PAE as the
> cause
> 
>> The other machine is extinct - I cannot boot at all even to a liveCD so I
>> can't investigate it.  However at the time that failed there were weird
>> graphics artifacts with multicoloured lines - and it is conceivable that
>> it
>> could have also been a graphics issue - on boot it puts port00: after the
>> first message on the screen, and then some stuff on the screen (after the
>> post check complets) but no boot - I tried partedmagic DVD but it won't
>> boot
>> at all.  I suppose that the disc could have gone bad and over the weekend
>> will replace the drive and see if that allows a boot and re-install - but
>> I
>> am out of ideas on that... however the nouveau failure on my wife's
>> machine
>> worries me
> 
> if you disconnect the hard drive, maybe you can boot from a livecd, to
> see if the motherboard and video card are fine. I don't know if the
> livecd include the memttest
> 
> maybe the sata cable failed or the sata port where the disk is connected
> failed, if you have a sata port free you can connect the hard drive in
> it if using uuids in the partitions
> 
> 

For your first comment about the response of the system to a mistyped
password in kdm I was not aware of - I'll ask if this it was a second login
attempt when I talk to her later - and yes i do have kdm as the login
manager. The status of the bz you referred to linked to an upstream bug
which has not had any reply since the end of August!

On the suggestions for trying to boot a livecd - I did try and after the
POST, it gave "port 00:" at the top of the screen and a line of "stuff" -
but did nothing further.  I now have a new replacement HD which I will
install over the weekend and see if I can then boot a liveCD to configure it
- I'll report back in due course. 

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Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> # service paranoia start
> OK so the two machines conspired to fail in the same 12 hour period soon
> after some updates - it is a hardware conspiracy! Now I know...
> 
> Now I'll just have to make sure I don't update my phone, TV, or anything
> else just in case they are part of the same plot!
> # service paranoia stop
> 

OK I have been working on this tonight - it turned out that my wife had the
presence of mind to write down what was on the screen of her machine when it
failed - and it was not as fatal/terminal as my own machine's problem.

In my wife's case she reported that when hitting the enter key to login
under kdm the screen went black, and this was followed by a cursor at top
right and repeated lines containing text, with "nouveau_fifo_free:freeing
fifo 1"

So this appears to have been a graphics issue concerning the nouveau driver
- however this evening I was able to boot this machine and am running on the
previous kernel for safety. (2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAE)

I have not yet sought to investigate whether there were changes in the new
kernel (kernel-PAE-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686) that relate to the nouveau driver
- however I have never until now had any graphics related issues with this
machine and it does have an Nvidia 8300GS card.

The other machine is extinct - I cannot boot at all even to a liveCD so I
can't investigate it.  However at the time that failed there were weird
graphics artifacts with multicoloured lines - and it is conceivable that it
could have also been a graphics issue - on boot it puts port00: after the
first message on the screen, and then some stuff on the screen (after the
post check complets) but no boot - I tried partedmagic DVD but it won't boot
at all.  I suppose that the disc could have gone bad and over the weekend
will replace the drive and see if that allows a boot and re-install - but I
am out of ideas on that... however the nouveau failure on my wife's machine
worries me
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Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Cloaked



Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> 
> 
> Could also be power related, though if its a coincidence, it a *very*
> unfortunate one.
> 
> It does make me wary about rebooting my machine now.  B^)  I think I'll
> wait to see if you get any more responses.
> 
> 

The two machines were/are on independent ups'es - so I can't see it is power
related unless some spike managed to get through the ups boxen.
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Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Cloaked



Tom Horsley-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> I have this long standing theory that hardware deliberately
> waits till you install new software to break. I've
> seen it happen way too often over the years in our lab
> at work for it to be a coincidence :-).
> 
> 

# service paranoia start
OK so the two machines conspired to fail in the same 12 hour period soon
after some updates - it is a hardware conspiracy! Now I know...

Now I'll just have to make sure I don't update my phone, TV, or anything
else just in case they are part of the same plot!
# service paranoia stop
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Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Cloaked



Craig White-6 wrote:
> 
> 
> there are thousands updating F11 every day. If there is/was a problem,
> we would be hearing about it.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 

OK - maybe I am just very very unlucky today - I had also wondered if there
was anything in the update to the quota package that could have been
connected.  I don't use quotas but one of the systems guys at work told me
that there were known problems with quotas in ext4 - and I am wondering if
this is connected - if there is nothing possibly related to the updates then
I will accept that I just had two disks die as an unhappy coincidence.  I
need to make further checks over the coming weekend, and maybe it is just a
bad hair day for me

Presumably those who have added to this thread are also using ext4 and
(apart from one) have updated to the new kernel and new quota package?
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Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Cloaked



Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> 
> On 10/29/2009 05:14 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
>> 
>> I have had an unprecented pair of events last night and this morning -
>> two
>> machines (both Dell Inspiron 530s desktops) have died completely (
>> unbootable) - having been running on f11 very successfully for some time.
>> I
>> had no reason to suspect the hardware at all and both were running fine
>> from
>> new a couple of years ago - but I am now wondering if this has anything
>> to
>> do with updates that came in on 28th October. The new kernel and a number
>> of
>> other updates were installed yesterday morning on both machines. Both
>> were
>> also using ext4 files systems.
> 
> Did you reboot after installing the new kernels?
> 
> I have installed the new updates yesterday as well, but I have not yet
> reboot to use the new kernels on either my x86_64 laptop, nor an i586
> desktop that I use only for testing.  Both are still running.  Possibly
> because I have not yet rebooted.  Neither have any ext4 filesystems on
> them.
> 
> Just a data point for you to compare to.
> 
> 

Yes I rebooted both machines yesterday morning shortly after the updates
were in. They appeared to run fine until the first failed catastrophically
last night. The second failed whilst I was on my way to work - my wife
phoned me to tell me that the screen had suddenly filled with coloured bars
and that there were weird messages on the screen - the machines are now
unbootable. It does sounds like a catastrophic disk failure but I was
wondering if it had anything to do with them running with ext4 file systems
- on / and /opt though /boot was ext3 as needed for f11 install with ext4
for the rest.

I am at a total loss as this takes out both operational desktops at home -
it is of course possible that it is not connected with any updates - but two
machines going out within 12 hours seems a very unfortunate coincidence -
last night I was convinced it was an unlucky disk failure - but I have not
had time to investigate.  However I thought it was worth asking in case
anyone else who is running f11, and ran the same updates may have hit the
analogous problem - if so I am quite worried as I have several other
machines running f11 elsewhere (like on my desk at work!)

All are fully up to date f11 - but with different hardware. The two that
failed were both Dell 530S less than 2 years old.
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two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Cloaked

I have had an unprecented pair of events last night and this morning - two
machines (both Dell Inspiron 530s desktops) have died completely (
unbootable) - having been running on f11 very successfully for some time. I
had no reason to suspect the hardware at all and both were running fine from
new a couple of years ago - but I am now wondering if this has anything to
do with updates that came in on 28th October. The new kernel and a number of
other updates were installed yesterday morning on both machines. Both were
also using ext4 files systems.

I would like to know if this is a chance event or related to kernel changes,
particularly related to ext4?

If nobody else has anything remotely similar happen then I will conclude
that I am just very very unlucky  -  but I would like to know if anybody
else has had a mysterious total failure of their system in the past 24
hours.
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F11 Nvidia 8300 GS and kmod-nvidia-PAE fail

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Cloaked

Has anyone had a total failure to run kmod-nvidia with an 8300 GS graphics
card in f11?
My system
(http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_0461ec99-2d05-44bf-ac48-1a0d78a17c52)
used to run with the kmod-nvidia-PAE installed from rpmfusion just fine in
f10 with no issues at all.

When I installed (clean) the new f11 system on this machine (in fact two
machines with this card both have identical issues), the install was fine, I
then yum updated to the latest kernel and, as per my normal upgrade
procedure, then yum installed kmod-nvidia-PAE from rpmfusion.  This process
worked without issue on two other machines which have nvidia graphics cards
(but not the 8300 card). On rebooting, the boot began as normal (text
kms/plymouth with the blue/white running line on the bottom of the screen),
but as soon as x should start - it didn't. There was a blank screen with a
flashing cursor at top right only. I removed the kmod-nvidia package, and
xorg.conf and ran without it until yesterday.

After updating the system to the new kernel yesterday I booted to the new
kernel 2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686.PAE - which was fine and tried yum install
kmod-nvidia-PAE (which is the correct version of kmod-nvidia for this card
and kernel I believe) and rebooted - same as the original problem - after
the plymouth non-graphical boot, blank screen with flashing cursor - except
that some seconds later a couple of lines of text appeared on the screen
related to selinux audit. I removed kmod-mvidia and am running without it
again - this morning in the syslog there are lines:
  audit(1256631766.417:29202): auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:readahead_t:s0 op=remove rule key=(null) list=2 res=1

However I am not sure this is directly related to the kmod-nvidia-PAE or
not.

Anyway I wonder if anyone else has had a problem with this card and an
inability to use kmod-nvidia? If so is there a known workaround?

Thanks for any replies.
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Re: Maple13 and Fedora 11

2009-10-26 Thread Mike Cloaked



Bugzilla from rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
> 
> mike cloaked wrote:
> 
>> Since I have to use Maple 13 at work I installed it in my F11 machine
>> - it worked for everything I tested, but refused to print (not
>> printers came up in the printing dialogue).  It turned out that this
>> is due to the embedded java JRE being incompatible with F11, and it
>> was necessary to make Maple use another version of java.
> 
> I think printing is just plain broken.  It is for our setup too (mixed
> F-8, 
> F-10, EL-5 boxes).
> 
> I will be reporting the problem to maple shortly, I suggest you do the
> same.
> 
> 

Printing has been broken for me for several releases of Maple whichever
version of Fedora I have been using the past couple of years. However with
the replacement of the java jre as per my link it works 100% for me in
Maple13 running in Fedora 11.

I don't know what version of java they embedded in their install disk but I
think that is the main culprit - but yes reporting to Maple devs is
certainly a good idea.  However this also highlights a problem with Iced Tea
- till now I have not had a need to use anything other than the open source
java and it is a shame I now have to install Sun Java to get Maple to work!
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Re: How to tell IP address of remote machine?

2009-10-25 Thread Mike Cloaked



Tom H-4 wrote:
> 
> 
>> I guess I could use lynx, and try to abstract the address ...)
> 
> What you seem to want is the ADSL modem's IP address.
> 
> 

I guess you could construct a shell script that contains a line with 
/usr/bin/curl -u user:pass http:embedded-modem-url > /tmp/modemstatus
Then use some editing in the script to find the ip address in the
/tmp/modemstatus file, and email yourself with the ip address once it is
found from within the script by doing a manual send. Finally once the mail
has been sent then remove the temporary file?

Then run the script from a cron job periodically. I used to use a scheme
like this some years ago for a friend with a dynamic ip address...


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Maple13 and Fedora 11

2009-10-25 Thread mike cloaked
Since I have to use Maple 13 at work I installed it in my F11 machine
- it worked for everything I tested, but refused to print (not
printers came up in the printing dialogue).  It turned out that this
is due to the embedded java JRE being incompatible with F11, and it
was necessary to make Maple use another version of java.  I initially
made it point to the Iced Tea default java in F11, and printing was
then possible but there were many misplaced characters and it was not
properly usable, so I resorted to to using Sun Java.  If anyone else
has been hit by this issue you may want to see the step by step
instructions to making it work I prepared at:

http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~mdc1/maple13_printing.html

It would have been nice to use the open source java but in this
instance I needed to get it working as quickly as possible and only
using the SUN jre gave me a route to an operational system.  If anyone
has an alternative way to get printing working in Maple13 please let
me know.

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Re: Thunderbird 3.0pre not printing to shared printers

2009-10-21 Thread Mike Cloaked


Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> I am running Thunderbird from the upstream nightlies (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
> Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5pre) Gecko/20091018 Lightning/1.0pre
> Shredder/3.0pre) and find Thunderbird (Shredder) can't see shared network
> printers - I can only select print to file (Firefox sees the shared
> printers just fine on the same machine) - but I don't know if this is also
> a problem in the current version of Thunderbird that was released as an
> update in F11? I also don't know if this is a new regression or a known
> problem?
> 
> I know I am running a version that has not been released to Fedora - but
> if this is also a problem in Thunderbird 3.0b4 then it is relevant to this
> list also.
> 
> I just upgraded my main machine to f11, and previously, in Thunderbird 2,
> I could certainly print email to shared printers quite happily in F10.
> 

Turns out it won't print to local printers either - this is a pretty
important bug to get fixed - reported upstream at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523680
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Thunderbird 3.0pre not printing to shared printers

2009-10-21 Thread Mike Cloaked

I am running Thunderbird from the upstream nightlies (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5pre) Gecko/20091018 Lightning/1.0pre
Shredder/3.0pre) and find Thunderbird (Shredder) can't see shared network
printers - I can only select print to file (Firefox sees the shared printers
just fine on the same machine) - but I don't know if this is also a problem
in the current version of Thunderbird that was released as an update in F11?
I also don't know if this is a new regression or a known problem?

I know I am running a version that has not been released to Fedora - but if
this is also a problem in Thunderbird 3.0b4 then it is relevant to this list
also.

I just upgraded my main machine to f11, and previously, in Thunderbird 2, I
could certainly print email to shared printers quite happily in F10.
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Re: Upgrade to2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686.PAE Can I get kmod-nvidia to go with it?

