Re: Fedora on old hardware?
James Wilkinson wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Just to let you know, your system will make a piss poor graphical system (too slow) with the current environments. You'd really have to dig around to find a light-weight one that works. Its probably OK for command line stuff though. Um. The Original Poster didn’t tell us how much memory he had. In my experience, a K6-2 should be fine for processor power for anything that isn’t CPU intensive, but is unlikely to have enough memory to run Gnome or KDE well. Most K6-2 motherboards maxed out around 384MB. A K6-2 really isn’t that much slower than some of the new Intel Atom processors found in some of the new light-weight laptops. No, but they come with old BIOSes and don't support large disks or much RAM. Hope this helps, James. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on old hardware?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > Just to let you know, your system will make a piss poor graphical system > (too slow) with the current environments. You'd really have to dig > around to find a light-weight one that works. Its probably OK for > command line stuff though. Um. The Original Poster didn’t tell us how much memory he had. In my experience, a K6-2 should be fine for processor power for anything that isn’t CPU intensive, but is unlikely to have enough memory to run Gnome or KDE well. A K6-2 really isn’t that much slower than some of the new Intel Atom processors found in some of the new light-weight laptops. Hope this helps, James. -- E-mail: james@ | “It has taken 24 years to get the Reichstag wrapped. aprilcottage.co.uk | Chancellor Kohl said it would only be wrapped over his | dead body, so sensing an opportunity the Bundestag | outvoted him.” -- The Guardian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on old hardware?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8. I had no trouble installing Fedora 7 on a K6-2 500 that I have here. I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only. At least it says the CPU is incompatible... Yes, the K6 is a 586 compatible CPU, not a 686 I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and doesn't install. I didn't have this problem with F7. It installed for me. Is this something that happens a lot? I don't know, that system isn't running right now, I'd have to put it back together and try with something later Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :) Going to try latest Ubuntu now... Just to let you know, your system will make a piss poor graphical system (too slow) with the current environments. You'd really have to dig around to find a light-weight one that works. Its probably OK for command line stuff though. DSL should run fine, and I suspect that Puppy would work well if he's got enough RAM. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on old hardware?
I see, so F8 is just broken for older hardware installs... but I don't want F9 as its KDE is not up to snuff just yet... fedora wrote: > I installed F9 on a Pentium II MMX, 366MHz. > I could not make it install over the Network, because it has PCMCIA > only connection to Ethernet, and I did not find the correct module for > the PCMCIA card or the correct module was ill-configured for that > installation. > then I tried from the live cd: the live cd run and installed, and > everything works close to fine. it's not exactly a shot, but better > than nothing. > > I earlier tried to install F8 on a K2, but this really did not work. I > then installed openBSD on the K2, and it worked like a charm. > > suomi > > Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 22:40 -0400, fred smith wrote: >>> On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:35:29PM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8. >> Did you try F9? I recall some older Fedoras' installers had been broken >> on i586's (but I don't recall which Fedora this had been :) ). >> I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only. At least it says the CPU is incompatible... I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and doesn't install. Is this something that happens a lot? Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :) Going to try latest Ubuntu now... >>> A K6 (or K6-II) is a pentium (P5) class processor, not a P6 (i686) >>> class >>> processor. Many distributions have dropped support for processors older >>> than 686-class. I suspect Fedora is one of them, though I don't know >>> with certainty. >> >> Once it is installed, Fedora runs well on Intel P5s - At least on my old >> Intel P5. >> >> However, this doesn't mean much wrt. K6s. >> >> Ralf >> >> > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on old hardware?
I installed F9 on a Pentium II MMX, 366MHz. I could not make it install over the Network, because it has PCMCIA only connection to Ethernet, and I did not find the correct module for the PCMCIA card or the correct module was ill-configured for that installation. then I tried from the live cd: the live cd run and installed, and everything works close to fine. it's not exactly a shot, but better than nothing. I earlier tried to install F8 on a K2, but this really did not work. I then installed openBSD on the K2, and it worked like a charm. suomi Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 22:40 -0400, fred smith wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:35:29PM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8. Did you try F9? I recall some older Fedoras' installers had been broken on i586's (but I don't recall which Fedora this had been :) ). I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only. At least it says the CPU is incompatible... I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and doesn't install. Is this something that happens a lot? Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :) Going to try latest Ubuntu now... A K6 (or K6-II) is a pentium (P5) class processor, not a P6 (i686) class processor. Many distributions have dropped support for processors older than 686-class. I suspect Fedora is one of them, though I don't know with certainty. Once it is installed, Fedora runs well on Intel P5s - At least on my old Intel P5. However, this doesn't mean much wrt. K6s. Ralf -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on old hardware?
On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 22:40 -0400, fred smith wrote: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:35:29PM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > > I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8. Did you try F9? I recall some older Fedoras' installers had been broken on i586's (but I don't recall which Fedora this had been :) ). > > I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only. > > At least it says the CPU is incompatible... > > I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the > > install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and > > doesn't install. > > Is this something that happens a lot? > > > > Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :) > > Going to try latest Ubuntu now... > > A K6 (or K6-II) is a pentium (P5) class processor, not a P6 (i686) class > processor. Many distributions have dropped support for processors older > than 686-class. I suspect Fedora is one of them, though I don't know > with certainty. Once it is installed, Fedora runs well on Intel P5s - At least on my old Intel P5. However, this doesn't mean much wrt. K6s. Ralf -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on old hardware?
Konstantin Svist wrote: I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8. I had no trouble installing Fedora 7 on a K6-2 500 that I have here. I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only. At least it says the CPU is incompatible... Yes, the K6 is a 586 compatible CPU, not a 686 I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and doesn't install. I didn't have this problem with F7. It installed for me. Is this something that happens a lot? I don't know, that system isn't running right now, I'd have to put it back together and try with something later Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :) Going to try latest Ubuntu now... Just to let you know, your system will make a piss poor graphical system (too slow) with the current environments. You'd really have to dig around to find a light-weight one that works. Its probably OK for command line stuff though. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on old hardware?
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:35:29PM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8. > I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only. > At least it says the CPU is incompatible... > I've also tried the i386 DVD - it fails around the beginning of the > install process with a generic message that something went wrong - and > doesn't install. > Is this something that happens a lot? > > Knoppix 5.11 live CD booted up just fine (although really slow :) > Going to try latest Ubuntu now... A K6 (or K6-II) is a pentium (P5) class processor, not a P6 (i686) class processor. Many distributions have dropped support for processors older than 686-class. I suspect Fedora is one of them, though I don't know with certainty. -- --- .Fred Smith / ( /__ ,__. __ __ / __ : / // / /__) / / /__) .+' Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // (__ (___ (__(_ (___ / :__ 781-438-5471 Jude 1:24,25 - pgpbQVh9tSQgq.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines