New scanner/printer combo

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings;

My truly ancient Epson C82 finally refused to respond to the head cleaning
paddles yesterday, so I went out and got a new Epson NX515 combo scanner & 
printer.

It signs on as: (Fedora 10, kernel 2.6.32-rc5)
=
Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598891.940960] usb 1-4: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 16
Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079434] usb 1-4: New USB device found, 
idVendor=04b8, idProduct=0856
Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079437] usb 1-4: New USB device strings: 
Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079440] usb 1-4: Product: USB2.0 
MFP(Hi-Speed)
Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079442] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: EPSON
Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079444] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 
4C454C593037313524
Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079540] usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen 
from 1 choice
Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.087345] usblp2: USB Bidirectional 
printer dev 16 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0856
Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.088576] scsi10 : SCSI emulation for USB 
Mass Storage devices
Oct 23 20:27:20 coyote kernel: [598897.090894] scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access 
EPSONStorage  1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
Oct 23 20:27:20 coyote kernel: [598897.091362] sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi 
generic sg9 type 0
Oct 23 20:27:20 coyote kernel: [598897.101631] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdi] Attached SCSI 
removable disk
Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 717, 
in main#012h = HalLpAdmin()
Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 686, 
in __init__#012self.addPrinter()
Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 700, 
in addPrinter#012printer.add()
Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 541, 
in add#012location=os.uname ()[1])
Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: IPPError: (1025, 'client-error-forbidden')
=

which appears that the scanner, ahh, wait, its got a card reader in it too,
in addition to ethernet and bluetooth.  So that explains /dev/sg9 and /dev/sgi.

So there are two problems, which do not prevent it from being used for all
sorts of utility printing.

Problem 1 is that the newest Epson/gutenprint drivers are for the NX400 
series, so the maximum useable resolution is 1440x720, whereas it can go 
as high as 5760x2880.  I would like to be able to get to 2880x2880 for photo 
work.

Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.  
OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would be nice 
to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the coyote.den.

The current xsane device dialog skips it, going directly to the Epson 1250u, 
so xsane isn't seeing it, and while I have kooka according to the menu's, it
doesn't come when called.

Has anyone a clue to pass along?

Thanks.

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Sam Varshavchik]

Gene Heskett writes:


Greetings;

My truly ancient Epson C82 finally refused to respond to the head cleaning
paddles yesterday, so I went out and got a new Epson NX515 combo scanner & 
printer.


Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.  


According to SANE's database, this scanner is not supported by SANE.

http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl

OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would be nice 
to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the coyote.den.


It works because it is supported by SANE.

http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=epson&model=1250&bus=any&v=&p=

The current xsane device dialog skips it, going directly to the Epson 1250u, 
so xsane isn't seeing it, and while I have kooka according to the menu's, it

doesn't come when called.

Has anyone a clue to pass along?


Unfortunately, unless your scanner is supported by SANE, you're boned.

Generally, before buying a scanner or a printer, it is imperative to verify 
that it's supported by SANE or CUPS.





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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 23 October 2009, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>Gene Heskett writes:
>> Greetings;
>>
>> My truly ancient Epson C82 finally refused to respond to the head
>> cleaning paddles yesterday, so I went out and got a new Epson NX515 combo
>> scanner & printer.
>>
>> Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.
>
>According to SANE's database, this scanner is not supported by SANE.
>
>http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
>
>> OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would be
>> nice to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the coyote.den.
>
>It works because it is supported by SANE.
>
>http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=epson&model=1250&bus=any
>&v=&p=
>
>> The current xsane device dialog skips it, going directly to the Epson
>> 1250u, so xsane isn't seeing it, and while I have kooka according to the
>> menu's, it doesn't come when called.
>>
>> Has anyone a clue to pass along?
>
>Unfortunately, unless your scanner is supported by SANE, you're boned.
>
>Generally, before buying a scanner or a printer, it is imperative to verify
>that it's supported by SANE or CUPS.

The other 3 choices were Lexmark (over my dead body) HP but the ink colors 
suck, cannon (no reason, just general principles) and all the 500 USD color 
laser stuff.  If in fact there actually is scanner support from linux in any 
of these MultiFunctionDevices, I would be rather pleasantly surprised.

Many Thanks for the reply even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear.

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Louis Lagendijk]

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 23:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
> 
> My truly ancient Epson C82 finally refused to respond to the head cleaning
> paddles yesterday, so I went out and got a new Epson NX515 combo scanner & 
> printer.
> 
> It signs on as: (Fedora 10, kernel 2.6.32-rc5)
> =
> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598891.940960] usb 1-4: new high speed USB 
> device using ehci_hcd and address 16
> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079434] usb 1-4: New USB device found, 
> idVendor=04b8, idProduct=0856
> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079437] usb 1-4: New USB device 
> strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079440] usb 1-4: Product: USB2.0 
> MFP(Hi-Speed)
> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079442] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: EPSON
> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079444] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 
> 4C454C593037313524
> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079540] usb 1-4: configuration #1 
> chosen from 1 choice
> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.087345] usblp2: USB Bidirectional 
> printer dev 16 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0856
> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.088576] scsi10 : SCSI emulation for 
> USB Mass Storage devices
> Oct 23 20:27:20 coyote kernel: [598897.090894] scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access   
>   EPSONStorage  1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
> Oct 23 20:27:20 coyote kernel: [598897.091362] sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi 
> generic sg9 type 0
> Oct 23 20:27:20 coyote kernel: [598897.101631] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdi] Attached 
> SCSI removable disk
> Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 
> 717, in main#012h = HalLpAdmin()
> Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 
> 686, in __init__#012self.addPrinter()
> Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 
> 700, in addPrinter#012printer.add()
> Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 
> 541, in add#012location=os.uname ()[1])
> Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: IPPError: (1025, 'client-error-forbidden')
> =
> 
> which appears that the scanner, ahh, wait, its got a card reader in it too,
> in addition to ethernet and bluetooth.  So that explains /dev/sg9 and 
> /dev/sgi.
> 
> So there are two problems, which do not prevent it from being used for all
> sorts of utility printing.

> Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.  
> OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would be nice 
> to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the coyote.den.

and this is the strange part: why does it not show the scanner? What
does lsusb return? Does the scanner work under Windows? Not that it
matters much as the scanner seems not supported by Sane right now. But
maybe this is just a matter of adding the usb id

Louis

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Sam Varshavchik]

Gene Heskett writes:


The other 3 choices were Lexmark (over my dead body) HP but the ink colors 
suck, cannon (no reason, just general principles) and all the 500 USD color 
laser stuff.  If in fact there actually is scanner support from linux in any 
of these MultiFunctionDevices, I would be rather pleasantly surprised.


Well, there is one: Canon MF-4270: supported by sane, but not cups, so you 
get the scanner function, but not the printer function - haha. 





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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[roland]

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:45:40 +0200, Sam Varshavchik  
 wrote:



Gene Heskett writes:


The other 3 choices were Lexmark (over my dead body) HP but the ink  
colors
suck, cannon (no reason, just general principles) and all the 500 USD  
color
laser stuff.  If in fact there actually is scanner support from linux  
in any

of these MultiFunctionDevices, I would be rather pleasantly surprised.


Well, there is one: Canon MF-4270: supported by sane, but not cups, so  
you

get the scanner function, but not the printer function - haha.



HP CM1312nfi prints (hplip) and scans (Scantool).


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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 00:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> The other 3 choices were Lexmark (over my dead body) HP but the ink
> colors suck, cannon (no reason, just general principles) and all the
> 500 USD color laser stuff.  If in fact there actually is scanner
> support from linux in any of these MultiFunctionDevices, I would be
> rather pleasantly surprised.

My HP C5180 works perfectly both for scanning and printing, plus I have
it network-connected so other people can also use it. It installed
trivially with hplip. I have no problem with the print quality but I'm
not doing photo work. I would probably go for another HP next time,
despite the horrendous cost of the ink cartridges.

poc

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Partha Chowdhury]

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 09:25:00AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> My HP C5180 works perfectly both for scanning and printing, plus I have
> it network-connected so other people can also use it. It installed
> trivially with hplip. I have no problem with the print quality but I'm
> not doing photo work. I would probably go for another HP next time,
> despite the horrendous cost of the ink cartridges.
> 

i also have a similar machine and it works fine.

