Re: creating a new gnome terminal, running a command when the term starts...
On 28Sep2009 11:17, bruce wrote: | I'm trying to create/invoke a new gnome-terminal, were i start/run a script | when the term starts up.. | | from the gnome-terminal docs, i'm assuming i can accomplish this by using | the "-x/-e" attribute when i fire up gnome-terminal... | | this doesn't work... others appear to have the same issue... | | so, when i do: | gnome-terminal -x "foo" | | a new gnome term is created, but it hangs without a bash prompt (or any | prompt) created. Of course not. You're running "foo". It's _still_ a terminal! Sounds like correct behaviour to me. | so it appears that a useless blank term window is displayed. the "foo" | script is simply an empty script for testing. it has the chgrp of 777 with a | chown of 777 and a chmod of +x. Try this: gnome-terminal -e sh -c 'foo & exec $SHELL' or: gnome-terminal -e 'foo & exec $SHELL' The -e option _ought_ to take a command-and-arguments like xterm does, thus the 'sh -c ''" invocation. But I have in the back of my mind that gnome-terminal got this wrong so I've supplied you the "-e shell-command-string" variation as well. You might prefer 'foo; exec $SHELL', depending on your needs. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT. You feel sleepy. Notice how restful it is to watch the cursor blink. Close your eyes. The opinions stated above are yours. You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise. - gabri...@tplrd.tpl.oz.au -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: change gnome-terminal "title" from cmdline
On 09/26/2009 10:42 PM, bruce wrote:
hey...
curious question...
how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via
the cmdline...
it appears that the escape sequences i've tried aren't working...
thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated...
thanks
Here is a bit of my .tcshrc that does this. The escape codes here
should be obvious, and are the same for most terminal emulators, such as
xterm and kterm:
set prompt = "%m {%h} %t %U%~%u "
if ( $TERM == "xterm" || $TERM == "dtterm" || $TERM == "kterm"
) then
# set color ls
set term_esc = "^[]2;" # escape, right bracket, 2,
semi-colon.
set esc_end = "^G" # Control G
alias precmd 'echo -n "${term_esc} ${HOST}:${cwd}
${esc_end} "'
endif
This puts the host name and current working directory on my terminal
title bar. Even when logged in remotely, which is the point for me.
Just hafta to know for sure before typing 'sudo reboot'!
Good luck!
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Re: creating a new gnome terminal, running a command when the term starts...
2009/9/28 bruce : > Hi. > > I'm trying to create/invoke a new gnome-terminal, were i start/run a script > when the term starts up.. > > from the gnome-terminal docs, i'm assuming i can accomplish this by using > the "-x/-e" attribute when i fire up gnome-terminal... > > this doesn't work... others appear to have the same issue... > > so, when i do: > gnome-terminal -x "foo" I don't know what you are doing, but I don't think it's right. Try this: # echo "echo hello" >/tmp/foo # echo "sleep 100" >>/tmp/foo # chmod 755 /tmp/foo # gnome-terminal -e /tmp/foo On my system, that results in a new gnome-terminal opening, containing the word "hello". If that works, then there is something wrong with your script and not gnome-terminal. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
creating a new gnome terminal, running a command when the term starts...
Hi. I'm trying to create/invoke a new gnome-terminal, were i start/run a script when the term starts up.. from the gnome-terminal docs, i'm assuming i can accomplish this by using the "-x/-e" attribute when i fire up gnome-terminal... this doesn't work... others appear to have the same issue... so, when i do: gnome-terminal -x "foo" a new gnome term is created, but it hangs without a bash prompt (or any prompt) created. so it appears that a useless blank term window is displayed. the "foo" script is simply an empty script for testing. it has the chgrp of 777 with a chown of 777 and a chmod of +x. in the fstab, there is a default devpts so the virtual dev for the term window should be ok.. i think. i'm running an older fedora 9 for this test. any pointers/thoughts... thanks... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
hi dave... thanks... went back, and rechecked the howto... it was a user error! i had been using "003 instead of "033 .. gotta learn to read! and yeah.. i know the system is a few versions back! 09 vs 10.. thanks! ps. know.. if i can figure out how to use the "gnome-terminal --execute "foo" without having the "child process error msg" appear... thanks again.. -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Dave Cross Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:42 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question 2009/9/27 bruce : > hey... > > trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal > session. > > how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via > the cmdline... > > i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the > profile for the terminal. > > trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't > worked... > > thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... Follow the instructions at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html. You don't say which shell you're using, but using the default bash shell, you can do this: $ echo -ne "\033]0;A New Title\007" You'll probably need to unset the PROMPT_COMMAND value first; $ export PROMPT_COMMAND= > i'm running fedora 9 You know that's unsupported, right? I strongly recommend upgrading. hth, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome-terminal question
2009/9/27 bruce : > hey... > > trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal > session. > > how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via > the cmdline... > > i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the > profile for the terminal. > > trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't > worked... > > thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... Follow the instructions at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html. You don't say which shell you're using, but using the default bash shell, you can do this: $ echo -ne "\033]0;A New Title\007" You'll probably need to unset the PROMPT_COMMAND value first; $ export PROMPT_COMMAND= > i'm running fedora 9 You know that's unsupported, right? I strongly recommend upgrading. hth, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