2009-10-19 Thread Mike Cloaked



Roger-111 wrote:
> 
> 
> I found the repos are dangerous and very difficult to find. Yum could 
> not find kmod-nvidia nor akmod-nvidia but locked up until I manually 
> removed them from repos.d .They don't or didn't for me provide any 
> useful applications and crashed the system.
> 
> 

If you installed the nvidia driver direct from nvidia then you may have
things installed during that process that prevent the packages available
from rpmfusion from working - there was a long thread about this on this
forum a year or two back.

The way to do it is to first as root in a clean system:
rpm -ivh
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm

then
rpm -ivh
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm

This installs the rpmfusion repo files in the right place in /etc/repos.d/

Then check which version of the kmod-nvidia you need - if you are using a
PAE kernel then you need to install kmod-nvdia-PAE if not then you may need
kmod-nvidia on its own.  However you may need the legacy drivers instead in
which case you need kmod-nvidia-173xx etc.  Check your graphics card version
and find which driver you need before you install it.
Then do "yum install kmod-nvidia" or "yum install kmod-nvidia-PAE" etc as
appropriate.

If you don't install the right one then it may well not work properly!

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Re: F11: Spooky network manager

2009-10-17 Thread Mike Cloaked



stan-56 wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:27:45 -0400
> lanas  wrote:
>> Makes me think, since I'm still keeping an eye on scaled-down, to the
>> point apps, what about wicd as an alternative to NM ?  I'm tempted to
>> try it eventually.  No gnome dependencies.  Has a ncurses-based
>> interface for console modes and some other nifty features.  A nicer
>> GTK UI.
>> 
>> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Thanks for posting this reference.  I don't care about wireless, but
> wicd, and the project urwid it references, have some code that I
> think will be very useful for creating an ncurses interface to a
> program in python.  And they are GPL and LGPL respectively, so I can
> use it without license concerns.
> 
> 

Although I don't use wicd myself there is a guide page for installing in F11
at
http://wicd.sourceforge.net/moinmoin/Wicd%20on%20Fedora%2011

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Re: F11: Spooky network manager

2009-10-16 Thread Mike Cloaked



Craig White-6 wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn't expect this to all that difficult but you would have to
> configure iwconfig to be able to handle virtually all of this but since
> a laptop is essentially a mobile device, it makes far more sense to use
> a tool that is designed, at the user level to connect to various
> networks - hence NetworkManager
> 
> 

Well, I used to have to configure wpa_supplicant myself for WPA, and then
get the startup scripts to do things in the right order - it may of be very
simple a couple of versions down the road - but I would still be interested
and bemused to know what the experience is for someone trying it now in F11
compared to when I was spending quite a bit of time on it in F8/9! Maybe it
is easy now (tongue remains firmly in cheek!)
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Re: F11: Spooky network manager

2009-10-16 Thread Mike Cloaked



Craig White-6 wrote:
> 
> 
> 2. Aaron is giving you nothing of usefulness. A laptop should use
> NetworkManager for connecting to wireless networks...that's one of the
> things that it is designed to do. 
> 
> 

Although I have not used the network service for a year or two now (except
for wired connections) I used to find getting a WPA encrypted wireless
connection using the network service was something of a game of hide and
seek - and NetworkManager makes WPA wireless easy.  If you do manage to get
a wireless WPA connection going using the network service instead I would be
most interested to know how you do it.

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Re: NFSv4 setup?

2009-10-16 Thread Mike Cloaked



Jonathan Dieter-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> FWIW, I've switched our school system over to nfs4 from nfs3 when I
> deployed the Fedora 11 image.  There were two reasons:
> 
> * nfs3 file locking seriously sucks.  When someone opened OpenOffice,
> had a  crash, and then attempted to open OpenOffice again, it would
> segfault, no matter which computer was used.  The only solution was to
> rm ~/.openoffice.org.  Some problem with firefox.
> * There was nothing stopping random computers on the network from
> connecting to the server.  With nfs4 being restricted to one port, I've
> been able to turn on ipsec authentication for that port only.
> 
> There have been two problems with nfs4:
> 
> * Usernames now have to be matched using rpcidmapd where before all I
> needed to do was make sure the UID's matched up (using LDAP).
> * There is now some funky POSIX->NFS->POSIX acl conversion going on,
> rather than the (admittedly hacked on) POSIX acls that were built-in to
> nfs3.  It just means I can't see the acls on the client using standard
> getfacl and setfacl tools.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 

Thank you Jonathan - that is exactly the kind of feedback I was hoping to
get - and useful.  Of course setting up the basics of the exports etc is one
thing, but tying in authentication as well as using acls is not that obvious
(to me at any rate!) so a clear guide showing how to do it is still needed.


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Re: NFSv4 setup?

2009-10-16 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> a) there are indeed a number of references around, but some refer to using
> portmap (like in your first ref), but I understand that this is deprecated
> in favour of rpcbind - and I believe that this is running by default in
> recent versions of Fedora.
> b) it is not clear whether there are any selinux gotchas so I was hoping
> that someone would respond saying that they had set up nfs server and
> client and that either it worked great, or that there were issues - and
> then say what the workarounds are, or refer to a link explaining how to
> deal with it.
> c) I was hoping to see a single article that included automounting nfs
> shares rather than permanently mounting them via fstab since for my use
> case I did not need to tie up resources except for short times when the
> nfs share was needed.
> d) I was also hoping to see cases where nfs3 had been used and the
> sysadmin moved over to nfs4 - and then find what the problems, if any,
> where using version 4 rather than 3. Hopefully easier since a single port
> must be opened up in the firewall rather than multiple ports for nfs v3
> 
> I was also hoping to gauge whether there were many people who read this
> list who are nfs4 rather than 3 users - or whether the predominant use is
> still nfs3
> 

Excuse the odd typo in the previous post - actually the linuxhomenetworking
link that google finds at 
http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch29_:_Remote_Disk_Access_with_NFS

is quite a good guide but does not mention selinux... perhaps selinux works
so transparently now that it does not need mentioning!
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Re: NFSv4 setup?

2009-10-16 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mail Lists-3 wrote:
> 
> 
>  AF:
>  -
>  Got the smiley but
> 
>   o) Your google is not even what the OP asked for ... at all.
> 
> 
>  Cloaked:
>  ---
>   o) I didnt find anything specific to F11 - however, nfs4 has been
> around a while - so it shud not need to be fedora (or f11) specific at
> all.
> 
>   o) here is a brief page or 2 (sorry for wrapped links)
> 
> http://fedoraunity.org/solved/post-install-solutions/nfsv4-fedora
> 
> http://www.novell.com/communities/node/3787/configuring-nfsv4-server-and-client-suse-linux-enterprise-server-10
> 
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto
> 
> gene/
> 
> 

OK thanks - however one of the reasons that I asked the original question
was that
a) there are indeed a number of references around, but some refer to using
portmap (like in your first ref), but I understand that this is deprecated
in favour of rpcbind - and I believe that this is running by default in
recent versions of Fedora.
b) it is not clear whether there are any selinux gotchas so I was hoping
that someone would respond saying that they had set up nfs server and client
and that either it worked great, or that there were issues - and then say
what the workarounds are, or refer to a link explaining how to deal with it.
c) I was hoping to see a single article that included automounting nfs
shares rather than permanently mounting them via fstab since for my use case
I did not need to tie up resources except for short times when the nfs share
was needed.
d) I was also hoping to see cases where nfs3 had been used and the sysadmin
moved over to nfs4 - and then find what the problems, if any, where using
version 4 rather than 3. Hopefully easier since a single port must be opened
up in the firewall rather than multiple ports for nfs v3

I was also hoping to gauge whether there were many people who read this list
who are nfs4 rather than 3 users - or whether the predominant use is still
nfs3
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NFSv4 setup?