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Wendell Nichols]

Partha Chowdhury wrote:

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 09:25:00AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  

My HP C5180 works perfectly both for scanning and printing, plus I have
it network-connected so other people can also use it. It installed
trivially with hplip. I have no problem with the print quality but I'm
not doing photo work. I would probably go for another HP next time,
despite the horrendous cost of the ink cartridges.




i also have a similar machine and it works fine.

  
I have an hpc7250.  Works great and all functionality is available in 
linux.  Ink's expensive though...


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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 24 October 2009, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
>On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 23:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings;
>>
>> My truly ancient Epson C82 finally refused to respond to the head
>> cleaning paddles yesterday, so I went out and got a new Epson NX515 combo
>> scanner & printer.
>>
>> It signs on as: (Fedora 10, kernel 2.6.32-rc5)
>> =
>> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598891.940960] usb 1-4: new high speed
>> USB device using ehci_hcd and address 16 Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel:
>> [598892.079434] usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=04b8,
>> idProduct=0856 Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079437] usb 1-4:
>> New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Oct 23 20:27:15
>> coyote kernel: [598892.079440] usb 1-4: Product: USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed) Oct
>> 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079442] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: EPSON
>> Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079444] usb 1-4: SerialNumber:
>> 4C454C593037313524 Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.079540] usb
>> 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel:
>> [598892.087345] usblp2: USB Bidirectional printer dev 16 if 1 alt 0 proto
>> 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0856 Oct 23 20:27:15 coyote kernel: [598892.088576]
>> scsi10 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 23 20:27:20
>> coyote kernel: [598897.090894] scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access EPSON   
>> Storage  1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 Oct 23 20:27:20 coyote kernel:
>> [598897.091362] sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg9 type 0 Oct 23
>> 20:27:20 coyote kernel: [598897.101631] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdi] Attached SCSI
>> removable disk Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File
>> "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 717, in main#012h = HalLpAdmin() Oct
>> 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line
>> 686, in __init__#012self.addPrinter() Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote
>> hal_lpadmin: File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 700, in addPrinter#012
>>printer.add() Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: File
>> "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 541, in add#012location=os.uname
>> ()[1]) Oct 23 20:27:23 coyote hal_lpadmin: IPPError: (1025,
>> 'client-error-forbidden') =
>>
>> which appears that the scanner, ahh, wait, its got a card reader in it
>> too, in addition to ethernet and bluetooth.  So that explains /dev/sg9
>> and /dev/sgi.
>>
>> So there are two problems, which do not prevent it from being used for
>> all sorts of utility printing.
>>
>> Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.
>> OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would be
>> nice to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the coyote.den.
>
>and this is the strange part: why does it not show the scanner? What
>does lsusb return? Does the scanner work under Windows? Not that it
>matters much as the scanner seems not supported by Sane right now. But
>maybe this is just a matter of adding the usb id
>
>Louis
>
The scanner does show in an lsusb -v, but not without the -v, here is a 
snippet:
==
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0856 Seiko Epson Corp. 
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00
  bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass 0 
  bDeviceProtocol 0 
  bMaxPacketSize064
  idVendor   0x04b8 Seiko Epson Corp.
  idProduct  0x0856 
  bcdDevice1.00
  iManufacturer   1 EPSON
  iProduct2 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
  iSerial 3 4C454C593037313524
  bNumConfigurations  1
  Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength   78
bNumInterfaces  3
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration  4 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
bmAttributes 0xc0
  Self Powered
MaxPower2mA
Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber0
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   2
  bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
  bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  iInterface  5 EPSON Scanner
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01  EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
bInterval   0
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x82  EP 2 IN
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Ty

Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Tom Horsley]

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:25:00 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> My HP C5180 works perfectly both for scanning and printing

Yep, I'm afraid the only choice is HP products and hplip
(which has support for virtually all the HP all-in-one
devices, but be sure to check the hplip compatibility
list or you are bound to get the one that happens to
not be supported).

My C5580 was the very first totally hassle free plug & play
experience I had with any usb device more complex than a
memory stick. I plugged it in, the printer definition
appeared, the scanner device appeared, and everything
just worked. (Took me an hour to recover from the shock :-).

