F11 for x86_64
It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? I am running F11 x86_64 - you using torrent or mirrors? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKLoCqmzle50YHwaARAgU5AJ485UyDIoHob227N6qAl66n7G3uCwCdFXLr k7G5pMUj7RruiemEwUWa83c= =Eyoi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? Also see, for instance: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/11/Fedora/x86_64/iso/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKLoDJmzle50YHwaARAqMRAJ9tNRUu3rFmcFg7mFrydTsMkcLViwCgiLYG eDsh2JEvDrGAjfldYrbYr1g= =H/hr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? Check out the list of torrents. There are x86_64 versions there. -Don -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? It's just not listed on the main get-fedora page. See: https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ People are crazy and times are strange I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range I used to care, but things have changed pgpE2Z4c3dQ22.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
On 06/09/2009 11:29 AM, James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? I'm looking at the torrent list now and I see x86_64 live CDs and a CD set, but no DVDs. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:29:00 +0100 James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? James: It's probably a matter of which mirror you're using. I'm currently downloading the x86_64 DVD from the ncsu.edu mirror. -- cmg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
Shannon McMackin wrote: I'm looking at the torrent list now and I see x86_64 live CDs and a CD set, but no DVDs. It's the first link I see on http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//Fedora-11-x86_64-DVD.torrent -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper, and complain. pgpVuXZ9v6yoc.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? a depressing number of the mirrors *appear* to have F11 CD and DVD images, but their timestamps read june 2, so obviously they're not valid. and there's a lot of that out there. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? a depressing number of the mirrors *appear* to have F11 CD and DVD images, but their timestamps read june 2, so obviously they're not valid. and there's a lot of that out there. No, those are valid. Thats the day they were created. Note that the process takes a bit: - Create isos. - Mirror to local rc location for testers to test. - Testing - All looks ok, mirror to master mirror - Mirror out to world. So, the 2nd is in fact the day some of the isos were made. rday -- kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
On 6/9/2009 12:13 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? a depressing number of the mirrors *appear* to have F11 CD and DVD images, but their timestamps read june 2, so obviously they're not valid. and there's a lot of that out there. Did you not install the Fedora-11-Preview? Did you not keep it updated? If you did you already *have* Fedora 11. If / when you update *today* you will have a current, up-to-date, Fedora 11. One that is *newer* than the ISOs because the updates will contain packages that did not make it into the ISOs. Unless you really need an ISO so you can hold in your hand a Fedora 11 disk, that is alread a littl 'out of date', you *don't* need the ISO. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, David wrote: On 6/9/2009 12:13 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? a depressing number of the mirrors *appear* to have F11 CD and DVD images, but their timestamps read june 2, so obviously they're not valid. and there's a lot of that out there. Did you not install the Fedora-11-Preview? Did you not keep it updated? If you did you already *have* Fedora 11. yess ... your point being? If / when you update *today* you will have a current, up-to-date, Fedora 11. One that is *newer* than the ISOs because the updates will contain packages that did not make it into the ISOs. Unless you really need an ISO so you can hold in your hand a Fedora 11 disk, that is alread a littl 'out of date', you *don't* need the ISO. which will do me no good whatsoever for the *other* systems i would like to install f11 on, but thanks for trying to be helpful. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
On 6/9/2009 1:01 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, David wrote: On 6/9/2009 12:13 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? a depressing number of the mirrors *appear* to have F11 CD and DVD images, but their timestamps read june 2, so obviously they're not valid. and there's a lot of that out there. Did you not install the Fedora-11-Preview? Did you not keep it updated? If you did you already *have* Fedora 11. yess ... your point being? If / when you update *today* you will have a current, up-to-date, Fedora 11. One that is *newer* than the ISOs because the updates will contain packages that did not make it into the ISOs. Unless you really need an ISO so you can hold in your hand a Fedora 11 disk, that is alread a littl 'out of date', you *don't* need the ISO. which will do me no good whatsoever for the *other* systems i would like to install f11 on, but thanks for trying to be helpful. Of that I was not aware. Most sys-adms and many users, the ones that I know, tend to be a little more conservative when it comes to installing 'the latest and the greatest' on release day. Best of luck with that and have a good day. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 16:29 +0100, James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? Thanks for your comments. I found a UK mirror (mirrors.vexs.net) which has copies of the files - dated 2 June, but not named as beta. Trying that. -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? Settings / Configure K3b... Advanced [x] Allow overburning (not supported by cdrecord = 1.10) OK and you should be good to go. This should probably be added to the wiki. I wonder if we should set this option by default in kde-settings. As for why we didn't just make it fit the limit: our live CD maintainer was extremely busy and he didn't have much time to work on the live image in the short time frame leading to the alpha. He did make one adjustment to try to reach the target size, but it was still slightly over the limit. I was also extremely busy (and I also have no experience with spinning live images, which is needed to test what size they result in), so I wasn't able to help. We will try to make it fit into whatever K3b and/or wodim thinks is the maximum size (is it 700*1024*1024 bytes? Or something close to that? I'll have to check) for the beta. (Sigh, having to cut off useful applications to stay within an arbitrary limit which can usually be overburned anyway is frustrating. I'd even argue we should actually make the images intentionally slightly oversized, but I guess my suggestion won't get much sympathy.) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 5:01 PM Robert P. J. Day wrote: that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? Settings / Configure K3b... Advanced [x] Allow overburning (not supported by cdrecord = 1.10) OK and you should be good to go. This should probably be added to the wiki. I wonder if we should set this option by default in kde-settings. As for why we didn't just make it fit the limit: our live CD maintainer was extremely busy and he didn't have much time to work on the live image in the short time frame leading to the alpha. He did make one adjustment to try to reach the target size, but it was still slightly over the limit. I was also extremely busy (and I also have no experience with spinning live images, which is needed to test what size they result in), so I wasn't able to help. We will try to make it fit into whatever K3b and/or wodim thinks is the maximum size (is it 700*1024*1024 bytes? Or something close to that? I'll have to check) for the beta. (Sigh, having to cut off useful applications to stay within an arbitrary limit which can usually be overburned anyway is frustrating. I'd even argue we should actually make the images intentionally slightly oversized, but I guess my suggestion won't get much sympathy.) Kevin Kofler -- How about a live dvd with all/most DE in place, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE as well. That would be better download all the possibilities in one DVD. This would make a one size fits all mentality, otherwise put in a usb drive with the capacity to boot it with a specialized cd to boot usb drives(when the bios does not work, and user does not have a dvd drive). Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote: How about a live dvd with all/most DE in place, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE as well. That would be better download all the possibilities in one DVD. This would make a one size fits all mentality, otherwise put in a usb drive with the capacity to boot it with a specialized cd to boot usb drives(when the bios does not work, and user does not have a dvd drive). Regards, Antonio That sounds like a great idea and I'd be one satisfied customer with a DVD with all the tools in it. However, there is still some old server out there that only has a CD drive in it, which does not need all that extra stuff. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too large to fit on a CD: 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: From: Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD? To: Fedora List fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too large to fit on a CD: 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option? would help/not help at all. Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media for that one. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: From: Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD? To: Fedora List fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too large to fit on a CD: 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option? would help/not help at all. Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media for that one. yeah, i went with DVD, i just find it odd to release an image that's that close but no cigar. oh, well. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:51:07AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: From: Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD? To: Fedora List fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too large to fit on a CD: 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option? would help/not help at all. Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media for that one. As I understand it, the release engineers came to the point in the schedule where they had to either release something that would work on some CD burners and definitely would work for DVD/USB media, or simply not release a KDE spin of Fedora 11 Alpha. They opted to make sure KDE users were properly incented to try it out. :-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpMhl6TJ9npi.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:29:11 -0500 (EST) Robert P. J. Day wrote: i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too large to fit on a CD: 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? rday -- Brasero gave me the same warning, but it volunteered to try an overburn. OK, sez I, let's give it a shot. While the resultant CD passed both Brasero's verification procedure and Fedora's on-disk verification, it is the slowest live CD I've ever used -- it took 9 minutes to do the verification and then boot to the desktop. Even then, it was way too slow -- as in 14 seconds to open Konsole. The logs were loaded with avc denials; nothing about hardware problems. Odd, since F10 runs quite nicely on this box. I also downloaded the DVD and I'll install it on a spare partition this weekend. -- cmg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:51:07AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: From: Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD? To: Fedora List fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too large to fit on a CD: 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option? would help/not help at all. Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media for that one. As I understand it, the release engineers came to the point in the schedule where they had to either release something that would work on some CD burners and definitely would work for DVD/USB media, or simply not release a KDE spin of Fedora 11 Alpha. They opted to make sure KDE users were properly incented to try it out. :-) ok, that clears that up. and should i assume that i really should have asked this (and all f11-related questions) on the fedora-test list? i'm guessing i should have. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 02:06:34PM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:51:07AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: From: Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD? To: Fedora List fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too large to fit on a CD: 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option? would help/not help at all. Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media for that one. As I understand it, the release engineers came to the point in the schedule where they had to either release something that would work on some CD burners and definitely would work for DVD/USB media, or simply not release a KDE spin of Fedora 11 Alpha. They opted to make sure KDE users were properly incented to try it out. :-) ok, that clears that up. and should i assume that i really should have asked this (and all f11-related questions) on the fedora-test list? i'm guessing i should have. That would probably guarantee you an answer, just because I don't catch all the posts here daily. But it's well asked, in any case, and I'm glad I could put the answer in front of this list too. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpgwzRl5GYeW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:02:51 -0500 Carroll Grigsby cgr...@earthlink.net wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:29:11 -0500 (EST) Robert P. J. Day wrote: i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too large to fit on a CD: 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? rday -- Brasero gave me the same warning, but it volunteered to try an overburn. OK, sez I, let's give it a shot. While the resultant CD passed both Brasero's verification procedure and Fedora's on-disk verification, it is the slowest live CD I've ever used -- it took 9 minutes to do the verification and then boot to the desktop. Even then, it was way too slow -- as in 14 seconds to open Konsole. The logs were loaded with avc denials; nothing about hardware problems. Odd, since F10 runs quite nicely on this box. I also downloaded the DVD and I'll install it on a spare partition this weekend. -- cmg Update: I downloaded the Gnome F11 live CD and gave it a try. I had none of the problems noted above. -- cmg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
