Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: snip And that's your problem, not my problem. if it cures having to change screen back and fort, then it works. UTF-8, are the US-ASCII ones. After that (character 127), there's differences. only characters needed to converse are less than 127. You have to use the correct encoding. it is not me using wrong encoding. If you're seeing changes in fonts depending on the encoding used, have a play with your client's font preferences. You might have to manually select font families for different encodings (named after localities, screw that. this whole thing started us-ascii and then a bunch of crazy asses, bgc included, came along and caused all of problems that make whole frigging problem. probably want to untick the option to allow messages to use other fonts. no way, hoza. like i said, i am not screen chasing. Fonts issues are one thing I really dislike about Firefox and Thunderbird, they've convoluted it all to hell, and use *pixel* sizes in a disastrous fashion. it is not fault of mozilla products. it is fault of those who keep trying to change it for their own personal likes. how else are you going to do it if you do not do it by pixel??? think about that before you answer. just look at what has happened. really. nearly every time you open a web page some clown has come up with some new whiz bang crappy new way to wow public. all it is is more and more waste. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlrTw+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAn61AJsHfTDgloupP6aX8e77xCuISvqkegCfaT1J qRFWukjTrPdRhLs2XNgM7CA= =Hmnq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 12:27:40PM +0930, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 19:40 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Yeah, it seems sometime in the past I lost my send_charset flag setting. So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Did you really lose the configuration setting, or was it still set? If what you've typed only uses the characters as in US-ASCII, then that's all it needs to send as (the first 127 characters of UTF-8 are the same as US-ASCII). Cutting and pasting into mail clients was a common problem with other systems, I don't know how Mutt would handle that. Though I think Fedora handles that all internally in the same way. Unlike some Windows clients, where a copy from a UTF-8 page into a client using Windows-1252 encoding, often went bad, as the copy and paste didn't transcode. mutt is an excellent console email client, but I don't think it guesses anything about the set of bytes my $EDITOR returns it, or if it tries to, it fails (as proven). Since my environment is an UTF-8 one, there's no problem to define send_charset as being UTF-8 Rui -- Fnord. Today is Sweetmorn, the 70th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: snip Did you really lose the configuration setting, or was it still set? get off yahoo and you could use ctrl+u. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlrZW+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAnwVAKCeXJ9ZpeCuLJvbNFGZUrt3+NYtJQCfdN5k e4IZ6fW2G/5pQ35Fyh73gW0= =EZZb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
Il giorno gio, 31/07/2008 alle 16.00 -0700, Antonio Olivares ha scritto: In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv but on youtube I can see the video but not hear the sound. How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using. Try the following: # yum install libflashsupport Report back if that did the trick. Not work for me: For test the new opensorce flash plugin today I have: 88 yum remove flash-plugin.i386 89 yum install swfdec gnash 90 yum install libflashsupport 91 ps -fea|grep fire 94 ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins -l 96 yum remove libflashsupport 97 yum install libflashsupport 99 mozilla-plugin-config -i -g -v Now, if I run firefox I have this plugin active: Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.23.2 Nome file: libtotem-basic-plugin.so The Totem 2.23.2 plugin handles video and audio streams. Tipo MIME Descrizione Estensione Attivo application/x-ogg - ogg Sì .. video/flv Video Flash flv Sì But if I goto on YouTube: Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. what's wrong?. Some suggest? -- Dario Lesca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Monday 04 August 2008, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno gio, 31/07/2008 alle 16.00 -0700, Antonio Olivares ha scritto: In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv but on youtube I can see the video but not hear the sound. How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using. Try the following: # yum install libflashsupport Report back if that did the trick. Not work for me: For test the new opensorce flash plugin today I have: 88 yum remove flash-plugin.i386 89 yum install swfdec gnash 90 yum install libflashsupport 91 ps -fea|grep fire 94 ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins -l 96 yum remove libflashsupport 97 yum install libflashsupport 99 mozilla-plugin-config -i -g -v Now, if I run firefox I have this plugin active: Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.23.2 Nome file: libtotem-basic-plugin.so The Totem 2.23.2 plugin handles video and audio streams. Tipo MIME Descrizione Estensione Attivo application/x-ogg - ogg Sì .. video/flv Video Flash flv Sì But if I goto on YouTube: Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. what's wrong?. NoScript? Just a thought. Some suggest? -- Dario Lesca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The hardest part of climbing the ladder of success is getting through the crowd at the bottom. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
