Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2009-01-20 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> In fact I have now checked the official install guide at 
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-installing-from-harddrive.html
> 
> and one sees that for the HD install the guide says "Also specify the
> Directory holding images":
> 
> Partition typeVolume  Original path to files  Directory to use
> VFAT, NTFSD:\ D:\Downloads\F10Downloads/F10
> ext2, ext3/home   /home/user1/F10 user1/F10
> 
> One can see that the official documentation in the latter case omits the
> crucial "/" on the right hand side.
> 
> This needs to be amended in the official F10 install guide since the
> released F10 isos cannot be changed at this stage.
> 

Now fixed at
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-installing-from-harddrive.html
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Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2009-01-20 Thread garethr
I'd like to report success!

Here's the details of how the system looked. An interesting point is that I was 
doing this on a remote machine with only a serial console (and SSH) so the 
kernel and GRUB options all include serial console commands.

ISO used was:
http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD.iso
 [1]
I used the /home partition as the one to install from. (The other partitions 
were subsequently reformatted by the Fedora 10 install.)

I followed guidance in this thread as to extracting the initrd.img and vmlinuz 
files from the ISO in to /home/isolinux/

The filesystem layout I ended up with, which worked, looked as follows. Note 
that my /home partition was /dev/sda7 , which is called (hd0,6) in grub.
[r...@s15332110 [2] ~]# cd /home
[r...@s15332110 [3] home]# ls -l
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 2009-01-14 17:15 boot
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2009-01-14 16:18 images
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 2009-01-14 17:57 iso-images
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2008-11-20 02:17 isolinux
drwx-- 2 root root 16384 2009-01-14 17:46 lost+found
[r...@s15332110 [4] home]# ls -lR
.:
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 2009-01-14 17:15 boot
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2009-01-14 16:18 images
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 2009-01-14 17:57 iso-images
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2008-11-20 02:17 isolinux
drwx-- 2 root root 16384 2009-01-14 17:46 lost+found

./boot:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-01-14 17:17 x86_64

./boot/x86_64:
total 19948
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17759712 2009-01-14 17:16 initrd.img
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  2637056 2009-01-14 17:17 vmlinuz

./images:
total 111840
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 114405376 2008-11-20 02:17 install.img

./iso-images:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2009-01-14 17:58 Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD

./iso-images/Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD:
total 4078484
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4172283904 2008-11-20 02:21 Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD.iso
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   4096 2009-01-14 16:18 images

./iso-images/Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD/images:
total 111840
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 114405376 2008-11-20 02:17 install.img

./isolinux:
total 20756
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 2048 2008-11-20 02:19 boot.cat
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  219 2008-11-20 02:17 boot.msg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  919 2008-11-20 02:17 general.msg
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  166 2008-11-20 02:17 grub.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17759712 2008-11-20 02:17 initrd.img
-r--r--r-- 1 root root12331 2008-11-20 02:17 isolinux.bin
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root  873 2008-11-20 02:17 isolinux.cfg
-r--r--r-- 1 root root   112076 2008-11-20 02:17 memtest
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  817 2008-11-20 02:17 options.msg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  517 2008-11-20 02:17 param.msg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  490 2008-11-20 02:17 rescue.msg
-r--r--r-- 1 root root   514636 2008-11-20 02:17 splash.jpg
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 3104 2008-11-20 02:19 TRANS.TBL
-r--r--r-- 1 root root   128364 2008-11-20 02:17 vesamenu.c32
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  2637056 2008-11-20 02:17 vmlinuz

./lost+found:
total 0
The grub /boot/grub/grub.conf was as follows (actually it had other "title" 
sections as well, but I only used the one given below:
# cat /boot/grub/grub.conf
serial --unit=0 --speed=57600
terminal --timeout=5 serial console

default=0
timeout=5

title Install Fedora 10 x86_64 (from example on website)  Number 3
 root (hd0,6)
 kernel /boot/x86_64/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 console=tty0 console=ttyS0,57600 
repo=hd:/dev/sda7:/iso-images/Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD
 initrd /boot/x86_64/initrd.img


Links:
--
[1] 
http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD.iso
[2] mailto:r...@s15332110
[3] mailto:r...@s15332110
[4] mailto:r...@s15332110


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Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2008-12-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:28:57 -0800
jackson byers wrote:

> My main question is how did Tom, Mike know that
> the Anaconda options
> repo=hd::/
> and/or
> stage2=hd::/
> 
> can/should be added to the kernel line in grub.conf?

