Re: Evolution and Gmail
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 17:14 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 07:43:22PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 23:49 +, Paul W. Frields wrote: PS Works is a relative term here. Mostly works is closer to the truth because Evo occasionally loses contact with Gmail and has to be restarted to get it back. I don't know if this is an Evo problem or a Gmail one. I don't have the problem using Evo with any other of my IMAP sources, so I'm guessing it's Gmail related. I tend to agree. I just wish I could figure out what to do about it since it's pretty annoying. I have to restart Evo several times a day because of this (I normally leave it running permanently). I suspect but have not yet proved to myself that 'your' server moves and the connection fails because the google box is different. Given the size of the google farm and the numerous servers and gateways and network magic that 'your' server moves and the connection fails because the google box is different. Some NAT tricks come to mind that make this possible but very hard to track from this side of the gateway. I often see gmail connections die even with 'mutt' and have started to sync my mail box prior to a reply. Often after a well considered email (=lots of time editing) I find that my connection to the mailbox is gone. You may find this interesting: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.mutt/browse_thread/thread/d24f6f01cc5a3817 Executive summary: for Mutt, reduce imap_keepalive to under 10 minutes. For Evolution I don't know what the equivalent is, but I've set the check for new mail timeout to 5 minutes to see what happens. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and Gmail
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:36:29AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 17:14 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 07:43:22PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 23:49 +, Paul W. Frields wrote: PS Works is a relative term here. Mostly works is closer to the truth because Evo occasionally loses contact with Gmail and has to ... I often see gmail connections die even with 'mutt' and have started to sync my mail box prior to a reply. Often after a well considered email (=lots of time editing) I find that my connection to the mailbox is gone. You may find this interesting: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.mutt/browse_thread/thread/d24f6f01cc5a3817 Executive summary: for Mutt, reduce imap_keepalive to under 10 minutes. For Evolution I don't know what the equivalent is, but I've set the check for new mail timeout to 5 minutes to see what happens. Thanks the mutt param change seems to help. so many knobs and so little time ;-) -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new hat, now what? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and Gmail
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 07:43:22PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 23:49 +, Paul W. Frields wrote: PS Works is a relative term here. Mostly works is closer to the truth because Evo occasionally loses contact with Gmail and has to be restarted to get it back. I don't know if this is an Evo problem or a Gmail one. I don't have the problem using Evo with any other of my IMAP sources, so I'm guessing it's Gmail related. I tend to agree. I just wish I could figure out what to do about it since it's pretty annoying. I have to restart Evo several times a day because of this (I normally leave it running permanently). I suspect but have not yet proved to myself that 'your' server moves and the connection fails because the google box is different. Given the size of the google farm and the numerous servers and gateways and network magic that 'your' server moves and the connection fails because the google box is different. Some NAT tricks come to mind that make this possible but very hard to track from this side of the gateway. I often see gmail connections die even with 'mutt' and have started to sync my mail box prior to a reply. Often after a well considered email (=lots of time editing) I find that my connection to the mailbox is gone. Given the price I guess I cannot complain. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new hat, now what? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and Gmail
Il giorno lun, 22/09/2008 alle 23.49 +, Paul W. Frields ha scritto: I think, given the error message, you may need to change your username to xxx.xxx and not [EMAIL PROTECTED] in both the Receiving Email and Sending Email tabs for your Gmail account. Alredy done, but same response. Are you using imap.gmail.com:993 with SSL for receiving and smtp.gmail.com:465 with SSL for sending? That's what works for me (Evo version 2.22.3 on F9). The Gmail Help page has full information. Removed also the port number, I use my sendmail to send email (that is also authenticated) so I don't need the send part of the configuration. I read the gmail documentation, that don't support evolution :-) I read also some other web page in wich is stated that IMAP from gmail is a little buggy, so not all software can work with it. I don't know if it is true, but I will install thunderbird and I will try to configure it on gmail IMAP to understand where is the problem. Tnx to all Ambrogio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and Gmail
