Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:48:32 -0600 Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure it's something to do with higher transfer speed that you get with a local file copy versus something that's coming in over the internet. The Acer is apparently sending something unexpected to the router that causes the wireless functions of the router to lock up. The wired connections to the router continue to work normally. The router is a Belkin Wireless G. I wonder if there is some kind of a stop for a moment because I'm overloaded command that the Acer is sending to the router, and forgetting to tell the router to start again afterward. I just filed this here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469994 I was just setting up a Trendnet wireless G router for another purpose and decided to take advantage of the opportunity to put the Acer Aspire One on it and copy some large files. Doing exactly the same thing in exactly the same way (with the same files) through the Trendnet router works perfectly. There is no lockup. Therefore, the problem lies somewhere in the interaction of the Acer Aspire One and the Belkin Wireless G router. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Therefore, the problem lies somewhere in the interaction of the Acer Aspire One and the Belkin Wireless G router. I vaguely remember reading something that suggested that the problem lied with the Belkin router itself. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:37:37 -0800 Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vaguely remember reading something that suggested that the problem lied with the Belkin router itself. I have two laptops. One Acer Aspire One and one no-name Intel. If I put both of them online wirelessly at the same time and then attempt to copy a large file from my desktop computer to the Intel using scp, everything works perfectly. If I then attempt to copy the same large file from my desktop to the Acer, the transfer stops in the middle, and the router and the Intel's wireless capabilities both lock up. I can log into the router and restart it from my desktop's wired connection. When the router finishes resetting the Acer jumps back online automatically with no further action required on my part. The Intel laptop won't go back online until I reboot it. Somehow the Acer is locking up everything (the router and the other computer) except itself. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:48:32 -0600 Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure it's something to do with higher transfer speed that you get with a local file copy versus something that's coming in over the internet. The Acer is apparently sending something unexpected to the router that causes the wireless functions of the router to lock up. The wired connections to the router continue to work normally. The router is a Belkin Wireless G. I wonder if there is some kind of a stop for a moment because I'm overloaded command that the Acer is sending to the router, and forgetting to tell the router to start again afterward. I just filed this here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469994 I was just setting up a Trendnet wireless G router for another purpose and decided to take advantage of the opportunity to put the Acer Aspire One on it and copy some large files. Doing exactly the same thing in exactly the same way (with the same files) through the Trendnet router works perfectly. There is no lockup. Therefore, the problem lies somewhere in the interaction of the Acer Aspire One and the Belkin Wireless G router. Check the firmware on the router - it may need update. -- Article. VI. Clause 3 of the constitution of the United States states: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:59:46 -0800 Agile Aspect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check the firmware on the router - it may need update. Already done. According to the built-in doodad on the router's setup page, it's the latest available version. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
Frank Cox wrote: I'm thinking that something in the way that Network Manager handles the wireless connection is getting confused somewhere along the line, but I don't see why resetting the router would clear the problem. What brand and model of router? I've seen an identical thing with Mac OS X 10.4/10.5 and DLink routers. If I do a continuous ping to the router, eventually packets just start dropping until only 10-15% get through. Reset the router, no problems. The same router with a Windows XP Dell Inspiron and a Dell wireless card, no problems. Eric -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 07:46 -0500, Eric Feldhusen wrote: If I do a continuous ping to the router, eventually packets just start dropping until only 10-15% get through. Reset the router, no problems. Adaptive firewall on it? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