The only problems I've had since then are DVD/CD printing
support getting alternately broken and fixed in each new
hplip release - right now I have to boot to my fedora 12
partition to print a DVD (I think - I might not have tested
it since the last f11 hplip update).

The other thing that totally astounds me about HP is they
don't market the linux support. There is no penguin on
the boxes they come in, no mention of linux on the hp
product web sites. You'd think they wouldn't mind the
additional sales they'd get if linux users actually found
out about their support.

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 24 October 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 00:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> The other 3 choices were Lexmark (over my dead body) HP but the ink
>> colors suck, cannon (no reason, just general principles) and all the
>> 500 USD color laser stuff.  If in fact there actually is scanner
>> support from linux in any of these MultiFunctionDevices, I would be
>> rather pleasantly surprised.
>
>My HP C5180 works perfectly both for scanning and printing, plus I have
>it network-connected so other people can also use it. It installed
>trivially with hplip. I have no problem with the print quality but I'm
>not doing photo work. I would probably go for another HP next time,
>despite the horrendous cost of the ink cartridges.
>
>poc
>
That is great, but while a neighbor has one of those, I didn't see one on the 
display shelves yesterday.  Probably that model is out of the supply 
pipelines today.

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:13 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >My HP C5180 works perfectly both for scanning and printing, plus I
> have
> >it network-connected so other people can also use it. It installed
> >trivially with hplip. I have no problem with the print quality but
> I'm
> >not doing photo work. I would probably go for another HP next time,
> >despite the horrendous cost of the ink cartridges.
> >
> >poc
> >
> That is great, but while a neighbor has one of those, I didn't see one
> on the 
> display shelves yesterday.  Probably that model is out of the supply 
> pipelines today.

The specific model isn't that important (in fact mine is over a year old
so it's probably no longer made).

poc

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:25:00 -0430
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > My HP C5180 works perfectly both for scanning and printing
> 
> Yep, I'm afraid the only choice is HP products and hplip
> (which has support for virtually all the HP all-in-one
> devices, but be sure to check the hplip compatibility
> list or you are bound to get the one that happens to
> not be supported).

[...]

> The other thing that totally astounds me about HP is they
> don't market the linux support. There is no penguin on
> the boxes they come in, no mention of linux on the hp
> product web sites. You'd think they wouldn't mind the
> additional sales they'd get if linux users actually found
> out about their support.

I may have mentioned this when I first got the thing but it bears
repeating. I installed the device on 3 systems:

1) My wife's iMac: printing worked immediately, still haven't bothered
installing scanner software, which MacOS doesn't have OOB.

2) My Linux box: as stated, hplip sorted it out in no time.

3) My daughter's Windows Vista laptop: didn't work. Downloaded updated
software. Didn't work. Contacted HP Support. Didn't work. Contacted HP
Support again (repeat 3 or 4 times over about a week). After several
downloads, burning CDs and general fraking around, got the printer to
work most of the time. Gave up on the scanner.

Of course the only system mentioned on the box is Windows ...

poc

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Louis Lagendijk]

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:10 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 24 October 2009, Louis Lagendijk wrote:

> >>
> >> Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.
> >> OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would be
> >> nice to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the coyote.den.
> >
> >and this is the strange part: why does it not show the scanner? What
> >does lsusb return? Does the scanner work under Windows? Not that it
> >matters much as the scanner seems not supported by Sane right now. But
> >maybe this is just a matter of adding the usb id
> >
> >Louis
> >
> The scanner does show in an lsusb -v, but not without the -v, here is a 
> snippet:
> ==
> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0856 Seiko Epson Corp. 
> Device Descriptor:
>   bLength18
>   bDescriptorType 1
>   bcdUSB   2.00
>   bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
>   bDeviceSubClass 0 
>   bDeviceProtocol 0 
>   bMaxPacketSize064
>   idVendor   0x04b8 Seiko Epson Corp.
>   idProduct  0x0856 
>   bcdDevice1.00
>   iManufacturer   1 EPSON
>   iProduct2 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
>   iSerial 3 4C454C593037313524
>   bNumConfigurations  1
>   Configuration Descriptor:
> bLength 9
> bDescriptorType 2
> wTotalLength   78
> bNumInterfaces  3
> bConfigurationValue 1
> iConfiguration  4 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
> bmAttributes 0xc0
>   Self Powered
> MaxPower2mA
> Interface Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType 4
>   bInterfaceNumber0
>   bAlternateSetting   0
>   bNumEndpoints   2
>   bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
>   bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
>   bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
>   iInterface  5 EPSON Scanner
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x01  EP 1 OUT
> bmAttributes2
>   Transfer TypeBulk
>   Synch Type   None
>   Usage Type   Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
> bInterval   0
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x82  EP 2 IN
> bmAttributes2
>   Transfer TypeBulk
>   Synch Type   None
>   Usage Type   Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
> bInterval   0
> Interface Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType 4
>   bInterfaceNumber1
>   bAlternateSetting   0
>   bNumEndpoints   2
>   bInterfaceClass 7 Printer
>   bInterfaceSubClass  1 Printer
>   bInterfaceProtocol  2 Bidirectional
>   iInterface  6 USB2.0 Printer
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x04  EP 4 OUT
> bmAttributes2
>   Transfer TypeBulk
>   Synch Type   None
>   Usage Type   Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
> bInterval   0
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x85  EP 5 IN
> bmAttributes2
>   Transfer TypeBulk
>   Synch Type   None
>   Usage Type   Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
> bInterval   0
> Interface Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType 4
>   bInterfaceNumber2
>   bAlternateSetting   0
>   bNumEndpoints   2
>   bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
>   bInterfaceSubClass  6 SCSI
>   bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)
>   iInterface  7 USB2.0 Mass Storage
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x07  EP 7 OUT
> bmAttributes2
>   Transfer TypeBulk
>   Synch Type   None
>   Usage Type   Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
> bInterval   0
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x88  EP 8 IN
> bmAttributes  

Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 24 October 2009, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
>On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:10 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Saturday 24 October 2009, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
>> >> Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.
>> >> OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would
>> >> be nice to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the
>> >> coyote.den.
>> >
>> >and this is the strange part: why does it not show the scanner? What
>> >does lsusb return? Does the scanner work under Windows? Not that it
>> >matters much as the scanner seems not supported by Sane right now. But
>> >maybe this is just a matter of adding the usb id
>> >
>> >Louis
>>
>> The scanner does show in an lsusb -v, but not without the -v, here is a
>> snippet:
>> ==
>> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0856 Seiko Epson Corp.
>> Device Descriptor:
>>   bLength18
>>   bDescriptorType 1
>>   bcdUSB   2.00
>>   bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
>>   bDeviceSubClass 0
>>   bDeviceProtocol 0
>>   bMaxPacketSize064
>>   idVendor   0x04b8 Seiko Epson Corp.
>>   idProduct  0x0856
>>   bcdDevice1.00
>>   iManufacturer   1 EPSON
>>   iProduct2 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
>>   iSerial 3 4C454C593037313524
>>   bNumConfigurations  1
>>   Configuration Descriptor:
>> bLength 9
>> bDescriptorType 2
>> wTotalLength   78
>> bNumInterfaces  3
>> bConfigurationValue 1
>> iConfiguration  4 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
>> bmAttributes 0xc0
>>   Self Powered
>> MaxPower2mA
>> Interface Descriptor:
>>   bLength 9
>>   bDescriptorType 4
>>   bInterfaceNumber0
>>   bAlternateSetting   0
>>   bNumEndpoints   2
>>   bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
>>   bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
>>   bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
>>   iInterface  5 EPSON Scanner
>>   Endpoint Descriptor:
>> bLength 7
>> bDescriptorType 5
>> bEndpointAddress 0x01  EP 1 OUT
>> bmAttributes2
>>   Transfer TypeBulk
>>   Synch Type   None
>>   Usage Type   Data
>> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
>> bInterval   0
>>   Endpoint Descriptor:
>> bLength 7
>> bDescriptorType 5
>> bEndpointAddress 0x82  EP 2 IN
>> bmAttributes2
>>   Transfer TypeBulk
>>   Synch Type   None
>>   Usage Type   Data
>> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
>> bInterval   0
>> Interface Descriptor:
>>   bLength 9
>>   bDescriptorType 4
>>   bInterfaceNumber1
>>   bAlternateSetting   0
>>   bNumEndpoints   2
>>   bInterfaceClass 7 Printer
>>   bInterfaceSubClass  1 Printer
>>   bInterfaceProtocol  2 Bidirectional
>>   iInterface  6 USB2.0 Printer
>>   Endpoint Descriptor:
>> bLength 7
>> bDescriptorType 5
>> bEndpointAddress 0x04  EP 4 OUT
>> bmAttributes2
>>   Transfer TypeBulk
>>   Synch Type   None
>>   Usage Type   Data
>> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
>> bInterval   0
>>   Endpoint Descriptor:
>> bLength 7
>> bDescriptorType 5
>> bEndpointAddress 0x85  EP 5 IN
>> bmAttributes2
>>   Transfer TypeBulk
>>   Synch Type   None
>>   Usage Type   Data
>> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
>> bInterval   0
>> Interface Descriptor:
>>   bLength 9
>>   bDescriptorType 4
>>   bInterfaceNumber2
>>   bAlternateSetting   0
>>   bNumEndpoints   2
>>   bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
>>   bInterfaceSubClass  6 SCSI
>>   bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)
>>   iInterface  7 USB2.0 Mass Storage
>>   Endpoint Descriptor:
>> bLength 7
>> bDescriptorType 5
>> bEndpointAddress 0x07  EP 7 OUT
>> bmAttributes2
>>   Transfer TypeBulk
>>   Synch Type   None
>>   Usage Type   Data
>> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
>> bInterval   0
>> 

Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Jim]

On 10/24/2009 12:11 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:10 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
   

On Saturday 24 October 2009, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
 
   

Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.
OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would be
nice to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the coyote.den.
 

and this is the strange part: why does it not show the scanner? What
does lsusb return? Does the scanner work under Windows? Not that it
matters much as the scanner seems not supported by Sane right now. But
maybe this is just a matter of adding the usb id

Louis

   

The scanner does show in an lsusb -v, but not without the -v, here is a
snippet:
==
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0856 Seiko Epson Corp.
Device Descriptor:
   bLength18
   bDescriptorType 1
   bcdUSB   2.00
   bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
   bDeviceSubClass 0
   bDeviceProtocol 0
   bMaxPacketSize064
   idVendor   0x04b8 Seiko Epson Corp.
   idProduct  0x0856
   bcdDevice1.00
   iManufacturer   1 EPSON
   iProduct2 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
   iSerial 3 4C454C593037313524
   bNumConfigurations  1
   Configuration Descriptor:
 bLength 9
 bDescriptorType 2
 wTotalLength   78
 bNumInterfaces  3
 bConfigurationValue 1
 iConfiguration  4 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
 bmAttributes 0xc0
   Self Powered
 MaxPower2mA
 Interface Descriptor:
   bLength 9
   bDescriptorType 4
   bInterfaceNumber0
   bAlternateSetting   0
   bNumEndpoints   2
   bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
   bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
   bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
   iInterface  5 EPSON Scanner
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x01  EP 1 OUT
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type   None
   Usage Type   Data
 wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
 bInterval   0
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x82  EP 2 IN
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type   None
   Usage Type   Data
 wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
 bInterval   0
 Interface Descriptor:
   bLength 9
   bDescriptorType 4
   bInterfaceNumber1
   bAlternateSetting   0
   bNumEndpoints   2
   bInterfaceClass 7 Printer
   bInterfaceSubClass  1 Printer
   bInterfaceProtocol  2 Bidirectional
   iInterface  6 USB2.0 Printer
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x04  EP 4 OUT
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type   None
   Usage Type   Data
 wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
 bInterval   0
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x85  EP 5 IN
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type   None
   Usage Type   Data
 wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
 bInterval   0
 Interface Descriptor:
   bLength 9
   bDescriptorType 4
   bInterfaceNumber2
   bAlternateSetting   0
   bNumEndpoints   2
   bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
   bInterfaceSubClass  6 SCSI
   bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)
   iInterface  7 USB2.0 Mass Storage
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x07  EP 7 OUT
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type   None
   Usage Type   Data
 wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
 bInterval   0
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x88  EP 8 IN
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type 

Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Robert Nichols]

Gene Heskett wrote:

On Saturday 24 October 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

My HP C5180 works perfectly both for scanning and printing, plus I have
it network-connected so other people can also use it. It installed
trivially with hplip. I have no problem with the print quality but I'm
not doing photo work. I would probably go for another HP next time,
despite the horrendous cost of the ink cartridges.

poc

That is great, but while a neighbor has one of those, I didn't see one on the 
display shelves yesterday.  Probably that model is out of the supply 
pipelines today.