Well, many of the options in the web page describing anaconda
options are things I recognized as kernel boot options, and I
didn't know any other place I could provide options to anaconda,
so I assumed they would work (and apparently they did :-).

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options

I admit it might be nice if someone updated that page to explicitly
state that you can put those on the grub kernel line when you are
doing a hard disk install.

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Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2008-12-21 Thread jackson byers
Great posts by Tom Horsley and Mike Cloaked
re installing from iso files on hard disk.

My main question is how did Tom, Mike know that
the Anaconda options
repo=hd::/
and/or
stage2=hd::/

can/should be added to the kernel line in grub.conf?


additional question re the stage2=  option  , quoting from the anaconda
options:
Quote:
stage2=

Specifies a path to a install.img file instead of to an installation source.
Otherwise, follows the same syntax as repo=. If this parameter is provided,
it takes precedence over all other methods of finding the install.img.
Otherwise, anaconda will attempt to find the install.img first on any
existing CD, and then from the location given by repo=/method=.

If only stage2= is given without repo=/method=, anaconda will
endquote

Question:  what is meant by "repo=/method=" ???
it is used twice so not likely a typo
Perhaps some programming jargon(python?) ?

Thanks for advice
Jack
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Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2008-11-28 Thread Robert L Cochran
I've tried most of the different install types (not for Fedora 10
exclusively but other Fedoras over the years, plus CentOS), and I find
the easiest is the http (url) install method. I mount the DVD iso on a
web server document path (e.g. the document root,
/var/www/html/f10install), make sure the web server on that machine is a
trusted service, extract the boot.iso image, boot to that on the target
machine, and at the boot: prompt I type

linux askmethod

and when prompted for the method I specify the url choice and then point
it to the installation image mentioned above.

This is fast if the target machine has a fast processor and reasonably
quick hard drive.

Bob Cochran





Mike Cloaked wrote:
> I have tried various ways to persuade my laptop to install F10 from the DVD
> iso file stored on one of the partitions that will not be formatted during
> the install. Nothing I have tried gets the install to continue past the
> stage where the Partition holding the iso image is selected. It says it
> cannot find the install media and seems to have added images/install.img to
> the end of the directory path where my iso file is stored.
>
> I have also tried by adding the images directory to the same directory
> containing the iso, and within it is the install.img file
> Telling the install to point to the directory on the partition containing
> the DVD iso and the images directory still gives an error message that
> anaconda cannot find the install media.
>
> I have tried from the netinst iso burned to a physical CD disk, the vmlinuz
> and initrd.img extracted from this iso and referred from grub to boot it,
> from the extracted vmlinuz and initrd.img from the DVD iso booted via grub,
> and whichever way I start the HD install it always fails at the same point.
>
> I could use the DVD on this machine as it does have a DVD drive but I have
> other machines without a DVD drive that I would like to install from the DVD
> iso on the hard drive.
>
> Does anyone have a confirmation that an HD install does work?  I am
> wondering if this is just my specific hardware that is tripping up anaconda
> in this case - so other reports would be valuable.
>
> if I can successfully do an HD install on this machine I have some hope that
> it is possible on other machines... and if so what is the trick. I have been
> doing installs this way for quite a few years with all previous versions of
> Fedora including F9. The only difference is that in this case the images are
> stored on a laptop which has f9 with SElinux enabled so I don't know if this
> makes any difference - I can't see that it should and the iso files are
> readable by all users with permissions set to 755.
>
> I have tried adding linux askmethod to the install, instead of the graphical
> boot - but every way I try for an HD install fails at the same point and I
> am getting heartily frustrated now.
>
> Can anyone report success please?
>   

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Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2008-11-28 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> Indeed so but the crucial difference is the extra "/" in the path
> definition at "sdc5:/iso-images" in the kernel line in all past
> versions of Fedora doing something similar required the path relative to
> the top of the 
> 
> 

In fact I have now checked the official install guide at 
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-installing-from-harddrive.html

and one sees that for the HD install the guide says "Also specify the
Directory holding images":

Partition type  Volume  Original path to files  Directory to use
VFAT, NTFS  D:\ D:\Downloads\F10Downloads/F10
ext2, ext3  /home   /home/user1/F10 user1/F10

One can see that the official documentation in the latter case omits the
crucial "/" on the right hand side.

