FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Jatin K]

I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting update  
my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system freezes at 
udev  when booting, before update it was fine !!!



what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?



Regards

Jatin Khatri

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[john wendel]

On 07/28/2009 09:28 PM, Jatin K wrote:

I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting update
my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system freezes at
udev when booting, before update it was fine !!!


what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?



Regards

Jatin Khatri



Does it freeze and never boot, or does it just time out and boot after a 
few minutes?  I have a box that hangs on udev for several minutes, then 
boots OK.


Regards,

John

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Tony Nelson]

On 09-07-29 00:28:42, Jatin K wrote:
> I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting 
> update
>  
> my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system freezes at 
> udev  when booting, before update it was fine !!!
> 
> 
> what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?

It could be the new kernel.  Try a previous kernel.  Press a key while 
Grub is starting during boot (just before the kernel is loaded), and, 
when the Grub menu appears, use the up/down arrow keys to select 
another kernel, and then press RETURN (or right-arrow) to boot.

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Jatin K]

On 07/29/2009 10:24 AM, john wendel wrote:

On 07/28/2009 09:28 PM, Jatin K wrote:

I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting update
my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system freezes at
udev when booting, before update it was fine !!!


what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?



Regards

Jatin Khatri



Does it freeze and never boot, or does it just time out and boot after 
a few minutes?  I have a box that hangs on udev for several minutes, 
then boots OK.


Regards,

John

ya it hangs on udev for several minutes ... may be 3 to 4 min. and then 
boots ok. But it happened after getting update ,


do you have any idea/tweak  to solve it ??. or it is just a BUG ?

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Jatin K]

On 07/29/2009 10:39 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-07-29 00:28:42, Jatin K wrote:
   

I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting
update

my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system freezes at
udev  when booting, before update it was fine !!!


what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?
 


It could be the new kernel.  Try a previous kernel.  Press a key while
Grub is starting during boot (just before the kernel is loaded), and,
when the Grub menu appears, use the up/down arrow keys to select
another kernel, and then press RETURN (or right-arrow) to boot.

   
I've tried it .. ( old kernel ) but the thing remains same, after that I 
reinstalled FC11 from DVD, problem was solved.. then again I get the 
update from fedora ...  (I see the icon at panel, telling that new 
updates are available ), now again I'm facing the same problem  :-( 
. so I think that there are some update which causes the trouble



thnX &  Regards

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Jatin K]

On 07/29/2009 10:39 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-07-29 00:28:42, Jatin K wrote:
   

I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting
update

my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system freezes at
udev  when booting, before update it was fine !!!


what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?
 


It could be the new kernel.  Try a previous kernel.  Press a key while
Grub is starting during boot (just before the kernel is loaded), and,
when the Grub menu appears, use the up/down arrow keys to select
another kernel, and then press RETURN (or right-arrow) to boot.

   
I've tried it .. ( old kernel ) but the thing remains same, after that I 
reinstalled FC11 from DVD, problem was solved.. then again I get the 
update from fedora ...  (I see the icon at panel, telling that new 
updates are available ), now again I'm facing the same problem  :-( 
. so I think that there are some update which causes the t


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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Mick M.]

> ya it hangs on udev for several minutes ... may be 3 to 4
> min. and then 
> boots ok. But it happened after getting update ,
> 
> do you have any idea/tweak  to solve it ??. or it
> is just a BUG ?
> 

It did this to me too. (F11x64)
Turns out my BIOS thought I had a floppy drive.
I set it none/disabled and now it boots normally again.

This did not happen before the update.

Mick M


  

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Phil Meyer]

Jatin K wrote:
I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting 
update  my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system 
freezes at udev  when booting, before update it was fine !!!



what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?



Regards

Jatin Khatri



There may be another issue as well: Entropy.

The kernel needs to be able to randomize some things.  The method used 
to gather some entropy is not always perfect.  There are some odd mother 
boards out there that load memory a bit differently.


The bottom line is, its possible to generate entropy during boot.

One of my systems, a Clevo laptop OEM from Sager, takes up to 20 minutes 
to boot.  However, if I run my finger over the touch pad during the 
entire boot process, it takes 17 seconds!


It is also possible to press the space key about once a second and 
achieve the same effect.


After the system is booted, entropy is more plentiful and things seem to 
work well. 


Good Luck!

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Niels Weber]

2009/7/29 Mick M. :
>> ya it hangs on udev for several minutes ... may be 3 to 4
>> min. and then
>> boots ok. But it happened after getting update ,
>>
>> do you have any idea/tweak  to solve it ??. or it
>> is just a BUG ?
>>
>
> It did this to me too. (F11x64)
> Turns out my BIOS thought I had a floppy drive.
> I set it none/disabled and now it boots normally again.
>
> This did not happen before the update.

It's the same here. After the recent update I noticed that it takes a
long time in the udev stage putting out some messages about fd0.