2009-10-15 Thread Mike Cloaked

I have googled for setup advice on NFSv4 specifically for F11 - but I have
not yet found a good reference including pitfall lists and itemised steps... 
does anyone know of a good (step by step) reference for setting up both
NFSv4 server and client in F11?
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Re: kickstart -- refreshing rpm's.

2009-10-12 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> By the way there was one other thing I did to make sure that selinux
> should work when I made the bind mount to the changed chroot area:
> 
> 
> Mike Cloaked wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 1) I wanted to have the files in the /opt partition so as not to use up
>> the limited space in the root partition so I did this, but it is not
>> essential.
>> Changed the directory where the mock files are going to be on the /opt
>> partition
>> As root:
>> mkdir /opt/Local/mock
>> 
>> 
> 
> Now make an equivalence of the security contexts for this new area to be
> the same as the original by
> semanage fcontext -a -e /var/lib/mock /opt/Local/mock
> Then 
> restorecon /opt/Local/mock should give the same contexts as /var/lib/mock
> and this can be checked using 
> ll -Z /opt/Local/mock 
> ll -Z /var/lib/mock
> 
> Check the mock directory has the correct permissions
>  ll -Zd /opt/Local/mock
> drwxrwsr-x. root mock system_u:object_r:var_lib_t:s0   /opt/Local/mock
>  ll -Zd /var/lib/mock
> drwxrwsr-x. root mock system_u:object_r:var_lib_t:s0   /var/lib/mock
> 
> Then the recipe is as I gave in the previous post.
> 
> I ran the build with selinux enforcing and it seems to have worked just
> fine - at least no AVCs popped up!
> 
> 

I just tried a test install with the iso that the procedure generated - it
installed just fine - BUT it does not seem to have pulled in the latest
updates and seems pretty much the same as the original - so I must have
missed a step somewhere - I had not done a build since F10 and I don't know
where I missed a trick in my notes!

Possibly the pungi build command needs a parameter somewhere?
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Re: kickstart -- refreshing rpm's.

2009-10-09 Thread Mike Cloaked

By the way there was one other thing I did to make sure that selinux should
work when I made the bind mount to the changed chroot area:


Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> 1) I wanted to have the files in the /opt partition so as not to use up
> the limited space in the root partition so I did this, but it is not
> essential.
> Changed the directory where the mock files are going to be on the /opt
> partition
> As root:
> mkdir /opt/Local/mock
> 
> 

Now make an equivalence of the security contexts for this new area to be the
same as the original by
semanage fcontext -a -e /var/lib/mock /opt/Local/mock
Then 
restorecon /opt/Local/mock should give the same contexts as /var/lib/mock
and this can be checked using 
ll -Z /opt/Local/mock 
ll -Z /var/lib/mock

Check the mock directory has the correct permissions
 ll -Zd /opt/Local/mock
drwxrwsr-x. root mock system_u:object_r:var_lib_t:s0   /opt/Local/mock
 ll -Zd /var/lib/mock
drwxrwsr-x. root mock system_u:object_r:var_lib_t:s0   /var/lib/mock

Then the recipe is as I gave in the previous post.

I ran the build with selinux enforcing and it seems to have worked just fine
- at least no AVCs popped up!


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Re: kickstart -- refreshing rpm's.

2009-10-09 Thread Mike Cloaked



stan-56 wrote:
> 
> 
>> I have a "recipe" for running mock/pungi if there is interest ...
> 
> Sure, I would like to see the recipe.  I tried making such a thing and
> failed miserably.  It was like I was reading an instruction book where
> pages were missing. :-)
> 
> 

Yes I found it very hard to find what I needed also when I first looked -
there is still very little in the way of a guide on this.  Anyway from my
notes which I did in the past few days on a machine running f11 and worked
fine in producing a "re-mix" DVD iso.

You will have to tweak for your situation (eg change for x86_64, ppc etc):

0) Make sure mock and pungi are installed.

1) I wanted to have the files in the /opt partition so as not to use up the
limited space in the root partition so I did this, but it is not essential.
Changed the directory where the mock files are going to be on the /opt
partition
As root:
mkdir /opt/Local/mock
Check the mock directory has the correct permissions
 ll -Zd /opt/Local/mock
drwxrwsr-x. root mock system_u:object_r:var_lib_t:s0   /opt/Local/mock
 ll -Zd /var/lib/mock
drwxrwsr-x. root mock system_u:object_r:var_lib_t:s0   /var/lib/mock

Then cd /var/lib
mv mock mock.orig
mkdir mock
give it the correct permissions. Note that there is an "s" in the
permissions!
Add line to fstab
/opt/Local/mock /var/lib/mock   nonebind0 0
Now mount it by doing:
mount /var/lib/mock

Next we can start the preparation process (change the user "mike" to whoever
the user will be that runs the build):
As root:
2) gpasswd -a mike mock

3) Then as user mike I did 
$ cd /opt/spins
$ mock -r fedora-11-i386 --init

This takes a while - seems to do lots of stuff - then clearly creates
files somewhere!

Note that mock files are in /etc/mock and new files will be placed in
/var/lib/mock

4) As user mike
mock -r fedora-11-i386 --install pungi

This puts pungi into the chroot - again it takes a while !

5) Need to install spin-kickstarts in the chroot so:
Again as user mike:
mock -r fedora-11-i386 --install spin-kickstarts

6) Should probably also install vim into the chroot the same way so that the
vim command can be used to edit the kickstarts later.

7) Now get a shell within the chroot
mock -r fedora-11-i386 --shell

This gives a mock-chroot> prompt to indicate we are in the shell
Can come out using "exit" at any time.

8) Note that the files are accessible from outside the chroot as
/var/lib/mock/

9) Edit the kickstart file of your choice as needed - they are in
/usr/share/spin-kickstarts/
eg edit the kickstart file for i386 install iso.
Can do this outside the chroot and then copy in to the correct dir from
outside the chroot if you like. Or edit within the chroot if you installed
vim as a package as above.

Edit the mirror lines to suit, and also change the package list if you wish.
I remove all the unwanted language support to make a large saving in iso
size produced.

