Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
Tait Clarridge wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 13:10 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it. What processor does it have ? SSD ? How fast do applications run ? What do you find to be annoyingly slow ? How was it with 1 GB of RAM ? Thanks ! I have an EEEPC-1000H Atom N280 1GB RAM No SSD - yet The PC is alright, I can definitely notice the slowness due to the atom processor, even the stripped down version of windows was a pain. I have it running pretty lean at the moment, but like I said, there is a huge difference between a regular 1.6Ghz and an Atom 1.6Ghz The sound was not working properly off the bat, just had to modprobe the right module options and now it is working perfectly. When it had 1GB of RAM things ran alright, flash tends to be a bit of an issue even when I have 2GB of ram (a bit choppy, but not too bad). Flash choppiness depends mainly on the CPU, so even if you have 4 GB of RAM, you'll still get the choppy flash. Other applications work fine, audio/video playback is great. The wireless works out of the box (even N). I am going to get an SSD soon to try and speed a few things up. A 5400RPM drive + an Atom can choke a bit. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
Tait Clarridge wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 14:42 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? Thanks Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ? Thanks The atoms are i686, not sure if the AMD ones are too.. Yes, they definitely are. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
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Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it. Andras -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it. What processor does it have ? SSD ? How fast do applications run ? What do you find to be annoyingly slow ? How was it with 1 GB of RAM ? Thanks ! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
Linuxguy123 wrote: How is it working for you ? I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine. Don't use it much, the display is somewhat small for my old eyes and the keyboard is a but tight for my hands, but it works perfectly--including audio. Only complaint is that it won't light up the WLAN LED, but WLAN works well. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Do you know how to save five drowning lawyers? No? GOOD!- -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:54:57 -0600 Linuxguy123 wrote: How is it working for you ? Dell makes minicomputers? I thought minis were higher-end equipment than Dell's target market, more the territory of IBM, HP and the like. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: How is it working for you ? I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine. *blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? See my tractor-trailer rig and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch? Don't use it much, the display is somewhat small for my old eyes and the keyboard is a but tight for my hands, but it works perfectly--including audio. I love my Acer Aspire One; it's great for what I use it for (reading books and network testing, mostly). The keyboard is indeed too small to do any real typing on, though. Only complaint is that it won't light up the WLAN LED, but WLAN works well. My wireless indicator led magically started working a couple of kernel updates ago. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
2009/10/14 Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: How is it working for you ? I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine. *blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? See my tractor-trailer rig and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch? Brand names... The brand in question is a Dell Mini (9|12). NB: your age is showing, best zip up ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
Frank Cox wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: How is it working for you ? I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine. *blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? See my tractor-trailer rig and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch? Well, I'm assuming that's what s/he meant. I, too, am of the old school where mainframes were S/370s, Sigmas and the like; minis were PDP-11s, Vaxen, Novas and their ilk; and micros were anything smaller. With laptops, portables and netbooks, the lines are even fuzzier. Don't use it much, the display is somewhat small for my old eyes and the keyboard is a but tight for my hands, but it works perfectly--including audio. I love my Acer Aspire One; it's great for what I use it for (reading books and network testing, mostly). The keyboard is indeed too small to do any real typing on, though. And the touchpad can be a bit too sensitive. But then, I'm a big oaf. Only complaint is that it won't light up the WLAN LED, but WLAN works well. My wireless indicator led magically started working a couple of kernel updates ago. Hmmm. Mine still hasn't. I did do a big-arsed update a couple of days ago, but I haven't rebooted the machine since then. Perhaps it will work now. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I don't know. Who cares? - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:50:14 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: And the touchpad can be a bit too sensitive. But then, I'm a big oaf. I got caught out by that a couple of weeks ago. The only touchpad computer that I use on a regular basis is my little Acer, and I had to set up a new Mac laptop for a customer.It's the first Mac that I've actually touched since the SE was the latest thing, so I really hadn't much of a clue what I was doing. It took me several minutes to figure out that I had to give the touchpad a really good push to make it register a click; any touchpads I've used on other computers register a gentle tap. I spent quite a while wondering why my clicks didn't appear to be doing anything, but assuming that they were being read. The joy of troubleshooting something I know nothing about -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 12:50 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: Frank Cox wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: How is it working for you ? I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine. *blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? See my tractor-trailer rig and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch? Well, I'm assuming that's what s/he meant. I, too, am of the old school where mainframes were S/370s, Sigmas and the like; minis were PDP-11s, Vaxen, Novas and their ilk; and micros were anything smaller. With laptops, portables and netbooks, the lines are even fuzzier. I feel the same way about the Mini moniker. I guess its somewhat justified that the netbooks are called Minis because they have more computing power than the old minis (PDP 11 et al) did. There isn't anything mini about a PDP11 any more... except if you compare its size to an old mainframe. Its astonishing to think how much processing power we can buy for ~$400 these days. (See HP Mini 311, for example...) 