Re: KDE Wallet - why does it ask?
On Sunday 24 May 2009 22:45:42 Kevin Kofler wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I don't use Kmail, but AFAIK when Kmail stores the account password it uses Kwallet to do it. Presumably it used to be able to access the wallet automatically e.g. it was keyed to your login password (I'm speculating here) and that is what has changed. KWallet doesn't have a PAM module to key the wallet to the login password. You can set a blank password, then you won't get prompted for a password to unlock it (but that also means the encryption is easily reversible, you have to rely on standard *nix permissions to protect your keys). Use kwalletmanager. Configure it to not close your wallet. Use the tray icon to close the wallet if you need to leave your computer but don't want to log out. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE Wallet - why does it ask?
Kevin Kofler wrote: KDEWallet has started asking me for my password when I enter KMail. What exactly determines whether or not KDE Wallet asks for this? Is it a function of the application or of the wallet? Presumably you have some passwords for mail accounts stored in KWallet. Thanks as always for your help. I am accessing mail from two accounts, both from IMAP servers; but I have given the passwords for both, and asked KMail to store them. I assume this means that they need not be stored in the wallet? Also this has been working for ages, without being asked for my Wallet password. Some update seems to have changed things. So I guess my question is, how do I add or remove an application from my wallet? I did look at the KWallet handbook, and opened my wallet to look in there. I see that kmail has 5 passwords saved there, for items like account-1493402304 . How can I determine what account this refers to? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE Wallet - why does it ask?
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 15:43 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: I am accessing mail from two accounts, both from IMAP servers; but I have given the passwords for both, and asked KMail to store them. I assume this means that they need not be stored in the wallet? I don't use Kmail, but AFAIK when Kmail stores the account password it uses Kwallet to do it. Presumably it used to be able to access the wallet automatically e.g. it was keyed to your login password (I'm speculating here) and that is what has changed. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE Wallet - why does it ask?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I am accessing mail from two accounts, both from IMAP servers; but I have given the passwords for both, and asked KMail to store them. I assume this means that they need not be stored in the wallet? I don't use Kmail, but AFAIK when Kmail stores the account password it uses Kwallet to do it. Presumably it used to be able to access the wallet automatically e.g. it was keyed to your login password (I'm speculating here) and that is what has changed. How exactly does one key wallet to one's login password? Is that the same as giving no password to the wallet? The fact is, I do not understand how KWallet works. I understand the theory, but not how it interacts with different applications. But thanks for trying to help. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE Wallet - why does it ask?
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 18:40 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I am accessing mail from two accounts, both from IMAP servers; but I have given the passwords for both, and asked KMail to store them. I assume this means that they need not be stored in the wallet? I don't use Kmail, but AFAIK when Kmail stores the account password it uses Kwallet to do it. Presumably it used to be able to access the wallet automatically e.g. it was keyed to your login password (I'm speculating here) and that is what has changed. How exactly does one key wallet to one's login password? Is that the same as giving no password to the wallet? The fact is, I do not understand how KWallet works. I understand the theory, but not how it interacts with different applications. But thanks for trying to help. The blind leading the blind here, but I was speculating that it could be similar to the gnome-keyring-daemon, in that if your login password was used to encrypt the wallet, then it doesn't need to ask. However this doesn't seem to be supported by the documentation, such as it is. Sorry for the noise. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE Wallet - why does it ask?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I don't use Kmail, but AFAIK when Kmail stores the account password it uses Kwallet to do it. Presumably it used to be able to access the wallet automatically e.g. it was keyed to your login password (I'm speculating here) and that is what has changed. KWallet doesn't have a PAM module to key the wallet to the login password. You can set a blank password, then you won't get prompted for a password to unlock it (but that also means the encryption is easily reversible, you have to rely on standard *nix permissions to protect your keys). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
KDE Wallet - why does it ask?
KDEWallet has started asking me for my password when I enter KMail. What exactly determines whether or not KDE Wallet asks for this? Is it a function of the application or of the wallet? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE Wallet - why does it ask?
Timothy Murphy wrote: KDEWallet has started asking me for my password when I enter KMail. What exactly determines whether or not KDE Wallet asks for this? Is it a function of the application or of the wallet? Presumably you have some passwords for mail accounts stored in KWallet. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
