Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
On Friday 22 May 2009 21:04:38 Robin Laing wrote: Todd Denniston wrote: Clemens Eisserer wrote, On 05/22/2009 07:50 AM: crash of what? details? Plasma of course. I already filed a bug with a complete stack-trace. Like I did with all the other crashes I've reported with a full stack-trace, which haven't been looked at. (Except for the first-level guys sorting dups out). - Clemens and it is bugzilla # what, so that we all know WHICH of the stack traces are relevant to this thread? Thanks. I would like to see the number(s) as well because I have full crashes/freezes with F10 and KDE but nothing to go on. No logs or messages of any type. Most of these problems are caused by graphics card drivers. KDE 4 stresses parts of the drivers previously unused. All the major three providers are working on the problems. As a workaround you sometimes have to turn off all desktop effects, In other cases editing xorg.conf helps. It's worth reading http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance for some tips. For a greater understanding of what's happening in the driver world, read this article about Intel drivers: http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/ Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
crash of what? details? Plasma of course. I already filed a bug with a complete stack-trace. Like I did with all the other crashes I've reported with a full stack-trace, which haven't been looked at. (Except for the first-level guys sorting dups out). - Clemens 2009/5/20, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu: Clemens Eisserer wrote: Right click desktop - Appearance settings - Desktop Activity change Type: Desktop to Type: FolderView - KCrash. Well actually KDE4 was the reason why I stayed on Fedora-8 until lately. crash of what? details? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
Clemens Eisserer wrote, On 05/22/2009 07:50 AM: crash of what? details? Plasma of course. I already filed a bug with a complete stack-trace. Like I did with all the other crashes I've reported with a full stack-trace, which haven't been looked at. (Except for the first-level guys sorting dups out). - Clemens and it is bugzilla # what, so that we all know WHICH of the stack traces are relevant to this thread? Thanks. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
On 05/19/2009 08:48 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jim wrote: Trying to put Icons on Desktop. Dragging a app/icon from menu to Desktop, when you want to put a icon in a certain place, Kde moves it some place other than where you want it. You have no control of where you put Icons. This has nothing to do with Folder view Then this is your first problem. You aren't supposed to put icons directly on the Plasma desktop, only inside the Desktop folder shown by the folder view (unless you set your entire desktop to be a folder view, as KDE 4.2 now allows). Putting icons directly on the Plasma desktop is legacy functionality kept only for backwards compatibility with KDE 4.0 (so you don't lose icons configured in 4.0.x). Kevin Kofler Yeah !, will you tell that to the rest of my family that I have Fedora/KDE on their boxes, they have been using Fedora since 6 and they want their Icons on the desktop, not in a shaded window. Now if you want their phone numbers, I would gladly send them to you. But I must warn you, when you get to my Brother, lots of luck. As far as he is concern, it's the old way or no way at all. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
Jim wrote: Yeah !, will you tell that to the rest of my family that I have Fedora/KDE on their boxes, they have been using Fedora since 6 and they want their Icons on the desktop, not in a shaded window. Right click desktop - Appearance settings - Desktop Activity change Type: Desktop to Type: FolderView then you can get rid of the shaded window FolderView you don't like. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
Right click desktop - Appearance settings - Desktop Activity change Type: Desktop to Type: FolderView - KCrash. Well actually KDE4 was the reason why I stayed on Fedora-8 until lately. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
Clemens Eisserer wrote: Right click desktop - Appearance settings - Desktop Activity change Type: Desktop to Type: FolderView - KCrash. Well actually KDE4 was the reason why I stayed on Fedora-8 until lately. crash of what? details? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
Jim wrote: Trying to put Icons on Desktop. Dragging a app/icon from menu to Desktop, when you want to put a icon in a certain place, Kde moves it some place other than where you want it. You have no control of where you put Icons. This has nothing to do with Folder view Then this is your first problem. You aren't supposed to put icons directly on the Plasma desktop, only inside the Desktop folder shown by the folder view (unless you set your entire desktop to be a folder view, as KDE 4.2 now allows). Putting icons directly on the Plasma desktop is legacy functionality kept only for backwards compatibility with KDE 4.0 (so you don't lose icons configured in 4.0.x). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Trying to put Icons on Desktop. Dragging a app/icon from menu to Desktop, when you want to put a icon in a certain place, Kde moves it some place other than where you want it. You have no control of where you put Icons. This has nothing to do with Folder view I just dragged a shortcut from my menu to the desktop. And it's where I left it. No folder-view here as well. I'll leave the icon there till I hear back from you. -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Trying to put Icons on Desktop. Dragging a app/icon from menu to Desktop, when you want to put a icon in a certain place, Kde moves it some place other than where you want it. You have no control of where you put Icons. This has nothing to do with Folder view I just dragged a shortcut from my menu to the desktop. And it's where I left it. No folder-view here as well. I'll leave the icon there till I hear back from you. Something awfully weirdy is going on, I logged out of KDE and came back in and it corrected the problem. One of the unexplainables , at least I will know what to do the next time it happens. Thanks for your responds . Hopefully they will get rid of these crazy little happenings in KDE someday, some year, who knows. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Something awfully weirdy is going on, I logged out of KDE and came back in and it corrected the problem. One of the unexplainables , at least I will know what to do the next time it happens. Thanks for your responds . Hopefully they will get rid of these crazy little happenings in KDE someday, some year, who knows. I don't use icons so I haven't had the opportunity to see this bug. Hopefully it's fixed in KDE 4.2.3 -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
