Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
Anne Wilson wrote: I don't think that akonadi is in any way implicated in this. You may well be right that you don't need it, but I don't think it has any impact whatsoever on this case. I did find a case where logging in as root can cause akonadi to fail, leading to failed kconf_update scripts, and apparent session pause. 2 ways we're tackling this: 1. identify kconf_update scripts causing akonadi to fire (even though it's not being used). 2. make akonadi usable even for root. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 09 April 2009 18:43:09 Robin Laing wrote: I will have to try removing akonadi. I have not found a use of it yet. Maybe it will fix some of my problems. Sure. It might make coffee for you while it's doing it :-) What makes you think that akonadi has anything to do with this? I've seen nothing in this thread to suggest it. Anne Anne, The post I responded to mentioned as quoted. Disabled desktop effects and yum remove akonadi it's working now. I am not using desktop effects and I have not seen any use for akonadi. I don't use most of the KDE applications that work with akonadi. I am at a loss for the freezes and lockups of the system. I am lucky to get 48 hours of uptime with F10. On the weekend I ordered new controller cards for my HD's as the chips on the motherboard are slow and more RAM. This weekend the computer locked up twice yesterday with no-one logged in needing system reset using kdm. I am not getting anything in any of the logs to point to a problem other than the odd disk message related to the controller. Some random kernel oops over the last two months where I get a pop-up about sending the info to the kernel developers. With my years of using RedHat and Fedora, this has been the worst experience yet. This install is not like the rest though and I do accept that I may have to remove disk encryption as one level of testing. If system loads are high due to encryption, it may be necessary. I am going to try the SysRq key settings and see if I have some success with getting some info. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 16:02:16 Robin Laing wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 09 April 2009 18:43:09 Robin Laing wrote: I will have to try removing akonadi. I have not found a use of it yet. Maybe it will fix some of my problems. Sure. It might make coffee for you while it's doing it :-) What makes you think that akonadi has anything to do with this? I've seen nothing in this thread to suggest it. Anne Anne, The post I responded to mentioned as quoted. Disabled desktop effects and yum remove akonadi it's working now. I am not using desktop effects and I have not seen any use for akonadi. I don't use most of the KDE applications that work with akonadi. I am at a loss for the freezes and lockups of the system. I am lucky to get 48 hours of uptime with F10. On the weekend I ordered new controller cards for my HD's as the chips on the motherboard are slow and more RAM. It's certainly true that KDE 4 requires more resources than KDE 3. This weekend the computer locked up twice yesterday with no-one logged in needing system reset using kdm. I am not getting anything in any of the logs to point to a problem other than the odd disk message related to the controller. Some random kernel oops over the last two months where I get a pop-up about sending the info to the kernel developers. With my years of using RedHat and Fedora, this has been the worst experience yet. This install is not like the rest though and I do accept that I may have to remove disk encryption as one level of testing. If system loads are high due to encryption, it may be necessary. I am going to try the SysRq key settings and see if I have some success with getting some info. I have read a good deal and come to the conclusion that almost all of this is related to video driver issues. You are probably aware of the fact that the first indication of the problem came when up to date NVidia drivers were found to make KDE 4 crawl. After talks between KDE devs and NVidia devs it was found the KDE 4 was using parts of the driver that had previously been assumed to work, but since nothing really tested them, it was theoretical. NVidia then set out to work on the problem, and I believe that there has been a significant improvement. I'm not sure what the situation is with ATi drivers, but those of us with Intel drivers are suffering a great deal. In my case it is just horribly slow, but I'm luckier than those that have suffered lockups. It's worth trying some of the tips at http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance - but what helps on one system seems to be totally wrong on another, so it's trial and error. However, many people have been able to get a considerable improvement this way. I don't think that akonadi is in any way implicated in this. You may well be right that you don't need it, but I don't think it has any impact whatsoever on this case. HTH Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
On Thursday 09 April 2009 18:43:09 Robin Laing wrote: I will have to try removing akonadi. I have not found a use of it yet. Maybe it will fix some of my problems. Sure. It might make coffee for you while it's doing it :-) What makes you think that akonadi has anything to do with this? I've seen nothing in this thread to suggest it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
