Re: [Fedora] IBM Netfinity 5000
The AIC-7895 is equivalent to the Adaptec AHA-2940U, AHA-2940UW, AHA-3940U, AHA-3940UW SCSI adapters (and others). (AIC-7895 is the chip on the card). The ql below are for an embedded QLogic SCSI controller on the motherboard. Reinstall the IBM system partition... then load you Linux release. Jack On 12/25/2009 08:05, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: We've got success. After the net install finished, first it wouldn't boot at all, so I went into rescue mode and tried booting the drive then only to have it tell it that it didn't have any bootable partitions. So, a little bit of grub-install magic, the system now boots without a problem. Next step was to run 'yum update' ... and while installing kernel-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686, I saw these warnings/errors: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko Possible missing firmware ql1800_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2500 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2400 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2322 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2300 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2200 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2100 for module qla2xxx.ko Is this something that should be addressed? For the record, the machine has an Adaptec AIC-7895, so I don't *think* the 94xx is even needed here. -- A -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] IBM Netfinity 5000
Jack Lauman wrote: The AIC-7895 is equivalent to the Adaptec AHA-2940U, AHA-2940UW, AHA-3940U, AHA-3940UW SCSI adapters (and others). (AIC-7895 is the chip on the card). The ql below are for an embedded QLogic SCSI controller on the motherboard. Reinstall the IBM system partition... then load you Linux release. Why? The system is working just fine. Rebooted with the new kernel and everything's working fine. -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:ash...@pcraft.com . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 2901 55th Street http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80301, U.S.A. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] IBM Netfinity 5000 - SOLVED
On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 15:13 -0700, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Jack Lauman wrote: The AIC-7895 is equivalent to the Adaptec AHA-2940U, AHA-2940UW, AHA-3940U, AHA-3940UW SCSI adapters (and others). (AIC-7895 is the chip on the card). The ql below are for an embedded QLogic SCSI controller on the motherboard. Reinstall the IBM system partition... then load you Linux release. Why? The system is working just fine. Rebooted with the new kernel and everything's working fine. You just should have added the SOLVED keyword to the subject a few days ago :) Maybe now this thread will die away. -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] IBM Netfinity 5000 - SOLVED
Jussi Lehtola wrote: You just should have added the SOLVED keyword to the subject a few days ago :) Actually, not quite. While the system is up and running just fine, with all updates and all, that doesn't solve the issue of those warnings received during the update process. That's why I didn't 'SOLVED' the subject. Those warnings don't seem to have any ill effect (to me), however I don't think it's ok either. So that why I was asking, is it something that needs to be addressed? Is it something I'm missing? Is it something with the update process? Is it something that's genuinely missing from the kernel? I don't know. A -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] IBM Netfinity 5000
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: We've got success. After the net install finished, first it wouldn't boot at all, so I went into rescue mode and tried booting the drive then only to have it tell it that it didn't have any bootable partitions. So, a little bit of grub-install magic, the system now boots without a problem. Next step was to run 'yum update' ... and while installing kernel-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686, I saw these warnings/errors: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko Possible missing firmware ql1800_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2500 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2400 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2322 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2300 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2200 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2100 for module qla2xxx.ko Is this something that should be addressed? For the record, the machine has an Adaptec AIC-7895, so I don't *think* the 94xx is even needed here. Unless you want to run the qlogic controller, ignore this. Is this the good ServRAID controller? It's an Adaptek with IBM firmware. Good board. Ran a bunch of them, TB of little tiny drives. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] IBM Netfinity 5000 - SOLVED
