Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread Nifty Fedora Mitch
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 07:13:30PM -0500, John Thompson wrote:
> 
> Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> 
> > The Firefox issue is interesting... since we depend on external plugins
> > that are not open source and not 64 bit... 
> 
> Isn't that what "nspluginwrapper" is for?
> 

Yes...
when I tried 64bit brand new Fedora8 on this box I could not get 
all the bits I needed running..   Perhaps today as it has aged
it might be fine after a full yum update.




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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread John Thompson
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Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:

> The Firefox issue is interesting... since we depend on external plugins
> that are not open source and not 64 bit... 

Isn't that what "nspluginwrapper" is for?

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread John Thompson
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Kevin Martin wrote:

> John Thompson wrote:
>
>> AFAIK, Mozilla doesn't offer 64-bit builds of FF-3.x

> The 32bit builds won't run on 64bit machines?  I'm not sure what you
> gain by running a 64bit build of FireFox (not that there's not something
> there, I just don't understand what it might be).

I guess I enjoy the challenge...  :-)

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread John Thompson
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Mike Burger wrote:

> FWIW, it's just as easy to get the SRPM for F9, and rpmbuild it on F8,
> which is what I've been doing.

That's what I do here. In fact, until last year I was running Fedora
Core 1 and keeping it up to date in that way. When the hardware died, I
decided to move to Fedora8, which had just been released, on the new
machine.

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread Nifty Fedora Mitch
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 04:07:16PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> 
> > Which begs the question as to why the 64-bit one is what gets installed
> > by default on 64-bit Fedora systems. 
> 
> Actually, it raises the question.  And the answer is probably because it's
> easily possible to set up a 64-bit only Fedora system without any 32-bit
> libraries or software.

Possible yes, easily I am not so sure.

It is true that it is closer today than it was a couple years ago
but how does the phrase go..  "Close but no cigar".

The closest to a pure 64 bit system I know is a Gentoo 64bit install.
Yet even there I did need some 32 bit packages... at least that was
true 18 months ago when I needed less adventure in my life and
more free time in my free time.

The Firefox issue is interesting... since we depend on external plugins
that are not open source and not 64 bit... it seems to me that building
and installing the 32bit version of Firefox makes sense.   Once cruft like
wireless sorts itself out in 64 bit land then the demand mix will change.



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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:31:40 -0430
"Patrick O'Callaghan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Which begs the question as to why the 64-bit one is what gets installed
> by default on 64-bit Fedora systems. 

Actually, it raises the question.  And the answer is probably because it's
easily possible to set up a 64-bit only Fedora system without any 32-bit
libraries or software.

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:56 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> 
> John Thompson wrote:
> > Kevin Martin wrote:
> >
> > | John Thompson wrote:
> > |
> > |> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
> > |> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm
> >
> > | Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you
> > | want the latest you need to do that anyway.
> >
> > AFAIK, Mozilla doesn't offer 64-bit builds of FF-3.x
> >
> The 32bit builds won't run on 64bit machines?  I'm not sure what you 
> gain by running a 64bit build of FireFox (not that there's not something 
> there, I just don't understand what it might be).

Which begs the question as to why the 64-bit one is what gets installed
by default on 64-bit Fedora systems. Note that this disables some
add-ons such as Weave.

poc

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread Mike Burger
> John Thompson wrote:
>> Konstantin Svist wrote:
>>
>> > Is that being planned at all? Or is F8 only supported in terms of
>> > security patches & such?
>>
>> I was able to compile FF-3.0.1 for 64-bit Fedora8 using the Fedora9
>> src.rpm and a little tweaking. If you want to try them:
>>
>> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
>> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm
>>
>>
> Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you
> want the latest you need to do that anyway.

FWIW, it's just as easy to get the SRPM for F9, and rpmbuild it on F8,
which is what I've been doing.

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread Kevin Martin



John Thompson wrote:

Kevin Martin wrote:

| John Thompson wrote:
|
|> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
|> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm

| Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you
| want the latest you need to do that anyway.

AFAIK, Mozilla doesn't offer 64-bit builds of FF-3.x

The 32bit builds won't run on 64bit machines?  I'm not sure what you 
gain by running a 64bit build of FireFox (not that there's not something 
there, I just don't understand what it might be).


Kevin

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread John Thompson

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Kevin Martin wrote:

| John Thompson wrote:
|
|> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
|> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm

| Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you
| want the latest you need to do that anyway.

AFAIK, Mozilla doesn't offer 64-bit builds of FF-3.x

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread Kevin Martin



John Thompson wrote:

Konstantin Svist wrote:

> Is that being planned at all? Or is F8 only supported in terms of
> security patches & such?

I was able to compile FF-3.0.1 for 64-bit Fedora8 using the Fedora9
src.rpm and a little tweaking. If you want to try them:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm


Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you 
want the latest you need to do that anyway.


Kevin

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-11 Thread John Thompson
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Konstantin Svist wrote:

> Is that being planned at all? Or is F8 only supported in terms of
> security patches & such?

I was able to compile FF-3.0.1 for 64-bit Fedora8 using the Fedora9
src.rpm and a little tweaking. If you want to try them:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm


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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Konstantin Svist wrote:
Is that being planned at all? 


No. Although the remi repository has it.

Or is F8 only supported in terms of

security patches & such?


Fedora 8 still gets some feature updates but Firefox 3 is considered too 
invasive a change to be made in an update.


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Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

2008-09-10 Thread Konstantin Svist
Is that being planned at all? Or is F8 only supported in terms of
security patches & such?


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