Il giorno lun, 22/09/2008 alle 23.49 +, Paul W. Frields ha scritto: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 17:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 23:14 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to use Evolution to fetch mail from gmail account. I configured Evo 2.12.3 (from Fedora 8) to use IMAP or POP but the result is the same: It seems SSL is not used (or similar issue on auth fase). I receive an error from evo for POP the error is: -ERR [AUTH] Username and password not accepted. Insert the password for [EMAIL PROTECTED] on pop.gmail.com for IMPA the error is: [ALERT] Web login required (Failure) Insert password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@imap.gmail.com hmmm so strange, I receive the same error (Web login required) also with thunderbird So, I don't know if problem is on gmail or in some library for SSL auth. Bye Ambrogio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and Gmail - SOLVED
Hi all, I reply to my post because I solved the issue and someone can see the same problem. Il giorno mar, 23/09/2008 alle 10.47 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo ha scritto: for POP the error is: -ERR [AUTH] Username and password not accepted. Insert the password for [EMAIL PROTECTED] on pop.gmail.com for IMAP the error is: [ALERT] Web login required (Failure) Insert password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@imap.gmail.com hmmm so strange, I receive the same error (Web login required) also with thunderbird I needed to remove the captcha. Found a little FAQ that say.. If you have problems in authentication use the link https://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha Not found before, because no mention about the error reported by the software, so a search (also with google) didn't help. Bye Ambrogio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and Gmail
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 23:14 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to use Evolution to fetch mail from gmail account. I configured Evo 2.12.3 (from Fedora 8) to use IMAP or POP but the result is the same: It seems SSL is not used (or similar issue on auth fase). I receive an error from evo for POP the error is: -ERR [AUTH] Username and password not accepted. Insert the password for [EMAIL PROTECTED] on pop.gmail.com for IMPA the error is: [ALERT] Web login required (Failure) Insert password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@imap.gmail.com I'm sure that the user and password are correct. I changed password to be more sure. Someone can help me understanding the problem? Are you using imap.gmail.com:993 with SSL for receiving and smtp.gmail.com:465 with SSL for sending? That's what works for me (Evo version 2.22.3 on F9). The Gmail Help page has full information. poc PS Works is a relative term here. Mostly works is closer to the truth because Evo occasionally loses contact with Gmail and has to be restarted to get it back. I don't know if this is an Evo problem or a Gmail one. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and Gmail
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 17:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 23:14 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to use Evolution to fetch mail from gmail account. I configured Evo 2.12.3 (from Fedora 8) to use IMAP or POP but the result is the same: It seems SSL is not used (or similar issue on auth fase). I receive an error from evo for POP the error is: -ERR [AUTH] Username and password not accepted. Insert the password for [EMAIL PROTECTED] on pop.gmail.com for IMPA the error is: [ALERT] Web login required (Failure) Insert password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@imap.gmail.com I'm sure that the user and password are correct. I changed password to be more sure. Someone can help me understanding the problem? I think, given the error message, you may need to change your username to xxx.xxx and not [EMAIL PROTECTED] in both the Receiving Email and Sending Email tabs for your Gmail account. Are you using imap.gmail.com:993 with SSL for receiving and smtp.gmail.com:465 with SSL for sending? That's what works for me (Evo version 2.22.3 on F9). The Gmail Help page has full information. I don't have to provide port numbers, as long as I choose IMAP with SSL encryption and SMTP with SSL encryption (i.e. the standard ports are used by Gmail), and check server requires authentication for sending email. PS Works is a relative term here. Mostly works is closer to the truth because Evo occasionally loses contact with Gmail and has to be restarted to get it back. I don't know if this is an Evo problem or a Gmail one. I don't have the problem using Evo with any other of my IMAP sources, so I'm guessing it's Gmail related. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and Gmail
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 23:49 +, Paul W. Frields wrote: PS Works is a relative term here. Mostly works is closer to the truth because Evo occasionally loses contact with Gmail and has to be restarted to get it back. I don't know if this is an Evo problem or a Gmail one. I don't have the problem using Evo with any other of my IMAP sources, so I'm guessing it's Gmail related. I tend to agree. I just wish I could figure out what to do about it since it's pretty annoying. I have to restart Evo several times a day because of this (I normally leave it running permanently). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and Gmail
Il giorno lun, 22/09/2008 alle 17.44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto: PS Works is a relative term here. Mostly works is closer to the truth because Evo occasionally loses contact with Gmail and has to be restarted to get it back. I don't know if this is an Evo problem or a Gmail one. I also have a Gmail account, but never have a problem with it. Here (at home) I have Evolution 2.6.3 on Debian 4, so I think that probably it is a problem of Evo. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