My repo lines are of the style:
repo --name=f11
--baseurl=http://my-chosen-mirror/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Ever
ything/$basearch/os/ --exclude kernel*debug* --exclude kernel-kdump*
--exclude s
yslog-ng --exclude java-1.5.0-gcj-devel --exclude astronomy-bookmarks
--exclude 
generic* --exclude java-1.5.0-gcj-javadoc --exclude btanks --exclude
GConf2-dbus
 --exclude bluez-gnome
repo --name=f11-updates
--baseurl=http://my-chosen-mirror/pub/fedora/linux/updates/
$releasever/$basearch/ --exclude kernel*debug* --exclude kernel-kdump*
--exclude
 syslog-ng --exclude java-1.5.0-gcj-devel --exclude astronomy-bookmarks
--exclud
e generic* --exclude java-1.5.0-gcj-javadoc --exclude btanks --exclude
GConf2-db
us --exclude bluez-gnome

However referral to the mirrorlist as in the original files should work
fine.

10) Can cleanup the rpm database as
mock-chroot> rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db.00*

This turned out to be necessary for me before it would work.

Supposed to be not vital if composing for same arch. But I did it anyway.

11) Now we can finally run the build...

mock-chroot> pungi -c /usr/share/spin-kickstarts/my-chosen-kickstart-file.ks
--des
tdir=/compose --nosplitmedia --nosource

This will likely take a long time - very long time and should trawl the repo
and
 collect what it needs.

12) From outside the chroot environment the files are at /var/lib/mock/

The files are finally produced in the sub-directories of /compose visible
from outside the chroot as in my case where the system was initiated with
name "fedora-11-i386":

ls /var/lib/mock/fedora-11-i386/root/compose/20091008/i386/iso/
Fedora-20091008-i386-CHECKSUM  Fedora-20091008-i386-netinst.iso
Fedora-20091008-i386-DVD.iso

Within the chroot they will be from directory "fedora-11-i386/"

I hope this helps get going generating remix isos..

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Re: Problems with thunderbird-3.0 Beta 4 message filters

2009-10-09 Thread Mike Cloaked



Joachim Backes wrote:
> 
> 
>> Yeah, it isn't related to smart folders. On one machine my filters work
>> fine. On another machine they don't work on initial start-up but work on
>> any new emails.
>>
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I could get rid from the problem by deleting the filter (it was testing 
> the "sender" header) and re-installing it by testing some body lines 
> instead of the "sender" header lines.
> 
> I have the impression that the filter only works properly on 
> not-header-lines.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 

OK I fiddled - firstly I deleted the filters - then added them from scratch
- eg I have one that checks the From field for root in local imap, and
another looking for logwatch, and moves the message to a different folder.
That did not fix the issue but I was in traditional folder mode throughout
this fiddling.

Then leaving TB3b4 in traditional view I shut down TB, and restarted - the
filters then worked so I guess just switching from smart folders to
traditional is not enough, and TB needs to be restarted, but also it may be
that the filters need redefining.

If someone could test by stopping and starting TB in traditional folder
view, without redefining filters, to see if that is enough it would be
useful to know if it works (I have other machines I have not yet tested but
will do in a day or two)
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Re: kickstart -- refreshing rpm's.

2009-10-09 Thread Mike Cloaked



Tait Clarridge-2 wrote:
> 
> 
>> > %post
>> >
>> > /usr/bin/yum -y update >> /root/post_install_update.log 2>&1
>> >
>> > This will update the system without you having to do anything and
>> > log what it has done for your viewing pleasure.
>> 
>> The disadvantage to this is that it will download a lot more data than
>> is needed if you pull the initial install source as well as the
>> updates.  And it takes up a good bit of time if there are a lot of
>> updates.  Having anaconda only install the latest packages speeds
>> things up and saves on bandwidth. :)
> 
> This is true, I was just giving him a quick and dirty way to try. I
> would NEVER do this from home unless I wanted to say goodbye to my
> monthly bandwidth allowance, I was using it from work and we have very
> fasts speeds to some of our local mirrors.
> 
> 

Or - you can make your own Fedora re-mix iso using mock/pungi, and thereby
get a new DVD which will install with the latest RPMs current at the time
the re-mix was made.  Another advantage is that you can make the
personalised DVD iso without all the additional language support thereby
reducing the iso from around 3.7GiB to around 2.5Gib - then the install on
other machines would be even quicker and updates after install likely to be
pretty quick and not need much bandwidth.  Of course you need to spend the
time making the remix iso - but once done it saves a lot on installs on the
other machines.

I have a "recipe" for running mock/pungi if there is interest ...
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Re: Problems with thunderbird-3.0 Beta 4 message filters

2009-10-09 Thread Mike Cloaked



Joachim Backes wrote:
> 
> On 10/07/2009 03:47 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> Barbara Saraceno on 10/05/2009 04:56 PM wrote:
>>> After having updated to the most recent thunderbird-3.0 Beta4, some Imap
>>> message filters (moving mails from Inbox to some target folder after
>>> having checked the *Sender* header), no more run correctly: The filter
>>> log says that the mails have been moved to the target folder, but they
>>> still reside in the Inbox folder.
> 
>> It's a bug (probably better classified as side-effect) of Smart Folders.
>> I haven't checked upstream to see if it's being fixed yet.
>>
>> 1) Open up the Inbox and select a single account inbox. Then go to
>> Tools>Run Filters on Folder.
>> or
>> 2) If you change back to the traditional folder display it should work.
>>
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Strange: I always use the traditional folder display.
> 
> 

I am also using beta 4, and using traditional folder display and not smart
folders - and my filters won't run either this is clearly a bug - but I
have not looked to see if this is reported upstream yet...
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Re: Mock/Pungi and selinux for building re-spins in f11

2009-10-08 Thread Mike Cloaked


Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> 
> 
>>> Could someone send me a list of AVC's.  Is this the same problem that
>>> livecd has?  Building a different OS, causes it's policy to be loaded
>>> during the install.  We should be able to convince the Mock environment
>>> that SELinux is disabled, and then allow mock the ability to put down
>>> the
>>> labels like we do with livecd.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> Dan, I'll try and do a test build in the next couple of days, and post
>> AVCs
>> if they pop up - would it be best to do this in a BZ report, rather than
>> to
>> Fedora list? If so which component? selinux or mock/pungi?
> Open up one bug on mock/pungi with me cc'd and we can fix it.  Since I
> think most of the changes have to be made in Mock to fake SELinux into
> thinking it is disabled or a fake /selinux like livecd has.
> 
> 

I set up mock/pungi and ran a test build to create an install i386 iso with
a slightly modified kickstart file - I had to restart it when it initially
failed (not selinux related at all) but then it executed without any
apparent errors, and produced the iso files and no AVC popped up at all!
This is on a machine with selinux set to enforcing ...

So now I am left wondering if there is no problem at all with the iso - or
whether it would give selinux related problems if it was used for an install
on a real machine!Certainly there is no basis on which to put in a
Bugzilla report...

