OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
Comcast, in their infinite wisdom, has begun to block all inbound port 25 connections at my location. I collect several mailing lists at my home domain which I have maintained for many years. Plus, it has always been nice to have an email box that I could run my own spam filters on. Because MicroSoft has created such a huge mess with spambots and the like, I have lost another privilege that not long ago was assumed, and now falls into a business only category. I do not blame the consumers who are duped into buying computers with a pre-installed OS. It is so VERY annoying that step by step, we lose individual freedoms because of corporate greed and incompetence. Its somewhat like being in jail for something you did not do. Or so it seems to me. Sorry for the rant. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
Phil Meyer wrote: Comcast, in their infinite wisdom, has begun to block all inbound port 25 connections at my location. I collect several mailing lists at my home domain which I have maintained for many years. Plus, it has always been nice to have an email box that I could run my own spam filters on. Because MicroSoft has created such a huge mess with spambots and the like, I have lost another privilege that not long ago was assumed, and now falls into a business only category. I do not blame the consumers who are duped into buying computers with a pre-installed OS. It is so VERY annoying that step by step, we lose individual freedoms because of corporate greed and incompetence. Its somewhat like being in jail for something you did not do. Or so it seems to me. Sorry for the rant. Quick-fix: move the subscriptions to a comcast.net account (you can probably set up several email accounts associated with your existing comcast service) or a free gmail account. Run fetchmail periodically to pull messages via POP and redeliver on your own server. Everything else works the same. If you use gmail, you can configure their server to 'archive' messages as you download via pop so you can delete copies from your server as you read them and still be able to use the web interface to gmail to search for something later. Or, just set up an imap client directly with gmail and not bother with your own server. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
On Friday 19 December 2008 11:17:10 am Phil Meyer wrote: Comcast, in their infinite wisdom, has begun to block all inbound port 25 connections at my location. AFAIK at least in the area i'm in they have always blocked port 25. While it sucks its certainly common practice amongst ISP's all over the world. Dennis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Friday 19 December 2008 11:17:10 am Phil Meyer wrote: Comcast, in their infinite wisdom, has begun to block all inbound port 25 connections at my location. AFAIK at least in the area i'm in they have always blocked port 25. While it sucks its certainly common practice amongst ISP's all over the world. Dennis Comcast and Cox both do this, it makes sense. Makes it a pain when you host a legit server, but there are ways around it. Using the ISP to forward through and to, going DynDNS (like I am doing) and going to a non-standard port (It actually works VERY well) or going business service level (which drops blocks period on the communication line, at least for Cox) Comcast has been doing this off and on since 2000 (Google searches result in a lot of complaints about this action over the years) Just my 2cents and exp on this... ~Seann smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:49:05AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Friday 19 December 2008 11:17:10 am Phil Meyer wrote: Comcast, in their infinite wisdom, has begun to block all inbound port 25 connections at my location. AFAIK at least in the area i'm in they have always blocked port 25. While it sucks its certainly common practice amongst ISP's all over the world. Dennis FWIW, and you may not have this choice, in my area (outside Boston) we have choices of carriers (varies from community to community). We can choose Comcast, Verizon (FIOS), or RCN. I have RCN, and they do not (yet) block port 25. RCN also offers phone and internet packages, i.e., NO TV for those of us who are weird enough to want such a thing. Comcast doesn't even know how to talk to you if you don't want TV... Do you have a static IP address? If not, how do you get mail into your server? I th ink the DYNDNS folks may have a service whereby if you park your domain with them (or use an address in one of their domains) they can forward mail to you on an alternate port, so you may find such an option as that to work around Comcast's stupid rules. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen. - Jude 1:24,25 (niv) - pgpe47WS0DYXS.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
It's this kind of thing that makes me nervous about leaving Speakeasy DSL, even though it's relatively expensive for the speed ($50 for 1.5 Mbps). They've always had progressive rules and seem linux-friendly. That and the fact that the wiring in the house is so lousy that Comcast internet was really flaky reid -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