ok took a look at the hoto that a few had referenced. it seems to apply to xterm windows, as opposed to gnome terms, but i went ahead and attempted to implement the escape sequences with no luck.. (could just be user error!) i also attempted to try to modify the underlying conf files for gnome-terminal, using the gconftool to dump the intial key/value pairs from my test gnome-terminal profile. steps: 1) create a test gnome profile 2) do a gconftool -- dump ./.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/test1 > testconf (this gets a dump of the key/values for the test profile) 3) modify the "title" element/key in the dumped file.. 4) do a load of the new/modified dumped file, to see if this gets loaded in the current gnome-terminal with the changed title --> gconftool --load testconf the changed title is in the testconf file. the gnome-terminal title is still the same, ie the changes i made aren't in the profile, although there was/were no error generated by the "--load" of the conf file i also reset the PROMPT-COMMAND to "" just in the weird case it was somehow resetting my changes... i've seen a number of people who've had this same/similar question, with no apparent solution... i'm willing to create a short step-by-step process once this is solved! thoughts/comments/pointers... thanks... -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Tony Nelson Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:36 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question On 09-09-27 19:19:48, Richard England wrote: > On 09/27/2009 02:09 PM, bruce wrote: > > hey... > > > > trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current > > gnome-terminal session. > > > > how does one go about changing the title of the current > > gnome-terminal via the cmdline... > > > > i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or > > modifying the profile for the terminal. > > > > trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites > > haven't worked... > > > > thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... > > > > i'm running fedora 9 > > > > thanks > > > > > > > Have you investigated > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html > > What have you tried? If you post your trials, someone may spot a > problem or we may be able to test it. I think the problem is that PROMPT_COMMAND is setting it each command, after you set it. Either unset PROMPT_COMMAND or change it to do what you want. -- TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com> ' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/> -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
hi tony... i took a look at the howto earlier when i was looking.. couldn't get the escape sequences to work correctly... i then figured that i might be able to create a new gnome conf file, and to change the title in the xml, so that anytime i started a new gnome term, i could use the modified gconf xml... changed the "title" attribute in the xml, but when i create the gnome term, using the new gconf.. no luck... so i'm missing something... thanks -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Tony Nelson Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:36 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question On 09-09-27 19:19:48, Richard England wrote: > On 09/27/2009 02:09 PM, bruce wrote: > > hey... > > > > trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current > > gnome-terminal session. > > > > how does one go about changing the title of the current > > gnome-terminal via the cmdline... > > > > i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or > > modifying the profile for the terminal. > > > > trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites > > haven't worked... > > > > thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... > > > > i'm running fedora 9 > > > > thanks > > > > > > > Have you investigated > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html > > What have you tried? If you post your trials, someone may spot a > problem or we may be able to test it. I think the problem is that PROMPT_COMMAND is setting it each command, after you set it. Either unset PROMPT_COMMAND or change it to do what you want. -- TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com> ' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/> -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome-terminal question
On 09-09-27 19:19:48, Richard England wrote: > On 09/27/2009 02:09 PM, bruce wrote: > > hey... > > > > trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current > > gnome-terminal session. > > > > how does one go about changing the title of the current > > gnome-terminal via the cmdline... > > > > i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or > > modifying the profile for the terminal. > > > > trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites > > haven't worked... > > > > thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... > > > > i'm running fedora 9 > > > > thanks > > > > > > > Have you investigated > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html > > What have you tried? If you post your trials, someone may spot a > problem or we may be able to test it. I think the problem is that PROMPT_COMMAND is setting it each command, after you set it. Either unset PROMPT_COMMAND or change it to do what you want. -- TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com> ' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/> -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome-terminal question
On 09/27/2009 02:09 PM, bruce wrote: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... i'm running fedora 9 thanks Have you investigated http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html What have you tried? If you post your trials, someone may spot a problem or we may be able to test it. -- /~~R/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
upgrading in no way gets an answer to my question! but thanks!!! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Hiisi Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 2:18 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question 2009/9/28 bruce : > hey... > > trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal > session. > > how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via > the cmdline... > > i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the > profile for the terminal. > > trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't > worked... > > thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... > > i'm running fedora 9 > > thanks > > Why do you need that? One thought: it's time to upgrade your system... -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome-terminal question
2009/9/28 bruce : > hey... > > trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal > session. > > how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via > the cmdline... > > i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the > profile for the terminal. > > trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't > worked... > > thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... > > i'm running fedora 9 > > thanks > > Why do you need that? One thought: it's time to upgrade your system... -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gnome-terminal question
hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... i'm running fedora 9 thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
change gnome-terminal "title" from cmdline
hey... curious question... how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... it appears that the escape sequences i've tried aren't working... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
non-resizable gnome-terminal
Does anyone know how to create a non-resizable gnome-terminal? The --geometry parameter allows me to set the initial size of the terminal but it can still be resized afterward. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11: gnome-terminal starts up in /
On 06/16/2009 01:03 PM, Joe Smith wrote: ... But the gnome-terminals I start from the menu, or from a panel launcher, come up with the shell in the system root: /. ... Hmm... rebooting has cured it. SEtroubleshoot suggested relabeling. I rebooted to do that, and when it was finished, the terminals are all back to normal. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f11: gnome-terminal starts up in /
I have a gnome-terminal instance started with my session; the shell it starts is in my home directory. If I start new terminal windows from that one, or if I start 'gnome-terminal' from a command line, they start in ~. But the gnome-terminals I start from the menu, or from a panel launcher, come up with the shell in the system root: /. This is only the case for my normal user account; if I login as a separate 'testing' user, the terminals there are all fine. Any ideas what I may have broken, or what I need to tweak to get all the terminals to start in ~? https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting gnome-terminal default size
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Is there any way to make gnome-terminal have a default size of (say) 90 wide x 30 high, rather than the system default of 80x24? I am getting tired of setting the size every time I start the system. Thanks - jon For gnome, go to System > Preferences > Personal > Preferred Applications Select the "System" tab, Change the terminal emulator from "GNOME terminal" to "Custom" and then change the command to gnome-terminal --geometry 90x30 or whatever size settings you like. HTH ~~R -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 02:47:02PM +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: > Erik P. Olsen wrote: >> On 17/01/09 00:48, Kam Leo wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paul W. Frields >>> wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields > wrote: >> You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected >> behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. > How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas? Personally, I just use a text editor. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ >>> Thanks. >>> >>> I did more googling and found another package that is not installed by >>> default: gconf-editor >>> >>> After installing the package you click on Applications->System >>> Tools->Configuration Editor and drill down the apps directory until >>> you get to nautilus-open-terminal. Click on it to open the file. Then, >>> you can set or reset the boolean for desktop_opens_home_dir. However, >>> I don't see any way to create an entry/value pair if one is not >>> present. Is there a GUI applet for that function? >>> >> >> I don't have this nautilus-open-terminal on my Fedora 10 system. Is it a >> leftover from an earlier release? >> > > No, > > it got lost when upgrading (I think) from FC7 to FC8. Scince these days, > it has to be installed manually (and will be forgotten at each upgrade, > that's my experience). It's a separate package Fedora has had since the Fedora Core 5 days. I think it's still not included by default, but it's been continually available since then. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpSetruT2yjF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
Erik P. Olsen wrote: > On 17/01/09 00:48, Kam Leo wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected > behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas? >>> Personally, I just use a text editor. >>> >>> -- >>> Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ >> Thanks. >> >> I did more googling and found another package that is not installed by >> default: gconf-editor >> >> After installing the package you click on Applications->System >> Tools->Configuration Editor and drill down the apps directory until >> you get to nautilus-open-terminal. Click on it to open the file. Then, >> you can set or reset the boolean for desktop_opens_home_dir. However, >> I don't see any way to create an entry/value pair if one is not >> present. Is there a GUI applet for that function? >> > > I don't have this nautilus-open-terminal on my Fedora 10 system. Is it a > leftover from an earlier release? > 'nautilus-open-terminal' is a separate package. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 17/01/09 00:48, Kam Leo wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas? Personally, I just use a text editor. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ Thanks. I did more googling and found another package that is not installed by default: gconf-editor After installing the package you click on Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor and drill down the apps directory until you get to nautilus-open-terminal. Click on it to open the file. Then, you can set or reset the boolean for desktop_opens_home_dir. However, I don't see any way to create an entry/value pair if one is not present. Is there a GUI applet for that function? I don't have this nautilus-open-terminal on my Fedora 10 system. Is it a leftover from an earlier release? No, it got lost when upgrading (I think) from FC7 to FC8. Scince these days, it has to be installed manually (and will be forgotten at each upgrade, that's my experience). -- Joachim Backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On 17/01/09 00:48, Kam Leo wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields >>> wrote: You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. >>> How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas? >> Personally, I just use a text editor. >> >> -- >> Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ > > Thanks. > > I did more googling and found another package that is not installed by > default: gconf-editor > > After installing the package you click on Applications->System > Tools->Configuration Editor and drill down the apps directory until > you get to nautilus-open-terminal. Click on it to open the file. Then, > you can set or reset the boolean for desktop_opens_home_dir. However, > I don't see any way to create an entry/value pair if one is not > present. Is there a GUI applet for that function? > I don't have this nautilus-open-terminal on my Fedora 10 system. Is it a leftover from an earlier release? -- Erik. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:48:35PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected >> >> > behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. >> >> >> >> How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas? >> > >> > Personally, I just use a text editor. >> > >> >> Thanks. >> >> I did more googling and found another package that is not installed by >> default: gconf-editor >> >> After installing the package you click on Applications->System >> Tools->Configuration Editor and drill down the apps directory until >> you get to nautilus-open-terminal. Click on it to open the file. Then, >> you can set or reset the boolean for desktop_opens_home_dir. However, >> I don't see any way to create an entry/value pair if one is not >> present. Is there a GUI applet for that function? > > Be aware that you're still editing your own ~/.gconf store at that > point, not the system-wide schemas or store. > > To make a new key/value pair, just right click in the key listing on > the right pane; the "New Key..." option should appear in the popup > menu. > > -- > Paul W. Frields Thanks, that works. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:48:35PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected > >> > behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. > >> > >> How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas? > > > > Personally, I just use a text editor. > > > > Thanks. > > I did more googling and found another package that is not installed by > default: gconf-editor > > After installing the package you click on Applications->System > Tools->Configuration Editor and drill down the apps directory until > you get to nautilus-open-terminal. Click on it to open the file. Then, > you can set or reset the boolean for desktop_opens_home_dir. However, > I don't see any way to create an entry/value pair if one is not > present. Is there a GUI applet for that function? Be aware that you're still editing your own ~/.gconf store at that point, not the system-wide schemas or store. To make a new key/value pair, just right click in the key listing on the right pane; the "New Key..." option should appear in the popup menu. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpMwbfpssmjK.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> > >> > You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected >> > behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. >> >> How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas? > > Personally, I just use a text editor. > > -- > Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ Thanks. I did more googling and found another package that is not installed by default: gconf-editor After installing the package you click on Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor and drill down the apps directory until you get to nautilus-open-terminal. Click on it to open the file. Then, you can set or reset the boolean for desktop_opens_home_dir. However, I don't see any way to create an entry/value pair if one is not present. Is there a GUI applet for that function? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected > > behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. > > How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas? Personally, I just use a text editor. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpnxTJXcKUcu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:48:09AM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Kam Leo wrote: >> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tim wrote: >> >> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote: >> >>> The fix is to run this as root: >> >>> >> >>> gconftool-2 --set --type=bool >> >>> /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true >> >> >> >> Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration >> >> changed? >> >> >> >> It works for me, done as me, here on my computer. I'd expect doing it >> >> as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be >> >> used to set a system default to be applied to users. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r >> >> 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686 >> > >> > I opened a terminal, did an "su -" and ran the command. Opened another >> > terminal after executing the command and the default directory changed >> > to /home/user. I logged out and logged in as a different user. The >> > change applied across the board for all users. >> > >> >> I stand corrected. A reboot and logging back in as myself shows the >> default directory going back to Desktop. Only root got the directory >> changed to home. > > You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected > behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. > > -- > Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:48:09AM -0800, Kam Leo wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Kam Leo wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tim wrote: > >> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote: > >>> The fix is to run this as root: > >>> > >>> gconftool-2 --set --type=bool > >>> /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true > >> > >> Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration > >> changed? > >> > >> It works for me, done as me, here on my computer. I'd expect doing it > >> as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be > >> used to set a system default to be applied to users. > >> > >> -- > >> [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r > >> 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686 > > > > I opened a terminal, did an "su -" and ran the command. Opened another > > terminal after executing the command and the default directory changed > > to /home/user. I logged out and logged in as a different user. The > > change applied across the board for all users. > > > > I stand corrected. A reboot and logging back in as myself shows the > default directory going back to Desktop. Only root got the directory > changed to home. You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected behavior. Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpOt8MZhLhLa.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:32:18AM -0600, Marc Schwartz wrote: > Aaron Konstam writes: > > > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10. > >> One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new > >> terminal > >> (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the > >> new terminal > >> starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/). > >> > >> Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the > >> later case, > >> is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/). > >> > >> Thank's a lot for any insight. > >> > >> Theo. > >> > > I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration > > Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help. > > There is a bug posted here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468293 > > with no follow up since it was posted last October. I just updated it > with the following info: > > > In follow up, this behavior is controlled in: > > /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir > > Note that this is NOT: > > /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir > > which will change the behavior of the terminal when opened from the > background menu, but it will ALSO make your desktop your home directory. As noted here, in the Fedora 9 Release Notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-PackageNotes.html#sn-utility-packages -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpjhgWcL3HUI.