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Re: Mock/Pungi and selinux for building re-spins in f11

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Cloaked


Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> 
> On 10/07/2009 08:42 AM, Julian Aloofi wrote:
>> Am Dienstag, den 06.10.2009, 12:57 -0700 schrieb Mike Cloaked:
>>> Does anyone know if it is still current practice to set SELinux to
>>> permissive
>>> before doing a spin re-build in mock/pungi in F11?
>>>
>>> Or has selinux policy now reached the point of refinement such that
>>> running
>>> a respin build works fine with selinux enforcing?
>>>
>>> Would be useful to know - I have not done respin builds since F10 so I
>>> am a
>>> little out of touch with current practice.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
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>> Yes, that's still required to successfully build a re-spin in pungi and
>> revisor if I remember correctly.
>> 
> Could someone send me a list of AVC's.  Is this the same problem that
> livecd has?  Building a different OS, causes it's policy to be loaded
> during the install.  We should be able to convince the Mock environment
> that SELinux is disabled, and then allow mock the ability to put down the
> labels like we do with livecd.
> 
> 

Dan, I'll try and do a test build in the next couple of days, and post AVCs
if they pop up - would it be best to do this in a BZ report, rather than to
Fedora list? If so which component? selinux or mock/pungi?
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Mock/Pungi and selinux for building re-spins in f11

2009-10-06 Thread Mike Cloaked

Does anyone know if it is still current practice to set SELinux to permissive
before doing a spin re-build in mock/pungi in F11?

Or has selinux policy now reached the point of refinement such that running
a respin build works fine with selinux enforcing?

Would be useful to know - I have not done respin builds since F10 so I am a
little out of touch with current practice.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Possible workaround for scanner failing to work in f11

2009-10-05 Thread Mike Cloaked


Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> I have been battling with trying to get my scanner to work after an f11
> install - this is with a scanner that was working in f10 previously.
> 
> I found a "fix" that may also work for others who find their scanner
> device is not found in GIMP->File->Create->XSane: Device dialog...
> 
> 

This is reported at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527137
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Possible workaround for scanner failing to work in f11

2009-10-04 Thread Mike Cloaked

I have been battling with trying to get my scanner to work after an f11
install - this is with a scanner that was working in f10 previously.

I found a "fix" that may also work for others who find their scanner device
is not found in GIMP->File->Create->XSane: Device dialog...

During the updates after the install there was an update to
sane-backends-1.0.20-4.fc11.i586 and this package deals with the dll.conf
file in /etc/sane.d/

I noticed that there were two files:
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  916 2009-10-03 12:13 dll.conf
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  664 2009-06-23 09:04 dll.conf.rpmnew

However the earlier dated dll.conf.rpmnew listed the driver that I needed
and that was in the system, but the dll.conf file did not! So I made
dll.conf.rpmnew into dll.conf and tried again - and it worked fine!

Others having issues with their scanner may find that this workaround may
help too  - depending on the model of the scanner involved.
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Re: Samsung CLX3175 Printer driver

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Cloaked



Jim-213 wrote:
> 
> FC11
> Has anyone installed the Driver for the Samsung CLX3175 all in one
> printer.
> Where do you get a driver.
> 
> 

Although I managed to get a different Samsung printer going, you may find
the general approach at
http://userbase.kde.org/Troubleshooting/Samsung_scx-4500W
helpful, in providing an overview of what you may need - of course the
drivers for your own system will be different and you may find that some
open source drivers also work.

I had to do a lot of googling to get get my printer working - but it does
and in the meantime open source drivers are being honed to work too so that
in the future I hope I can switch over to FOSS.
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Re: xorg bad carma

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Cloaked



valentt wrote:
> 
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-8766
> 
> xorg package has bad carma, so what happens now?
> 
> 

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-server-1.6.4-0.1.fc11
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Re: F11 network drop and reconnect via NM

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> In recent days I have been getting my wired connection dropped and then
> reconnected by NetworkManager in an F11 machine - this has not happened
> previously. Does anyone else have any similar problems? This could be a
> kernel problem but I have only seen that there are similar problems
> concerning wireless connections - maybe this problem is connected?
> 

Added a comment to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517107
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F11 network drop and reconnect via NM

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Cloaked

In recent days I have been getting my wired connection dropped and then
reconnected by NetworkManager in an F11 machine - this has not happened
previously. Does anyone else have any similar problems? This could be a
kernel problem but I have only seen that there are similar problems
concerning wireless connections - maybe this problem is connected?
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Re: Battery - Control Screen brightness

2009-09-13 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mail Lists-3 wrote:
> 
> On 09/13/2009 04:18 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Mail Lists wrote:
> 
>> I am not at my laptop, so I can not check the power management
>> options/ But there is also an applet for Gnome that will set
>> brightness for most laptops. If you right-click on the top bar, and
> 
>   Its a lenovo T61p with nvidia graphics - will get more details - the
> brightness applet shows full brightness - unplugging power - screen dims
> - same applet shows full brightness - i can only make it more dim.
> 
> 
>   I'll check bios settings too - I am using nvidia driver from rpmfusion
> too.
> 
> 

Looks like there are others with this issue or similar:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519105
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522610
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Re: Battery - Control Screen brightness

2009-09-13 Thread Mike Cloaked





Aaron Konstam wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 11:36 -0400, Mail Lists wrote: 
>> Gnome - F11. When I unplug and go on battery - the screen dims. The
>> power applet for non-battery has a slider for screen brightness. The
>> battery tab only has a button to click to dim screen - i have that set
>> to no.
>> 
>>   Yet - when I go on power the screen dims. Is there a slider somewhere
>> to set screen brightness when on battery ? If not - is there a gnome
>> register setting ?
>> 
>> 
>>The hardware laptop brightness has no further effect - pressing it
>> shows the brightness to full - clearly it is not. As soon as I plug
>> power back in the screen gets brighter.
>> 
>>   Thanks for help.
> 
> 
> Would be useful to know if there are other BZ for this problem also?
> 

There are reports on this issue - for example:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20963
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502516
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496975

Perhaps add to one of these ?  Or file a new one?
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Re: Battery - Control Screen brightness

2009-09-13 Thread Mike Cloaked



Aaron Konstam wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 11:36 -0400, Mail Lists wrote: 
>> Gnome - F11. When I unplug and go on battery - the screen dims. The
>> power applet for non-battery has a slider for screen brightness. The
>> battery tab only has a button to click to dim screen - i have that set
>> to no.
>> 
>>   Yet - when I go on power the screen dims. Is there a slider somewhere
>> to set screen brightness when on battery ? If not - is there a gnome
>> register setting ?
>> 
>> 
>>The hardware laptop brightness has no further effect - pressing it
>> shows the brightness to full - clearly it is not. As soon as I plug
>> power back in the screen gets brighter.
>> 
>>   Thanks for help.
>> 
>> gene/
>> 
> Sounds like a hardware problem not a software problem. What does your
> manual say about hardware control of screen brightness?
> 
> 

There are reported cases of problems with brightness control in F11 - eg
Samsung NC-10 brightness control does not work under battery power - and you
need a setpci command to set the brightness directly - the OP did  not
report which hardware this applies to in this case but this may be a
different example where there is a problem also.

