Re: Rant: Clamav is not well-integrated

2009-07-13 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury

On 07/13/2009 10:32 AM, Dunc wrote:

G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:

Thanks for listening.

G.Wolfe Woodbury


I sure pretty much anyone who uses clamav uses the one from RPMforge.

Its a lot tidier and actually works out the box, and has a service set
up for clamd

The fedora one is well known for its awfulness

Dunc


Thank You for the hint!

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Re: Rant: Clamav is not well-integrated

2009-07-13 Thread Dunc

G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
I've just spent a frustrating two hours trying to get clamav installed 
and running.  Ultimately I turned if off again to get mail flowing.


First, there are too many different packages required to get the 
system working: clamav-milter, clamav-scanner, freshclam, etc

There should be an easy to install package that gets everything.

Second: The integration into the user system is messy, two usernames 
and multiple groups and conflicting permissions are in use.


Third: It takes manual intervention to get sendmail.mc correctly 
formed and clamav integrated.  I understand that this is necessarily a 
manual process, but there is essentially no documentation of what 
should be done in a recipe.


Fourth: Clamav-milter is different from clamd and there is no 
initscript support for clamd (the scanner daemon) which should be 
controlled by the clamav-milter initscript.


Fifth: Freshclam (the updater) should be better integrated. It takes a 
separate install and configuration (manual) step, and then it 
complains that the version is already out-of-date!


Sixth: I really appreciate the work that the package maintainer has 
done, but the integration and logic are much less than clear and clean.


Thanks for listening.

G.Wolfe Woodbury


I sure pretty much anyone who uses clamav uses the one from RPMforge.

Its a lot tidier and actually works out the box, and has a service set 
up for clamd


The fedora one is well known for its awfulness

Dunc

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Rant: Clamav is not well-integrated

2009-07-13 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
I've just spent a frustrating two hours trying to get clamav installed 
and running.  Ultimately I turned if off again to get mail flowing.


First, there are too many different packages required to get the system 
working: clamav-milter, clamav-scanner, freshclam, etc

There should be an easy to install package that gets everything.

Second: The integration into the user system is messy, two usernames and 
multiple groups and conflicting permissions are in use.


Third: It takes manual intervention to get sendmail.mc correctly formed 
and clamav integrated.  I understand that this is necessarily a manual 
process, but there is essentially no documentation of what should be 
done in a recipe.


Fourth: Clamav-milter is different from clamd and there is no initscript 
support for clamd (the scanner daemon) which should be controlled by the 
clamav-milter initscript.


Fifth: Freshclam (the updater) should be better integrated. It takes a 
separate install and configuration (manual) step, and then it complains 
that the version is already out-of-date!


Sixth: I really appreciate the work that the package maintainer has 
done, but the integration and logic are much less than clear and clean.


Thanks for listening.

G.Wolfe Woodbury

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