30 years ago $400 would have bought less than a day's computing time. Now it buys an entire machine that is way faster and nicer. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? Thanks Asus EEEPC 4G (+ 4GB SD Card, 4k striped LVM formatted to ext4) 512MB Ram F11 LXDE Updated BIOS to get full 900MHz on CeleronM cpu. Performance is pretty good but scrolling in FF w/ Flash heavy sites still lag a bit sometimes. Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? Thanks Asus EEEPC 4G (+ 4GB SD Card, 4k striped LVM formatted to ext4) 512MB Ram F11 LXDE Updated BIOS to get full 900MHz on CeleronM cpu. Performance is pretty good but scrolling in FF w/ Flash heavy sites still lag a bit sometimes. Can you watch youtube videos ? In HD ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? Thanks Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: Asus EEEPC 4G (+ 4GB SD Card, 4k striped LVM formatted to ext4) 512MB Ram F11 LXDE Updated BIOS to get full 900MHz on CeleronM cpu. Performance is pretty good but scrolling in FF w/ Flash heavy sites still lag a bit sometimes. Can you watch youtube videos ? In HD ? I haven't really tried but if I have some time tonight I give it a whirl. Right now the wife is using it as her primary computer since the hard drive died in her laptop. Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:42:27 -0600 Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? Thanks Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ? For the Intel based ones generally a plain x86-32 distribution. It's a win to compile a custom kernel optimised for Atom, and ditto glibc so that you get the later instruction optimisations. Be careful which Dell mini and do your research on compatibility. A lot of the netbooks have unsupported broadcom wireless devices, and the Dell mini-10 also has unsupported video (the 10v has more 'normal' video) Another problem is that a lot of the touchpads on mini laptops suck so try, test and see. I have a Dell mini-9 which actually gets used as a firewall/router (small, built in console screen, built in UPS !) where the wireless doesn't work and the touchpad isn't great, and a Samsung NC-10 with real hard disk which has become my travelling box and runs a full Fedora. Definitely try before you buy... Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it. What processor does it have ? SSD ? How fast do applications run ? What do you find to be annoyingly slow ? How was it with 1 GB of RAM ? Celeron something (i.e., not even an Atom), 4G SSD, and it started life with 512M memory before getting 2G. Nothing is really slow, but then I only use Firefox (with lots of open tabs), and various document readers (acroread, evince, FBReader). I love it. Andras -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
Alan Cox wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:42:27 -0600
Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
Thanks
Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64
distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ?
For the Intel based ones generally a plain x86-32 distribution. It's a
win to compile a custom kernel optimised for Atom, and ditto glibc so
that you get the later instruction optimisations.
Be careful which Dell mini and do your research on compatibility. A lot
of the netbooks have unsupported broadcom wireless devices, and the Dell
mini-10 also has unsupported video (the 10v has more 'normal' video)
Another problem is that a lot of the touchpads on mini laptops suck so
try, test and see. I have a Dell mini-9 which actually gets used as a
firewall/router (small, built in console screen, built in UPS !) where
the wireless doesn't work and the touchpad isn't great, and a Samsung
NC-10 with real hard disk which has become my travelling box and runs a
full Fedora.
Definitely try before you buy...
I concur. I got my Acer (it's the 32-bit Atom beastie) because it's
handy in emergencies. As I said, the display's too small, the keyboard
too cramped and the touchpad too sensitive for daily use. For daily
heavy use, I have an HP dv6565us laptop (64-bit F11) and a plethora of
desktop machines (all 64-bit F11 except one that's still 64-bit F10).
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Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 14:42 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? Thanks Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ? Thanks The atoms are i686, not sure if the AMD ones are too.. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 13:10 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it. What processor does it have ? SSD ? How fast do applications run ? What do you find to be annoyingly slow ? How was it with 1 GB of RAM ? Thanks ! I have an EEEPC-1000H Atom N280 1GB RAM No SSD - yet The PC is alright, I can definitely notice the slowness due to the atom processor, even the stripped down version of windows was a pain. I have it running pretty lean at the moment, but like I said, there is a huge difference between a regular 1.6Ghz and an Atom 1.6Ghz The sound was not working properly off the bat, just had to modprobe the right module options and now it is working perfectly. When it had 1GB of RAM things ran alright, flash tends to be a bit of an issue even when I have 2GB of ram (a bit choppy, but not too bad). Other applications work fine, audio/video playback is great. The wireless works out of the box (even N). I am going to get an SSD soon to try and speed a few things up. A 5400RPM drive + an Atom can choke a bit. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