In the thread at http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=226597 in
post #5:
it says for the NC-10 you need "setpci -s 00:02.1 F4.B=XX" where XX is a hex
number from 00 to FF"

I have an NC-10 and confirm that this is the case for me.

Would be useful to know if there are other BZ for this problem also?
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Re: enabling root over ssh on F11

2009-09-13 Thread Mike Cloaked


Rick Sewill-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> No clues...but, please check your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file again.
> 
> Do you, by any chance, have "allowusers" or "allowgroups" or
> "denyusers" or "denygroups" in it.
> 
> I don't know how sshd will behave if you try to log into an account
> that is denied because of the above keywords.  Will sshd let you try
> to log in only to always say the password is wrong, or will sshd not
> even give you the chance to enter a password before denying you?
> 
> 

Apart from checking that permitRootLogin is yes, if there is an allowusers
line then root should be included in the list of user names I think and of
course make sure root is not included in the denial list.

I have used root login on F11 with no problem at all.   
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Evolution - and caldav calendar - crashes evolution!

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Cloaked

I added both a yahoo and also a google caldav calendar in Evolution in F11 -
it appears to sync fine and does show existing events... but if I try to add
an event to the yahoo calendar from Evolution it crashes evolution
immediately on trying to save the event! Recovery to the previous state
appears to happen when evo is started again... this is in version
evolution-2.26.3-1.fc11.i586...

... but I note that there is a large number of upstream bug reports in Gnome
bugzilla against evolution calendar - does anyone know if there is any
working caldav support in Evolution if F11 for writing events to a remote
caldav server for a fully updated F11 system?
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Re: Evolution - order that accounts are present in left pane

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Cloaked



Patrick O'Callaghan-2 wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 07:37 -0700, Mike Cloaked wrote:
>> Is there a simple way to change this or am I being anal not knowing
>> how to do it?
> 
> It can't be done. Similar requests have been registered more than once,
> including by me (in 2002!), but it doesn't seem to be considered
> important enough to warrant developer time. See for example
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234539 and
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202257
> 
> 

Thanks for the info!

It seems that folders within an account are lexical apart from Inbox at the
start and Trash at the end - but account name ordering doesn't seem to have
any logic to it - I changed account names but they remain in the same
relative places so account name ordering is not lexical?

There is a "Search Folders" at the bottom on the left, and "On This
Computer" remains at the top changing the initial letter of account names
including switching to upper case seems to make no difference! Maybe account
get added above pre-existing ones but "On This Computer" is fixed at the top
whatever you do certainly in version evolution-2.26.3-1 in F11.

Sigh - I am fast coming to the conclusion there is no ideal mail client -
each has its own list of pluses and minuses..
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Evolution - order that accounts are present in left pane

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Cloaked

I am tinkering with Evolution.  With 3 accounts set up I would like to be
able to change the order that the different accounts are present (with their
associated folders) on the left hand side of the "Mail" screen.

Say I have a machine at work with accounts set up as "Work", "Home" and "On
This Computer" (the latter seems to be default!).  However the order they
are present are "On This Computer" at the top, then "Home" next and "Work"
at the bottom and I would like them to be in the reverse order with "Work"
and its folders at the top of the list.

Is there a simple way to change this or am I being anal not knowing how to
do it?
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Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> 
> 
> I can not find the link right now, but there are boot disks and CDs
> that will let you but from a USB device on systems that do not
> support it. I ran across it on one of the live-USB sites.
> 
> Mikkel
> 
> 

It would be really useful to have the link...
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[OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Cloaked

I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however
although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12
Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the
BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works
perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine
(Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800)

Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an
altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to
continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar?

I usually try to avoid using optical media if possible for running both
installs and testing LiveCDs.
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Re: Monitor does not go into standby when in X

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Cloaked



Steven Stern wrote:
> 
> 
> I had some time this morning, so after getting everything up2date, I
> tried this:
> 
> 1.  Rebooted into level3.  Sat at the login prompt for about 5 minutes
> and watched my monitor go into standby.  Cool.  So the system *can* do it.
> 
> 2.  Logged in and waited a while.  Monitor went into standby again.  So,
> it's not a matter of being logged in.
> 
> 3.  Rebooted into level5.  Logged in.  Waited 45 minutes.  Screen saver
> comes on, then screen goes blank, but the monitor power button is green,
> not yellow.
> 
> It appears that either X or gnome-power-manager is just refusing to put
> the monitor into standby.
> 
> 

It would be really useful if you said which version of Fedora you are using!

Anyway if it is F11 there are known issues with X and going into standby and
there is an update that may help you. 
If you want to try the update in F11 then as root do:
yum --enablerepo updates-testing update xorg-x11-server-Xorg

This fixed similar issues that I had using F11 in one machine.
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Re: Thunderbird 3 and 2?

2009-08-25 Thread Mike Cloaked



Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
> 
> 
> After looking a way to compact the header of a message, I found out that 
> this feature was removed from Thunderbird 3 beta 3, and it's not clear 
> if this is a final decision[1,2].
> 
> This was quite shocking news. In my case a loose a considerable amount 
> of "screen". And I image this is a problem to other people too.
> 
> I would like to know if it's possible to Fedora (or another repo) offer 
> both versions of Thunderbird, i.e., 2 and 3?
> 
> 

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/13564

works nicely in TB 3 in F11...
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Re: Is RPMfusion on strike? [SOLVED -- at least for me]

2009-08-25 Thread Mike Cloaked



William Case wrote:
> 
> 
> When I say remove them, I mean yum remove NOT rm.
> 
> 

I believe there is a bug in the nvidia drivers at rpmfusion for kernel
2.6.30 at present - so until there are fixed drivers I am led to understand
that even akmod-nvidia won't work for these newest kernels - but perhaps
someone knowledgeable about recent developments at rpmfusion will enlighten
me. 
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Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?