Tim wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 07:46 -0500, Eric Feldhusen wrote: If I do a continuous ping to the router, eventually packets just start dropping until only 10-15% get through. Reset the router, no problems. Adaptive firewall on it? I'm not sure, I'd have to check. Eric -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:46:56 -0500 Eric Feldhusen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What brand and model of router? It's a Belkin Wireless G The interesting thing here is that I can copy the exact same file (and larger ones too) from my desktop computer to my other laptop (a no-name Intel) on the same wireless router with no problem. I also discovered that if the Acer and my other laptop are both online wirelessly at the same time and I send a large file to the Acer from my desktop computer so it locks up the router's wireless capability, the other laptop's wireless connection also locks up and won't re-connect even after I reset the router. I also have to reboot the other laptop to get it back online, otherwise it just continuously asks me for my WPA2 password. So whatever it is that causes the lock-up, it doesn't just lock up the wireless part of the router. It also locks up the wireless part of the other Intel laptop. However I don't have to reboot the Acer to get it back online after the lockup. While the Acer is the cause of the lockup for the other units, The Acer's wireless connection doesn't seem to lock up like the router and the Intel laptop do. After resetting the route the Acer will say that the connection was lost, then reconnect to the wireless router automatically. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
just saw this thread.. so bear with me if the questions are already answered... are you using dhcp on the router/laptops? are you using static ip addresses? what does the /var/log/messages say, if anything? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank Cox Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:31 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Cc: Eric Feldhusen Subject: Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:46:56 -0500 Eric Feldhusen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What brand and model of router? It's a Belkin Wireless G The interesting thing here is that I can copy the exact same file (and larger ones too) from my desktop computer to my other laptop (a no-name Intel) on the same wireless router with no problem. I also discovered that if the Acer and my other laptop are both online wirelessly at the same time and I send a large file to the Acer from my desktop computer so it locks up the router's wireless capability, the other laptop's wireless connection also locks up and won't re-connect even after I reset the router. I also have to reboot the other laptop to get it back online, otherwise it just continuously asks me for my WPA2 password. So whatever it is that causes the lock-up, it doesn't just lock up the wireless part of the router. It also locks up the wireless part of the other Intel laptop. However I don't have to reboot the Acer to get it back online after the lockup. While the Acer is the cause of the lockup for the other units, The Acer's wireless connection doesn't seem to lock up like the router and the Intel laptop do. After resetting the route the Acer will say that the connection was lost, then reconnect to the wireless router automatically. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:34:49 -0800
bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
are you using dhcp on the router/laptops?
The laptops use dhcp. My main desktop computer (this one) is on a wired
connection to the router and it (the computer) has a static IP address. My
main desktop computer is also my DHCP server.
are you using static ip addresses?
Everything except for the laptops has a static IP address. The laptops also
have fixed addresses but they are assigned their address by the DHCP server.
(They get their address from the DHCP server, but the DHCP server always gives
them the same address.)
Here is my dhcpd.conf:
QUOTE
# dhcpd.conf
ddns-update-style ad-hoc;
option subnet-mask255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
option routers192.168.0.1;
option domain-name-servers204.83.142.2, 204.83.142.4;
option domain-namemelvilletheatre.net;
option option-128 code 128 = string;
option option-129 code 129 = text;
get-lease-hostnames true;
next-server 192.168.0.3;
option root-path 192.168.0.3:/opt/ltsp/i386;
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.199;
if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = PXEClient {
filename /lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0;
}
else{
filename /lts/vmlinuz-2.6.16.1-ltsp-1;
}
}
#
# If you need to pass parameters on the kernel command line, you can
# do it with option-129. In order for Etherboot to look at option-129,
# you MUST have option-128 set to a specific value. The value is a
# special Etherboot signature of 'e4:45:74:68:00:00'.
#
# Add these two lines to the host entry that needs kernel parameters
#
#option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; # NOT a mac address
#option option-129 NIC=ne IO=0x300;
#
host nathalie_wireless {
hardware ethernet 00:13:e8:69:45:51;
fixed-address 192.168.0.8;
}
host acer_aspire_one {
hardware ethernet 00:23:4d:69:a5:e3;
fixed-address 192.168.0.6;
}
host acer_aspire_wired {
hardware ethernet 00:1E:68:F4:39:FC;
fixed-address 192.168.0.7;
}
host dawn_laptop {
hardware ethernet 00:1d:09:b4:5b:32;
fixed-address 192.168.0.35;
}
END OF QUOTE
what does the /var/log/messages say, if anything?