fred smith wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:49:05AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Friday 19 December 2008 11:17:10 am Phil Meyer wrote: Comcast, in their infinite wisdom, has begun to block all inbound port 25 connections at my location. AFAIK at least in the area i'm in they have always blocked port 25. While it sucks its certainly common practice amongst ISP's all over the world. Dennis FWIW, and you may not have this choice, in my area (outside Boston) we have choices of carriers (varies from community to community). We can choose Comcast, Verizon (FIOS), or RCN. I have RCN, and they do not (yet) block port 25. RCN does selective blocking of port 25. They allow port 25 traffic inbound to your computers, but all outgoing port 25 traffic must be routed RCN's mail gateway. Its not a bad price to pay, but it was inconvenient when they started it. I'm pretty sure you can get around all of this is you upgrade to a business account. You may have to pay for it though. RCN also offers phone and internet packages, i.e., NO TV for those of us who are weird enough to want such a thing. Comcast doesn't even know how to talk to you if you don't want TV... Not entirely true, they offered a 6MB service to my daughter in Attleborough for $60 a month plus installation (her apartment building has a choice between Comcast or the owner's satellite package). Much more expensive than the Verizon DSL plan at half that price. Do you have a static IP address? If not, how do you get mail into your server? I th ink the DYNDNS folks may have a service whereby if you park your domain with them (or use an address in one of their domains) they can forward mail to you on an alternate port, so you may find such an option as that to work around Comcast's stupid rules. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
Yea, I got caught up in this too. Ive used the same email address (to my own domain) forever, so its on every list imaginable. Comcast would accuse me of spamming even tho the From addresses that showed the email coming from a machine some place in russia. Sigh. So they would cut off my port 25 and twice, after a week of finding the right person to talk to, It would get turned back on. Luckily, with my DNS entries, I didnt loose any mail, it just stacked up at my ISP (separate from Comcast). IN ANY CASE, when I subscribed to Comcast (or rather when Comcast took over for whoever had the service before) for a home account you had to subscribe to at least minimal CableTV to get the internet service. I dont know if that's still true. BUT the Minimal CableTV + Internet charge is just a couple three dollars less than the lower cost Business account where they dont bug you about port 25, so I went that way. So far so good... -- Reg.Clemens r...@dwf.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
On 12/19/2008 01:18:55 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: It's this kind of thing that makes me nervous about leaving Speakeasy DSL, even though it's relatively expensive for the speed ($50 for 1.5 Mbps). They've always had progressive rules and seem linux-friendly. That and the fact that the wiring in the house is so lousy that Comcast internet was really flaky Since Speakeasy doesn't have a true DSL to my neighborhood, I get iDSL. Slow as Christmas, expensive, and so forth. But worth the money due to the quality of their support people. Barely worth it by now, but still worth it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25
They are trying to block spam. This is same for ATT DSL several years ago. At least ATT gave us an option to opt out of this via a form on their website. Check with Comcast if they have that option. You can use port 587 as an alternate port for receiving receiving mail so check with your MTA to see if you can change from port 25 to 587 or use both port 25 and port 587 at the same time. I have both port 25 587 on my mail server just because some ISP block port 25 and my colleagues send mail from various locations and they have no control over the network. Here are some links regarding port 587: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1838667,00.asp http://blog.deliverability.com/2008/06/does-sending-e.html Frank Comcast, in their infinite wisdom, has begun to block all inbound port 25 connections at my location. I collect several mailing lists at my home domain which I have maintained for many years. Plus, it has always been nice to have an email box that I could run my own spam filters on. Because MicroSoft has created such a huge mess with spambots and the like, I have lost another privilege that not long ago was assumed, and now falls into a business only category. I do not blame the consumers who are duped into buying computers with a pre-installed OS. It is so VERY annoying that step by step, we lose individual freedoms because of corporate greed and incompetence. Its somewhat like being in jail for something you did not do. Or so it seems to me. Sorry for the rant. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