2009-08-23 Thread Mike Cloaked



Matthew Saltzman-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> You should be good to go at that point, at least until the kernel
> version number changes from 2.6.29 to 2.6.30.
> 
> 

What is the significance of 2.6.30 in this regard?  Are you implying that
the akmod-nvidia and/or kmod-nvidia won't work with 2.6.30?
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Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Cloaked



Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> 
> 
> Mike,
>   I just ran a short test, and thunderbird shuts down cleanly for me
> (F11.x86_64).  And, yes, I am up-to-date with thunderbird (3.0b3) and
> running both lightning and enigmail (which were both just re-released to
> work with 3.0b3).  I kinda wish more of the other plugins I had
> installed would work with the beta.  Are you running any other plugins
> besides the 2 you mentioned?  I kinda miss the quote collapse and header
> scroll extensions which aren't compatible with the beta release.
> 
> 

Those are the only two extensions I have - and I put in an upstream bz at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=511886

I am connecting to an external imap server as well as a local dovecot server
in the same machine (localhost)... and I don't know if that is important or
not - but it would be nice to be able to isolate the cause of this problem -
there is another thread in Fedora List where others have reported the same
issue - comparison of the different setups where these high CPU loads occue
and do not would perhaps indicate the place to look for what drives this
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Re: yum update failure

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Cloaked



Kevin Kempter-4 wrote:
> 
> 
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.3.00 is needed by package 
> ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates)
> Error: Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.3.00 is needed by package 
> ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates)
>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>  You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
> package-cleanup --dupes
> rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> 
> 
> Would this be a simple matter of waiting for the updates to propagate to
> the 
> repo servers or might this be something else wrong?
> 
> 

Yeah - will be a packing error - either wait it out or do:
yum update --skip-broken

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Re: thunderbird not exiting

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Cloaked



Anne Wilson-4 wrote:
> 
> 
>> I see the same and I am not running x64!
> 
> Forgot to say, mine is not x64 either.
> 
> 

I have entered an upstream bz at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=511886

Feel free to add to it and include as much data as possible maybe also
add your strace outputs?
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Re: thunderbird not exiting

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mail Lists-3 wrote:
> 
> 
>   Whenever I quit thunderbird (F11 updated) - screen clears but there
> remains thunderbird-bin process running. To restart TB (not a disease
> coff coff) .. I need to hand killall thunderbird-bin. (x64)
> 
>   I see same thing on stock mozilla build (32 bit) on F10 as well.
> 
>   Is this a bug with TB or a bug with gnome or ?
> 
> thanks.
> 
> gene
> 
> 

I see the same and I am not running x64!
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Re: Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?

2009-08-21 Thread mike cloaked
Ed Greshko wrote:
Mike Cloaked wrote:
> I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in
F11, and when I
> shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant
fraction of the
> CPU and the process "thunderbird-bin" is still active. I can kill this
> process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean
shutdown happening.
>
> Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could
> not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000
>
You can't be running TB 3.0b3 with lightning and enigmail, right?  I
don't think those plugins work in that version...at least I wasn't able
to install them...with any of the 3.0 betas.
... [show rest of quote]

When I originally installed F11 I then also installed the two
additional packages from the Fedora updates via yum - since then I
have just updated as normal and the packages remain in place.

Lightning is installed with:
yum install thunderbird-lightning which is in updates
and enigmail via:
yum install thunderbird-enigmail and this is in rpmfusion

I know that the latter is not strictly directly supported by Fedora -
but that was why I asked the question - if others are seeing this
issue but who have not installed the latter then this implies there is
a problem with thunderbird itself but I don't know the answer to this
yet?

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Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Cloaked


Ed Greshko wrote:
> 
> Mike Cloaked wrote:
>> I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in F11, and
>> when I
>> shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant fraction of
>> the
>> CPU and the process "thunderbird-bin" is still active. I can kill this
>> process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean shutdown
>> happening.
>>
>> Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could
>> not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000
>>   
> You can't be running TB 3.0b3 with lightning and enigmail, right?  I
> don't think those plugins work in that version...at least I wasn't able
> to install them...with any of the 3.0 betas.
> 
> 

When I originally installed F11 I then also installed the two additional
packages from the Fedora updates via yum - since then I have just updated as
normal and the packages remain in place.

Lightning is installed with:
yum install thunderbird-lightning which is in updates
and enigmail via:
yum install thunderbird-enigmail and this is in rpmfusion

I know that the latter is not strictly directly supported by Fedora - but
that was why I asked the question - if others are seeing this issue but who
have not installed the latter then this implies there is a problem with
thunderbird itself but I don't know the answer to this yet?
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Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Cloaked

I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in F11, and when I
shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant fraction of the
CPU and the process "thunderbird-bin" is still active. I can kill this
process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean shutdown happening.

Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could
not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000
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Re: thunderbird no longer opens clicked URLs in a web browser (protocol-handler.app.http) ?

2009-08-19 Thread Mike Cloaked



netllama wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Mike Cloaked
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> netllama wrote:
>>>
>>> Ever since updating to thunderbird-3.0beta3 (in Fedora11), any URLs
>>> that I click on fail to do anything.  Previously they opened up in
>>> Firefox.  I've got the following set in thunderbird:
>>>
>>> network.protocol-handler.app.http;firefox
>>> network.protocol-handler.app.https;firefox
>>> network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;firefox
>>>
>>>
>>
>> How did you set these in Thunderbird please?
> 
> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General -> Config Editor
> 
> 

Great - thanks - I did not know about that!
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Re: thunderbird no longer opens clicked URLs in a web browser (protocol-handler.app.http) ?

2009-08-19 Thread Mike Cloaked



netllama wrote:
> 
> Ever since updating to thunderbird-3.0beta3 (in Fedora11), any URLs
> that I click on fail to do anything.  Previously they opened up in
> Firefox.  I've got the following set in thunderbird:
> 
> network.protocol-handler.app.http;firefox
> network.protocol-handler.app.https;firefox
> network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;firefox
> 
> 

How did you set these in Thunderbird please?
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Re: Fedora And Virtualization

2009-08-19 Thread Mike Cloaked



Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
> 
> don't use VM$#$$#$#
> 
> please use KVM, libvirt and virt-manager
> 
> 

If you have a box that does not have hardware virtualisation then can you
still use KVM?


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Re: ebooks and fedora?

2009-08-16 Thread Mike Cloaked



Frank Cox-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> yum install fbreader
> 
> I read ebooks on my computers all the time with fbreader.
> 
> 

Thanks - it seems to work well.
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ebooks and fedora?

2009-08-16 Thread Mike Cloaked

Does anyone know if it is possible to download and read ebooks within Fedora
(or Linux in general) ?

I am thinking of for example the WHSmith ebook site (UK) at
http://ebooks.whsmith.co.uk

Some of my family are avid readers of books and ebooks might be a good way
to go. However the site implies that you have to install Digital Editions
which appears to be both proprietary and Windows/MAC only.

So the question is - can one still download and read ebooks say of the type
EPUB EBOOK and still read them in a Fedora system?
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Re: nm/nm-applet - how to stop automatic connections

2009-08-14 Thread Mike Cloaked



Rick Stevens-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> Gee, on mine, I...
> 
>   Right-click on the NM icon in the toolbar
>   Click on "Edit Connections"
>   Click on the appropriate tab (Wireless, etc.)
>   Click on a network, then click "Edit"
> 
> In that edit window, there's a little checkbox marked "Connect 
> automatically".  Just uncheck it and click "Apply".
> 
> Works for me.
> 
> 

Does this stop it connecting first time as well as subsequent occasions?
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