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Kam Leo wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tim wrote: >> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote: >>> The fix is to run this as root: >>> >>> gconftool-2 --set --type=bool >>> /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true >> >> Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration >> changed? >> >> It works for me, done as me, here on my computer. I'd expect doing it >> as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be >> used to set a system default to be applied to users. >> >> -- >> [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r >> 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686 > > I opened a terminal, did an "su -" and ran the command. Opened another > terminal after executing the command and the default directory changed > to /home/user. I logged out and logged in as a different user. The > change applied across the board for all users. > I stand corrected. A reboot and logging back in as myself shows the default directory going back to Desktop. Only root got the directory changed to home. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote: >> The fix is to run this as root: >> >> gconftool-2 --set --type=bool >> /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true > > Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration > changed? > > It works for me, done as me, here on my computer. I'd expect doing it > as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be > used to set a system default to be applied to users. > > -- > [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686 I opened a terminal, did an "su -" and ran the command. Opened another terminal after executing the command and the default directory changed to /home/user. I logged out and logged in as a different user. The change applied across the board for all users. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote: > The fix is to run this as root: > > gconftool-2 --set --type=bool > /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration changed? It works for me, done as me, here on my computer. I'd expect doing it as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be used to set a system default to be applied to users. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Kam Leo wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marc Schwartz > wrote: >> Aaron Konstam writes: >> >>> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: Hi, I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10. One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new terminal (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the new terminal starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/). Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the later case, is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/). Thank's a lot for any insight. Theo. >>> I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration >>> Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help. >> >> There is a bug posted here: >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468293 >> >> with no follow up since it was posted last October. I just updated it >> with the following info: >> >> >> In follow up, this behavior is controlled in: >> >> /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir >> >> Note that this is NOT: >> >> /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir >> >> which will change the behavior of the terminal when opened from the >> background menu, but it will ALSO make your desktop your home directory. >> >> This bug is probably more correctly filed against "nautilus-open-terminal". >> >> The following appears in the NEWS file for 0.9: >> >> Add GConf key for deciding whether right-clicking the desktop opens home >> directory or desktop directory. >> Use g_get_user_special_dir() to determine the desktop directory, and falls >> back >> to ~/Desktop (#468955). >> >> >> HTH, >> >> Marc Schwartz > > Google search is your and my friend. A search found this Ubuntu link: > http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/06/update-nautilus-open-terminal-behavior/ > > The fix is to run this as root: > > gconftool-2 --set --type=bool > /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true > Note: My email mangled the command above. It should all be on the same line. Or gconftool-2 --set --type=bool \ /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marc Schwartz wrote: > Aaron Konstam writes: > >> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10. >>> One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new >>> terminal >>> (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the >>> new terminal >>> starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/). >>> >>> Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the >>> later case, >>> is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/). >>> >>> Thank's a lot for any insight. >>> >>> Theo. >>> >> I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration >> Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help. > > There is a bug posted here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468293 > > with no follow up since it was posted last October. I just updated it > with the following info: > > > In follow up, this behavior is controlled in: > > /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir > > Note that this is NOT: > > /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir > > which will change the behavior of the terminal when opened from the > background menu, but it will ALSO make your desktop your home directory. > > This bug is probably more correctly filed against "nautilus-open-terminal". > > The following appears in the NEWS file for 0.9: > > Add GConf key for deciding whether right-clicking the desktop opens home > directory or desktop directory. > Use g_get_user_special_dir() to determine the desktop directory, and falls > back > to ~/Desktop (#468955). > > > HTH, > > Marc Schwartz Google search is your and my friend. A search found this Ubuntu link: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/06/update-nautilus-open-terminal-behavior/ The fix is to run this as root: gconftool-2 --set --type=bool /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
