Re: How to build a linux based cheap (handheld ) computer
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:41:46 +1030 Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 22:55 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > > http://beagleboard.org/ > > Sounds intriguing. Has anybody actually played with one? Are they a > reasonable alternative to an ordinary computer? This is based on the beagleboard: http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to build a linux based cheap (handheld ) computer
| From: Tim | On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 22:55 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: | > http://beagleboard.org/ | | Are they a | reasonable alternative to an ordinary computer? In what sense? For most cases where one would use an ordinary computer (PC) they are not a good alternative. - a bare PC board doesn't fit well on most desks or tables. - it has no ethernet interface. They recommend a Linksys USB to Ethernet adapter. One more thing on your desk. - it gets power from something not included in the picture: either from USB or a wall wart (your choice). - a 600MHz ARM isn't as nearly as fast as current PCs. Probably not as fast as the OLPC XO's CPU (guess). - 128M of RAM is tight these days - At US$149 for the bare board, it doesn't compare well to a Dell Mini 9 netbook which has gone for as low as US$200. Remember that the netbook includes a case, power supply, faster processor, more RAM, "disk", display, and keyboard, all pre-configured. On the other hand, the Beagleboard looks to be quite interesting for some projects. A regular PC would be out of place on such projects. The question is a bit like asking if a wheelbarrow is a reasonable alternative to a pickup truck. Generally, they are best suited to different problems even though there is some overlap. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to build a linux based cheap (handheld ) computer
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 22:55 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > http://beagleboard.org/ Sounds intriguing. Has anybody actually played with one? Are they a reasonable alternative to an ordinary computer? -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to build a linux based cheap (handheld ) computer
Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:32:42PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Deboo ^ wrote: Can someone provide some links to build cheap / inexpensive computer (even with limited memory and no storage) which can run linux off a usb stick and can be used for basic operations. Isn't that basically what all these netbooks are? Not as cheap as you might like but the OLPC can do this. An 8GB SD memory card can be installed (or bigger). It is also possible to boot and run fedora from the SD memory card 8GB works OK and runs fedora (not as well as most would like). It has USB ports if you want to backup stuff or to add more storage than the SD memory card presents. I used a 8Gb SD card in my ASUS Eee PC that only has a 4Gb SSD. FC10 runs nicely on it. It is very limited in memory but clearly defines many of the issues involved in 'tiny' systems. With python and a shell activity window interesting and even _serious_ programming can be done. Wireless is wonderful, keyboard is child friendly (OK, too small)... The display is astounding... it is the only display I can read in FULL sunlight out on the patio of a coffee shop with free with a cupa WiFi. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to build a linux based cheap (handheld ) computer
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:32:42PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Deboo ^ wrote: > > Can someone provide some links to build cheap / inexpensive computer > > (even with limited memory and no storage) which can run linux off a > > usb stick and can be used for basic operations. > > Isn't that basically what all these netbooks are? > Not as cheap as you might like but the OLPC can do this. An 8GB SD memory card can be installed (or bigger). It is also possible to boot and run fedora from the SD memory card 8GB works OK and runs fedora (not as well as most would like). It has USB ports if you want to backup stuff or to add more storage than the SD memory card presents. It is very limited in memory but clearly defines many of the issues involved in 'tiny' systems. With python and a shell activity window interesting and even _serious_ programming can be done. Wireless is wonderful, keyboard is child friendly (OK, too small)... The display is astounding... it is the only display I can read in FULL sunlight out on the patio of a coffee shop with free with a cupa WiFi. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new hat, now what? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to build a linux based cheap (handheld ) computer
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 12:32 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Deboo ^ wrote: > > Can someone provide some links to build cheap / inexpensive computer > > (even with limited memory and no storage) which can run linux off a > > usb stick and can be used for basic operations. > > Isn't that basically what all these netbooks are? > > Kevin Kofler > Another option is a rebuilt system from one of the major distributors. I have purchased several from Microcenter (http://microcenter.com). They usually run from $150 US to just under $1000 U.S. And of course there is the possibility of finding some company that is going under and seeing what they might have for sale. There are also some distributors of older SUN computers that are reasonably priced. Just look around. My son in law found one that had been sat outside for trash which he recycled (it had a bad memory board). Regards, Les H -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to build a linux based cheap (handheld ) computer
Kevin Kofler wrote: Deboo ^ wrote: Can someone provide some links to build cheap / inexpensive computer (even with limited memory and no storage) which can run linux off a usb stick and can be used for basic operations. Isn't that basically what all these netbooks are? That is the way I see it... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to build a linux based cheap (handheld ) computer
Deboo ^ wrote: > Can someone provide some links to build cheap / inexpensive computer > (even with limited memory and no storage) which can run linux off a > usb stick and can be used for basic operations. Isn't that basically what all these netbooks are? Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to build a linux based cheap (handheld ) computer
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:00:03 +0530 Deboo ^ wrote: > Can someone provide some links to build cheap / inexpensive computer > (even with limited memory and no storage) which can run linux off a > usb stick and can be used for basic operations. http://beagleboard.org/ -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