This needs to be amended in the official F10 install guide since the
released F10 isos cannot be changed at this stage.
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Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2008-11-28 Thread Mike Cloaked



Tom Horsley-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> title Install Fedora 10 x86_64
>   root (hd0,1)
>   kernel /boot/x86_64/vmlinuz noselinux asknetwork
> repo=hd:/dev/sdc5:/iso-images/Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD
>   initrd /boot/x86_64/initrd.img
> 
> 

Indeed so but the crucial difference is the extra "/" in the path definition
at "sdc5:/iso-images" in the kernel line in all past versions of Fedora
doing something similar required the path relative to the top of the
partition to not start with a "/" - now this is needed for the first time. 
Previously in F9 and earlier this would instead have had "sdc5:iso-images"
or when choosing the HD install from the graphical menu and entering the
partition as /dev/sdc5 at the top and then tabbing down to the path you
would previously have entered "iso-images/Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD" now the
leading "/" is essential.

I have added a comment to the bz at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473351

In addition this looks related to the reports of issues with NFS installs
where the file images/install.img could not be found?
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Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2008-11-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:50:59 -0800 (PST)
Mike Cloaked <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can anyone report success please?

What you probably don't realize is that they have changed
the way installs work (for your convenience :-).

This worked for me (using the cryptically terse instructions
from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options)

I already had fedora 8, and I had a downloaded DVD iso image
for fedora 10, so sitting in the directory with the ISO file
(which for me was /backup/iso-images/Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD/)
I did this:

mount -o loop Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD.iso /mnt
mkdir /boot/x86_64
cp /mnt/isolinux/initrd.img /boot/x86_64
cp /mnt/isolinux/vmlinuz /boot/x86_64
mkdir images
cp /mnt/images/install.img images

The convenient change is the need to have the install.img file
in the images subdir right next to the iso image file (and
I seem to recall someone saying there needs to be no other
iso image files in that directory).

Then I made a /boot/grub/grub.conf entry that looked like:

title Install Fedora 10 x86_64
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/x86_64/vmlinuz noselinux asknetwork 
repo=hd:/dev/sdc5:/iso-images/Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD
initrd /boot/x86_64/initrd.img

(where /dev/sdc5 is the partition corresponding to what I have
mounted at /backup).

Then I booted the system and picked the Install Fedora 10 x86_64
option, and Shazam! I'm running anaconda and installing from the iso
image without ever involving any CD or DVD media at all.

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Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2008-11-28 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> Can anyone report success please?
> 

I am making some progress - I found by checking VT 3 after the install falls
over that the console messages indicate that there is a missing "/" in the
path definition that is used to define the /mnt/ local install path and the
start of the defined path on the partition.  In my case the path defined in
all previous versions was 
Local/home/mike/.  for the partition normally mounted as /opt - so in
this case it seems that by changing the path definition to
/Local/home/mike/  might work -

I tried this and immediately the install now continues to give the normal
graphical install with the next set of options.  So this looks to me like an
error in the set up with a missing "/" in the scripts somewhere.

It is late here now so I am discontinuing the install for today and will try
again over the weekend.

However this looks like it might work!
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F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?

2008-11-28 Thread Mike Cloaked

I have tried various ways to persuade my laptop to install F10 from the DVD
iso file stored on one of the partitions that will not be formatted during
the install. Nothing I have tried gets the install to continue past the
stage where the Partition holding the iso image is selected. It says it
cannot find the install media and seems to have added images/install.img to
the end of the directory path where my iso file is stored.

I have also tried by adding the images directory to the same directory
containing the iso, and within it is the install.img file
Telling the install to point to the directory on the partition containing
the DVD iso and the images directory still gives an error message that
anaconda cannot find the install media.

I have tried from the netinst iso burned to a physical CD disk, the vmlinuz
and initrd.img extracted from this iso and referred from grub to boot it,
from the extracted vmlinuz and initrd.img from the DVD iso booted via grub,
and whichever way I start the HD install it always fails at the same point.

I could use the DVD on this machine as it does have a DVD drive but I have
other machines without a DVD drive that I would like to install from the DVD
iso on the hard drive.

Does anyone have a confirmation that an HD install does work?  I am
wondering if this is just my specific hardware that is tripping up anaconda
in this case - so other reports would be valuable.

if I can successfully do an HD install on this machine I have some hope that
it is possible on other machines... and if so what is the trick. I have been
doing installs this way for quite a few years with all previous versions of
Fedora including F9. The only difference is that in this case the images are
stored on a laptop which has f9 with SElinux enabled so I don't know if this
makes any difference - I can't see that it should and the iso files are
readable by all users with permissions set to 755.

I have tried adding linux askmethod to the install, instead of the graphical
boot - but every way I try for an HD install fails at the same point and I
am getting heartily frustrated now.

Can anyone report success please?
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