On Monday 28 December 2009 00:50:00 Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Jussi Lehtola wrote: You just should have added the SOLVED keyword to the subject a few days ago :) Actually, not quite. While the system is up and running just fine, with all updates and all, that doesn't solve the issue of those warnings received during the update process. That's why I didn't 'SOLVED' the subject. Those warnings don't seem to have any ill effect (to me), however I don't think it's ok either. So that why I was asking, is it something that needs to be addressed? Is it something I'm missing? Is it something with the update process? Is it something that's genuinely missing from the kernel? I don't know. As far as I recall, this is the artifact of the change in the policy of updating initramfs.img file while installing a new kernel. I forgot the actual bugzilla link (you can probably use google to find it), but the story goes more or less like this (I'm writing this from remaining memory of reading the bugzilla, might be way incorrect): The file initramfs.img is being generated on the fly by the kernel on boot, and is only declared to exist in the kernel's .rpm archive. Up to now, rpm would just create a dummy file of zero size and let the kernel fill it up later on reboot. But then, in some setups with a rather small /boot partition, it could happen that rpm checks for free space on /boot, finds it is big enough, installs the kernel, and when the time comes to grow the initramfs.img to its actual size, /boot runs out of space, and the update/upgrade fails *after* rpm finished and reported that all is ok. This has led to a lot of my /boot is big enough but upgrade still fails problems. So the maintainers decided to change the policy, and have rpm create a dummy file of some non-trivial default size in order to circumvent the issue above. But now the kernel rewrites it (and changes it's size appropriately) as usual, and when installing a new kernel rpm checks against its database and sees that someone has been tampering with the file. It issues a warning, deletes it and creates a new dummy. But then the running kernel sees that the file has been overwritten, and issues a warning that some modules might not be available anymore (those modules reside in the file, I guess...). That is, until the new kernel generates the contents of the file again on next boot. I am probably wrong about the details of this story, but what happens is something along those lines --- kernel and rpm confusing each other over that file during the update process. But the whole thing is completely benign, as the file itself is a dummy, and the kernel does not actually miss anything from it. That's how I understood the whole affair. IOW, you are probably safe to ignore those messages. They scared me too when I saw them during an ordinary yum update some time ago, so I googled out the bugzilla describing the above story, and essentially understood that those warnings are harmless. HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] IBM Netfinity 5000 - SOLVED
On Monday 28 December 2009 02:07:55 Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 28 December 2009 00:50:00 Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Jussi Lehtola wrote: You just should have added the SOLVED keyword to the subject a few days ago :) Actually, not quite. While the system is up and running just fine, with all updates and all, that doesn't solve the issue of those warnings received during the update process. That's why I didn't 'SOLVED' the subject. Those warnings don't seem to have any ill effect (to me), however I don't think it's ok either. So that why I was asking, is it something that needs to be addressed? Is it something I'm missing? Is it something with the update process? Is it something that's genuinely missing from the kernel? I don't know. As far as I recall, this is the artifact of the change in the policy of updating initramfs.img file while installing a new kernel. I forgot the actual bugzilla link (you can probably use google to find it), but the story goes more or less like this (I'm writing this from remaining memory of reading the bugzilla, might be way incorrect): Ok, I found the actual bugzilla in my firefox history: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544901 and a little better explanation here: http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/12/10/annoying-kernel-packaging-bug/ Now, while there are no actual references here to the missing modules problem, I somehow understood (googling around) that those messages are the consequence of deltarpm failing to deal with the initramfs file correctly. You may be seeing a completely separate and unrelated issue, but I would bet that your case is the same as mine. HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
Gene Heskett wrote: Then I would have to assume there is a hardware problem that memtest86 didn't exercise. But without being there, with schematics and my scope, I'm afraid I can't be any more help. My scope is probably too slow anyway, its just the usual dual trace 100mhz half computerized Hitachi, good to 200 mhz but of course way out of calibration by then. I can't help but make the assumption that it was the boot up process in initrd because any other disk I tried booted up past that. I even re-burned that disk just to make sure and got the same result; it would lock up at random points during those dots that show up ... However, it's all a moot point now. I got the system up and running, and configured. It's already in production with no problems. Thanks for all the insight! A -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
I had four of them. They came from IBM with the service partition installed. They also came with a set of SmartStart 8+ CD's for NetWare, NT4, SCO, AIX, etc. in the event you needed to restore them to their factory configuration following a disk failure. If the factory software is missing from the service partition or is corrupted that's what your problem is. Compaq rack mount DL-360's behave exactly the same way your describing when their service partition is corrupted or missing. When configured correctly Fedora 11 installs without incident. Jack On 12/25/2009 06:26, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Jack Lauman wrote: You need to boot up with the IBM NetFinity SmartStart disk and install a service partition for NT4. Compaq Presario DL-360 rackmount servers don't have a BIOS than can save parameters, as I recall from working on the NetFinity 5000 years ago at Gannett, they don't either. The startup parameters are stored on the service partition of the boot disk created with SmartStart. The machine was already running NT4. So whatever service partition it needed would've already been there. On the other hand, I don't ever remember having to do that when we first purchased it. It came bare, and all we did was stick the NT4 disk in, boot, manually install the SCSI drivers from a floppy and the WinNT install took over from there. That's not to say that you're not correct. You could very well be, I just don't recall ever having to do that. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