Tim: And that's your problem, g: not my problem. if it cures having to change screen back and fort, then it works. It certainly is, if you're going to bitch about other people's emails not rendering intelligibly, as you've done before, when the only thing wrong is that YOU are mangling them. I think this episode is at least the third time that you've moaned about someone's text, when there was nothing wrong with it. You have to use the correct encoding. it is not me using wrong encoding. Erm, yes it is, when you force the client to believe an encoding is being used, when it really isn't. You were the one seeing mangled text, the rest of us saw it quite fine. The original post was sent correctly. And none of us had to do anything special, at all, to read it properly. play with your client's font preferences. You might have to manually select font families for different encodings (named after localities, screw that. this whole thing started us-ascii and then a bunch of crazy asses, bgc included, came along and caused all of problems that make whole frigging problem. Who, the hell, is bgc??? ;-\ For what it's worth, US-ASCII has always been inadequate, even for plain old English. Yep, despite what many would think, English, itself, uses more than A to Z, 0 to 9, and more than the scant punctuation found on the QWERTY keyboard. Accented words are part of English. When English adopts a word from a foreign country, it keeps it as is. Lazily over time, accented letters lose their accents, but the accented word is still correctly part of the language, and US-ASCII is *useless* for representing it. Ligatures are part of English, ENCYCLOPÆDIA is a correct way to spell the word in the English language, but US-ASCII is *useless* for representing it. And there's a plethora of proper punctuation that US-ASCII cannot do. probably want to untick the option to allow messages to use other fonts. no way, hoza. like i said, i am not screen chasing. Of course, everyone must pander to you. Everyone must use the lowest common denominator... I'll give you a hint - a hammer is not a screwdriver. And the name you're trying to say would be José, but US-ASCII is incapable of it, and you're not even close. You probably think voilà is spelt walla, too... Fonts issues are one thing I really dislike about Firefox and Thunderbird, they've convoluted it all to hell, and use *pixel* sizes in a disastrous fashion. it is not fault of mozilla products. it is fault of those who keep trying to change it for their own personal likes. The mess of font selection in Mozilla isn't their own fault? You try figuring out what they've done. Something is determined to be Western, or not, depending on whether it used ISO-8859-1, or UTF-8, and/or something else. And they certainly don't give you any easy way to select the same font for all languages, if you happened to have one that could manage. You have to plough through each region, one by one, customising each one individually, if the defaults aren't good. Those who designed Mozilla designed that mess, it IS their fault for such a crappy way of setting fonts. how else are you going to do it if you do not do it by pixel??? think about that before you answer. Um, you seem to have missed the POINT about how to set font sizes, pun intended. If the fonts *really* were 16 pixels as the program likes to pretend, on one screen they'd look like flea poo, on another they'd be quite big. Setting font sizes using pixels as the reference point is an incredibly DUMB way to do it, made even more worse by not actually using the pixel as the size (it's scaled, yet still calling itself pixel size). You can see that nasty effect when you do calibrate a system properly, putting the *real* DPI into your configuration (that's the dots per inch that's available to draw with, not something else). Font sizing should be done by a system like points, where you can pick an actual font size, absolutely, and the computer system figures out how many pixels to draw it with. You want 12 point type on page, you ask for it and get it in one go, without diddling up and down trying to find a pixel size that gives you 12 point text. It's made all the more worse when some dingbat web author doesn't understand this, and sets pages with 6 pixel or 60 pixel text, because that looks fine on *their* monitor. just look at what has happened. really. nearly every time you open a web page some clown has come up with some new whiz bang crappy new way to wow public. all it is is more and more waste. Talk about going off on a tangent... Yes, I am razzing you. You left yourself wide open. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
Il giorno lun, 04/08/2008 alle 06.47 -0400, Gene Heskett ha scritto: NoScript? Just a thought. Yes. I use NoScript, 1.7.7. But YouTube is allow. I have also test YouTube with another new user, with a new standard profile: The problem is the same. Thanks -- Dario Lesca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
Il giorno lun, 04/08/2008 alle 10.56 +0200, Dario Lesca ha scritto: Il giorno gio, 31/07/2008 alle 16.00 -0700, Antonio Olivares ha scritto: In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv but on youtube I can see the video but not hear the sound. How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using. Try the following: # yum install libflashsupport Report back if that did the trick. Not work for me: For test the new open source flash plugin today I have: Is this the answer? rpm -qi swfdec . Description : swfdec is a library for rendering Adobe Flash animations. Currently it handles most Flash 3, 4 and many Flash 7 videos. ... but not Flash 8... -- Dario Lesca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 20:59 +0930, Tim wrote: Um, you seem to have missed the POINT about how to set font sizes, pun intended. If the fonts *really* were 16 pixels as the program likes to pretend, on one screen they'd look like flea poo, on another they'd be