GMS S wrote: Robin Laing wrote: [ Does the keyboard still work? Does CTRL+BACKSPACE kill the xwindows? New or old machine? I have had this happen on an older AMD machine. I am still tracing the issue down to something. My machine locks up from time to time. I see that the load goes up before it does lock up. Only once have I gotten a message in any log. I need to change a drive controller. Seagate drives? Could be related to the driver issue that there is an update for. ] Disabled desktop effects and yum remove akonadi it's working now. lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 01) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 01) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01) 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 14) Thanks. I will have to try removing akonadi. I have not found a use of it yet. Maybe it will fix some of my problems. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
I'm having this problem for a long time, I was informed that will be solved with kernel 2.6.29 ( including kms ). The bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476743 talk about this problem, comment there about your problem as well. Regards, - - iarly selbir | ski0s :wq! On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Robin Laing robin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.cawrote: GMS S wrote: Hi, rpm -qa | grep kde After running firefox or konqueror kde freezes but the mouse moves. Can anyone give any idea? Thanks. Does the keyboard still work? Does CTRL+BACKSPACE kill the xwindows? New or old machine? I have had this happen on an older AMD machine. I am still tracing the issue down to something. My machine locks up from time to time. I see that the load goes up before it does lock up. Only once have I gotten a message in any log. I need to change a drive controller. Seagate drives? Could be related to the driver issue that there is an update for. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
GMS S wrote: Hi, rpm -qa | grep kde After running firefox or konqueror kde freezes but the mouse moves. Can anyone give any idea? Thanks. Does the keyboard still work? Does CTRL+BACKSPACE kill the xwindows? New or old machine? I have had this happen on an older AMD machine. I am still tracing the issue down to something. My machine locks up from time to time. I see that the load goes up before it does lock up. Only once have I gotten a message in any log. I need to change a drive controller. Seagate drives? Could be related to the driver issue that there is an update for. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Kde freezes in Fedora 10
Hi, rpm -qa | grep kde kdepimlibs-akonadi-4.2.1-2.fc10.1.i386 akonadi-1.1.1-6.fc10.i386 [shib...@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep kde kdelibs-common-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 kde-i18n-Bengali-3.5.10-1.fc10.noarch kdegames3-libs-3.5.10-3.fc10.i386 kdepim-libs-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kdebase-libs-4.2.1-2.fc10.i386 kdebase-4.2.1-2.fc10.i386 kdesdk-utils-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 kdeedu-marble-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdeutils-printer-applet-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kdemultimedia-libs-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdegraphics-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.1-6.20090206svn.fc10.noarch kdeartwork-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 solar-kde-theme-0.1.16-2.fc10.noarch kdevelop-3.5.3-1.fc10.i386 kdegames3-3.5.10-3.fc10.i386 kdebase-runtime-4.2.1-2.fc10.i386 kdepim-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 lockdev-devel-1.0.1-13.fc10.i386 kdelibs3-3.5.10-1.fc10.i386 kdevelop-libs-3.5.3-1.fc10.i386 kdegraphics-libs-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kdegames-libs-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdenetwork-libs-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 lockdev-1.0.1-13.fc10.i386 kde-settings-kdm-4.1-4.20081031svn.fc10.noarch kde-settings-4.1-6.20090206svn.fc10.noarch kdepimlibs-akonadi-4.2.1-2.fc10.1.i386 kdenetwork-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdeutils-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kdesdk-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 kdelibs-4.2.1-4.fc10.i386 kdebase-runtime-libs-4.2.1-2.fc10.i386 kde-filesystem-4-23.fc10.noarch kdepimlibs-devel-4.2.1-2.fc10.1.i386 kdemultimedia-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdelibs3-devel-3.5.10-1.fc10.i386 kdegames-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdebase-workspace-4.2.1-7.fc10.i386 kdelibs-devel-4.2.1-4.fc10.i386 kdepimlibs-4.2.1-2.fc10.1.i386 kdeaccessibility-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdebase-workspace-libs-4.2.1-7.fc10.i386 After running firefox or konqueror kde freezes but the mouse moves. Can anyone give any idea? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
GMS S wrote: After running firefox or konqueror kde freezes but the mouse moves. Can anyone give any idea? what video hw/driver is in use here? Is desktop effects enabled? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