IBM Netfinity 5000
I have an old Netfinity 5000 server that used to run WinNT and I'd like to install Fedora on it, any recent version would do (basically, from 10 up). I started with a Fedora 12 DVD and it booted partway ... froze, then the screen said 'Cannot find root partition.' So I decided to try a Fedora 10 disc instead, same result. Tried using an F10 LIVE KDE disk, same thing. It just won't boot up. Hardware wise, it has 2 SCSI drives in it, and an IDE DVD drive. A dual head Matrox card has been put in to replace the original planar video on the board. Any suggestions where I should start diagnosing this beast? Thanks! -- A -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: I have an old Netfinity 5000 server that used to run WinNT and I'd like to install Fedora on it, any recent version would do (basically, from 10 up). I started with a Fedora 12 DVD and it booted partway ... froze, then the screen said 'Cannot find root partition.' So I decided to try a Fedora 10 disc instead, same result. Tried using an F10 LIVE KDE disk, same thing. It just won't boot up. Hardware wise, it has 2 SCSI drives in it, and an IDE DVD drive. A dual head Matrox card has been put in to replace the original planar video on the board. Any suggestions where I should start diagnosing this beast? Thanks! It sounds like a problem in detecting the DVD drive. Strange, if it is just IDE. I woud try some other Live distribution, just to have more data (does if fail? what kind of controller does it see? ...). Old glorious Knoppyx, for example. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 19:23 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: I have an old Netfinity 5000 server that used to run WinNT and I'd like to install Fedora on it, any recent version would do (basically, from 10 up). I started with a Fedora 12 DVD and it booted partway ... froze, then the screen said 'Cannot find root partition.' So I decided to try a Fedora 10 disc instead, same result. Tried using an F10 LIVE KDE disk, same thing. It just won't boot up. Hardware wise, it has 2 SCSI drives in it, and an IDE DVD drive. A dual head Matrox card has been put in to replace the original planar video on the board. Any suggestions where I should start diagnosing this beast? Thanks! It sounds like a problem in detecting the DVD drive. Strange, if it is just IDE. I woud try some other Live distribution, just to have more data (does if fail? what kind of controller does it see? ...). Old glorious Knoppyx, for example. Yes, it sounds indeed like an IDE problem. If you want to install Fedora, there's another thing you can do: just get the minimal boot iso, boot the system with it and perform an installation over the internet. If you have any decent connection, downloading the rpms shouldn't take that much time compared to their installation. Besides, on an old computer it might be worthwhile anyway to do a minimal install to get the system running and then install the extra packages you need with yum. -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 19:23 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: I have an old Netfinity 5000 server that used to run WinNT and I'd like to install Fedora on it, any recent version would do (basically, from 10 up). I started with a Fedora 12 DVD and it booted partway ... froze, then the screen said 'Cannot find root partition.' So I decided to try a Fedora 10 disc instead, same result. Tried using an F10 LIVE KDE disk, same thing. It just won't boot up. Hardware wise, it has 2 SCSI drives in it, and an IDE DVD drive. A dual head Matrox card has been put in to replace the original planar video on the board. Any suggestions where I should start diagnosing this beast? Thanks! It sounds like a problem in detecting the DVD drive. Strange, if it is just IDE. I woud try some other Live distribution, just to have more data (does if fail? what kind of controller does it see? ...). Old glorious Knoppyx, for example. Another possibility: Does it boot from CD1 of the CD distro? Once it hangs, can you change VCs (ctrl-alt-F2, etc.)? There's a shell on VC2 and a few different log streams on VCs 3-5. Maybe one will give you a hint. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
Those machines came with Smart Start packages like the older Compaq servers. You need to boot up with the IBM NetFinity SmartStart disk and install a service partition for NT4. Compaq Presario DL-360 rackmount servers don't have a BIOS than can save parameters, as I recall from working on the NetFinity 5000 years ago at Gannett, they don't either. The startup parameters are stored on the service partition of the boot disk created with SmartStart. These machines were produced abt. 1996 so I doubt if they will support a DVD drive. The IBM website may have the NetFinity SmartStart disk as an .iso image on their website... Compaq does. If this is a rack mount machine there should be 3 hot swap bays in the center of the front panel. They're attached to an embedded RAID controller so don't forget to configure them. Hope this helps, Jack On 12/25/2009 09:37, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: I have an old Netfinity 5000 server that used to run WinNT and I'd like to install Fedora on it, any recent version would do (basically, from 10 up). I started with a Fedora 12 DVD and it booted partway ... froze, then the screen said 'Cannot find root partition.' So I decided to try a Fedora 10 disc instead, same result. Tried using an F10 LIVE KDE disk, same thing. It just won't boot up. Hardware wise, it has 2 SCSI drives in it, and an IDE DVD drive. A dual head Matrox card has been put in to replace the original planar video on the board. Any suggestions where I should start diagnosing this beast? Thanks! -- A -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
