Re: Fedora 11 and Ext4: The Straight Bits
On 06/08/2009 01:58 PM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: 2009/6/8 Shannon McMackinsmcmac...@gmail.com: On 06/08/2009 01:33 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Read the complete interview here: http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/06/fedora-11-and-ext4-straight-bits.html Let's face it--We're addicted! To files that is. More importantly, we are addicted to the massively large and ever increasing storage devices upon which we store those files. Make no mistake though, like any addiction, storing content comes at a cost and usually those costs are paid at the filesystem level. We all want more space and we all want better performance when it comes to disk I/O and a junkie's wishlist never ends. Fedora 11, when released tomorrow, will be the first distribution to boast the inclusion of ext4, the latest incarnation in the extended file system family, as default. Ext4 brings with it support for larger filesystems, larger single file size and many improvements in almost every imaginable facet. Join me for an interview with Eric Sandeen, renown file system hacker, Red Hat Engineer and Fedora Contributor as he takes on a little trip down Filesystem Alley and explains what filesystems are, where did they come from, why should we care and why they along with Fedora 11 are prepping to take over the WORLD! I don't mean to meddle here, but didn't Ubuntu have ext4 with their Jaunty Jackalope release? Is it default? We had it available since F10 anyways. We also have btrfs available with a special switch, which afaik, Ubuntu does not yet have. -Yaakov It's an option, but Ubuntu also does not require an ext3/ext2 /boot partition. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 and Ext4: The Straight Bits
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Ashiqur Rahman Angelan...@linux.org.bd wrote: What about the data loss issues with delayed allocation of ext4? Afaik, a fix has been released also. Does tomorrow's release include them? Anyone can confirm? Yes, fixes for those were backported form 2.6.30 into F11 kernel: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11#I_heard_about_data_loss_issues_with_delayed_allocation_and_patches_for_that._Does_Fedora_include_them.3F -- Gianluca Sforna http://morefedora.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 11 and Ext4: The Straight Bits
On 06/08/2009 01:33 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Read the complete interview here: http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/06/fedora-11-and-ext4-straight-bits.html Let's face it--We're addicted! To files that is. More importantly, we are addicted to the massively large and ever increasing storage devices upon which we store those files. Make no mistake though, like any addiction, storing content comes at a cost and usually those costs are paid at the filesystem level. We all want more space and we all want better performance when it comes to disk I/O and a junkie's wishlist never ends. Fedora 11, when released tomorrow, will be the first distribution to boast the inclusion of ext4, the latest incarnation in the extended file system family, as default. Ext4 brings with it support for larger filesystems, larger single file size and many improvements in almost every imaginable facet. Join me for an interview with Eric Sandeen, renown file system hacker, Red Hat Engineer and Fedora Contributor as he takes on a little trip down Filesystem Alley and explains what filesystems are, where did they come from, why should we care and why they along with Fedora 11 are prepping to take over the WORLD! I don't mean to meddle here, but didn't Ubuntu have ext4 with their Jaunty Jackalope release? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 and Ext4: The Straight Bits
2009/6/8 Shannon McMackin smcmac...@gmail.com: On 06/08/2009 01:33 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Read the complete interview here: http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/06/fedora-11-and-ext4-straight-bits.html Let's face it--We're addicted! To files that is. More importantly, we are addicted to the massively large and ever increasing storage devices upon which we store those files. Make no mistake though, like any addiction, storing content comes at a cost and usually those costs are paid at the filesystem level. We all want more space and we all want better performance when it comes to disk I/O and a junkie's wishlist never ends. Fedora 11, when released tomorrow, will be the first distribution to boast the inclusion of ext4, the latest incarnation in the extended file system family, as default. Ext4 brings with it support for larger filesystems, larger single file size and many improvements in almost every imaginable facet. Join me for an interview with Eric Sandeen, renown file system hacker, Red Hat Engineer and Fedora Contributor as he takes on a little trip down Filesystem Alley and explains what filesystems are, where did they come from, why should we care and why they along with Fedora 11 are prepping to take over the WORLD! I don't mean to meddle here, but didn't Ubuntu have ext4 with their Jaunty Jackalope release? Is it default? We had it available since F10 anyways. We also have btrfs available with a special switch, which afaik, Ubuntu does not yet have. -Yaakov -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 11 and Ext4: The Straight Bits