Niels

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Tony Nelson]

On 09-07-29 01:20:20, Jatin K wrote:
> On 07/29/2009 10:39 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:
> > On 09-07-29 00:28:42, Jatin K wrote:
> >
> >> I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting
> >> update my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system 
> >> freezes at udev when booting, before update it was fine !!!
> >>
> >> what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?
> >
> > It could be the new kernel.  Try a previous kernel.  Press a key
> > while Grub is starting during boot (just before the kernel is 
> > loaded), and, when the Grub menu appears, use the up/down arrow 
> > keys to select another kernel, and then press RETURN (or right-
> > arrow) to boot.
> >
> >
> I've tried it .. ( old kernel ) but the thing remains same, after 
> that I reinstalled FC11 from DVD, problem was solved.. then again I 
> get the update from fedora ...  (I see the icon at panel, telling 
> that new updates are available ), now again I'm facing the same 
> problem  :-( . so I think that there are some update which causes 
> the trouble

Well, you're narrowing it down:  it's not the kernel.  Try booting 
without "rhgb" and "quiet", by getting to the Grub menu as above, and 
using Append ("a") to get to the kernel command line, and Backspace to 
delete those options (arrow keys to skip over stuff not to delete).  
You might see something informative when booting pauses.  Also, the 
Boot Log is back, sort of, in /var/log/boot.log.  It may not show 
anything from the proper time, though, as it covers service startup and 
not what happens in the initrd "init" nash script (which I just learned 
about).

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[john wendel]

On 07/29/2009 08:42 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-07-29 01:20:20, Jatin K wrote:

On 07/29/2009 10:39 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-07-29 00:28:42, Jatin K wrote:


I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting
update my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system
freezes at udev when booting, before update it was fine !!!

what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?

It could be the new kernel.  Try a previous kernel.  Press a key
while Grub is starting during boot (just before the kernel is
loaded), and, when the Grub menu appears, use the up/down arrow
keys to select another kernel, and then press RETURN (or right-
arrow) to boot.



I've tried it .. ( old kernel ) but the thing remains same, after
that I reinstalled FC11 from DVD, problem was solved.. then again I
get the update from fedora ...  (I see the icon at panel, telling
that new updates are available ), now again I'm facing the same
problem  :-( . so I think that there are some update which causes
the trouble


Well, you're narrowing it down:  it's not the kernel.  Try booting
without "rhgb" and "quiet", by getting to the Grub menu as above, and
using Append ("a") to get to the kernel command line, and Backspace to
delete those options (arrow keys to skip over stuff not to delete).
You might see something informative when booting pauses.  Also, the
Boot Log is back, sort of, in /var/log/boot.log.  It may not show
anything from the proper time, though, as it covers service startup and
not what happens in the initrd "init" nash script (which I just learned
about).



Nothing interesting on the console when booting. Nothing interesting in 
the logs either.


Regards,

John

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot

[Tony Nelson]

On 09-07-29 13:08:52, john wendel wrote:
> On 07/29/2009 08:42 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:
 ...
> Nothing interesting on the console when booting. Nothing interesting
> in the logs either.
> 

Well, that's about it for me.  Sorry.

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot (SOLVED)

[Jatin K]

On 07/29/2009 10:56 AM, Mick M. wrote:

ya it hangs on udev for several minutes ... may be 3 to 4
min. and then
boots ok. But it happened after getting update ,

do you have any idea/tweak  to solve it ??. or it
is just a BUG ?

 


It did this to me too. (F11x64)
Turns out my BIOS thought I had a floppy drive.
I set it none/disabled and now it boots normally again.

This did not happen before the update.

Mick M




   
 Yhee   My problem is solved now   there was some problem with 
my DVD burner ( I'm using IBM Thinkpad R51)
when I disconnect the DVD burner system does not seem to be freeze, now 
again I've attached it to my laptop everything is fine .  I think 
DVD burner was not attached/connected properly


Thnx for your support

Regards T.c.

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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot (SOLVED)

[Jatin K]

On 07/29/2009 10:38 PM, john wendel wrote:

On 07/29/2009 08:42 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-07-29 01:20:20, Jatin K wrote:

On 07/29/2009 10:39 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-07-29 00:28:42, Jatin K wrote:


I've installed fedora FC (2.6.29.4.fc11.i586) ... after getting
update my kernel updated to 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, now my system
freezes at udev when booting, before update it was fine !!!

what it could be ?? how do I solve this issue ?

It could be the new kernel.  Try a previous kernel.  Press a key
while Grub is starting during boot (just before the kernel is
loaded), and, when the Grub menu appears, use the up/down arrow
keys to select another kernel, and then press RETURN (or right-
arrow) to boot.



I've tried it .. ( old kernel ) but the thing remains same, after
that I reinstalled FC11 from DVD, problem was solved.. then again I
get the update from fedora ...  (I see the icon at panel, telling
that new updates are available ), now again I'm facing the same
problem  :-( . so I think that there are some update which causes
the trouble


Well, you're narrowing it down:  it's not the kernel.  Try booting
without "rhgb" and "quiet", by getting to the Grub menu as above, and
using Append ("a") to get to the kernel command line, and Backspace to
delete those options (arrow keys to skip over stuff not to delete).
You might see something informative when booting pauses.  Also, the
Boot Log is back, sort of, in /var/log/boot.log.  It may not show
anything from the proper time, though, as it covers service startup and
not what happens in the initrd "init" nash script (which I just learned
about).



Nothing interesting on the console when booting. Nothing interesting 
in the logs either.


Regards,

John



Yhee   My problem is solved now   there was some problem with
my DVD burner ( I'm using IBM Thinkpad R51)
when I disconnect the DVD burner system does not seem to be freeze, now
again I've attached it to my laptop everything is fine .  I think
DVD burner was not attached/connected properly

Thnx for your support

Regards T.c.


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Re: FC11 Freezes at udev on boot (SOLVED)

[Jatin K]

Yhee   My problem is solved now   there was some problem with
my DVD burner ( I'm using IBM Thinkpad R51)
when I disconnect the DVD burner system does not seem to be freeze, now
again I've attached it to my laptop everything is fine .  I think
DVD burner was not attached/connected properly

Thnx for your support

Regards T.c.

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