Re: Fedora on old hardware?

2008-09-10 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

James Wilkinson wrote:

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
Just to let you know, your system will make a piss poor graphical system  
(too slow) with the current environments.  You'd really have to dig  
around to find a light-weight one that works.  Its probably OK for  
command line stuff though.


Um. The Original Poster didn’t tell us how much memory he had. In my
experience, a K6-2 should be fine for processor power for anything that
isn’t CPU intensive, but is unlikely to have enough memory to run Gnome
or KDE well.


Most K6-2 motherboards maxed out around 384MB.


A K6-2 really isn’t that much slower than some of the new Intel Atom
processors found in some of the new light-weight laptops.


No, but they come with old BIOSes and don't support large disks or much RAM.


Hope this helps,

James.




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Re: Fedora on old hardware?

2008-09-09 Thread James Wilkinson
Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> Just to let you know, your system will make a piss poor graphical system  
> (too slow) with the current environments.  You'd really have to dig  
> around to find a light-weight one that works.  Its probably OK for  
> command line stuff though.

Um. The Original Poster didn’t tell us how much memory he had. In my
experience, a K6-2 should be fine for processor power for anything that
isn’t CPU intensive, but is unlikely to have enough memory to run Gnome
or KDE well.

A K6-2 really isn’t that much slower than some of the new Intel Atom
processors found in some of the new light-weight laptops.

Hope this helps,

James.

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Re: Fedora on old hardware?

2008-09-09 Thread Mike McCarty

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Konstantin Svist wrote:

I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8.


I had no trouble installing Fedora 7 on a K6-2 500 that I have here.


I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only.
At least it says the CPU is incompatible...


Yes, the K6 is a 586 compatible CPU, not a 686


I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the
install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and
doesn't install.


I didn't have this problem with F7.  It installed for me.


Is this something that happens a lot?


I don't know, that system isn't running right now, I'd have to put it 
back together and try with something later



Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :)
Going to try latest Ubuntu now...


Just to let you know, your system will make a piss poor graphical system 
(too slow) with the current environments.  You'd really have to dig 
around to find a light-weight one that works.  Its probably OK for 
command line stuff though.


DSL should run fine, and I suspect that Puppy would work well
if he's got enough RAM.

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Re: Fedora on old hardware?

2008-09-08 Thread Konstantin Svist
I see, so F8 is just broken for older hardware installs... but I don't
want F9 as its KDE is not up to snuff just yet...



fedora wrote:
> I  installed F9 on a Pentium II MMX, 366MHz.
> I could not make it install over the Network, because it has PCMCIA
> only connection to Ethernet, and I did not find the correct module for
> the PCMCIA card or the correct module was ill-configured for that
> installation.
> then I tried from the live cd: the live cd run and installed, and
> everything works close to fine. it's not exactly a shot, but better
> than nothing.
>
> I earlier tried to install F8 on a K2, but this really did not work. I
> then  installed openBSD on the K2, and it worked like a charm.
>
> suomi
>
> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 22:40 -0400, fred smith wrote:
>>> On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:35:29PM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:
 I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8.
>> Did you try F9? I recall some older Fedoras' installers had been broken
>> on i586's (but I don't recall which Fedora this had been :) ).
>>
 I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686
 only.
 At least it says the CPU is incompatible...
 I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the
 install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and
 doesn't install.
 Is this something that happens a lot?

 Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :)
 Going to try latest Ubuntu now...
>>> A K6 (or K6-II) is a pentium (P5) class processor, not a P6 (i686)
>>> class
>>> processor. Many distributions have dropped support for processors older
>>> than 686-class. I suspect Fedora is one of them, though I don't know
>>> with certainty.
>>
>> Once it is installed, Fedora runs well on Intel P5s - At least on my old
>> Intel P5.
>>
>> However, this doesn't mean much wrt. K6s.
>>
>> Ralf
>>
>>
>

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Re: Fedora on old hardware?

2008-09-08 Thread fedora

I  installed F9 on a Pentium II MMX, 366MHz.
I could not make it install over the Network, because it has PCMCIA only 
connection to Ethernet, and I did not find the correct module for the 
PCMCIA card or the correct module was ill-configured for that installation.
then I tried from the live cd: the live cd run and installed, and 
everything works close to fine. it's not exactly a shot, but better than 
nothing.


I earlier tried to install F8 on a K2, but this really did not work. I 
then  installed openBSD on the K2, and it worked like a charm.


suomi

Ralf Corsepius wrote:

On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 22:40 -0400, fred smith wrote:

On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:35:29PM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:

I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8.

Did you try F9? I recall some older Fedoras' installers had been broken
on i586's (but I don't recall which Fedora this had been :) ).


I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only.
At least it says the CPU is incompatible...
I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the
install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and
doesn't install.
Is this something that happens a lot?

Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :)
Going to try latest Ubuntu now...

A K6 (or K6-II) is a pentium (P5) class processor, not a P6 (i686) class
processor. Many distributions have dropped support for processors older
than 686-class. I suspect Fedora is one of them, though I don't know 
with certainty.


Once it is installed, Fedora runs well on Intel P5s - At least on my old
Intel P5.

However, this doesn't mean much wrt. K6s.

Ralf




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Re: Fedora on old hardware?

2008-09-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 22:40 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:35:29PM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> > I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8.
Did you try F9? I recall some older Fedoras' installers had been broken
on i586's (but I don't recall which Fedora this had been :) ).

> > I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only.
> > At least it says the CPU is incompatible...
> > I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the
> > install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and
> > doesn't install.
> > Is this something that happens a lot?
> > 
> > Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :)
> > Going to try latest Ubuntu now...
> 
> A K6 (or K6-II) is a pentium (P5) class processor, not a P6 (i686) class
> processor. Many distributions have dropped support for processors older
> than 686-class. I suspect Fedora is one of them, though I don't know 
> with certainty.

Once it is installed, Fedora runs well on Intel P5s - At least on my old
Intel P5.

However, this doesn't mean much wrt. K6s.

Ralf


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Re: Fedora on old hardware?

2008-09-07 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Konstantin Svist wrote:

I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8.


I had no trouble installing Fedora 7 on a K6-2 500 that I have here.


I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only.
At least it says the CPU is incompatible...


Yes, the K6 is a 586 compatible CPU, not a 686


I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the
install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and
doesn't install.


I didn't have this problem with F7.  It installed for me.


Is this something that happens a lot?


I don't know, that system isn't running right now, I'd have to put it 
back together and try with something later



Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :)
Going to try latest Ubuntu now...


Just to let you know, your system will make a piss poor graphical system 
(too slow) with the current environments.  You'd really have to dig 
around to find a light-weight one that works.  Its probably OK for 
command line stuff though.


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Re: Fedora on old hardware?

2008-09-07 Thread fred smith
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:35:29PM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8.
> I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only.
> At least it says the CPU is incompatible...
> I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the
> install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and
> doesn't install.
> Is this something that happens a lot?
> 
> Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :)
> Going to try latest Ubuntu now...

A K6 (or K6-II) is a pentium (P5) class processor, not a P6 (i686) class
processor. Many distributions have dropped support for processors older
than 686-class. I suspect Fedora is one of them, though I don't know 
with certainty.


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