Old updates

2009-02-13 Thread David Nečas

Hi, are old updates kept somewhere?  I want to track down the precise
update that broke something but the repos contain only recent versions
of the packages.  If the previous updates are not available, what's the
recommended method in such case?  (Preferably some that does not involve
repackaging the universe on my machine.)  Thanks,

Yeti

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Re: Old updates

2009-02-13 Thread Bryn M. Reeves

David Nečas wrote:

Hi, are old updates kept somewhere?  I want to track down the precise
update that broke something but the repos contain only recent versions
of the packages.  If the previous updates are not available, what's the
recommended method in such case?  (Preferably some that does not involve
repackaging the universe on my machine.)  Thanks,


http://koji.fedoraproject.org/

Regards,
Bryn.

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-12 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:52 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Aaron Konstam wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
  Aaron Konstam wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
  The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all 
  is just great, and
  that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad 
  key, updates is
  still active.
 
  Should that repo be deactivated?
 
  Thanks team for a job well done.
  Seems like the thing to do.
 
  On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
  the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
 
  On mine the old one is still there.
  
 Are you sure? Check the time stamp on the files.
Yeah,, I am sure , but I think it was because of the screwey way I
performed the transisiton. I also have a:  fedora-updates.repo.rpmnew
which I think corresponds to the new:  fedora-updates.repo
you are seeing.

 
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  234 2008-05-18 21:42 dvd.repo
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1907 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-development.repo
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1168 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora.repo
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1186 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates-newkey.repo
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1078 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates.repo
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1259 2008-09-08 10:57
 fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1151 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates-testing.repo
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1904 2007-11-07 10:11 livna-devel.repo
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1808 2007-11-07 10:11 livna.repo
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2003 2007-11-07 10:11 livna-testing.repo
 
 Mikkel
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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-12 Thread Tony Molloy
On Friday 12 September 2008 15:06:31 Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:52 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
  Aaron Konstam wrote:
   On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
   Aaron Konstam wrote:
   On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
   The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance,
   all is just great, and that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I
   noticed that the old, bad key, updates is still active.
  
   Should that repo be deactivated?
  
   Thanks team for a job well done.
  
   Seems like the thing to do.
  
   On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
   the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
  
   On mine the old one is still there.
 
  Are you sure? Check the time stamp on the files.

 Yeah,, I am sure , but I think it was because of the screwey way I
 performed the transisiton. I also have a:  fedora-updates.repo.rpmnew
 which I think corresponds to the new:  fedora-updates.repo
 you are seeing.


If you previously edited your fedora.repo or fedora-updates.repo or 
fedora-testing.repo then the update will create a x.rpmnew version of these 
files  rather than replacing them wih the new versions.

Tony



  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  234 2008-05-18 21:42 dvd.repo
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1907 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-development.repo
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1168 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora.repo
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1186 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates-newkey.repo
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1078 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates.repo
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1259 2008-09-08 10:57
  fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1151 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates-testing.repo
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1904 2007-11-07 10:11 livna-devel.repo
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1808 2007-11-07 10:11 livna.repo
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2003 2007-11-07 10:11 livna-testing.repo
 
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Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Brian Millett
The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is just 
great, and
that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad key, 
updates is
still active.

Should that repo be deactivated?

Thanks team for a job well done.
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and again and...again. Until it stays. That as our poet Tennison once
said is the goal: to strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.'



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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
 The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
 just great, and
 that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad key, 
 updates is
 still active.
 
 Should that repo be deactivated?
 
 Thanks team for a job well done.
Seems like the thing to do.
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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
 The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
 just great, and
 that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad key, 
 updates is
 still active.

 Should that repo be deactivated?

 Thanks team for a job well done.
 Seems like the thing to do.
 
On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
the files in /etc/yum.repos.d

Mikkel
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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Aaron Konstam wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
  The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
  just great, and
  that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad 
  key, updates is
  still active.
 
  Should that repo be deactivated?
 
  Thanks team for a job well done.
  Seems like the thing to do.
  
 On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
 the files in /etc/yum.repos.d

I updated using yum update and some repo files were left untouched
while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.

poc

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
 the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
 
 I updated using yum update and some repo files were left untouched
 while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
 place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.
 
 poc
 
Did you edit your (old) repo files? You are only supposed to get
.rpmnew for config files you have changed... (Or .rpmsave if hte old
config file does not work with the new version...)

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


I updated using yum update and some repo files were left untouched
while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.


If you have edited the files by hand, rpm updates won't overwrite the 
configuration files usually and instead create .rpmnew files which gives 
the user a chance to manually review and adopt the changes.


Rahul

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 20:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  I updated using yum update and some repo files were left untouched
  while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
  place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.
 
 If you have edited the files by hand, rpm updates won't overwrite the 
 configuration files usually and instead create .rpmnew files which gives 
 the user a chance to manually review and adopt the changes.

I realize that, I wasn't complaining :-)

poc

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Brian Millett
Mikkel L. Ellertson escribío:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
 the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
 I updated using yum update and some repo files were left untouched
 while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
 place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.

 poc

 Did you edit your (old) repo files? You are only supposed to get
 .rpmnew for config files you have changed... (Or .rpmsave if hte old
 config file does not work with the new version...)
 
 Mikkel
 

Not those.  I had the fedora.repo.  What I got instead was two new ones

fedora-updates-newkey.repo
fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo

I just deleted the older fedora-updates.repo  fedora-updates-testing.repo

Thanks for all help.

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Aaron Konstam wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
  The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
  just great, and
  that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad 
  key, updates is
  still active.
 
  Should that repo be deactivated?
 
  Thanks team for a job well done.
  Seems like the thing to do.
  
 On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
 the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
 
On mine the old one is still there.
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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

2008-09-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
 The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
 just great, and
 that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad 
 key, updates is
 still active.

 Should that repo be deactivated?

 Thanks team for a job well done.
 Seems like the thing to do.

 On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
 the files in /etc/yum.repos.d

 On mine the old one is still there.
 
Are you sure? Check the time stamp on the files.

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  234 2008-05-18 21:42 dvd.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1907 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-development.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1168 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1186 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates-newkey.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1078 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1259 2008-09-08 10:57
fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1151 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates-testing.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1904 2007-11-07 10:11 livna-devel.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1808 2007-11-07 10:11 livna.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2003 2007-11-07 10:11 livna-testing.repo

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