Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Antonio Olivares wrote: >--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Gene, >> > >> >I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and >> >> watching TV. >> >> yes, but setting up a mythtv system needs real time access >> to a mythtv guru, >> and a couple of days to build everything. The guru I have, >> but he has >> limited time too. > >Gene, > >You may want to visit the MythDora project. It is a custom Fedora based > distro that should (set up everything for you*). > >http://www.mythdora.com/ > >I do not know if it is a true (GNU/Linux) distro, but I hope you will not > mind :). > >Regards, > >Antonio Thanks Antonio. I grabbed the torrent file & may set ktorrent to go get the dvd. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) TAILFINS!! ... click ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Roger Heflin wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. No... Don't actually use xine for this purpose. What do you use? xine works, but it sure is kludgy to change channels. A minute or more with lots of false starts, specially for the hi-def subchannel. Thanks Ed, now if we could get this list back to its stated purpose. Gene, I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and watching TV. yes, but setting up a mythtv system needs real time access to a mythtv guru, and a couple of days to build everything. The guru I have, but he has limited time too. Not really. With no mythtv experience it took me less than a day to setup my original system (putting it on a already running fedora 7 system at the time), the second time I set it up took <2 hours, and that included compiling mythtv from source. And if you do attempt it there is a mythtv list with a number of guru's on it which usually respond reasonably quickly if you can properly describe the issue, but for the most part the howto's describe the steps needed. If you are watching 1080i or 720p it does require a reasonable CPU and video card to do it. And mythtv can be run in a window, but the default config is full screen. One proggy I watched last night claimed to be 1920x1050 or some such figure. And it did miss-fire occasionally since its a good 70 air miles to the transmitter and WV's topology is vertical. Its been said from more than one podium that if WV was stomped out flat, it would be the biggest state in the union. I could see what, I am only about 40 miles from the antenna and if the weather is being difficult things sometimes get messy. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Gene, > > > >I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and > watching TV. > > > yes, but setting up a mythtv system needs real time access > to a mythtv guru, > and a couple of days to build everything. The guru I have, > but he has > limited time too. Gene, You may want to visit the MythDora project. It is a custom Fedora based distro that should (set up everything for you*). http://www.mythdora.com/ I do not know if it is a true (GNU/Linux) distro, but I hope you will not mind :). Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Roger Heflin wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. >>> >>> No... Don't actually use xine for this purpose. >> >> What do you use? xine works, but it sure is kludgy to change channels. A >> minute or more with lots of false starts, specially for the hi-def >> subchannel. >> >> Thanks Ed, now if we could get this list back to its stated purpose. > >Gene, > >I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and watching TV. > yes, but setting up a mythtv system needs real time access to a mythtv guru, and a couple of days to build everything. The guru I have, but he has limited time too. >If you are watching 1080i or 720p it does require a reasonable CPU and video >card to do it. And mythtv can be run in a window, but the default config > is full screen. One proggy I watched last night claimed to be 1920x1050 or some such figure. And it did miss-fire occasionally since its a good 70 air miles to the transmitter and WV's topology is vertical. Its been said from more than one podium that if WV was stomped out flat, it would be the biggest state in the union. >Somethings I watch live, but generally I record it and may watch it almost > live (a few minutes behind the current recording) or days later. > >Roger -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) You won't skid if you stay in a rut. -- Frank Hubbard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. No... Don't actually use xine for this purpose. What do you use? xine works, but it sure is kludgy to change channels. A minute or more with lots of false starts, specially for the hi-def subchannel. Thanks Ed, now if we could get this list back to its stated purpose. Gene, I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and watching TV. If you are watching 1080i or 720p it does require a reasonable CPU and video card to do it. And mythtv can be run in a window, but the default config is full screen. Somethings I watch live, but generally I record it and may watch it almost live (a few minutes behind the current recording) or days later. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
