Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-03 Thread Frank Murphy 
On 03/08/09 09:30, Tim Waugh wrote:
> 
> I think I mention this in response to more or less every problem
> relating to printing on this mailing list, but here it goes again:
> 
> System->Administration->Printing, then Help->Troubleshoot.
> 
> or, if you see a dialog telling you your print job has stopped, click
> 'Diagnose'.
> 
> Tim.
> */
> 
> 

Maybe it needs to be wiki-fied

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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-03 Thread Tim Waugh 
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 23:37 +0400, Hiisi wrote:
> I really would like to see it. I have some kind of problem sharing USB 
> printer connected to F11 machine in my home network. Please, give us the 
> instruction!

I think I mention this in response to more or less every problem
relating to printing on this mailing list, but here it goes again:

System->Administration->Printing, then Help->Troubleshoot.

or, if you see a dialog telling you your print job has stopped, click
'Diagnose'.

Tim.
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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-02 Thread Hiisi 

Glad you got it sorted.  Just before we leave this, and to make it
complete
for the archives, how about adding the command that gave you your
troubleshoot.txt?

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I really would like to see it. I have some kind of problem sharing USB 
printer connected to F11 machine in my home network. Please, give us the 
instruction!

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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-02 Thread Hiisi 

Glad you got it sorted.  Just before we leave this, and to make it
complete
for the archives, how about adding the command that gave you your
troubleshoot.txt?

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I really would like to see it. I have some kind of problem sharing USB 
printer connected to F11 machine in my home network. Please, give us the 
instruction!

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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-02 Thread Anne Wilson 
On Sunday 02 August 2009 18:49:09 Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > One thing you could try - set up keychain authentication with keys.  I've
> > only
> > used it in an ssh situation, but I believe it can work in lots of others.
> > You give the keychain password at the start of a session and that is
> > checked
> > against known-hosts on the remote machine.  That's certainly worth a try.
>
> Thanks to Tim Waugh, who told me how to create the diagnostic file
> troubleshoot.txt, I have worked out the cause of my problem.
>
> Firstly, I thought that on my laptop (192.168.2.7)
> I had to go to  and add my printer,
> which is attached to the computer 192.168.2.1,
> giving the URI .
>
> I now see that it is not necessary to do anything on the laptop,
> apart from start cups.
> The printer can then be seen in the CUPS web interface.
> (I thought I had set the printer to be shared,
> but perhaps I failed to do this originally.)
>
> The actual problem arose because my server, running httpd, is 192.168.2.2 .
> It seems that either CUPS or hp-setup substituted
> 192.168.2.2 for 192.168.2.1 in its internal working,
> as shown in the diagnostic file.

Glad you got it sorted.  Just before we leave this, and to make it complete 
for the archives, how about adding the command that gave you your 
troubleshoot.txt?

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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-02 Thread Timothy Murphy 
Anne Wilson wrote:

> One thing you could try - set up keychain authentication with keys.  I've
> only
> used it in an ssh situation, but I believe it can work in lots of others. 
> You give the keychain password at the start of a session and that is
> checked
> against known-hosts on the remote machine.  That's certainly worth a try.

Thanks to Tim Waugh, who told me how to create the diagnostic file
troubleshoot.txt, I have worked out the cause of my problem.

Firstly, I thought that on my laptop (192.168.2.7)
I had to go to  and add my printer,
which is attached to the computer 192.168.2.1,
giving the URI .

I now see that it is not necessary to do anything on the laptop,
apart from start cups.
The printer can then be seen in the CUPS web interface.
(I thought I had set the printer to be shared, 
but perhaps I failed to do this originally.)

The actual problem arose because my server, running httpd, is 192.168.2.2 .
It seems that either CUPS or hp-setup substituted
192.168.2.2 for 192.168.2.1 in its internal working,
as shown in the diagnostic file.


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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-02 Thread Anne Wilson 
On Saturday 01 August 2009 23:05:07 Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >> >> I am trying to print the CUPS Print Test Page from my laptop
> >> >> on a printer attached to another machine on my home LAN.
> >> >> But whenever I do this CUPS adds the line
> >> >> "AuthInfoRequired username,password" to /etc/cups/printers.conf
> >> >> on my laptop.
> >> >> The result is that the job is rejected;
> >
> > I've never done this, so I'm just throwing out ideas for you to consider.
> > You
> > are connecting to alfred in order to print.  If you set up printers in
> > samba you have to set whether the driver is going to be local or remote -
> > how do you do that in the cups setup?
>
> Thanks again for your response.
>
> When setting up the printer on the laptop,
> I say that it is a network printer, choose http as the protocol,
> and give the URI of the printer, in this case
>   http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5L .
>
> (The printer is never found by clicking on Network Find Printer.)
>
That's a bit worrying.  I guess it means that it's not broadcasting as shared 
- which would fit with the error message.

