Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-05 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Nigel Henry wrote:
> Up to a few hours ago, when I found out that my torrent download hadn't 
> completed, there were many folks still seeding, and was able to complete the 
> download.
> 
> I've attached the .torrent file as well, as it's only 9.9KB.

Thanks!  I just downloaded it very fast, so some people are still
seeding.  I'll try to do so for a while too.

Matt Flaschen

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-05 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 05 March 2009 21:54, Jake Peavy wrote:
> On 3/5/09, g  wrote:
> > Jake Peavy wrote:
> > > On 3/3/09, Steve Searle  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only
> >
> > > Dammit!  Missed it.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a copy they can email me?  The site says we can share
> >
> > with
> >
> > > friends ;-)
> >
> >  email 
> >
> > are you aware that file is approx 130,919,531 bytes?
>
> That had not occurred to us, Dude.
>
> Is it still being seeded?  Does anyone have a tracker?

Being a first time user of bittorrent, I'm not sure if this is what you want. 
Anyway, in Transmissions tracker tab, I have the URL below, which is prefixed 
by "Tier" 1.

http://www.linuxformat.co.uk:6969/announce

Up to a few hours ago, when I found out that my torrent download hadn't 
completed, there were many folks still seeding, and was able to complete the 
download.

I've attached the .torrent file as well, as it's only 9.9KB.

Nigel



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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-05 Thread Jake Peavy
On 3/5/09, g  wrote:
>
> Jake Peavy wrote:
> > On 3/3/09, Steve Searle  wrote:
> >>
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only
> >
> > Dammit!  Missed it.
> >
> > Does anyone have a copy they can email me?  The site says we can share
> with
> > friends ;-)
>
>
>  email 
>
> are you aware that file is approx 130,919,531 bytes?
>


That had not occurred to us, Dude.

Is it still being seeded?  Does anyone have a tracker?

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-05 Thread g
Jake Peavy wrote:
> On 3/3/09, Steve Searle  wrote:
>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only
> 
> Dammit!  Missed it.
> 
> Does anyone have a copy they can email me?  The site says we can share with
> friends ;-)

 email 

are you aware that file is approx 130,919,531 bytes?



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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Jay Mistry
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Steve Searle  wrote:
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only
>
> Steve

They also have a "Linux Starter pack" (Beginner's guide to setting-up
& using Ubuntu Linux, 130 pg PDF) for download-
http://www.tuxradar.com/linuxstarterpack, at the companion website
http://www.tuxradar.com/. That one does not have a d/l time limit.

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Jake Peavy
On 3/3/09, Steve Searle  wrote:
>
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only
>

Dammit!  Missed it.

Does anyone have a copy they can email me?  The site says we can share with
friends ;-)

TIA

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> A word on terminology: BT clients (and torrent sites) talk about Seeders
> and Leechers. The only difference between the two is that Leechers are
> still downloading part of the torrent, while Seeders have finished
> downloading. Both types are uploading.

Sometimes "leecher" is also used to refer to a pure leecher who does not
upload anything. Sadly, the terminology is not completely unambiguous.

Of course, a pure leecher will get throttled to bad download rates, both as
a kind of sanction for uncooperativeness and for practical reasons (it's
more useful to use one's limited bandwidth to push bits to someone likely
to redistribute them to many more members of the swarm than to a dead end
where they'll only benefit a single person). When you have the choice,
BitTorrent is not a good protocol to use if you only want to leech without
uploading, e.g. if you are behind a firewall which only allows you to
download and not upload.

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 01:51 +, Dave Bolt IT Solutions wrote:
> >
> > I'll have to look further into this. It appears that I'm downloading using
> > torrent, but not giving anything back (seeding).
> >
> > Nigel.
> >
> >From what I've seen, you have to complete downloading a file before it will 
> start seeding. At least that's what happened when I downloaded some iso 
> images recently.

Both Ktorrent and Qbittorrent can upload parts of a torrent without
waiting for all of it to download, which is fairlt important to how BT
works. If your client isn't doing this then check the settings. You may
be limiting it for bandwidth reasons.

A word on terminology: BT clients (and torrent sites) talk about Seeders
and Leechers. The only difference between the two is that Leechers are
still downloading part of the torrent, while Seeders have finished
downloading. Both types are uploading.

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Bolt IT Solutions


I'll have to look further into this. It appears that I'm downloading using
torrent, but not giving anything back (seeding).

Nigel.

From what I've seen, you have to complete downloading a file before it will 
start seeding. At least that's what happened when I downloaded some iso 
images recently.