Here is the relevant section of /var/log/messages when I try to re-connect
from the Acer after copying a large file and losing the connection, before I
reset the router. I think I'm in trouble from the very first line. Couldn't
get connection secrets. All I get is the window asking me for my WPA2
password. If I leave everything else alone after the lockup and just reset the
router, the Acer reconnects right away all by itself. But if the Intel laptop
was also online wirelessly when the lockup occurred, then the Intel laptop won't
go back online after I reset the router until the Intel laptop has been
rebooted.
The lockup doesn't affect the wired connections at all. I can still log into
the router using a wired connection and go to the configuration page to reset
it, and I can still surf the net and whatnot from a wired connection even
without resetting the router. The wireless connections to the laptops still
think they are present after the lockups occur. I don't get the disconnected
message and I still have four bars in the panel applet until I reset the
router. When I reset the router, the panel applet in the Acer says
disconnected, then the spinning balls start and then it reconnects, but the
Intel says disconnected, then the spinning balls start and it comes up and
asks for my WPA2 password and won't actually connect again until I reset the
Intel laptop.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: WARN get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get
connection secrets: applet-device-wifi.c.1522 (get_secrets_dialog_response_cb):
canceled.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 6 -
9
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) failed for
access point (melvilletheatre.net)
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Marking connection 'Auto
melvilletheatre.net' invalid.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) failed.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 9 -
3
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): deactivating device
(reason: 0).
Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) starting
connection 'Auto melvilletheatre.net'
Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 3 -
4
Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
(Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
(Device Prepare) started...
Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
(Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 4 17:50:13 acer
RE: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
can i ask you to try setting up your system, without encryption/passwords...
as a test... i'm wondering if the security aspects are causing some sort of
conflict.
-Original Message-
From: Frank Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:27 AM
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
Cc: bruce
Subject: Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:34:49 -0800
bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
are you using dhcp on the router/laptops?
The laptops use dhcp. My main desktop computer (this one) is on a wired
connection to the router and it (the computer) has a static IP address. My
main desktop computer is also my DHCP server.
are you using static ip addresses?
Everything except for the laptops has a static IP address. The laptops also
have fixed addresses but they are assigned their address by the DHCP server.
(They get their address from the DHCP server, but the DHCP server always
gives
them the same address.)
Here is my dhcpd.conf:
QUOTE
# dhcpd.conf
ddns-update-style ad-hoc;
option subnet-mask255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
option routers192.168.0.1;
option domain-name-servers204.83.142.2, 204.83.142.4;
option domain-namemelvilletheatre.net;
option option-128 code 128 = string;
option option-129 code 129 = text;
get-lease-hostnames true;
next-server 192.168.0.3;
option root-path 192.168.0.3:/opt/ltsp/i386;
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.199;
if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = PXEClient {
filename /lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0;
}
else{
filename /lts/vmlinuz-2.6.16.1-ltsp-1;
}
}
#
# If you need to pass parameters on the kernel command line, you can
# do it with option-129. In order for Etherboot to look at option-129,
# you MUST have option-128 set to a specific value. The value is a
# special Etherboot signature of 'e4:45:74:68:00:00'.
#
# Add these two lines to the host entry that needs kernel parameters
#
#option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; # NOT a mac address
#option option-129 NIC=ne IO=0x300;
#
host nathalie_wireless {
hardware ethernet 00:13:e8:69:45:51;
fixed-address 192.168.0.8;
}
host acer_aspire_one {
hardware ethernet 00:23:4d:69:a5:e3;
fixed-address 192.168.0.6;
}
host acer_aspire_wired {
hardware ethernet 00:1E:68:F4:39:FC;
fixed-address 192.168.0.7;
}
host dawn_laptop {
hardware ethernet 00:1d:09:b4:5b:32;
fixed-address 192.168.0.35;
}
END OF QUOTE
what does the /var/log/messages say, if anything?
Here is the relevant section of /var/log/messages when I try to re-connect
from the Acer after copying a large file and losing the connection, before I
reset the router. I think I'm in trouble from the very first line.
Couldn't
get connection secrets. All I get is the window asking me for my WPA2
password. If I leave everything else alone after the lockup and just reset
the
router, the Acer reconnects right away all by itself. But if the Intel
laptop
was also online wirelessly when the lockup occurred, then the Intel laptop
won't
go back online after I reset the router until the Intel laptop has been
rebooted.