> > The other thing that comes to mind is that because it is attached to
> > alfred,
> > you definitely have to authenticate there.  You'd need either matching
> > username and password or user-mapping, I would have thought.
>
> There is no suggestion that one has to setup anything,
> and I don't see where one could set username/password
> in any of the CUPS files.
>
> > Hope it starts off some useful train o thought.
>
> Yes, thanks.
> I'll try setting up some form of authentication,
> or else try turning it off.
> But when I googled for the error message,
> none of those who encountered the problem
> seemed to have found any simple solution.

One thing you could try - set up keychain authentication with keys.  I've only 
used it in an ssh situation, but I believe it can work in lots of others.  You 
give the keychain password at the start of a session and that is checked 
against known-hosts on the remote machine.  That's certainly worth a try.

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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-01 Thread Timothy Murphy 
Richard England wrote:

>> I am trying to print the CUPS Print Test Page from my laptop
>> on a printer attached to another machine on my home LAN.
>> But whenever I do this CUPS adds the line
>> "AuthInfoRequired username,password" to /etc/cups/printers.conf
>> on my laptop.
>> The result is that the job is rejected;

>> When setting up the printer on the laptop,
>> I say that it is a network printer, choose http as the protocol,
>> and give the URI of the printer, in this case
>> http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5L .

> I may be coming in late on this but my laptop configuration specifies
> 
> ipp://192.168.2.2:631/printers/psc-2400-series
> 
> 192.168.2.2 is configured to host this USB printer locally and it's
> "URL" is
> 
> hp:/usb/psc_2400_series?serial=MY39FD200F8H
> 
> Perhaps you can try using the printer protocol (ipp) instead of http ?

Thanks for your response.
I did try ipp instead of http at one point.
as well as AppSocket/HP JetDirect .
But I think that was when I was using hp-setup.
I'll try it again directly.

I've put in a bug report for this problem,
and been asked to run a diagnostic test, which I have done.


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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-01 Thread Richard England 

Timothy Murphy wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

  

I am trying to print the CUPS Print Test Page from my laptop
on a printer attached to another machine on my home LAN.
But whenever I do this CUPS adds the line
"AuthInfoRequired username,password" to /etc/cups/printers.conf
on my laptop.
The result is that the job is rejected;
  


  
I've never done this, so I'm just throwing out ideas for you to consider. 
You

are connecting to alfred in order to print.  If you set up printers in
samba you have to set whether the driver is going to be local or remote -
how do you do that in the cups setup?



Thanks again for your response.

When setting up the printer on the laptop,
I say that it is a network printer, choose http as the protocol,
and give the URI of the printer, in this case
http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5L .

(The printer is never found by clicking on Network Find Printer.)

  

The other thing that comes to mind is that because it is attached to
alfred,
you definitely have to authenticate there.  You'd need either matching
username and password or user-mapping, I would have thought.



There is no suggestion that one has to setup anything,
and I don't see where one could set username/password
in any of the CUPS files.

  

Hope it starts off some useful train o thought.



Yes, thanks.
I'll try setting up some form of authentication,
or else try turning it off.
But when I googled for the error message,
none of those who encountered the problem
seemed to have found any simple solution.


  

I may be coming in late on this but my laptop configuration specifies

ipp://192.168.2.2:631/printers/psc-2400-series

192.168.2.2 is configured to host this USB printer locally and it's 
"URL" is


hp:/usb/psc_2400_series?serial=MY39FD200F8H

Perhaps you can try using the printer protocol (ipp) instead of http ?

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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-01 Thread Timothy Murphy 
Anne Wilson wrote:

>> >> I am trying to print the CUPS Print Test Page from my laptop
>> >> on a printer attached to another machine on my home LAN.
>> >> But whenever I do this CUPS adds the line
>> >> "AuthInfoRequired username,password" to /etc/cups/printers.conf
>> >> on my laptop.
>> >> The result is that the job is rejected;

> I've never done this, so I'm just throwing out ideas for you to consider. 
> You
> are connecting to alfred in order to print.  If you set up printers in
> samba you have to set whether the driver is going to be local or remote -
> how do you do that in the cups setup?

Thanks again for your response.

When setting up the printer on the laptop,
I say that it is a network printer, choose http as the protocol,
and give the URI of the printer, in this case
http://192.168.2.1:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5L .

(The printer is never found by clicking on Network Find Printer.)