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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 04 March 2009, Nigel Henry wrote:
>On Wednesday 04 March 2009 22:06, phil wrote:
>> Nigel Henry wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 04 March 2009 15:05, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:42:29PM +, Steve Searle wrote:
>> >>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-on
>> >>>l y
>> >
>> > I havn't seen a Linux Format mag since I moved to France in Sept 2004.
>> > No money for the sub.
>> >
>> > Seeing the link above, I thought, "that's worth going for". Clicked on
>> > the hi res download, only to find it was torrent, which I've never used
>> > before.
>> >
>> > I had to go and collect bread, and other stuff on my bike at the local
>> > town, so sometime later, and back at the ranch, I fire up F10, which I
>> > know has Ktorrent on it. Click on "Help" in K torrent, but no help
>> > files. Doh! . I'm sort of used to this with KDE, although I use it all
>> > the time, but is annoying when you want to try a new app, but there is
>> > no info on how to use it.
>> >
>> > Anyway, that aside, I see another app in KDE's Internet menu
>> > "Transmission". That may be a Gnome app, but at least it's got info on
>> > how to use it. I'm on dialup, but I drag the .torrent file into
>> > transmissions main window, and get the torrent downloading the file. I
>> > don't think there is a hope in hell of it running to completion before
>> > Linux Format remove the link, which is a shame, as it would have been
>> > nice to read a Linux Format mag again.
>> >
>> > How do these torrent downloads work, for instance with this PDF
>> > download? Say for example If I get 90% of it downloaded, before I lose
>> > the torrent link. Am I likely to be able to open the PDF, and view some
>> > of the pages, or am I going to have all the pages, but bits and pieces
>> > missing from each of them?
>> >
>> > I suppose whichever way this goes, I've learned a bit about torrent, and
>> > the next time I need to use it I'll be a bit more clued up.
>> >
>> > Nigel.
>>
>> no matter if lxf remove their seeding server myself (and i'm sure many
>> others) will keep seeding it for a while which should allow you to
>> finish your download :)
>>
>> phil
>
>Thanks for that info Phil. So I may get it completed after all, which would
> be nice.
>
>I know I'm on dialup, but it's odd that the "Transmission" app is not
> showing anything being uploaded, but the downloading is using all available
> dialup bandwidth.
>
>Gkrellm shows some stuff being transmitted, but all below 1K.
>
>I'll have to look further into this. It appears that I'm downloading using
>torrent, but not giving anything back (seeding).
>
>Nigel.

With your limited landline bandwidth, it may not start seeding until the 
download is done.  What you see going out are probably just the acks and block 
requests to fill in the blanks.

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 22:06, phil wrote:
> Nigel Henry wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 March 2009 15:05, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:42:29PM +, Steve Searle wrote:
> >>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-onl
> >>>y
> >
> > I havn't seen a Linux Format mag since I moved to France in Sept 2004. No
> > money for the sub.
> >
> > Seeing the link above, I thought, "that's worth going for". Clicked on
> > the hi res download, only to find it was torrent, which I've never used
> > before.
> >
> > I had to go and collect bread, and other stuff on my bike at the local
> > town, so sometime later, and back at the ranch, I fire up F10, which I
> > know has Ktorrent on it. Click on "Help" in K torrent, but no help files.
> > Doh! . I'm sort of used to this with KDE, although I use it all the time,
> > but is annoying when you want to try a new app, but there is no info on
> > how to use it.
> >
> > Anyway, that aside, I see another app in KDE's Internet menu
> > "Transmission". That may be a Gnome app, but at least it's got info on
> > how to use it. I'm on dialup, but I drag the .torrent file into
> > transmissions main window, and get the torrent downloading the file. I
> > don't think there is a hope in hell of it running to completion before
> > Linux Format remove the link, which is a shame, as it would have been
> > nice to read a Linux Format mag again.
> >
> > How do these torrent downloads work, for instance with this PDF download?
> > Say for example If I get 90% of it downloaded, before I lose the torrent
> > link. Am I likely to be able to open the PDF, and view some of the pages,
> > or am I going to have all the pages, but bits and pieces missing from
> > each of them?
> >
> > I suppose whichever way this goes, I've learned a bit about torrent, and
> > the next time I need to use it I'll be a bit more clued up.
> >
> > Nigel.
>
> no matter if lxf remove their seeding server myself (and i'm sure many
> others) will keep seeding it for a while which should allow you to
> finish your download :)
>
> phil

Thanks for that info Phil. So I may get it completed after all, which would be 
nice.

I know I'm on dialup, but it's odd that the "Transmission" app is not showing 
anything being uploaded, but the downloading is using all available dialup 
bandwidth.

Gkrellm shows some stuff being transmitted, but all below 1K.

I'll have to look further into this. It appears that I'm downloading using 
torrent, but not giving anything back (seeding).

Nigel.





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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread phil

Nigel Henry wrote:

On Wednesday 04 March 2009 15:05, Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:42:29PM +, Steve Searle wrote:

http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only


I havn't seen a Linux Format mag since I moved to France in Sept 2004. No 
money for the sub.


Seeing the link above, I thought, "that's worth going for". Clicked on the hi 
res download, only to find it was torrent, which I've never used before.


I had to go and collect bread, and other stuff on my bike at the local town, 
so sometime later, and back at the ranch, I fire up F10, which I know has 
Ktorrent on it. Click on "Help" in K torrent, but no help files. Doh! . I'm 
sort of used to this with KDE, although I use it all the time, but is 
annoying when you want to try a new app, but there is no info on how to use 
it.


Anyway, that aside, I see another app in KDE's Internet menu "Transmission". 
That may be a Gnome app, but at least it's got info on how to use it. I'm on 
dialup, but I drag the .torrent file into transmissions main window, and get 
the torrent downloading the file. I don't think there is a hope in hell of it 
running to completion before Linux Format remove the link, which is a shame, 
as it would have been nice to read a Linux Format mag again.


How do these torrent downloads work, for instance with this PDF download? Say 
for example If I get 90% of it downloaded, before I lose the torrent link. Am 
I likely to be able to open the PDF, and view some of the pages, or am I 
going to have all the pages, but bits and pieces missing from each of them?


I suppose whichever way this goes, I've learned a bit about torrent, and the 
next time I need to use it I'll be a bit more clued up.


Nigel.




no matter if lxf remove their seeding server myself (and i'm sure many 
others) will keep seeding it for a while which should allow you to 
finish your download :)


phil

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 21:41:55 +0100,
  Nigel Henry  wrote:
> 
> How do these torrent downloads work, for instance with this PDF download? Say 
> for example If I get 90% of it downloaded, before I lose the torrent link. Am 
> I likely to be able to open the PDF, and view some of the pages, or am I 
> going to have all the pages, but bits and pieces missing from each of them?

Torrents don't pull in bytes in order. So pieces could be missing anywhere
in the file. Restarting the torrent should pick up where it left off though.

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 15:05, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:42:29PM +, Steve Searle wrote:
> > http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only

I havn't seen a Linux Format mag since I moved to France in Sept 2004. No 
money for the sub.

Seeing the link above, I thought, "that's worth going for". Clicked on the hi 
res download, only to find it was torrent, which I've never used before.

I had to go and collect bread, and other stuff on my bike at the local town, 
so sometime later, and back at the ranch, I fire up F10, which I know has 
Ktorrent on it. Click on "Help" in K torrent, but no help files. Doh! . I'm 
sort of used to this with KDE, although I use it all the time, but is 
annoying when you want to try a new app, but there is no info on how to use 
it.

Anyway, that aside, I see another app in KDE's Internet menu "Transmission". 
That may be a Gnome app, but at least it's got info on how to use it. I'm on 
dialup, but I drag the .torrent file into transmissions main window, and get 
the torrent downloading the file. I don't think there is a hope in hell of it 
running to completion before Linux Format remove the link, which is a shame, 
as it would have been nice to read a Linux Format mag again.

How do these torrent downloads work, for instance with this PDF download? Say 
for example If I get 90% of it downloaded, before I lose the torrent link. Am 
I likely to be able to open the PDF, and view some of the pages, or am I 
going to have all the pages, but bits and pieces missing from each of them?

I suppose whichever way this goes, I've learned a bit about torrent, and the 
next time I need to use it I'll be a bit more clued up.

Nigel.




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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Bolt IT Solutions

Yep, that's where I got my copy of Fc10.
Saved a load of download time :-)
Been quite a few interesting articles and comments too.

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Subject: Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:42:29PM +, Steve Searle wrote:

http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only



Pity they didn't do this with the previous issue, check out the cover:



http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/covers/115-big.jpg



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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:42:29PM +, Steve Searle wrote:
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only

Pity they didn't do this with the previous issue, check out the cover:

http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/covers/115-big.jpg

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-03 Thread g
Kam Leo wrote:

> You might make it clear that the download is a PDF the latest issue of
> Linux Format magazine.

would be difficult to send mag thru internet. :)

plus, html would not do lxf justice.

> By the way, it's the first time I have heard of
> this magazine which I learned from Google search is UK based.

live and learn, die and forget.

lxf has been around a few years. issue 116 = 10 yrs 8 months. they also
run 2 and 3 special issues.

lxf covers new distribs, new programs, reviews, q & a, etc, plus include
a monthly dvd. [started with cd]

last i read one, 6+ months, minimal ads.

over all, a good read.


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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-03 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Steve Searle  wrote:
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only
>
> Steve

You might make it clear that the download is a PDF the latest issue of
Linux Format magazine. By the way, it's the first time I have heard of
this magazine which I learned from Google search is UK based.

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