The lockup doesn't affect the wired connections at all. I can still log
into
the router using a wired connection and go to the configuration page to
reset
it, and I can still surf the net and whatnot from a wired connection even
without resetting the router. The wireless connections to the laptops still
think they are present after the lockups occur. I don't get the
disconnected
message and I still have four bars in the panel applet until I reset the
router. When I reset the router, the panel applet in the Acer says
disconnected, then the spinning balls start and then it reconnects, but
the
Intel says disconnected, then the spinning balls start and it comes up and
asks for my WPA2 password and won't actually connect again until I reset the
Intel laptop.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: WARN get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get
connection secrets: applet-device-wifi.c.1522
(get_secrets_dialog_response_cb):
canceled.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change:
6 -
9
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) failed for
access point (melvilletheatre.net)
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Marking connection 'Auto
melvilletheatre.net' invalid.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) failed.
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change:
9 -
3
Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): deactivating device
(reason: 0).
Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) starting
connection 'Auto melvilletheatre.net'
Nov 4 17:50:13
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:31:53 -0800 bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i ask you to try setting up your system, without encryption/passwords... as a test... i'm wondering if the security aspects are causing some sort of conflict. I just turned set the wireless security on my router to disabled and then booted the Acer Aspire One and got it online wirelessly. I then used scp to copy the large file from my desktop computer to the Acer. The first time I tried it, all 5mb transferred just fine. It would only get through about 3mb of that before locking up with the WPA2 security enabled. I then attempted to copy that file a second time, entering the exact same command. And after getting about halfway through the transfer (just short of 3mb) the connection was locked up just the same as it was before. So the problem still exists with the wireless security turned off. It seems to transfer about twice as much data before locking up, though. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Frank Cox So the problem still exists with the wireless security turned off. It seems to transfer about twice as much data before locking up, though. Does your router appliance have any logging capabilities which are enabled? Is your router spending more time logging events when connected with the Aspire One? -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
hmmm... ok. does the router have any logging function? if it does, anything in the logs? what kind of router by the way? also. if you have time, are you willing to see if you can setup a test between your two machines/router with the machines both having static ip addresses? i'm curious to nail down exactly what the issue might be... i'm inclined to think it's a setting somewhere in the router... you say you're using scp... can you setup a nis share on one of the boxes, and attach from the other, and copy the files from the client, to the nis share? -Original Message- From: Frank Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:01 PM To: bruce Cc: 'Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. ' Subject: Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:31:53 -0800 bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i ask you to try setting up your system, without encryption/passwords... as a test... i'm wondering if the security aspects are causing some sort of conflict. I just turned set the wireless security on my router to disabled and then booted the Acer Aspire One and got it online wirelessly. I then used scp to copy the large file from my desktop computer to the Acer. The first time I tried it, all 5mb transferred just fine. It would only get through about 3mb of that before locking up with the WPA2 security enabled. I then attempted to copy that file a second time, entering the exact same command. And after getting about halfway through the transfer (just short of 3mb) the connection was locked up just the same as it was before. So the problem still exists with the wireless security turned off. It seems to transfer about twice as much data before locking up, though. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
Frank Cox wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:31:53 -0800 bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i ask you to try setting up your system, without encryption/passwords... as a test... i'm wondering if the security aspects are causing some sort of conflict. I just turned set the wireless security on my router to disabled and then booted the Acer Aspire One and got it online wirelessly. I then used scp to copy the large file from my desktop computer to the Acer. The first time I tried it, all 5mb transferred just fine. It would only get through about 3mb of that before locking up with the WPA2 security enabled. I then attempted to copy that file a second time, entering the exact same command. And after getting about halfway through the transfer (just short of 3mb) the connection was locked up just the same as it was before. So the problem still exists with the wireless security turned off. It seems to transfer about twice as much data before locking up, though. Dumb question - does the router get hot during the transfer? This sure sounds like a router problem. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:08:04 -0900 Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does your router appliance have any logging capabilities which are enabled? Is your router spending more time logging events when connected with the Aspire One? It doesn't appear to. The only log setting it has is security log and there's nothing relevant in there. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:13:07 -0600 Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dumb question - does the router get hot during the transfer? This sure sounds like a router problem. The transfer lasts less than 5 seconds before it locks up. So the case has no time to get hot. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:13:07 -0600 Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dumb question - does the router get hot during the transfer? This sure sounds like a router problem. The transfer lasts less than 5 seconds before it locks up. So the case has no time to get hot. See this: http://www.wi-fitechnology.com/belkin-router-lock-up-when-using-azerus-Forum-927.html Someone had a similar problem with file transfers and mentions changing the size of the MTU. It indicates an MTU of 1400 for Belkin works ok. Take it with a grain of salt. A Belkin G Router manual is found here: http://www.belkin.com/support/article/?lid=enpid=F5D7230-4aid=5999scid=221 Page 35 suggests that incorrect MTU settings can cause problems. You can access your Belkin using Firefox and its IP address to check the settings. Elsewhere someone suggest you can access MTU setting by using this URL 192.168.x.x/wan_pppoe.html HTH, ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:46:49 -0800 Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone had a similar problem with file transfers and mentions changing the size of the MTU. It indicates an MTU of 1400 for Belkin works ok. Take it with a grain of salt. You may be on to something here. The router settings seem to apply to pppoe connections only. My ISP uses a standard dhcp server to give me my address -- no pppoe involved. Plus my problem isn't with communicating with external stuff. Just the opposite, in fact. However, I did some experimenting by setting the mtu in the Network Manager edit connections box. It started out as automatic, which seemed to be 1500. I changed that to 1400 and got about twice as much data transferred with my scp command as I ever managed before before the router locked up. I then changed it to 1350 and it locked up after transferring about 25% of what I could transfer with the default 1500 setting. So... this suggests that if I can just find the correct magical mtu setting, I might be in business. Which leads to the question: How can I find out what the proper mtu setting might be? It's interesting that the other Intel laptop works fine using the default 1500 setting. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:02:09 -0600 Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What should I be looking at here? Here is the relevant section of /var/log/messages when I try to connect. I think I'm in trouble from the very first line. Couldn't get connection secrets This worked fine last night and for most of today. I couldn't get it online just before lunch with this same problem, but after lunch it worked fine again. A while back it just stopped responding on the wireless connection and when now I can't get it to reconnect. Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: WARN get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get connection secrets: applet-device-wifi.c.1522 (get_secrets_dialog_response_cb): canceled. Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 6 - 9 Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) failed for access point (melvilletheatre.net) Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Marking connection 'Auto melvilletheatre.net' invalid. Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) failed. Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 9 - 3 Nov 4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): deactivating device (reason: 0). Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) starting connection 'Auto melvilletheatre.net' Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 3 - 4 Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled... Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting... Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 4 - 5 Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0/wireless): access point 'Auto melvilletheatre.net' has security, but secrets are required. Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 5 - 6 Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 6 - 4 Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled... Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting... Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 4 - 5 Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0/wireless): connection 'Auto melvilletheatre.net' has security, and secrets exist. No new secrets needed. Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Config: added 'ssid' value 'melvilletheatre.net' Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'WPA-PSK' Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Config: added 'psk' value 'omitted' Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info Config: set interface ap_scan to 1 Nov 4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: disconnected - scanning Nov 4 17:50:14 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: scanning - associating Nov 4 17:50:34 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: associating - disconnected Nov 4 17:50:34 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: disconnected - scanning Nov 4 17:50:35 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: scanning - associating Nov 4 17:50:38 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0/wireless): association took too long. Nov 4 17:50:38 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 5 - 6 Nov 4 17:50:38 acer NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0/wireless): asking for new secrets Nov 4 17:50:38 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: associating - disconnected Nov 4 17:50:53 acer NetworkManager: info wlan0: link timed