Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

2008-08-04 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 08:20:18AM +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
 2008/8/4 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  One thing I didn't notice was something saying *how* does it play those
  proprietary content?  Has it jammed in some naughty decoders under the
  hood?  Is it really going to be any better at playing risky content?
 
 I think Miro uses the free Xine library to view content. Many of the
 decoder are possibly patent-encumbered, but they are licensed under a
 free software licenses and available in Livna, unlike the proprietary
 Adobe browser plugin.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -qi Miro
Name: Miro Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 1.2.4 Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 2.fc9 Build Date: Sex 18 Jul 2008 
22:49:59 WEST
Install Date: Dom 03 Ago 2008 19:49:04 WEST  Build Host: x86-5
Group   : Applications/Multimedia   Source RPM: Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.src.rpm
Size: 22429793 License: GPLv2+
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Seg 21 Jul 2008 21:56:28 WEST, Key ID b44269d04f2a6fd2
Packager: Fedora Project
URL : http://www.getmiro.com/
Summary : Miro - Internet TV Player
Description :
Miro is a free application that turns your computer into an
internet TV video player. This release is still a beta version, which means
that there are some bugs, but we're moving quickly to fix them and will be
releasing bug fixes on a regular basis.


Not a livna version, neither the current libxine. Both RPMS are from
Fedora.

The thing is that I think flv is a container (I might be wrong) but the
codecs within may be (or not) supported.

With Miró, though, most problems I had were of reaching a youtube server
whose DB replica doesn't yet have the video I searched :)

Rui

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How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

2008-08-03 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra

So you want to view YouTube videos but you don't want to install
proprietary software? Namely that pesky Adobe Flash plugin, so well
known for being a multi-operating-system virus-platform?

There's a simple answer for you, just install Miró!

You can use your friendly GUI interface, or just open a terminal
account, elevate to root priviledges and install it like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ yum -v search miro
Loading refresh-packagekit plugin
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Config time: 0.287
Yum Version: 3.2.17
COMMAND: yum -v search miro 
Installroot: /
Ext Commands:

   miro
Setting up Package Sacks
pkgsack time: 0.904
Reading Local RPMDB
rpmdb time: 0.001
=
Matched: miro
=
Miro.i386 : Miro - Internet TV Player
Matched from:
Description : Miro is a free application that turns your computer into
an internet TV video player. This release is still a beta version, which
means that there are some bugs, but we're moving quickly to fix
: them and will be releasing bug fixes on a regular basis.
URL : http://www.getmiro.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su -
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum install Miro
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9 set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed for package: Miro
-- Running transaction check
--- Package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be
updated
-- Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

=
 Package Arq.   Versão   Repository
Size 
=
Installing:
 Miroi386   1.2.4-2.fc9  updates   6.6 M
Installing for dependencies:
 gnome-python2-gtkmozembed  i386   2.19.1-17.fc9updates 30 k

Transaction Summary
=
Install  2 Package(s) 
Update   0 Package(s) 
Remove   0 Package(s) 

Total download size: 6.6 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/2): gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.19.1-17.fc9.i386.rpm |  30 kB   00:00
 
(2/2): Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.i386.rpm| 6.6 MB   00:07
 
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Installing : gnome-python2-gtkmozembed   [1/2] 
  Installing : Miro[2/2] 

Installed: Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9
Dependency Installed: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386 0:2.19.1-17.fc9
Complete!

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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

2008-08-03 Thread Antonio Olivares
 So you want to view YouTube videos but you don't want to
 install
 proprietary software? Namely that pesky Adobe Flash plugin,
 so well
 known for being a multi-operating-system
 virus-platform?
 
 There's a simple answer for you, just install Miró!
 
 You can use your friendly GUI interface, or just open a
 terminal
 account, elevate to root priviledges and install it like
 this:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ yum -v search miro
 Loading refresh-packagekit plugin
 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
 Config time: 0.287
 Yum Version: 3.2.17
 COMMAND: yum -v search miro 
 Installroot: /
 Ext Commands:
 
miro
 Setting up Package Sacks
 pkgsack time: 0.904
 Reading Local RPMDB
 rpmdb time: 0.001
 =
 Matched: miro
 =
 Miro.i386 : Miro - Internet TV Player
 Matched from:
 Description : Miro is a free application that turns your
 computer into
 an internet TV video player. This release is still a beta
 version, which
 means that there are some bugs, but we're moving
 quickly to fix
 : them and will be releasing bug fixes on a
 regular basis.
 URL : http://www.getmiro.com/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su -
 Password:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum install Miro
 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
 Setting up Install Process
 Parsing package install arguments
 Resolving Dependencies
 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9 set to be updated
 -- Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed for
 package: Miro
 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386
 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be
 updated
 -- Finished Dependency Resolution
 