On Monday 28 July 2008, Ed Greshko wrote: >Gene, > >First, no, you can't get a word in edgewise. This list is solely for the >that small group of people that feel good about taking over a list an >turning into their own. They have no concept of fairness and think that >everyone of us needs and wants to be "educated" and they will do it and >shove it down our eyes with no regard to our "rights". > >> With the conversion to HDTV in our local market now underway, I need to be >> able to tell xine what channels there are. Unforch, the >> >> dvbscan -fx -o .xine/channels.conf >> >> doesn't regenerate the file with the new 8VSB signals that have come >> online in the last week. > >Well, the only thing that I have found that *may* help is the following >statement > >"dvbscan does not do a full-spectrum frequency scan. To get information on >the available multiplexers, it reads this information from an existing >transport. So you have to feed it this information; happily, the source >distribution comes with a handy selection of transport settings for most of >the available transmitters. It scans and reports the signal strength of the signals it finds, but the -o option generates an empty file. >To find a transport setting file, run dvbscan without parameters. It will >list all transport setting files and its run options. You should find your >transport setting in a directory with a name like >/usr/local/share/dvb/scan/dvb-c/ for cable, /usr/local/share/dvb/scan/dvb-s/ >for satellite, or /usr/local/share/dvb/scan/dvb-t/ for terrestial TV. The >name gives the country and location; for example, au-Adelaide refers to >Adelaide, South Australia. To be sure, look at the beginning of the file, >which should look something like this: " > >So, maybe you need to locate a proper dvb file? > I have almost all of those typified by au-Adelaide, but there are no us-* files in any of the 5 or 6 copies of the "dvb-t/*" directories. What I do have that seems related came from dvb-apps-1.1.1-f8, and it puts those in /usr/share/dvb-apps/atsc/us-ATSC-center-frequencies-8VSB, and that is the file I used to make scandvb work below. I finally have scandvb from that package running, but the command line to do it is nearly 200 chars long. Thats nucking futs. And it found the new stations, but how in hell to you get it to write an xine compatible ~/.xine/channels.conf? So I copied what it output to the screen when it was done, by copy/paste to ~/.xine/channels.conf, and wonder of wonders, I'm watching the Antique Road Show in Hidef. >> Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the >> xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. > >No... Don't actually use xine for this purpose. What do you use? xine works, but it sure is kludgy to change channels. A minute or more with lots of false starts, specially for the hi-def subchannel. Thanks Ed, now if we could get this list back to its stated purpose. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) To give happiness is to deserve happiness. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Gene Heskett wrote: with apologies. have you looked at; http://www.linux.com/feature/59157 http://www.penlug.org/twiki/pub/Main/LinuxHints/LinuxHints.html hth. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Filtering was: Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2008, Ed Greshko wrote: > > How the heck did my subject line get into this thread? This has > absolutely zip to do with my help request. By stupidity. Your "help request" morphed into a discussion on filtering but I failed to ensure that a new thread resulted. BTW, your "Subject" line had absolutely zip to do with you help request. You know better. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Filtering was: Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 July 2008, Ed Greshko wrote: g wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: zziipp. :o| -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
> >| Greetings; > >| > >| 2nd send, no echo came back in about 12 hours now. > >| > >| With the conversion to HDTV in our local market now > underway, I need > > > >to be > > > >| able to tell xine what channels there are. Unforch, > the > >| > >| dvbscan -fx -o .xine/channels.conf > >| > >| doesn't regenerate the file with the new 8VSB > signals that have come > > > >online in > > > >| the last week. > >| > >| Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to > change channels in > > > >the xine > > > >| front end? I can't find a channel up/down > function in its gui. > > > >Gmail does not send you messages that you post to lists > that come back > >from lists Gene. So be prepared for the short tempers. > > I still get the copy back from the list, gmail doesn't > swallow that. That I > know of. > > >Between the Zealots and the Net Nannies this list is > really getting to suck. > > > Forty Rogers on that, David. Does anyone know where the > real fedora users > help list went? They are still here, just that many have gotten sick of the thread, I am and have been part of that *that thread*. I do not know enough of xine and it has failed to compile for me, since the xine that comes with Fedora does not let me view anything :( Because of trying to be free (that thread ). I have used mplayer and it has worked for me in watching TV. However, the new digital stuff is very new and I cannot comment on it yet since I do not know :( Regards, Antonio > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of > liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that > order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Take me drunk, I'm home again! > > -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
On Monday 28 July 2008, David wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >| Greetings; >| >| 2nd send, no echo came back in about 12 hours now. >| >| With the conversion to HDTV in our local market now underway, I need > >to be > >| able to tell xine what channels there are. Unforch, the >| >| dvbscan -fx -o .xine/channels.conf >| >| doesn't regenerate the file with the new 8VSB signals that have come > >online in > >| the last week. >| >| Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in > >the xine > >| front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. > >Gmail does not send you messages that you post to lists that come back >from lists Gene. So be prepared for the short tempers. I still get the copy back from the list, gmail doesn't swallow that. That I know of. >Between the Zealots and the Net Nannies this list is really getting to suck. > Forty Rogers on that, David. Does anyone know where the real fedora users help list went? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Take me drunk, I'm home again! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Filtering was: Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