> The other thing that comes to mind is that because it is attached to
> alfred,
> you definitely have to authenticate there.  You'd need either matching
> username and password or user-mapping, I would have thought.

There is no suggestion that one has to setup anything,
and I don't see where one could set username/password
in any of the CUPS files.

> Hope it starts off some useful train o thought.

Yes, thanks.
I'll try setting up some form of authentication,
or else try turning it off.
But when I googled for the error message,
none of those who encountered the problem
seemed to have found any simple solution.


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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-01 Thread Anne Wilson 
On Saturday 01 August 2009 17:19:32 Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >> I am trying to print the CUPS Print Test Page from my laptop
> >> on a printer attached to another machine on my home LAN.
> >> But whenever I do this CUPS adds the line
> >> "AuthInfoRequired username,password" to /etc/cups/printers.conf
> >> on my laptop.
> >> The result is that the job is rejected;
> >> I read in /var/log/cups/error_log on the laptop:
> >> 
> >> D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24] Set job-printer-state-message to
> >> "Print file was not accepted (The printer or class is not shared!)!",
> >
> > Isn't this the reason?  Is the printer marked as shared on the remote
> > computer?
>
> It is.
> Here is the printers.conf from the remote machine:
> --
> # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.4rc1
> # Written by cupsd on 2009-08-01 02:56
> 
> Info HP LaserJet 5L
> Location In study, attached to alfred
> MakeModel HP LaserJet 5L Foomatic/ljet4 (recommended)
> DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0
> State Idle
> StateTime 1249090007
> Type 8400900
> Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 -
> Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 foomatic-rip
> Filter application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 foomatic-rip
> Filter application/vnd.apple-pdf 25 foomatic-rip
> Accepting Yes
> Shared Yes
> JobSheets none none
> QuotaPeriod 0
> PageLimit 0
> KLimit 0
> OpPolicy default
> ErrorPolicy stop-printer
> 
> --
> And here is printers.conf for the laptop:
> --
> # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.4rc1
> # Written by cupsd on 2009-08-01 14:34
> 
> AuthInfoRequired username,password
> Info Laserjet 5L
> Location In study, attached to alfred
> MakeModel HP LaserJet 5L Foomatic/ljet4 (recommended)
> DeviceURI http://192.168.2.2:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5L
> State Idle
> StateTime 1249133646
> Type 8400900
> Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 -
> Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 foomatic-rip
> Filter application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 foomatic-rip
> Filter application/vnd.apple-pdf 25 foomatic-rip
> Accepting Yes
> Shared Yes
> JobSheets none none
> QuotaPeriod 0
> PageLimit 0
> KLimit 0
> OpPolicy default
> ErrorPolicy stop-printer
> 
> --
> I cannot get rid of the AuthInfoRequired line;
> if I delete it, it just re-appears.
>
> Any enlightenment more than gratefully received.
>
>
> I attach cupds.conf for two machines below.
> They were created by CUPS web interface,
> and seem perfectly standard to me.
>
> I thought the problem might be due to using hp-setup,
> but I have yum-removed this,
> and also re-installed cups on both machines,
> after deleting all cups files I could find.
> But all this had no effect; the outcome is the same.

I've never done this, so I'm just throwing out ideas for you to consider.  You 
are connecting to alfred in order to print.  If you set up printers in samba 
you have to set whether the driver is going to be local or remote - how do you 
do that in the cups setup?

The other thing that comes to mind is that because it is attached to alfred, 
you definitely have to authenticate there.  You'd need either matching 
username and password or user-mapping, I would have thought.

Hope it starts off some useful train o thought.

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Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-01 Thread Timothy Murphy 
Anne Wilson wrote:

>> I am trying to print the CUPS Print Test Page from my laptop
>> on a printer attached to another machine on my home LAN.
>> But whenever I do this CUPS adds the line
>> "AuthInfoRequired username,password" to /etc/cups/printers.conf
>> on my laptop.
>> The result is that the job is rejected;
>> I read in /var/log/cups/error_log on the laptop:
>> 
>> D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24] Set job-printer-state-message to
>> "Print file was not accepted (The printer or class is not shared!)!",
> 
> Isn't this the reason?  Is the printer marked as shared on the remote
> computer?