You can go to http://hplipopensource.com/ (aka hplip.net), click on
"Supported Printers", and see if the model you are considering is
one of the 1,924 currently supported by hplip.

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 24 October 2009, Jim wrote:
>On 10/24/2009 12:11 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
>> On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:10 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Saturday 24 October 2009, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.
> OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would
> be nice to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the
> coyote.den.

 and this is the strange part: why does it not show the scanner? What
 does lsusb return? Does the scanner work under Windows? Not that it
 matters much as the scanner seems not supported by Sane right now. But
 maybe this is just a matter of adding the usb id

 Louis
>>>
>>> The scanner does show in an lsusb -v, but not without the -v, here is a
>>> snippet:
>>> ==
>>> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0856 Seiko Epson Corp.
>>> Device Descriptor:
>>>bLength18
>>>bDescriptorType 1
>>>bcdUSB   2.00
>>>bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
>>>bDeviceSubClass 0
>>>bDeviceProtocol 0
>>>bMaxPacketSize064
>>>idVendor   0x04b8 Seiko Epson Corp.
>>>idProduct  0x0856
>>>bcdDevice1.00
>>>iManufacturer   1 EPSON
>>>iProduct2 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
>>>iSerial 3 4C454C593037313524
[...]
>>>iInterface  5 EPSON Scanner
[...]
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> I suggest to keep an eye on http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/
>> these guys make some linux drivers for Epson devices (they are in some
>> way related to Epson). I see that they already have Imagescan for the
>> NX415 (actually Image Scan! for Linux&  Photo Image Print System Lite)
>> Click on the download for "all in ones", select the NX415 and of you
>> go.
>>
>>
>> Good luck|
>>
>> Louis
>
>These drivers from
>
>http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/
>
>are not of the greatest, so keep check for Gutenprint-cups drivers they do
> very good drivers.
>
>Do a yum install gutenprint-cups and see if your printer is in the Printer
> selection chart
>
Unforch:
Package gutenprint-cups-5.2.4-4.fc10.i386 already installed and latest 
version

Because if I had my druthers, only gutenprint would ever be installed, all 
the others are just so much noise in the cups driver list.

Thanks.

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 24 October 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Saturday 24 October 2009, Jim wrote:
>>On 10/24/2009 12:11 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
[...]

>>These drivers from
>>
>>http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/
>>
>>are not of the greatest, so keep check for Gutenprint-cups drivers they do
>> very good drivers.
>>
>>Do a yum install gutenprint-cups and see if your printer is in the Printer
>> selection chart
>
>Unforch:
>Package gutenprint-cups-5.2.4-4.fc10.i386 already installed and latest
>version
>
>Because if I had my druthers, only gutenprint would ever be installed, all
>the others are just so much noise in the cups driver list.
>
>Thanks.
>
Lemme toss in a PS here that may be of interest, particularly for those users 
whose std page size is A4.  Since installing the epson iscan stuff, it is 
actually usable from xsane!  There are some scaling problems that cause a 
loss of the edges of a letter sheet being copied, but it does mostly work. 
The edges show in a 'view' but are clipped off if sent to the printer using 
either their driver which is stuck in A4 mode, or in the NX-400 cups driver. 
Test sheets to the NX-400 ppd are correctly borderless but are not 
overscanned.