Aaron Konstam writes: > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10. >> One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new >> terminal >> (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the >> new terminal >> starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/). >> >> Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the >> later case, >> is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/). >> >> Thank's a lot for any insight. >> >> Theo. >> > I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration > Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help. There is a bug posted here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468293 with no follow up since it was posted last October. I just updated it with the following info: In follow up, this behavior is controlled in: /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir Note that this is NOT: /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir which will change the behavior of the terminal when opened from the background menu, but it will ALSO make your desktop your home directory. This bug is probably more correctly filed against "nautilus-open-terminal". The following appears in the NEWS file for 0.9: Add GConf key for deciding whether right-clicking the desktop opens home directory or desktop directory. Use g_get_user_special_dir() to determine the desktop directory, and falls back to ~/Desktop (#468955). HTH, Marc Schwartz -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote: Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: Hi, I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10. One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new terminal (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the new terminal starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/). Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the later case, is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/). Thank's a lot for any insight. Theo. Run gconf-editor Check the box under /Apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir Thank's a lot for this quick answer !! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: > Hi, > > I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10. > One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new > terminal > (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the > new terminal > starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/). > > Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the > later case, > is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/). > > Thank's a lot for any insight. > > Theo. > I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help. -- === Those who have some means think that the most important thing in the world is love. The poor know that it is money. -- Gerald Brenan === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting gnome-terminal default size
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 17:08 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Is there any way to make gnome-terminal have a default size of (say) > 90 wide x 30 high, rather than the system default of 80x24? I am > getting tired of setting the size every time I start the system. > > Thanks - jon > gnome-terminal --geometry="20x60" will open a terminal 20 wide and 60 long. You can take it from there. -- === General notions are generally wrong. -- Lady M.W. Montagu === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome terminal
Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: Hi, I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10. One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new terminal (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the new terminal starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/). Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the later case, is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/). Thank's a lot for any insight. Theo. Run gconf-editor Check the box under /Apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7321 Office: 228-688-5738 stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Gnome terminal
Hi, I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10. One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new terminal (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the new terminal starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/). Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the later case, is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/). Thank's a lot for any insight. Theo. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Setting gnome-terminal default size
Is there any way to make gnome-terminal have a default size of (say) 90 wide x 30 high, rather than the system default of 80x24? I am getting tired of setting the size every time I start the system. Thanks - jon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
starting gnome-terminal "sticky"
Hi,
two simple questions:
1. How can I start a gnome-terminal sticky (in terms of "stay in front
of screen") with a shell command?
2. as gnome terminal allows nice transparancy, how do I
a) make it work with ncurses applications
(rendering all bg colors transparent,
not only the default one) or
b) start gnome-terminal in a way that compiz can render it
(and _only_ that single window) transparent
so if anyone can answer this, he/she can get a free beer the next time
he/she visits berlin :).
regards
christoph
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Re: Mouse in gnome-terminal under ssh?? SOLVED
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:06:29 +, Beartooth wrote: > [X] Enable-mouse-in-xterm is still checked in the new Alpine > configuration -- but it no longer works. > > I find this an invaluable tweak, which my fingers have long since > adopted without requiring conscious attention. So now, of course, > suddenly I'm stumbling constantly in all directions with everything I > try to write. > > My host has long since forgotten how he made it work, and I never > really understood in the first place. > > Can someone here tell us? With help under the list, he found it! He writes : It was in /etc/profile at the bottom: DISPLAY="" export DISPLAY -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2.0.3, Epiphany 2.20, Opera 9.27, Firefox 2.0 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Mouse in gnome-terminal under ssh??