quite big. Setting font sizes using pixels as the reference point is an incredibly DUMB way to do it, made even more worse by not actually using the pixel as the size (it's scaled, yet still calling itself pixel size). You can see that nasty effect when you do calibrate a system properly, putting the *real* DPI into your configuration (that's the dots per inch that's available to draw with, not something else). I agree, but I suspect the real culprit is the X image model, which deals with pixel-level coordinates for describing screen positions and sizes. A resolution-independant model would avoid this, but it's probably too late ... poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: snip As an added value, Mir� provides access to a huge network of video (longer than the 24h/day can provide :)) so just what in hell is 'Mir[0xef 0xbf,0xbd]'??? - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlaKV+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAiwfAKCMhvOAMJGTMXMdld0zSNIefGO9ywCgt4If OBv3oD0jsaQ0V5oQ7ArSI7g= =18Gb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Sunday 03 August 2008 13:20:37 g wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: snip As an added value, Mir� provides access to a huge network of video (longer than the 24h/day can provide :)) so just what in hell is 'Mir[0xef 0xbf,0xbd]'??? g - your encoding is poor. That character was an o with acute accent. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
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g wrote: so just what in hell is 'Mir[0xef 0xbf,0xbd]'??? An indication that either you have configured Thunderbird wrong, or else mail to you passes through one or more broken servers that made a mess of the character encoding. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Wilson wrote: snip g - your encoding is poor. That character was an o with acute accent. my encoding is not poor. i gave hexadecimal equivalent of what i read in hex editor. so what is program? - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFIlaaz+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAmJCAKCEC7JiQQQygES3V+aNcD9pWLOX0QCYlyjg 0pr+Rt6Hte/5gRVe0hUNLA== =z9LM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Sunday 03 August 2008 13:38:11 g wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: snip g - your encoding is poor. That character was an o with acute accent. my encoding is not poor. i gave hexadecimal equivalent of what i read in hex editor. Why? It implied critism where none was warranted. so what is program? No idea, bur Rui thinks it valuable. You could google it or decide that you wouldn't use it and not bother. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Wilson wrote: snip On Sunday 03 August 2008 13:38:11 g wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: snip g - your encoding is poor. That character was an o with acute accent. my encoding is not poor. i gave hexadecimal equivalent of what i read in hex editor. Why? It implied critism where none was warranted. why? why what??? what implied criticism??? No idea, bur Rui thinks it valuable. i thought that was 'bur rabbit'. You could google it or decide that you wouldn't use it and not bother. i did. looked real interesting, so i pulled tar and source to give it a try. site is www.getmiro.com in case you want to have a look. later. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlbId+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAlK6AKDT9E10NayeXTsRkhcTgF+tz5/BGACglZgV ZRpX+kEvZUOEoHp9Ny7oXkM= =6xAg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 12:20 +, g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: snip As an added value, Mir� provides access to a huge network of video (longer than the 24h/day can provide :)) so just what in hell is 'Mir[0xef 0xbf,0xbd]'??? The message was in text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1. Perhaps you need to check your settings for character encoding. BTW it's an accented 'o' (ó). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
g wrote: i did. looked real interesting, so i pulled tar and source to give it a try. site is www.getmiro.com in case you want to have a look. # yum install miro works fine. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rahul Sundaram wrote: snip # yum install miro works fine. it would, but this install is *security linux 5.4*, and is not in repos as of yet. i pulled what i did to build under this install. later when i reboot to f8, i will 'yum install miro'. at this time, i do all internet with sl5.4. when i do other personal work, i use f8. i am close to putting f9 on, but i am waiting for a few more bugs to be clear up. i do like something that is stable and not have to keep updating. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlbjj+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAiYsAJ9PVFAHFrPOpR1ZiOT9DOW37xNcngCfTiok vQbme4ZUoQ4+FvPmTPDBEvc= =gRB6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip The message was in text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1. Perhaps you need to check your settings for character encoding. it is set to utf-8. 8859-1 throws a '�', that is a double grave i, an inverted ?, an a '1/2'. BTW it's an accented 'o' (ó). that is what i see when you send it, but not when rui sends it. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIletE+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAuvPAKCkluz/V87P/TwH4pSG20MZaMbyjgCghmLg iYk6Jp8kivFDQxIe4L/2HEM= =Sfpe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip The message was in text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1. Perhaps you need to check your settings for character encoding. it is set to utf-8. 