On Monday 28 July 2008, Ed Greshko wrote: How the heck did my subject line get into this thread? This has absolutely zip to do with my help request. >g wrote: >> Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> >>> Adding to work load. And I don't use tbird filters. >> >> they can come in handy tho for what gets thru spam filtering. > >I am well aware of tbird and its filtering. I have other methods that I >prefer to use. > >>> *All* of my spam filtering is handled by automated processes. So, "to >>> me" the need to manually add filters *is* more trouble. You can't >>> dispute how I feel. >> >> no dispute. but manual filtering does come in handy. especially when >> it comes to cleaning up a tech list. > >As I said, I do use another manual method. I just don't appreciate having >to invoke it when it is avoidable. > >>> sb stands for "Shit for Brains"? >> >> lol. actually, i was using it for 'soap box'. but i guess your >> interpretation could apply. [now i am going to catch it] >> >>> They should not be placed in the position in the first place, IMHO. >> >> again, 100%. but it is a fact of a tech support list that there will >> be posters with nothing better to do than load down a list. >> >> if they want to bash heads, it would be more effective/affective if >> they would do it in a 'chat' some where. then they could interrupt >> each other and make it more to their level. >> >>> I have seen people using procmail filtering and weights and malformed >>> rules getting mail discarded when they did not intend it to be so. >> >> all a part of a learning curve that has to be dealt with. and a reason >> that i do all my additional filtering with tbird. >> >> with tbird, i set up filtering for tech list and non tech list, friends >> and relatives, all by sender address. then i filter for html, which is >> used by majority of spammers. what is left goes to 'occupant' which i >> will check for time to time and usually 'delete all'. >> >> it is not a perfect world, but best around so far. > >It is good that tbird filters work for you. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Take me drunk, I'm home again! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Filtering was: Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
g wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Adding to work load. And I don't use tbird filters. they can come in handy tho for what gets thru spam filtering. I am well aware of tbird and its filtering. I have other methods that I prefer to use. *All* of my spam filtering is handled by automated processes. So, "to me" the need to manually add filters *is* more trouble. You can't dispute how I feel. no dispute. but manual filtering does come in handy. especially when it comes to cleaning up a tech list. As I said, I do use another manual method. I just don't appreciate having to invoke it when it is avoidable. sb stands for "Shit for Brains"? lol. actually, i was using it for 'soap box'. but i guess your interpretation could apply. [now i am going to catch it] They should not be placed in the position in the first place, IMHO. again, 100%. but it is a fact of a tech support list that there will be posters with nothing better to do than load down a list. if they want to bash heads, it would be more effective/affective if they would do it in a 'chat' some where. then they could interrupt each other and make it more to their level. I have seen people using procmail filtering and weights and malformed rules getting mail discarded when they did not intend it to be so. all a part of a learning curve that has to be dealt with. and a reason that i do all my additional filtering with tbird. with tbird, i set up filtering for tech list and non tech list, friends and relatives, all by sender address. then i filter for html, which is used by majority of spammers. what is left goes to 'occupant' which i will check for time to time and usually 'delete all'. it is not a perfect world, but best around so far. It is good that tbird filters work for you. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Ed Greshko wrote: I disagree with your opinion that just because someone is a contributor the "contributors" who is empowered to bestow it on them? You? ouch. discussion but I wish the players wouldn't be so pressed to have the last word. is that not problem of hard pigheadedness? I think Gene could have picked a better subject. he did leave it open. that is for sure. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Bob Goodwin USA wrote: Yes, the Thunderbird filters work just fine for eliminating noise ... I have a long list. it does take a little time, but can be well worth effort. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Filtering was: Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Ed Greshko wrote: Adding to work load. And I don't use tbird filters. they can come in handy tho for what gets thru spam filtering. *All* of my spam filtering is handled by automated processes. So, "to me" the need to manually add filters *is* more trouble. You can't dispute how I feel. no dispute. but manual filtering does come in handy. especially when it comes to cleaning up a tech list. sb stands for "Shit for Brains"? lol. actually, i was using it for 'soap box'. but i guess your interpretation could apply. [now i am going to catch it] They should not be placed in the position in the first place, IMHO. again, 100%. but it is a fact of a tech support list that there will be posters with nothing better to do than load down a list. if they want to bash heads, it would be more effective/affective if they would do it in a 'chat' some where. then they could interrupt each other and make it more to their level. I have seen people using procmail filtering and weights and malformed rules getting mail discarded when they did not intend it to be so. all a part of a learning curve that has to be dealt with. and a reason that i do all my additional filtering with tbird. with tbird, i set up filtering for tech list and non tech list, friends and relatives, all by sender address. then i filter for html, which is used by majority of spammers. what is left goes to 'occupant' which i will check for time to time and usually 'delete all'. it is not a perfect world, but best around so far. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
g wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: I dislike having to filter since I need to keep track of what I've done. Then there are folks that may not be so good at filtering It is clear to me that a small minority of people have no regard for others on this list. They will tell you otherwise...but they don't. no argument there. i agree 100%. Yes, the Thunderbird filters work just fine for eliminating noise ... I have a long list. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Craig White wrote: for the most part, I'm inclined to give Alan Cox and Alexandre Oliva an extremely large berth for conversation as they are significant contributors to the software we enjoy. Most (not all) of the other participants are also significant contributors at least to the fedora-list so I cut them some slack too. I disagree with your opinion that just because someone is a contributor (in your opinion "significant") it gives them the right to press their agendas on the masses. And, even if that "right" could be bestowed on the "contributors" who is empowered to bestow it on them? You? Any discussion that provokes RMS to post is probably a worthwhile discussion but I wish the players wouldn't be so pressed to have the last word. As if RMS cares about this list and the opinions expressed herein. Yes, the exchanges have exhausted the topic but this is Gene's thread. I think Gene could have picked a better subject. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
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g wrote: not sure what you mean by 'keep track', but 'tbird' does have a 'filter log' you can enable. Adding to work load. And I don't use tbird filters. I feel as if I'm being forced to filter. you filter for spam/junk mail. 'soap box' threads are not that much more trouble. *All* of my spam filtering is handled by automated processes. So, "to me" the need to manually add filters *is* more trouble. You can't dispute how I feel. when a new 'sb' thread starts, i just press to get 'source' window, then click 'tools > message filers' and open active filter, click '+' to add. then a short pointer drag and center button click and i have a new 'sb' filter. takes longer to describe than to do. sb stands for "Shit for Brains"? Then there are folks that may not be so good at filtering they can always ask magic words of 'how to' They should not be placed in the position in the first place, IMHO. > and find themselves having mail "disappear". what??? I have seen people using procmail filtering and weights and malformed rules getting mail discarded when they did not intend it to be so. It is clear to me that a small minority of people have no regard for others on this list. They will tell you otherwise...but they don't. no argument there. i agree 100%. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Ed Greshko wrote: I dislike having to filter since I need to keep track of what I've done. not sure what you mean by 'keep track', but 'tbird' does have a 'filter log' you can enable. I feel as if I'm being forced to filter. you filter for spam/junk mail. 'soap box' threads are not that much more trouble. when a new 'sb' thread starts, i just press to get 'source' window, then click 'tools > message filers' and open active filter, click '+' to add. then a short pointer drag and center button click and i have a new 'sb' filter. takes longer to describe than to do. Then there are folks that may not be so good at filtering they can always ask magic words of 'how to' > and find themselves having mail "disappear". what??? It is clear to me that a small minority of people have no regard for others on this list. They will tell you otherwise...but they don't. no argument there. i agree 100%. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 07:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > g wrote: > > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Gene, > >> > >> First, no, you can't get a word in edgewise. This list is solely for > >> the that small group of people that feel good about taking over a list > >> an turning into their own. They have no concept of fairness and think > >> that everyone of us needs and wants to be "educated" and they will do > >> it and shove it down our eyes with no regard to our "rights". > > > > '1st amendment' and all that was written before email, therefore > > they did not write a subpart. > > > > i make my own subpart with what is known as filters. fills up > > 'trash box' but does keep 'inbox' noise level down. > > 1st amendment doesn't apply... But, in any case, of course I do filters and > haven't seen those stupid posts in days. (It would be nice to know how many > people have felt the need to resort to filters.) > > I dislike having to filter since I need to keep track of what I've done. I > feel as if I'm being forced to filter. Then there are folks that may not be > so good at filtering and find themselves having mail "disappear". > > It is clear to me that a small minority of people have no regard for others > on this list. They will tell you otherwise...but they don't. I've been > here for many years...yet I am getting to the point where this is pointless. for the most part, I'm inclined to give Alan Cox and Alexandre Oliva an extremely large berth for conversation as they are significant contributors to the software we enjoy. Most (not all) of the other participants are also significant contributors at least to the fedora-list so I cut them some slack too. Any discussion that provokes RMS to post is probably a worthwhile discussion but I wish the players wouldn't be so pressed to have the last word. Yes, the exchanges have exhausted the topic but this is Gene's thread. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
g wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Gene, First, no, you can't get a word in edgewise. This list is solely for the that small group of people that feel good about taking over a list an turning into their own. They have no concept of fairness and think that everyone of us needs and wants to be "educated" and they will do it and shove it down our eyes with no regard to our "rights". '1st amendment' and all that was written before email, therefore they did not write a subpart. i make my own subpart with what is known as filters. fills up 'trash box' but does keep 'inbox' noise level down. 1st amendment doesn't apply... But, in any case, of course I do filters and haven't seen those stupid posts in days. (It would be nice to know how many people have felt the need to resort to filters.) I dislike having to filter since I need to keep track of what I've done. I feel as if I'm being forced to filter. Then there are folks that may not be so good at filtering and find themselves having mail "disappear". It is clear to me that a small minority of people have no regard for others on this list. They will tell you otherwise...but they don't. I've been here for many years...yet I am getting to the point where this is pointless. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Ed Greshko wrote: Gene, First, no, you can't get a word in edgewise. This list is solely for the that small group of people that feel good about taking over a list an turning into their own. They have no concept of fairness and think that everyone of us needs and wants to be "educated" and they will do it and shove it down our eyes with no regard to our "rights". '1st amendment' and all that was written before email, therefore they did not write a subpart. i make my own subpart with what is known as filters. fills up 'trash box' but does keep 'inbox' noise level down. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Gene, First, no, you can't get a word in edgewise. This list is solely for the that small group of people that feel good about taking over a list an turning into their own. They have no concept of fairness and think that everyone of us needs and wants to be "educated" and they will do it and shove it down our eyes with no regard to our "rights". With the conversion to HDTV in our local market now underway, I need to be able to tell xine what channels there are. Unforch, the dvbscan -fx -o .xine/channels.conf doesn't regenerate the file with the new 8VSB signals that have come online in the last week. Well, the only thing that I have found that *may* help is the following statement "dvbscan does not do a full-spectrum frequency scan. To get information on the available multiplexers, it reads this information from an existing transport. So you have to feed it this information; happily, the source distribution comes with a handy selection of transport settings for most of the available transmitters. To find a transport setting file, run dvbscan without parameters. It will list all transport setting files and its run options. You should find your transport setting in a directory with a name like /usr/local/share/dvb/scan/dvb-c/ for cable, /usr/local/share/dvb/scan/dvb-s/ for satellite, or /usr/local/share/dvb/scan/dvb-t/ for terrestial TV. The name gives the country and location; for example, au-Adelaide refers to Adelaide, South Australia. To be sure, look at the beginning of the file, which should look something like this: " So, maybe you need to locate a proper dvb file? Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. No... Don't actually use xine for this purpose. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gene Heskett wrote: | Greetings; | | 2nd send, no echo came back in about 12 hours now. | | With the conversion to HDTV in our local market now underway, I need to be | able to tell xine what channels there are. Unforch, the | | dvbscan -fx -o .xine/channels.conf | | doesn't regenerate the file with the new 8VSB signals that have come online in | the last week. | | Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine | front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. Gmail does not send you messages that you post to lists that come back from lists Gene. So be prepared for the short tempers. Between the Zealots and the Net Nannies this list is really getting to suck. - -- ~ David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: --batch iEYEARECAAYFAkiORCUACgkQAO0wNI1X4QGmXQCfbwDYGPW9V1R96ZGLsbBs6j86 LwoAoLjPG+QSBE2mDW1Jd3jERk3d+Gwo =8SS7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > 2nd send, no echo came back in about 12 hours now. Nonetheless, we already saw it. Before reposting something, please check the list archives. That's a reliable way of knowing whether your message was distributed, even if you didn't get it yourself. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Greetings; 2nd send, no echo came back in about 12 hours now. With the conversion to HDTV in our local market now underway, I need to be able to tell xine what channels there are. Unforch, the dvbscan -fx -o .xine/channels.conf doesn't regenerate the file with the new 8VSB signals that have come online in the last week. Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Just weigh your own hurt against the hurt of all the others, and then do what's best. -- Lovers and Other Strangers -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Greetings; With the conversion to HDTV in our local market now underway, I need to be able to tell xine what channels there are. Unforch, the dvbscan -fx -o .xine/channels.conf doesn't regenerate the file with the new 8VSB signals that have come online in the last week. Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Just weigh your own hurt against the hurt of all the others, and then do what's best. -- Lovers and Other Strangers -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
