Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
On Saturday 29 August 2009 22:29:03 Mike Cloaked wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I can not find the link right now, but there are boot disks and CDs that will let you but from a USB device on systems that do not support it. I ran across it on one of the live-USB sites. Mikkel It would be really useful to have the link... I've not tried it yet, but someone told me to look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas#Boot - it looks as though their boothelper link will be what you need. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12 Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800) Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar? I usually try to avoid using optical media if possible for running both installs and testing LiveCDs. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--Run-LiveUSB-on-machine-that-can%27t-boot-from-usbkey--tp25204097p25204097.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
Mike Cloaked wrote: I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12 Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800) Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar? I usually try to avoid using optical media if possible for running both installs and testing LiveCDs. I can not find the link right now, but there are boot disks and CDs that will let you but from a USB device on systems that do not support it. I ran across it on one of the live-USB sites. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I can not find the link right now, but there are boot disks and CDs that will let you but from a USB device on systems that do not support it. I ran across it on one of the live-USB sites. Mikkel It would be really useful to have the link... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--Run-LiveUSB-on-machine-that-can%27t-boot-from-usbkey--tp25204097p25206488.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12 Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800) Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar? Mike, maybe my experience with booting from an external usb disk will help. I also wasn't able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so [either that or I am too dense to properly fiddle with the BIOS]. So, what I did was copy the vmlinuz, initrd.img somewhere onto my internal HDisks, specifically in my case on /dev/sdb1. Here is my grub.conf stanza for f10 booting off of the 2nd partition of my usbdisk, [label rootusb2] #24...68 - 29..78 title Fedora (2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686)usb2new TEST bootf10usb2 vga=795 root (hd1,0) #sdb1 kernel /bootf10usb2/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f quiet vga=795 initrd /bootf10usb2/initrd-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686.img I also did this recently with an f11 hdinstall into usb3. Detail: my usb disk is seen as sdc when booted up into my my main f10 on sda1 but when this bootf10usb2 boots it is seen as sda2, i.e, disk order is reordered tousb=sda, hd1=sdb, hd2=sdc. from blkid run from my mainf10on sda1: /dev/sdc2: LABEL=rootusb2 UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f TYPE=ext3 However, this does not affect the root (hd1,0) for sdb1 ie that retains nonreorderd syntax, even though when booted up f10usb2 sees sdb1 as sdc1. This solution is not perfect of course. I can't just take this external usb as is to another computer and have this f10usb2 boot up because the kernel, initrd can't be found. HTH Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:47 PM, jackson byersbyers...@gmail.com wrote: I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12 Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800) Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar? Mike, maybe my experience with booting from an external usb disk will help. I also wasn't able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so [either that or I am too dense to properly fiddle with the BIOS]. So, what I did was copy the vmlinuz, initrd.img somewhere onto my internal HDisks, specifically in my case on /dev/sdb1. Here is my grub.conf stanza for f10 booting off of the 2nd partition of my usbdisk, [label rootusb2] #24...68 - 29..78 title Fedora (2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686)usb2new TEST bootf10usb2 vga=795 root (hd1,0) #sdb1 kernel /bootf10usb2/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f quiet vga=795 initrd /bootf10usb2/initrd-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686.img I also did this recently with an f11 hdinstall into usb3. Detail: my usb disk is seen as sdc when booted up into my my main f10 on sda1 but when this bootf10usb2 boots it is seen as sda2, i.e, disk order is reordered to usb=sda, hd1=sdb, hd2=sdc. from blkid run from my mainf10on sda1: /dev/sdc2: LABEL=rootusb2 UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f TYPE=ext3 However, this does not affect the root (hd1,0) for sdb1 ie that retains nonreorderd syntax, even though when booted up f10usb2 sees sdb1 as sdc1. This solution is not perfect of course. I can't just take this external usb as is to another computer and have this f10usb2 boot up because the kernel, initrd can't be found. HTH Jack Try UNETBOOTIN, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
On 09-08-29 12:06:07, Mike Cloaked wrote: I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12 Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800) Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar? ... Google grub usb boot and you'll probably be lucky. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