Roberto Ragusa wrote: I woud try some other Live distribution, just to have more data (does if fail? what kind of controller does it see? ...). Old glorious Knoppyx, for example Unfortunately, Old Glorious is failing almost instantly. Using Knoppix 6.2 CD: Welcome to Knoppix 6 based on MICROKNOPPIX! Linux Kernel 2.6.31.6, 627 MB RAM. CPU 0: Pentium III (Katmai) @ 598MHz, 512 KB Cache Waiting (USB): Could not mount disk to /mnt-system. Starting debugging Shell... sh: can't access tty: job control turned off / # -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
Matthew Saltzman wrote: Another possibility: Does it boot from CD1 of the CD distro? Negative. It just stops loading: Loading vmlinuz . [ continues on ] Loading initrd.img ... [ stops at random spots ] Every time I did a hard reset and let it boot again, it would stop at a different spot while loading the initrd.img ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
On Friday 25 December 2009, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: Another possibility: Does it boot from CD1 of the CD distro? Negative. It just stops loading: Loading vmlinuz . [ continues on ] Loading initrd.img ... [ stops at random spots ] Every time I did a hard reset and let it boot again, it would stop at a different spot while loading the initrd.img ... Sounds to me like the next disk I put in it would be a copy of memtest86, you have flaky hardware. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Dead? No excuse for laying off work. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
Jussi Lehtola wrote: Yes, it sounds indeed like an IDE problem. If you want to install Fedora, there's another thing you can do: just get the minimal boot iso, boot the system with it and perform an installation over the internet. Amazingly enough, this is (so far) working. It booted the netinst.iso just fine and I'm watching the installation download and install packages right now. Knock on wood, hopefully it will finish, AND boot afterwards. With this machine having both hard drives on its wide SCSI bus, I'm just crossing my fingers that the install knows what to do. I'll keep you posted. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
Gene Heskett wrote: Sounds to me like the next disk I put in it would be a copy of memtest86, you have flaky hardware Actually, that was the very first thing I did before even considering the machine usable. memtest86 ran for 5 days non-stop, no errors. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
Jack Lauman wrote: You need to boot up with the IBM NetFinity SmartStart disk and install a service partition for NT4. Compaq Presario DL-360 rackmount servers don't have a BIOS than can save parameters, as I recall from working on the NetFinity 5000 years ago at Gannett, they don't either. The startup parameters are stored on the service partition of the boot disk created with SmartStart. The machine was already running NT4. So whatever service partition it needed would've already been there. On the other hand, I don't ever remember having to do that when we first purchased it. It came bare, and all we did was stick the NT4 disk in, boot, manually install the SCSI drivers from a floppy and the WinNT install took over from there. That's not to say that you're not correct. You could very well be, I just don't recall ever having to do that. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] IBM Netfinity 5000
We've got success. After the net install finished, first it wouldn't boot at all, so I went into rescue mode and tried booting the drive then only to have it tell it that it didn't have any bootable partitions. So, a little bit of grub-install magic, the system now boots without a problem. Next step was to run 'yum update' ... and while installing kernel-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686, I saw these warnings/errors: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko Possible missing firmware ql1800_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2500 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2400 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2322 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2300 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2200 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2100 for module qla2xxx.ko Is this something that should be addressed? For the record, the machine has an Adaptec AIC-7895, so I don't *think* the 94xx is even needed here. -- A -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
On Friday 25 December 2009, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Sounds to me like the next disk I put in it would be a copy of memtest86, you have flaky hardware Actually, that was the very first thing I did before even considering the machine usable. memtest86 ran for 5 days non-stop, no errors. Then I would have to assume there is a hardware problem that memtest86 didn't exercise. But without being there, with schematics and my scope, I'm afraid I can't be any more help. My scope is probably too slow anyway, its just the usual dual trace 100mhz half computerized Hitachi, good to 200 mhz but of course way out of calibration by then. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Lazlo's Chinese Relativity Axiom: No matter how great your triumphs or how tragic your defeats -- approximately one billion Chinese couldn't care less. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