I'm most of the way through the throes of getting my main email account (*not* this one that I post from) shifted over from where it was to a domain of my own, still hosted by my remote ISP. Years ago, that kind host did something to make enable-mouse-in- xterm work, even though I ran the old account (and am running the new) under ssh, using a gnome-terminal under Fedora. (He also runs Fedora.) [X] Enable-mouse-in-xterm is still checked in the new Alpine configuration -- but it no longer works. I find this an invaluable tweak, which my fingers have long since adopted without requiring conscious attention. So now, of course, suddenly I'm stumbling constantly in all directions with everything I try to write. My host has long since forgotten how he made it work, and I never really understood in the first place. Can someone here tell us? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Gnome Terminal and Session management
Hi Dan. Perhaps you are looking for some utility like this: http://sshmenu.sourceforge.net/ sshmenu also works with ssh-agent. I have it installed, but I prefer to use bash-completion: http://fedoratutorials.com/2007/10/24/pow-bash-completion-bash-auto-completion-in-fedora-using-yum-and-more/ So if I type: ssh ar It shows me all hostnames from my known_hosts file beginning with "ar" Ashay -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
Richard England wrote: Dan Track wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I've got fedora 9 installed and I'd like it to store sessions for all my routers,switches, firewalls, servers etc just like putty and securecrt do. How can I manage that in a sensible way, I've got nearly a 100 different devices so a long list wouldn't be ideal, something like creating folders e.g network, linux and then storing the sessions in there would be good. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Dan Hey Guys, Can anyone give any thoughts on this? I just need to save profiles in a logical way! Thanks Dan Hi Guess no one has this type of problem. I'm curious how do you guys then manage all your servers and network devices? Do you memorise the hostnames or ip addresses and ssh or telnet in every time you need log in? Is there something fundamental I'm missing? Dan I add a "Drawer" to my desk top tool bar. That drawer contains a set of "Custom Application Launcher" entries that run in a Terminal and execute the command "ssh -Y -l @" .My login on each host contains the .profile/.kshrc/ etc files that define all the environment settings I need. I create custom Icons for the Drawer items that consist of the name of the system. HTH ~~R Yeah, well, that command line was pretty much wrong. You shouldn't use the -l option if you use "@". Sorry. ~~R -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
Dan Track wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I've got fedora 9 installed and I'd like it to store sessions for all my routers,switches, firewalls, servers etc just like putty and securecrt do. How can I manage that in a sensible way, I've got nearly a 100 different devices so a long list wouldn't be ideal, something like creating folders e.g network, linux and then storing the sessions in there would be good. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Dan Hey Guys, Can anyone give any thoughts on this? I just need to save profiles in a logical way! Thanks Dan Hi Guess no one has this type of problem. I'm curious how do you guys then manage all your servers and network devices? Do you memorise the hostnames or ip addresses and ssh or telnet in every time you need log in? Is there something fundamental I'm missing? Dan I add a "Drawer" to my desk top tool bar. That drawer contains a set of "Custom Application Launcher" entries that run in a Terminal and execute the command "ssh -Y -l @" .My login on each host contains the .profile/.kshrc/ etc files that define all the environment settings I need. I create custom Icons for the Drawer items that consist of the name of the system. HTH ~~R -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
Dan Track wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I've got fedora 9 installed and I'd like it to store sessions for all my routers,switches, firewalls, servers etc just like putty and securecrt do. How can I manage that in a sensible way, I've got nearly a 100 different devices so a long list wouldn't be ideal, something like creating folders e.g network, linux and then storing the sessions in there would be good. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Dan Hey Guys, Can anyone give any thoughts on this? I just need to save profiles in a logical way! Thanks Dan Hi Guess no one has this type of problem. I'm curious how do you guys then manage all your servers and network devices? Do you memorise the hostnames or ip addresses and ssh or telnet in every time you need log in? Is there something fundamental I'm missing? I manage a lot of machines, generally set up in load-balanced clusters. I use cssh a lot, so I have a rather robust /etc/clusters file. I can manage one 20-machine cluster by "cssh brsfe" and it opens 20 xterms via ssh to those machines. Other management techniques are to run webmin on the various machines and (assuming there are plugins in webmin to do it), manage them via a browser...just keep your bookmarks up to date. Another useful tool is KeepassX. You put URLs, usernames and passwords into it. One click will fire up the appropriate tool for the URL. You can copy the username and/or password into the paste buffer and paste it into the appropriate prompts from the machine you're targeting. If you need a windowing environment, there are vnc or FreeNX clients and servers for Linux and Windows machines. Linux also has "rdesktop" to speak RDP to Windows machines. There's a ton of tools for monitoring: Cacti, Nagios, OpenNMS, lots of others. In other words, "profiles" has many, many meanings and we're not sure what you mean by it. As I show above, there are many different management tools available, some more appropriate for certain tasks than others. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - To iterate is human, to recurse, divine. - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
Dan Track wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I've got fedora 9 installed and I'd like it to store sessions for all my routers,switches, firewalls, servers etc just like putty and securecrt do. How can I manage that in a sensible way, I've got nearly a 100 different devices so a long list wouldn't be ideal, something like creating folders e.g network, linux and then storing the sessions in there would be good. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Dan Hey Guys, Can anyone give any thoughts on this? I just need to save profiles in a logical way! Thanks Dan Hi Guess no one has this type of problem. I'm curious how do you guys then manage all your servers and network devices? Do you memorise the hostnames or ip addresses and ssh or telnet in every time you need log in? Is there something fundamental I'm missing? Dan As others have mentioned, most older UNIX/Linux admins don't use sessions. However, there are ways of doing things that most Junior admins I train don't know about and therefore, don't, or haven't previously, used. Firstly: Set your shell history appropriately. Personally, I keep 500, and set the shell I use to remember them between log ins. Secondly: Use sudo ALWAYS for administration tasks that require privileges. The /var/log/secure file can then be very useful. Thirdly: use a tabbed terminal, such as gnome-terminal, or better yet, konsole. In addition to plain tabs, konsole can send the input from one tab into as many other tabs as you like. Consider using konsole to log into everything on Monday mornings and just leave it there all week. Need to check disk space on a few servers? Take two seconds to bind inputs and check them all by typing df -h once. The new 4.1 version of konsole is GREAT! Fourthly: Learn to customize your own ~/.ssh/config file. The options are long and various, but consider at least these four, for convenience sake: ForwardX11 yes, StrictHostKeyChecking no, ServerAliveCountMax 10, ServerAliveInterval 30 Forwarding X11 used to be a default, but is not needed by most users, and is off by default, now days. With it on, you can ssh to a server, and run: sudo system-whatever-config and have it display on your desktop. Strict host checking off, avoids the 'yes' question every time you log into a new host, and especially, rebuilt hosts -- for us guys that rebuild lab equipment constantly, that one is useful! The last two, will prevent sshd from dropping a connection due to inactivity. Lastly: create a set of rsa and dsa keys, fix up an ~/.ssh/authorized_hosts file and copy that to every system you maintain. You will be glad you did, and its more secure than logging in with a password. Imagine, logging in using ssh keys with no passwd prompt is actually more secure than logging in using a password. Let that gel in your brain a bit. Good Luck! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there something fundamental I'm missing? > Maybe. And maybe it's not clear what you are asking to do. If you want to be monitoring those 100 devices, there are great tools like Nagios and Zenoss to give you a single web page to monitor them. For browsing files on the remote devices, the GNOME desktop has gvfs and fuse built in so that you can create a remote file folder over the network using SMB, ssh or ftp. You mentioned PuTTY. If you want to have consoles set up in advance, you can create a configuration file in your home directory, .ssh/config and specify the username, port, special keys or identies, and much more, looking something like: Host example.com User myname Port 8222 LocalForward localhost: Then, issuing the command "ssh example.com" will do the equivalent of the command: ssh -p 8022 -L:localhost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] much more can be found by entering 'man ssh' or 'man ssh_config' and far more learned at http://www.openssh.org HTH, -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:46:44 +0100 Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you memorise the > hostnames or ip addresses and ssh or telnet in every time you need log > in? I put entries in my /etc/hosts file for network devices that I need to manage, then either create Firefox bookmarks (I have a sub-section of my bookmarks file called "hardware") or make little bash scripts in my ~/bin directory to ssh or telnet me where I want to go. They are all named "channeltowhatever", so if I want to go to outsiderouter I type "channeltooutsiderouter". If I forget the name of a device I can do "ls ~/bin/channel*" or look at my bookmarks. I try to use device names that mean something, of course. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
Dan Track wrote:
Hi
Guess no one has this type of problem. I'm curious how do you guys
then manage all your servers and network devices? Do you memorise the
hostnames or ip addresses and ssh or telnet in every time you need log
in?
Is there something fundamental I'm missing?
Mostly, the tools I use have no concept of saving a session, hence
I don't save any at all. I mostly use the CLI, my GUI mailer, and
my GUI web browser. All real work gets done with the CLI. The
mail client I simply leave running 24/7, and the web browser I
use the history when I need it. When I use the browser to attach
to my router or DSL modem, I simply use the entries I have in
my /etc/hosts file.
So, normally I boot, I log in, and I just run 24/7. I don't log
out except to reboot about once a month, to do a full backup.
I have no need for sessions. I do use workspaces. I have one
for my mailer, one for browser windows, one for temp work CLI,
and one for my day to day work CLI. The temp work CLI has a
copy of GIMPS running in it, and on demand I create a CLI
window, do a little work/maintenance, and close it.
Perhaps that answers your question.
Mike
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Re: Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi >> >> I've got fedora 9 installed and I'd like it to store sessions for all >> my routers,switches, firewalls, servers etc just like putty and >> securecrt do. How can I manage that in a sensible way, I've got nearly >> a 100 different devices so a long list wouldn't be ideal, something >> like creating folders e.g network, linux and then storing the sessions >> in there would be good. >> >> Any suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> Dan > > > Hey Guys, > > Can anyone give any thoughts on this? I just need to save profiles in > a logical way! > > Thanks > Dan Hi Guess no one has this type of problem. I'm curious how do you guys then manage all your servers and network devices? Do you memorise the hostnames or ip addresses and ssh or telnet in every time you need log in? Is there something fundamental I'm missing? Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I've got fedora 9 installed and I'd like it to store sessions for all > my routers,switches, firewalls, servers etc just like putty and > securecrt do. How can I manage that in a sensible way, I've got nearly > a 100 different devices so a long list wouldn't be ideal, something > like creating folders e.g network, linux and then storing the sessions > in there would be good. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Dan Hey Guys, Can anyone give any thoughts on this? I just need to save profiles in a logical way! Thanks Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Gnome Terminal and Session management Query
Hi I've got fedora 9 installed and I'd like it to store sessions for all my routers,switches, firewalls, servers etc just like putty and securecrt do. How can I manage that in a sensible way, I've got nearly a 100 different devices so a long list wouldn't be ideal, something like creating folders e.g network, linux and then storing the sessions in there would be good. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gnome terminal: saving the layout?
Hi. There is a way to save the layout of gnome terminal? I want to be able to save the layout after resizing the terminal. I'm using Fedora 9. Thanks Marcelo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