It is.
Here is the printers.conf from the remote machine:
--
# Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.4rc1
# Written by cupsd on 2009-08-01 02:56

Info HP LaserJet 5L
Location In study, attached to alfred
MakeModel HP LaserJet 5L Foomatic/ljet4 (recommended)
DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0
State Idle
StateTime 1249090007
Type 8400900
Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 -
Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 foomatic-rip
Filter application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 foomatic-rip
Filter application/vnd.apple-pdf 25 foomatic-rip
Accepting Yes
Shared Yes
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
OpPolicy default
ErrorPolicy stop-printer

--
And here is printers.conf for the laptop:
--
# Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.4rc1
# Written by cupsd on 2009-08-01 14:34

AuthInfoRequired username,password
Info Laserjet 5L
Location In study, attached to alfred
MakeModel HP LaserJet 5L Foomatic/ljet4 (recommended)
DeviceURI http://192.168.2.2:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_5L
State Idle
StateTime 1249133646
Type 8400900
Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 -
Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 foomatic-rip
Filter application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 foomatic-rip
Filter application/vnd.apple-pdf 25 foomatic-rip
Accepting Yes
Shared Yes
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
OpPolicy default
ErrorPolicy stop-printer

--
I cannot get rid of the AuthInfoRequired line;
if I delete it, it just re-appears.

Any enlightenment more than gratefully received.


I attach cupds.conf for two machines below.
They were created by CUPS web interface,
and seem perfectly standard to me.

I thought the problem might be due to using hp-setup,
but I have yum-removed this,
and also re-installed cups on both machines,
after deleting all cups files I could find.
But all this had no effect; the outcome is the same.


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MaxLogSize 0
LogLevel warn
SystemGroup sys root
# Only listen for connections from the local machine.
Listen localhost:631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
# Show shared printers on the local network.
Browsing On
BrowseOrder allow,deny
BrowseAllow all
BrowseRemoteProtocols CUPS
BrowseLocalProtocols
DefaultAuthType Basic

  # Restrict access to the server...
  Order allow,deny


  # Restrict access to the admin pages...
  Order allow,deny


  AuthType Default
  Require user @SYSTEM
  # Restrict access to the configuration files...
  Order allow,deny


  
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
Order deny,allow
  


  
  AuthType Default
  Order deny,allow

  
AuthType Default
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
  AuthType Default
  Require user @SYSTEM
  Order deny,allow

  
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
  AuthType Default
  Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
  Order deny,allow

  
Order deny,allow
  


MaxLogSize 0
# Show troubleshooting information in error_log.
LogLevel debug
SystemGroup sys root
# Allow remote access
Port 631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
# Enable printer sharing and shared printers.
Browsing On
BrowseOrder allow,deny
BrowseAllow all
BrowseRemoteProtocols CUPS
BrowseAddress @LOCAL
BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS
DefaultAuthType Basic

  # Allow shared printing and remote administration...
  Order allow,deny
  Allow @LOCAL


  # Allow remote administration...
  Order allow,deny
  Allow @LOCAL


  AuthType Default
  Require user @SYSTEM
  # Allow remote access to the configuration files...
  Order allow,deny
  Allow @LOCAL


  
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  
  
Order deny,allow
  


  
  AuthType Default
  Order deny,allow

  
AuthType Defau

Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-01 Thread Anne Wilson 
On Saturday 01 August 2009 15:10:02 Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I am trying to print the CUPS Print Test Page from my laptop
> on a printer attached to another machine on my home LAN.
> But whenever I do this CUPS adds the line
> "AuthInfoRequired username,password" to /etc/cups/printers.conf
> on my laptop.
> The result is that the job is rejected;
> I read in /var/log/cups/error_log on the laptop:
> 
> D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24] Set job-printer-state-message to
> "Print file was not accepted (The printer or class is not shared!)!",

Isn't this the reason?  Is the printer marked as shared on the remote 
computer?

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Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf

2009-08-01 Thread Timothy Murphy 
I am trying to print the CUPS Print Test Page from my laptop
on a printer attached to another machine on my home LAN.
But whenever I do this CUPS adds the line
"AuthInfoRequired username,password" to /etc/cups/printers.conf
on my laptop.
The result is that the job is rejected;
I read in /var/log/cups/error_log on the laptop:

D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24] Set job-printer-state-message to 
"Print file was not accepted (The printer or class is not shared!)!", 
current level=ERROR
D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24] WWW-Authenticate=""
D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24] 
ATTR: auth-info-required=username,password
D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24]
D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24] STATE: none
D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24] Backend returned status 2 
(authentication required)
D [01/Aug/2009:03:11:08 +0100] [Job 24] Job held for authentication.


If I try to comment out the line in printers.conf
my comment character "# " is removed.

I googled for "CUPS auth-info-required=username,password"
and it seems that this has been a CUPS problem for some time,
although there do not seem any very recent reports.

I am running cups-1.4-0.rc1.10.fc11.i586 on both machines,
under Fedora-11.

Any elucidation of this strange event gratefully received.




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