Anybody virtualizing topo maps??

2009-01-07 Thread Beartooth


 Any word etymologically related to 'virtualize' is one 
more thing I haven't gotten around to looking at yet. I remember 
once, quite a while back, I had a quick look at VMware, thinking 
about ways to get my proprietary map software to talk to my GPSs 
under linux; but something about it turned me off.

 Installing  running GPS software under Wine/CXO has 
gotten way better in the last couple years, but I still can't do 
the crucial last step, so that I can transfer data back and 
forth.

 So I asked on Gmane's winelist if anyone else had. No 
claims, though I waited for them; but somebody there says he does 
it with ease using VMware.

 OK, so back to that -- wherever it is : here google, here 
google ... And the first I look at, dated last month, is

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/04/ibm_linux_lotus_virtual_desktop/

 Am I reading this right?? They seem to be saying that IBM 
now has something called VERDE, true free software, that does 
VMware's job better than VMware. Pure puffery by marketing 
droids? Or is there something to it? Has anybody had any 
experience with it yet??

If so, are there tricks a/o gotchas to using it with F10??


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Re: Anybody virtualizing topo maps??

2009-01-07 Thread Shannon McMackin

Beartooth wrote:


 Any word etymologically related to 'virtualize' is one 
more thing I haven't gotten around to looking at yet. I remember 
once, quite a while back, I had a quick look at VMware, thinking 
about ways to get my proprietary map software to talk to my GPSs 
under linux; but something about it turned me off.


 Installing  running GPS software under Wine/CXO has 
gotten way better in the last couple years, but I still can't do 
the crucial last step, so that I can transfer data back and 
forth.


 So I asked on Gmane's winelist if anyone else had. No 
claims, though I waited for them; but somebody there says he does 
it with ease using VMware.


 OK, so back to that -- wherever it is : here google, here 
google ... And the first I look at, dated last month, is


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/04/ibm_linux_lotus_virtual_desktop/

 Am I reading this right?? They seem to be saying that IBM 
now has something called VERDE, true free software, that does 
VMware's job better than VMware. Pure puffery by marketing 
droids? Or is there something to it? Has anybody had any 
experience with it yet??


If so, are there tricks a/o gotchas to using it with F10??


Unfortunately, that won't buy you anything.  It's a virtual client 
solution for businesses that want to get away from running full-blown 
desktop PCs in an office.


VMware or VirtualBox are probably your best bets for running WinXP to 
install you GPS software.


I don't think wine/CXO have the ability to interface at the device level 
with USB devices.  The other 2 products do, but they require a WinXP 
license and install code.


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Re: Anybody virtualizing topo maps??

2009-01-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Beartooth bearto...@swva.net wrote:
 Am I reading this right?? They seem to be saying that IBM
 now has something called VERDE, true free software, that does
 VMware's job better than VMware.

No, you're reading it wrong. First of all, VERDE isn't an IBM product;
it comes from someone called Virtual Bridges. Second, it's not really
clear from the Virtual Bridges website what their product actually is,
but it seems to be specifically for virtualizing Linux desktops, which
leads one to think it's not a general-purpose virtual machine like
VMware or VirtualBox (or KVM or QEMU ...).

What IBM is offering is a packaged Ubuntu desktop running in one of
these beasties and supporting Domino (which it already supports on
Linux anyway). It's no use to you if you want to run Windows on Linux
for example.

I see no prima facie reason it couldn't be made to work with Fedora.

poc

PS Note that VirtualBox does compete directly with VMware, and is true
free software in one of its versions. I've been using it in place of
VMware for several months and find it a lot less hassle to get working
and rather lighter in resource demands. However the USB emulation
still needs some work for certain devices such as ipods.

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