Read the complete interview here: http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/06/fedora-11-and-ext4-straight-bits.html Let's face it--We're addicted! To files that is. More importantly, we are addicted to the massively large and ever increasing storage devices upon which we store those files. Make no mistake though, like any addiction, storing content comes at a cost and usually those costs are paid at the filesystem level. We all want more space and we all want better performance when it comes to disk I/O and a junkie's wishlist never ends. Fedora 11, when released tomorrow, will be the first distribution to boast the inclusion of ext4, the latest incarnation in the extended file system family, as default. Ext4 brings with it support for larger filesystems, larger single file size and many improvements in almost every imaginable facet. Join me for an interview with Eric Sandeen, renown file system hacker, Red Hat Engineer and Fedora Contributor as he takes on a little trip down Filesystem Alley and explains what filesystems are, where did they come from, why should we care and why they along with Fedora 11 are prepping to take over the WORLD! -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 11 and Ext4: The Straight Bits
On 06/08/2009 01:33 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Read the complete interview here: http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/06/fedora-11-and-ext4-straight-bits.html Let's face it--We're addicted! To files that is. More importantly, we are addicted to the massively large and ever increasing storage devices upon which we store those files. Make no mistake though, like any addiction, storing content comes at a cost and usually those costs are paid at the filesystem level. We all want more space and we all want better performance when it comes to disk I/O and a junkie's wishlist never ends. Fedora 11, when released tomorrow, will be the first distribution to boast the inclusion of ext4, the latest incarnation in the extended file system family, as default. Ext4 brings with it support for larger filesystems, larger single file size and many improvements in almost every imaginable facet. Join me for an interview with Eric Sandeen, renown file system hacker, Red Hat Engineer and Fedora Contributor as he takes on a little trip down Filesystem Alley and explains what filesystems are, where did they come from, why should we care and why they along with Fedora 11 are prepping to take over the WORLD! I don't mean to meddle here, but didn't Ubuntu have ext4 with their Jaunty Jackalope release? -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 11 and Ext4: The Straight Bits
I don't mean to meddle here, but didn't Ubuntu have ext4 with their Jaunty Jackalope release? Fedora 11 will not be the first to include ext4. Fedora 11 will be the first to *have it by default*. -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 11 and Ext4: The Straight Bits
yes, I guess ext4 must be present in ubuntu but not as a default file system. Even F10 had ext4 (please varify) but not as a default. Now F11 will have it as a default FS. No other distro yet dare to include ext4 as default FS except F11. On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I don't mean to meddle here, but didn't Ubuntu have ext4 with their Jaunty Jackalope release? Fedora 11 will not be the first to include ext4. Fedora 11 will be the first to *have it by default*. -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 11 and Ext4: The Straight Bits
What about the data loss issues with delayed allocation of ext4? Afaik, a fix has been released also. Does tomorrow's release include them? Anyone can confirm? On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Jack Aboutboul j...@redhat.com wrote: Read the complete interview here: http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/06/fedora-11-and-ext4-straight-bits.html Let's face it--We're addicted! To files that is. More importantly, we are addicted to the massively large and ever increasing storage devices upon which we store those files. Make no mistake though, like any addiction, storing content comes at a cost and usually those costs are paid at the filesystem level. We all want more space and we all want better performance when it comes to disk I/O and a junkie's wishlist never ends. Fedora 11, when released tomorrow, will be the first distribution to boast the inclusion of ext4, the latest incarnation in the extended file system family, as default. Ext4 brings with it support for larger filesystems, larger single file size and many improvements in almost every imaginable facet. Join me for an interview with Eric Sandeen, renown file system hacker, Red Hat Engineer and Fedora Contributor as he takes on a little trip down Filesystem Alley and explains what filesystems are, where did they come from, why should we care and why they along with Fedora 11 are prepping to take over the WORLD! -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Angel http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel 0DF8 3CD4 AFE3 68C6 2CDA 9F17 14B8 1A15 E5F7 73C2 Fedora -- Freedom² and rapid innovation Sent from Dhaka, Bangladesh Dave Barry http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/dave_barry.html - Camping is nature's way of promoting the motel business. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