out. Nov 4 17:52:20 acer NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: disconnected - scanning -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:24 -0600 Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:02:09 -0600 Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What should I be looking at here? Here is the relevant section of /var/log/messages when I try to connect. I think I'm in trouble from the very first line. Couldn't get connection secrets I just went to my router's configuration page and told it to reset router. Now I can connect wirelessly again. This is really odd because throughout this episode I could still get a wireless connection with my other laptop. In fact, the wireless on that laptop has always been rock-solid, it just works. I'm thinking that something in the way that Network Manager handles the wireless connection is getting confused somewhere along the line, but I don't see why resetting the router would clear the problem. I'm open to any ideas. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Frank Cox I'm open to any ideas. Is you other laptop windows? If it is is windows aggressively caching routing information and reusing it even though your router appliance was failing to hand it out? -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:36:42 -0900 Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is you other laptop windows? Nope. It's an Intel laptop running F8. And again, it's never failed to work wirelessly. Even when this Acer was refusing to go online the Intel worked fine. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:45:21 -0600 Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And again, it's never failed to work wirelessly. Even when this Acer was refusing to go online the Intel worked fine. I think I've discovered a pattern here. The problem appears to be caused by what can best be described as going too fast. If I get a wireless connection going with my Acer Aspire One I can use it for what appears to be an indefinite period of time as long as I'm doing lower-speed stuff. Log into it with SSH, use VNC, browse the net, run yum install and so on. All appears to be well. However, as soon as I try to copy a large file locally over the network, the wireless connection locks up. For example, this command to copy a file from this desktop computer to the Acer: scp MyFonts-1.0-1.noarch.rpm acer:/home/frankcox Got this far and stalled: WindowsVistaFonts-1.0-1.noarch.rpm 56% 3088KB 361.5KB/s - stalled - The only way to get the connection back is to go to the router's configuration page and reset router. I'm sure that I've copied large files over the wireless connection to my other laptop before (I don't see why I wouldn't have) and I've never seen this lockup problem before. I've tried this twice and had the same thing happen both times. And when I lost my connection earlier today it was when attempting to copy a large file as well. So... do I need to slow something down somewhere? Has anyone ever heard of this type of an overrun on a wireless connection? (I can do local copying of large files via the wired ethernet connection on the Acer just fine.) I'm just about out of time to play with this for the moment but later tonight I'll copy another large file and I'll see if my other laptop still connects wirelessly after the connection to the Acer locks up. It still connected earlier this afternoon but that was after the Acer connection had been locked up for a while. It's obviously not locking up the whole router because I can still log into the router's configuration page to reset it. But again, it won't let me reconnect to the router with the Acer until I reset the router. Otherwise it just keeps asking me for the WPA2 password. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:18:01 -0600 Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just about out of time to play with this for the moment but later tonight I'll copy another large file and I'll see if my other laptop still connects wirelessly after the connection to the Acer locks up. It still connected earlier this afternoon but that was after the Acer connection had been locked up for a while. It's obviously not locking up the whole router because I can still log into the router's configuration page to reset it. But again, it won't let me reconnect to the router with the Acer until I reset the router. Otherwise it just keeps asking me for the WPA2 password. Now I've done some more experimenting. I put both the Acer and my other laptop online wirelessly. Copying a large file from my desktop computer to the Acer locks up the wireless side of the router. The copy fails after just over 3mb has been transferred and you can't do anything with the wireless connections after that. While the connections still read as up (four bars) on both laptops, you can't communicate and you can't re-connect until the router has been reset. Copying that exact same file (and a bunch more afterward for good measure) from my desktop computer to my other laptop works perfectly. The files transfer and everything works just like it should both before and after the copy has been sent. If I don't copy large files from my desktop computer to the Acer when it's connected wirelessly, then everything seems to work. I can use the Acer to browse the web and so on without any apparent problem that I've seen to date. I'm pretty sure it's something to do with higher transfer speed that you get with a local file copy versus something that's coming in over the internet. The Acer is apparently sending something unexpected to the router that causes the wireless functions of the router to lock up. The wired connections to the router continue to work normally. The router is a Belkin Wireless G. I wonder if there is some kind of a stop for a moment because I'm overloaded command that the Acer is sending to the router, and forgetting to tell the router to start again afterward. I just filed this here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469994 -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