8859-1 throws a '�', that is a double grave i, an inverted ?, an a '1/2'. Just for your information, the two dots are called a diaeresis, not double grave. EF BF BD is the UTF-8 representation of the character U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER, which is described as used to replace an incoming character whose value is unknown or unrepresentable in Unicode. I see it as a white question mark in a black square standing on its corner. This probably means that some program took the ISO 8859-1 text, tried to read it as if it were UTF-8, found the byte value F3, and found that it was an invalid UTF-8 code. My guess is that it was your Thunderbird that did this. Have you forced it to read everything as UTF-8? BTW it's an accented 'o' (ó). that is what i see when you send it, but not when rui sends it. Rui's message was encoded in ISO 8859-1. Patrick's was in UTF-8. Both reached me unmangled. To see for yourself, press Ctrl+U and look at the header Content-Type. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Björn Persson wrote: snip Just for your information, the two dots are called a diaeresis, not double grave. thanks. 'double grave' did not sound right, but i figured someone who refresh me on it. EF BF BD is the UTF-8 representation of the character U+FFFD REPLACEMENT snip everything as UTF-8? yes. 8859 throws up garbage characters just as bad as utf-8, but utf-8 tends to keep it down to 1 or 2. Rui's message was encoded in ISO 8859-1. Patrick's was in UTF-8. Both reached me unmangled. To see for yourself, press Ctrl+U and look at the header Content-Type. i am up on ctrl+u. i do it to a lot of messages that i get to see what mail client is being used and what i am trying to read. rui was using mutt for that one. either he has bee around a while, or does not have his 'x' working. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlfkV+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAgePAJ0UbW+5OIwyxVebKJS144jTV6CYgACcCozR px37XxZjnnqjC3gHbFoKPmg= =Q/9F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 08:07:03PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: BTW it's an accented 'o' (ó). that is what i see when you send it, but not when rui sends it. Rui's message was encoded in ISO 8859-1. Patrick's was in UTF-8. Both reached me unmangled. To see for yourself, press Ctrl+U and look at the header Content-Type. Yeah, it seems sometime in the past I lost my send_charset flag setting. So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NOT NICE :) sorry all, it's now fixed. Rui -- All Hail Discordia! Today is Setting Orange, the 69th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 06:29:42PM +, g wrote: rui was using mutt for that one. either he has bee around a while, or does not have his 'x' working. Been around for a while, don't really trust Evolution, but use it at work for meetings and stuff in a Windows centric desktop LAN, and lost a flag which set the correct charset! X works fine ever since radeon-hd and radeon got Free Software support to the ATI card on this laptop. Fortunately it was only a few months of running at 1024x768 VESA on a 1280x800 screen :) Rui -- Frink! Today is Setting Orange, the 69th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: snip So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NOT NICE :) sorry all, it's now fixed. what i see is; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit glad to see you are still following thread. so, i must ask, did you take offense to how i phrased my question? if so, it was not intended as such and you do have my apologies if i did offend you. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlf4n+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAiXmAJ9IriGbkjZXLN9JPUlVl8QQHBP5hQCfWEeR qnTiS0b/04SFtXMrq0Hohb4= =Qh0O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 06:51:19PM +, g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: snip So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NOT NICE :) sorry all, it's now fixed. what i see is; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit glad to see you are still following thread. Purely by luck :) so, i must ask, did you take offense to how i phrased my question? Not at all, it was my fault, after all, that you got garbled [hex] content :) if so, it was not intended as such and you do have my apologies if i did offend you. Don't worry :) Best, Rui -- Umlaut Zebra �ber alles! Today is Setting Orange, the 69th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: snip Purely by luck :) glad you did. Don't worry :) thank you. now i can go out in back yard, chase off squirrels, and get grass cut. Best, Rui and to you. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlgF9+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAujnAKCFJ4Z9Xo7exKPIVqTm3xuIJK+/SgCfacxT 1lAJzjbK5MqUGc13Sm2qXtM= =Zfqc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
g wrote: Björn Persson wrote: everything as UTF-8? yes. 8859 throws up garbage characters just as bad as utf-8, but utf-8 tends to keep it down to 1 or 2. Do you often receive emails that are encoded in UTF-8 but claim to be some other encoding? If not, I suggest that you stop enforcing any particular encoding. Let Thunderbird use the encoding that is specified in each individual message, and all will be good as long as the messages adhere to standards. You may also want to review the thread Curious characters in Thunderbird on Linux..., started by Kevin Martin last Wednesday, 17:15:13-05:00. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Yeah, it seems sometime in the past I lost my send_charset flag setting. So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NOT NICE :) sorry all, it's now fixed. I don't see anything wrong in your message. The stated encoding matched the actual encoding, so no standard was violated. You may send everything in UTF-8 if you like, but you don't have to. What's important is that your email client specifies which encoding it uses, and it did. I'm not a Mutt user but I guess that if send_charset is unset it will automatically choose the smallest encoding that can encode all of the characters you used. In this case the ó couldn't be encoded in ASCII, but it could be encoded in ISO 8859-1, so Mutt chose ISO 8859-1, transcoded your text into ISO 8859-1, and specified charset=iso-8859-1 in the Content-Type header, quite correctly. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Björn Persson wrote: snip g wrote: Björn Persson wrote: everything as UTF-8? yes. 8859 throws up garbage characters just as bad as utf-8, but utf-8 tends to keep it down to 1 or 2. Do you often receive emails that are encoded in UTF-8 but claim to be some other encoding? If not, I suggest that you stop enforcing any particular encoding. Let Thunderbird use the encoding that is specified in each individual message, and all will be good as long as the messages adhere to standards. i tried that but type would change in size and i had to squint or lean back to read messages, along with stretching page sides. after going thru a lot of trouble, i have *all* settings to utf-8 and do best i can to figure out what crude is. as an example, you and several others, in some cases, your Björn is as here, in other places, it is an inverse question mark in a 45 degree rotated black square. some places, 'sender' column, it is just ? in 45 box. and i do note that it does depend on where you are sending from. which shows me that you do not have all you email set up same way. [yes, i use ctrl+u often] You may also want to review the thread Curious characters in Thunderbird on Linux..., started by Kevin Martin last Wednesday, 17:15:13-05:00. yes, i have been following it. and one of places you have ? boxed in sender. which, all in all, tends to tell me you like to play around. not knocking. just commenting. ;0) - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlj3S+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAhz4AKCEqXoPtnQ4Jf6F6b57Fz2oUD/SJACggrKM POCameIC+nPAaPqd2OA3IV8= =/zNc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 21:42 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: I'm not a Mutt user but I guess that if send_charset is unset it will automatically choose the smallest encoding that can encode all of the characters you used. In this case the ó couldn't be encoded in ASCII, but it could be encoded in ISO 8859-1, so Mutt chose ISO 8859-1, transcoded your text into ISO 8859-1, and specified charset=iso-8859-1 in the Content-Type header, quite correctly. Me either (not a Mutt user, I really dislike it), but that is the general rule for clients: Use the appropriate encoding (what you actually used), but send as US-ASCII if that's all that's needed. However, if you're preset to use UTF-8, it should be using just UTF-8 or ASCII, not some other scheme that could also do the job. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 19:40 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Yeah, it seems sometime in the past I lost my send_charset flag setting. So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Did you really lose the configuration setting, or was it still set? If what you've typed only uses the characters as in US-ASCII, then that's all it needs to send as (the first 127 characters of UTF-8 are the same as US-ASCII). Cutting and pasting into mail clients was a common problem with other systems, I don't know how Mutt would handle that. Though I think Fedora handles that all internally in the same way. Unlike some Windows clients, where a copy from a UTF-8 page into a client using Windows-1252 encoding, often went bad, as the copy and paste didn't transcode. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 05:51:55PM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv but on youtube I can see the video but not hear the sound. How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using. You can view YouTube videos with Miró, thus not needing the proprietary flash decoder. As an added value, Miró provides access to a huge network of video (longer than the 24h/day can provide :)) Rui -- Today is Pungenday, the 67th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
How to swee youtube videos,
In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv but on youtube I can see the video but not hear the sound. How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using. -- === You will give someone a piece of your mind, which you can ill afford. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv but on youtube I can see the video but not hear the sound. How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using. Try the following: # yum install libflashsupport Report back if that did the trick. Regards, Antonio -- === You will give someone a piece of your mind, which you can ill afford. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:00 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv but on youtube I can see the video but not hear the sound. How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using. Try the following: # yum install libflashsupport If your Firefox is 64-bit, you'll need both 32-bit and 64-bit versions: # yum install libflashsupport libflashsupport.i386 poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to swee youtube videos,
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:00 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv but on youtube I can see the video but not hear the sound. How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using. Try the following: # yum install libflashsupport Report back if that did the trick. Regards, Antonio Wonderful, that worked. Thanks. -- === Ignorance is bliss. -- Thomas Gray Fortune updates the great quotes, #42: BLISS is ignorance. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