 Dependencies Resolved
 
 =
  Package Arq.   Versão  
 Repository
 Size 
 =
 Installing:
  Miroi386   1.2.4-2.fc9 
 updates   6.6 M
 Installing for dependencies:
  gnome-python2-gtkmozembed  i386   2.19.1-17.fc9   
 updates 30 k
 
 Transaction Summary
 =
 Install  2 Package(s) 
 Update   0 Package(s) 
 Remove   0 Package(s) 
 
 Total download size: 6.6 M
 Is this ok [y/N]: y
 Downloading Packages:
 (1/2): gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.19.1-17.fc9.i386.rpm | 
 30 kB   00:00 
 (2/2): Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.i386.rpm|
 6.6 MB   00:07 
 Running rpm_check_debug
 Running Transaction Test
 Finished Transaction Test
 Transaction Test Succeeded
 Running Transaction
   Installing : gnome-python2-gtkmozembed   
[1/2] 
   Installing : Miro
[2/2] 
 
 Installed: Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9
 Dependency Installed: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386
 0:2.19.1-17.fc9
 Complete!
 
 -- 
 This statement is false.
 Today is Setting Orange, the 69th day of Confusion in the
 YOLD 3174
 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown
 + Whatever you do will be insignificant,
 | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi
 + So let's do it...?
 
 -- 

Rui,

First, thank you for sharing this! :)
Second, do you know that this will work in x86_64 machine(s) running Fedora 9?
Third, Does it also play flash cr*p, like ads in Firefox/Google, etc?
This will make /me think about getting it.  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.26.1 #1 SMP Sun Aug 3 00:42:41 CDT 2008 x86_64 
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dmesg | more
Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
Linux version 2.6.26.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.3.0 20080
428 (Red Hat 4.3.0-8) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Sun Aug 3 00:42:41 CDT 2008


Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

2008-08-03 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 12:46:09PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
 First, thank you for sharing this! :)

 Second, do you know that this will work in x86_64 machine(s) running Fedora 9?

Unfortunately I don't have any x86_64 machine with Fedora, right now,
but since I have seen Miró playing you tube videos on a x86_64 mahcine
in Ubuntu, I exepect it will also work in Fedora for x86_64

 Third, Does it also play flash cr*p, like ads in Firefox/Google, etc?

Erms... what do you mean?

/me scratches his head... remembers whi he has adblock and NoScript!

I don't think it installs any Firefox plugin...

 This will make /me think about getting it.  

Try, at worst case you'll have wasted a few mega bytes of download and a
few minutes :)

Rui

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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

2008-08-03 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 01:38:32PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
 I visted a site that requires flash and I get the following:
 
 You need to install the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in to view all content 
 on this page. Do you want to download this plug-in now?

It's not a browser plugin, it's a a rich Multimedia application for your
viewing pleasures :)

 Also I tried to watch a controversial video from you tube called the Root of 
 all Evil
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2epvSAGuLc

For that video, just put it's video id code ( X2epvSAGuLc ) into the search
field and tell Miró to search on YouTube.

 But still thank you for sharing this, I will try it on i686 machine and maybe 
 there it will work.  

I think you misused it. It's totally unrelated to the browser, it's
another app sitting in the MultiMedia applications menu... :)

Rui

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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

2008-08-03 Thread Antonio Olivares
 It's not a browser plugin, it's a a rich Multimedia
 application for your
 viewing pleasures :)
Yes :)
 
  Also I tried to watch a controversial video from you
 tube called the Root of all Evil
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2epvSAGuLc
 
 For that video, just put it's video id code (
 X2epvSAGuLc ) into the search
 field and tell Miró to search on YouTube.
 
  But still thank you for sharing this, I will try it on
 i686 machine and maybe there it will work.  
 
 I think you misused it. It's totally unrelated to the
 browser, it's
 another app sitting in the MultiMedia applications menu...
 :)
Yes it is there, but it hangs while loading :(.  It is not working correctly.  
Thank you anyhow for sharing this tool :)
 
 Rui
 
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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

2008-08-03 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 19:51 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 So you want to view YouTube videos but you don't want to install
 proprietary software? Namely that pesky Adobe Flash plugin, so well
 known for being a multi-operating-system virus-platform?
 
 There's a simple answer for you, just install Miró!

One thing I didn't notice was something saying *how* does it play those
proprietary content?  Has it jammed in some naughty decoders under the
hood?  Is it really going to be any better at playing risky content?

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r
2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

2008-08-03 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2008/8/4 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 One thing I didn't notice was something saying *how* does it play those
 proprietary content?  Has it jammed in some naughty decoders under the
 hood?  Is it really going to be any better at playing risky content?

I think Miro uses the free Xine library to view content. Many of the
decoder are possibly patent-encumbered, but they are licensed under a
free software licenses and available in Livna, unlike the proprietary
Adobe browser plugin.

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