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 24 October 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Saturday 24 October 2009, Jim wrote:
>>On 10/24/2009 12:11 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:10 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Saturday 24 October 2009, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
>> Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.
>> OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would
>> be nice to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the
>> coyote.den.
>
> and this is the strange part: why does it not show the scanner? What
> does lsusb return? Does the scanner work under Windows? Not that it
> matters much as the scanner seems not supported by Sane right now. But
> maybe this is just a matter of adding the usb id
>
> Louis

 The scanner does show in an lsusb -v, but not without the -v, here is a
 snippet:
 ==
 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0856 Seiko Epson Corp.
 Device Descriptor:
bLength18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB   2.00
bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize064
idVendor   0x04b8 Seiko Epson Corp.
idProduct  0x0856
bcdDevice1.00
iManufacturer   1 EPSON
iProduct2 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
iSerial 3 4C454C593037313524
>
>[...]
>
iInterface  5 EPSON Scanner
>
>[...]
>
 

 Thanks.
>>>
>>> I suggest to keep an eye on http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/
>>> these guys make some linux drivers for Epson devices (they are in some
>>> way related to Epson). I see that they already have Imagescan for the
>>> NX415 (actually Image Scan! for Linux&  Photo Image Print System Lite)
>>> Click on the download for "all in ones", select the NX415 and of you
>>> go.
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck|
>>>
>>> Louis
>>
>>These drivers from
>>
>>http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/
>>
>>are not of the greatest, so keep check for Gutenprint-cups drivers they do
>> very good drivers.
>>
>>Do a yum install gutenprint-cups and see if your printer is in the Printer
>> selection chart
>
>Unforch:
>Package gutenprint-cups-5.2.4-4.fc10.i386 already installed and latest
>version
>
>Because if I had my druthers, only gutenprint would ever be installed, all
>the others are just so much noise in the cups driver list.
>
>Thanks.
>
And a PS to my PS, Cups test pages sent to the NX-400 driver are exactly 
scaled and centered. Cups test pages sent via the Epson supplied NX-0515 
driver are also correctly scaled, for an A4 page, with about a 3mm border on 
the left, a good 10 or 11mm on the right, and with an estimated 20mm clipped 
off the bottom.

And its also quite fast, but at 360x360 it should dance a regular jig anyway.  
Epson paid driver authors trying to do GPL code just don't grok it at all.

Sigh...  Beam me up Scotty, there is no intelligent life down here that isn't 
working on linux.

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Bill Davidsen]

Louis Lagendijk wrote:

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:10 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Saturday 24 October 2009, Louis Lagendijk wrote:



Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above.
OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would be
nice to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the coyote.den.

and this is the strange part: why does it not show the scanner? What
does lsusb return? Does the scanner work under Windows? Not that it
matters much as the scanner seems not supported by Sane right now. But
maybe this is just a matter of adding the usb id

Louis

The scanner does show in an lsusb -v, but not without the -v, here is a 
snippet:




[__snippet snipped__]


Thanks.


I suggest to keep an eye on http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/ 
these guys make some linux drivers for Epson devices (they are in some

way related to Epson). I see that they already have Imagescan for the
NX415 (actually Image Scan! for Linux & Photo Image Print System Lite)
Click on the download for "all in ones", select the NX415 and of you
go.

And that's what I had to do, I have a CX7400, I installed the avasys package for 
FC6 (when that was current) and used iscan as the program, since it will do what 
I want and give me a PPM image I can modify as needed, using the netpbm package 
tools and some I wrote using their libraries.


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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Tim Waugh]

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 13:14 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote:
> You can go to http://hplipopensource.com/ (aka hplip.net), click on
> "Supported Printers", and see if the model you are considering is
> one of the 1,924 currently supported by hplip.

Also: make sure (and double-check!) the the model you are considering
does not require the HPLIP proprietary binary "plug-in".  In other
words, the "Driver Plug-In" column should say "No".

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Bill Davidsen]

Tim Waugh wrote:

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 13:14 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote:

You can go to http://hplipopensource.com/ (aka hplip.net), click on
"Supported Printers", and see if the model you are considering is
one of the 1,924 currently supported by hplip.


Also: make sure (and double-check!) the the model you are considering
does not require the HPLIP proprietary binary "plug-in".  In other
words, the "Driver Plug-In" column should say "No".


Why is that? Is there a technical problem, or is this just religion?

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Re: New scanner/printer combo

[Tim Waugh]

On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 09:45 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Why is that? Is there a technical problem, or is this just religion?

Just trying to clear up a common misconception.  Not all of the printers
listed in the model list from HPLIP are usable with HPLIP alone.

If you don't mind whether your printer can be driven using free
software, of course you are free to choose whichever one the
manufacturer can support on their own: good luck with that. :-)

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