Re: Backing up system

2009-03-27 Thread GMS S

Hi,
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download
With the SystemRescueCd I backed up the /dev/sda6 partition in /mnt/backup/ 
naming diskimage

After backing up operation the file has the automatic extension like 
diskimage.000.
Is this file ok to restore?
If I name it diskimage.gz then it is automatically renamed with this 
extension diskimage.gz.000

But here below
http://www.sysresccd.org/Screenshots
the file is name like this:
diskimage.pimg

Do I have to name with the .pimg extension during backup to restore correctly?

And how can I restore it? 


  

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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-27 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:29 AM, GMS S gms...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Hi,
 http://www.sysresccd.org/Download
 With the SystemRescueCd I backed up the /dev/sda6 partition in /mnt/backup/
 naming diskimage

 After backing up operation the file has the automatic extension like
 diskimage.000.
 Is this file ok to restore?
 If I name it diskimage.gz then it is automatically renamed with this
 extension diskimage.gz.000


The name is correct. It always use .000, .001, .002  because
the image can be broken into several pieces, in some cases.





 But here below
 http://www.sysresccd.org/Screenshots
 the file is name like this:
 diskimage.pimg

 Do I have to name with the .pimg extension during backup to restore
 correctly?


No.



 And how can I restore it?


You will use the file you created:

diskimage.000

(do not forget of typing the extension .000), check the restore box, and
point to the partition (its size has to be greater than or equal to the size
of the original partition) in the new disk that will receive the backup:

http://orion.lcg.ufrj.br/roma/LCG_partimage.html

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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-27 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Hope this isn't to Off-Topic... but related info.

Been watching this thread, and want to mention the methods that I have 
used. G4L and G4U can both do disk and partition images. I must point out 
that I am the current maintainer of the Free G4L. 

I develop the system on my Fedora machines, but it uses the kernel.org 
kernels. The program can be booted from the cd, or it can be added to a 
system by adding options to the grub menu, or even from windows using 
grub4dos. 

It is basically using the dd command to copy the sectors, and uses lzop, gzip, 
bzip2 or no compression on the image. It can backup to an ftp server, or to 
another disk or partition, or make a clone of a disk. It is not a file level 
backup, up disk or partition. 

I use it in my computer lab to backup the 80GB disk with 98, XP, and Fedora 
10  in about 50 minutes making a 12GB image file on a 250GB disk on my 
AMD64 Fedora machine. 

It does work best if you clear unused space before doing an image to reduce 
space since the null filled sectors compress to almost nothing. 

The program is available on sourceforge and freshmeat. 


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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-27 Thread Bill Crawford
On Friday 27 March 2009 09:01:30 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

 It does work best if you clear unused space before doing an image to reduce
 space since the null filled sectors compress to almost nothing.

How do you do that?

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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-27 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Bill Crawford wrote:
 On Friday 27 March 2009 09:01:30 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
 
 It does work best if you clear unused space before doing an image to reduce
 space since the null filled sectors compress to almost nothing.
 
 How do you do that?

head -c 1 /dev/zero 100mega

will create a file with 100 million zeros.
You create as many files as your free space requires, until
the disk is almost full.

Then you delete them all. The disk blocks will keep their
values (zeros) and most of your free space will now be clean.

Slow if you have a lot of free space, but the trick works with
any kind of filesystem (if it is not compressing or encrypting,
that is).

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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-27 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 27 Mar 2009 at 12:42, Bill Crawford wrote:

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 On Friday 27 March 2009 09:01:30 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
 
  It does work best if you clear unused space before doing an image to reduce
  space since the null filled sectors compress to almost nothing.
 
 How do you do that?

The cd has various scripts and programs on it to help.
cleandrive is the simplest script that free space for linux/unix.

dd if=/dev/zero of=/0bits bs=20M
rm /0bits

That script does it, but no feedback on process. cleandrive5 and cleandrive6 
do the same but use Dialog or Xdialog to provide a progress bar. The require 
the appropriate dialog program be installed and the jetcat-mod program 
copied to the / directory. 

For fat32 and ntfs partitions blank6.exe can be used to clear free space for 
Windows. The is a lblank6 linux program that does a similar task from linux 
on the mounted fat32 or ntfs partition. 

Additionally, there are other programs on the web that do this.

Long ago, I had done a Fedora 3 full install on a 80GB disk, and did an 
image. Produced a 12GB compressed image file. Then cleared unused 
space, and redid image. Only a 2.5GB image file. So, the random 
information from the drive took 9.5GB of space.



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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-26 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:02 AM, gms...@yahoo.com wrote:


 promac wrote:

 [
 You can do this way, but ideally your file system should be unmounted (boot
 from
 a live CD/DVD).

 I, personally, use BackupPC for /home and partimage for the file system (/
 and /boot).

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 ]

 Would someone please tell how to use partimage to backup whole fedora 10
 system in detail?

 rpm -qa | grep partimage
 partimage-0.6.7-5.fc10.i386


Please, read:

/usr/share/doc/partimage-0.6.7/README.partimage.html





 I also downloaded systemrescuecd and burned it.
 But can't use it to backup whole fedora 10 system(actually I don't know how
 to use it)
 Booting this cd can't find graphical option.


Try xinit


 fdisk -l

 Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 8002528 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x29032902

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sda1   *   1191215358108+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 /dev/sda21913944960540952+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
 /dev/sda394509729 2249100   82  Linux swap /
 Solaris
 /dev/sda51913560929696121b  W95 FAT32
 /dev/sda65610828621502971   83  Linux
 /dev/sda782879449 9341766   83  Linux

 I am trying to backup /dev/sda6 partition.
 Is it necessary to backup the /proc , /sys, /lost+found , /media, /mnt,
 directory to be backed up?



 Is it possible to backup /dev/sda6 partition excluding these
 directory(/proc , /sys, /lost+found , /media, /mnt,) with partimage or
 systemrescuecd?


Partimage will make a copy of the whole partition. You cannot exclude
anything.




 If I copy the whole /dev/sda6 partition in a portable hard disk(250GB),then
 after reinstalling minimum fedora 10 and copy-paste that /dev/sda6 from the
 portable hard disk to the newly installed fedora 10's root (/) directory
 ,will it work ?


In fact, you do not need to reinstall. You can use / and /boot (if it is in
its own partition) from your backup. Generally, you just need to adapt
grub.conf,
fstab in some cases and/or run mkinitrd to recreate the initial initrd img.


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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-26 Thread GMS S

Hi,
With the SystemRescueCd ,typing xinit in the terminal a graphical interface 
with the terminal appears.
There typing partimage got the partimage window.
Giving a filename like backup the backing up process starts.
After a while it prompts that there is no space left.

The current directory was like this: [r...@localhost/root]#

What should I do then?
Where should I save the backup file?
Can anyone give any idea? 


  

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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-26 Thread Roberto Ragusa
GMS S wrote:
 Hi,
 Reading this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
 I ran this command from terminal being root
 
 
 tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found 
 --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/sys /

I suppose some excludes could have been replaced with
  --one-file-system

 But the last two lines from terminal.
 
 
 /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

Something (not critical) has happened in the middle of the operation.
Since you backup a working system, this can easily happen.

You have to review all the output of the command if you want to know
what was wrong. Save the output to a log, as someone else advised you,
and then find it out.

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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-26 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:38 AM, GMS S gms...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Hi,
 With the SystemRescueCd ,typing xinit in the terminal a graphical interface
 with the terminal appears.
 There typing partimage got the partimage window.
 Giving a filename like backup the backing up process starts.
 After a while it prompts that there is no space left.

 The current directory was like this: [r...@localhost/root]#

 What should I do then?
 Where should I save the backup file?
 Can anyone give any idea?



You have two options:

1) Save the image on another computer, in your LAN, running a
partimage-server.

2) Mount a different partition (e.g., /dev/sda5) on the same computer and
save the image there. systemrescuecd has an empty directory you can use as a
mount point for this purpose.


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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-25 Thread gmspro

promac wrote:

[
You can do this way, but ideally your file system should be unmounted (boot
from
a live CD/DVD).

I, personally, use BackupPC for /home and partimage for the file system (/
and /boot).

-- 
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LCG - UFRJ
]

Would someone please tell how to use partimage to backup whole fedora 10 system 
in detail?

rpm -qa | grep partimage
partimage-0.6.7-5.fc10.i386

I also downloaded systemrescuecd and burned it.
But can't use it to backup whole fedora 10 system(actually I don't know how to 
use it)
Booting this cd can't find graphical option.

fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 8002528 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x29032902

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1        1912    15358108+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2            1913        9449    60540952+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda3            9450        9729     2249100   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda5            1913        5609    29696121    b  W95 FAT32
/dev/sda6            5610        8286    21502971   83  Linux
/dev/sda7            8287        9449     9341766   83  Linux

I am trying to backup /dev/sda6 partition.
Is it necessary to backup the /proc , /sys, /lost+found , /media, /mnt, 
directory to be backed up?

Is it possible to backup /dev/sda6 partition excluding these directory(/proc , 
/sys, /lost+found , /media, /mnt,) with partimage or systemrescuecd?

If I copy the whole /dev/sda6 partition in a portable hard disk(250GB),then
after reinstalling minimum fedora 10 and copy-paste that /dev/sda6 from the 
portable hard disk to the newly installed fedora 10's root (/) directory ,will 
it work ?

In serious trouble.
Someone please tell how to backup easily as I don't have any live cd.

df -h
/dev/sda6  21G  7.8G   12G  41% /
tmpfs 501M   76K  501M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda5  29G  6.4G   22G  23% /media/disk
/dev/sda1  15G  3.2G   12G  22% /media/disk-1
/dev/sda7 8.8G  1.9G  6.6G  22% /media/disk-2


Thanks.



  


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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-21 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:25 AM, GMS S gms...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Reading this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
 I ran this command from terminal being root


 tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found 
 --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/sys /

 But the last two lines from terminal.


 /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

 Why is that for?
 What should I do now?



The editor of the link you refer to says this:
EDIT2:
At the end of the process you might get a message along the lines
of 'tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors' or something, but in
most cases you can just ignore that.
That means that tar found some errors but it continued its operation
anyway. Look at the size of
the tar file, try to restore a file or two to test it.

One way to find out what is going on is to pipe the tar action to a log file
and check it. Add to the end of the tar command something like  | tee
tar.log, which
will create a text filed named tar.log. If you find a troublesome dir,
just exclude it and
do a test run. Read the tar man page or eSearch the errors you get to
learn more.
.
good luck.
~af

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