Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
Hi, I have this experience: I installed using a live F8 xfce spin cd and yum erased all 386/586/686 RPMs as you suggest. Thus, all my rpms are either x86_64 or noarch. Btw, I may be wrong on this, but I thought the F10 xfce spin cd (x86_64) did not have any ?86 RPMS. The only functionality I am missing is the flash: I was unaware of the 64-bt alpha adobe plugin. I have never quite understood why gnash does not work for me (even where it works, I don't get sound), but I haven't bothered a whole lot with it. So, go ahead and try it out and see how things go for you. HTH, T --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Steve Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Steve Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10? > To: "Fedora Mailing List" > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:07 PM > Hello. > > I'm about to wipe my x86_64 F8 installation in > preparation for > installing x86_64 F10. Since I'll be doing a clean > install, I'm > feeling adventurous. My plan is to go 64-bit only - no > 32-bit > binaries. Mind if I ask a few questions? > > 1. In prior versions of Fedora there was no provision for > doing a > 64-bit-only installation. You had to do a standard x86_64 > install, > then erase all the i386/i686 RPMs. Is that still the case, > or can I > opt at installation to only install x86_64 and noarch > packages? > > 2. What functionality will I be giving up to go > 64-bit-only? In times > past the immediate answers to this was Flash Player and the > Sun JVM > browser plug-in. Between the alpha 64-bit Flash Player > (which I've > been successfully using for 3 weeks) and IcedTea, these > drawbacks seem > to have been resolved. Anything else? > > Thanks. > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:07:05 -0500 Steve Snyder wrote: > 2. What functionality will I be giving up to go 64-bit-only? In times > past the immediate answers to this was Flash Player and the Sun JVM > browser plug-in. Between the alpha 64-bit Flash Player (which I've > been successfully using for 3 weeks) and IcedTea, these drawbacks seem > to have been resolved. Anything else? acroread -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
2008/12/8 Steve Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 1. In prior versions of Fedora there was no provision for doing a > 64-bit-only installation. You had to do a standard x86_64 install, > then erase all the i386/i686 RPMs. Is that still the case, or can I > opt at installation to only install x86_64 and noarch packages? I did a 64bit install and there don't seem to be any 32bit binaries (if you don't install them by hand, they are in the repositories). > 2. What functionality will I be giving up to go 64-bit-only? In times > past the immediate answers to this was Flash Player and the Sun JVM > browser plug-in. Between the alpha 64-bit Flash Player (which I've > been successfully using for 3 weeks) and IcedTea, these drawbacks seem > to have been resolved. Anything else? All 32bit binary programs you want to run will not work. Mostly that will be commercial games, but if you don't use those... Nels -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All 32bit binary programs you want to run will not work. I think you mean "not all 32-bit programs you want to run will work". poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> All 32bit binary programs you want to run will not work. > > I think you mean "not all 32-bit programs you want to run will work". All dynamically linked 32bit programs will not work. Is that better? Niels -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> All 32bit binary programs you want to run will not work. >> >> I think you mean "not all 32-bit programs you want to run will work". > > All dynamically linked 32bit programs will not work. > > Is that better? That depends on what you mean. You're saying that no dynamically-linked 32-bit program will work. If you mean that some will and some won't, then that's not what you're saying. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All 32bit binary programs you want to run will not work. >>> >>> I think you mean "not all 32-bit programs you want to run will work". >> >> All dynamically linked 32bit programs will not work. >> >> Is that better? > > That depends on what you mean. You're saying that no > dynamically-linked 32-bit program will work. If you mean that some > will and some won't, then that's not what you're saying. I'm talking of those you don't get the source for obviously. If I'm wrong in that, please explain how such a program would work. Niels -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> 2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All 32bit binary programs you want to run will not work. I think you mean "not all 32-bit programs you want to run will work". >>> >>> All dynamically linked 32bit programs will not work. >>> >>> Is that better? >> >> That depends on what you mean. You're saying that no >> dynamically-linked 32-bit program will work. If you mean that some >> will and some won't, then that's not what you're saying. > > I'm talking of those you don't get the source for obviously. > > If I'm wrong in that, please explain how such a program would work. By linking to 32-bit libraries? Multilib support is precisely for this situation, as far as I'm aware. I've never had a 32-bit app fail to run on my 64-bit system, e.g. 32-bit Firefox works fine (though I now use the 64-bit version). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
Steve Snyder wrote: Hello. I'm about to wipe my x86_64 F8 installation in preparation for installing x86_64 F10. Since I'll be doing a clean install, I'm feeling adventurous. My plan is to go 64-bit only - no 32-bit binaries. Mind if I ask a few questions? 1. In prior versions of Fedora there was no provision for doing a 64-bit-only installation. You had to do a standard x86_64 install, then erase all the i386/i686 RPMs. Is that still the case, or can I opt at installation to only install x86_64 and noarch packages? 2. What functionality will I be giving up to go 64-bit-only? In times past the immediate answers to this was Flash Player and the Sun JVM browser plug-in. Between the alpha 64-bit Flash Player (which I've been successfully using for 3 weeks) and IcedTea, these drawbacks seem to have been resolved. Anything else? Thanks. It seems like I have replied to this question several times lately, but perhaps more in conversation than on the list. Anyways, there is a beta 64bit flash that works well. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html Adobe's acrobat reader works just fine. Just install with: # yum localinstall AdobeReader_enu-8.1.2_SU1-1.i486.rpm Many other commercial and non commercial 32bit apps that do not have a 64bit version, can also be installed this way. Good luck! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
2008/12/10 Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Niels Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> All 32bit binary programs you want to run will not work. > > I think you mean "not all 32-bit programs you want to run will work". All dynamically linked 32bit programs will not work. Is that better? >>> >>> That depends on what you mean. You're saying that no >>> dynamically-linked 32-bit program will work. If you mean that some >>> will and some won't, then that's not what you're saying. >> >> I'm talking of those you don't get the source for obviously. >> >> If I'm wrong in that, please explain how such a program would work. > > By linking to 32-bit libraries? Multilib support is precisely for this > situation, as far as I'm aware. > > I've never had a 32-bit app fail to run on my 64-bit system, e.g. > 32-bit Firefox works fine (though I now use the 64-bit version). I'm aware of Multilib and I've been running a 64bit install for years now and using it to run 32bit binaries. The original poster was asking for a 64bit only system though. If it is 64bit only, it will obviously not have 32bit libs. Niels -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
