Re: Hardware browser??
--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Beartooth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Beartooth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Hardware browser?? > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 11:44 AM > Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while > it had > two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly > simplified. > > Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? > Can I add > it with yum? Some other way? > > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert > Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. > > -- You can use smolt :) $ smoltSendProfile tyoe $smolt choice(s) SendProfile DeleteProfile should appear. It will place smolt profile in a webpage with your hardware. I have sent my profile and my hardware is at http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_4ed3ce67-7e8a-47b7-ab87-f233baa29848 (public) Hope this helps. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +, Beartooth wrote: > Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had > two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified. > > Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add > it with yum? Some other way? > yum install lshw-gui should see you sorted. Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:36:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +, Beartooth wrote: >> Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had >> two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified. >> >> Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add >> it with yum? Some other way? >> >> > yum install lshw-gui > > should see you sorted. Hmm ... Neat name, impressive command; but is there a way to make it usable by subtechnoids? Can I pipe the -xml or -html options into a browser, for instance? Or something into baobab for it to use as labels? Most recent example : I got the livna display configuration kmod- nvidia stuff, and it helped; but it didn't tell me whether to use the nvidia configurator or the livna one, or both; and the livna page warned me that I might have any of several cards. I'd like to check that last, and tackle it again. One of the old hardware browsers, iirc, would have enabled even me to find out what video card I have. (An electronic friend is kind enough to assemble machines to meet my budget, every year or three; but I never needed to know one video card from another -- till I got this blankety-blank new monitor ...) -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:16 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:36:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +, Beartooth wrote: > >>Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had > >> two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified. > >> > >>Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add > >> it with yum? Some other way? > >> > >> > > yum install lshw-gui > > > > should see you sorted. > > Hmm ... Neat name, impressive command; but is there a way to make > it usable by subtechnoids? Can I pipe the -xml or -html options into a > browser, for instance? Or something into baobab for it to use as labels? > No idea badbob etc.. but lshw-gui will tell you make of card, model of moderboard in simple english, either through the GUI "Hardware Lister" or the cli as roor lshw #lshw *-display UNCLAIMED description: VGA compatible controller product: G70 [GeForce 7600 GS] vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:01:00.0 version: a1 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:30:41 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > #lshw > > > *-display UNCLAIMED > description: VGA compatible controller product: G70 > [GeForce 7600 GS] > vendor: nVidia Corporation > physical id: 0 > bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:01:00.0 > version: a1 > width: 64 bits > clock: 33MHz > capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller > bus_master cap_list > configuration: latency=0 > > OK, I'm glad to know it can be done. But do I really have to slog through that enormous, incomprehensible output line by line? I tried = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep vga [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep video [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep unclaimed and even [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# roor lshw -bash: roor: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# = = = But, as you see, they all just ran, and gave me no output at all. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 17:16 +, Beartooth wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep vga > [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep video > [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep unclaimed Try 'grep -i' poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 17:16 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:30:41 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > = = = > [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep vga > [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep video > [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep unclaimed > > and even > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# roor lshw > -bash: roor: command not found > [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# well roor was a typo for root. (sorry) > = = = > > But, as you see, they all just ran, and gave me no output at all. try:# lshw -short|grep display -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:53:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 17:16 +, Beartooth wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep vga [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw >> -short|grep video [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep unclaimed > > Try 'grep -i' = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep -i "compatible controller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep -i unclaimed [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep -i video /0/100/1/0 displayK8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep -i vga [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# = = = (Nothing else got any feedback.) Does that tell us anything?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:27:00 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 17:16 +, Beartooth wrote: >> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:30:41 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> = = = >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep vga [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw >> -short|grep video [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep unclaimed >> >> and even >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# roor lshw >> -bash: roor: command not found >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# > > well roor was a typo for root. (sorry) So I had assumed -- but tried it anyway. >> = = = >> >> But, as you see, they all just ran, and gave me no output at all. > > try:# lshw -short|grep display = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep -i vga [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep display /0/100/1/0 displayK8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lshw -short|grep -i display /0/100/1/0 displayK8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# = = = I tried google linux on K8K890 and Chrome9, but if there's help there, it's over my head ... -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
Hi Beartooth; I am answering this at the risk of offending you. On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:16 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:36:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +, Beartooth wrote: > >>Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had > >> two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified. > >> > >>Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add > >> it with yum? Some other way? > >> > >> > > yum install lshw-gui > > > > should see you sorted. > > Hmm ... Neat name, impressive command; but is there a way to make > it usable by subtechnoids? Can I pipe the -xml or -html options into a > browser, for instance? Or something into baobab for it to use as labels? > > Most recent example : I got the livna display configuration kmod- > nvidia stuff, and it helped; but it didn't tell me whether to use the > nvidia configurator or the livna one, or both; and the livna page warned > me that I might have any of several cards. > > I'd like to check that last, and tackle it again. One of the old > hardware browsers, iirc, would have enabled even me to find out what > video card I have. (An electronic friend is kind enough to assemble > machines to meet my budget, every year or three; but I never needed to > know one video card from another -- till I got this blankety-blank new > monitor ...) > Because of the advice given in response to your original post and wanting a hardware browser myself, I downloaded and installed lshw-gui. A little confusing at first, the display needs to be better configured. Are you clicking on each of the components to get the details ? (i.e. It's parts tree is horizontal rather than verical) Sorry to take up your time, if you already understood this. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:09 +, Beartooth wrote: > = = = > > I tried google linux on K8K890 and Chrome9, but if there's help > there, it's over my head ... > http://www.logix.cz/michal/devel/suse-openchrome/index.xp?show_selected=1&msgid=1090 Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:14:28 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:09 +, Beartooth wrote: > >> = = = >> >> I tried google linux on K8K890 and Chrome9, but if there's help >> there, it's over my head ... >> >> > http://www.logix.cz/michal/devel/suse-openchrome/index.xp? show_selected=1&msgid=1090 Hmmm ... Noticing that was for SUSE of some sort, I went to rpmfind, searched fedora i386, and got this (with a minor excess) : = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# ls|grep openchrome xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.902-7.fc9.i386.rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# ls|grep openchrome xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.902-3.fc8.i386.rpm xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.902-7.fc9.i386.rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# rpm -ivh xorg-x11-drv- openchrome-0.2.902-3.fc8.i386.rpm Preparing... ### [100%] 1:xorg-x11-drv-openchrome ### [100%] [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# = = = So will either an upgrade with my original F9 DVD, or "yum upgrade" handle that? Or will I have to re-install the rpmfind download? And how do I use it? Just log out and in? Run the livna configurator again? Some other configurator? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:27 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:14:28 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:09 +, Beartooth wrote: > > > >>= = = > >> > >>I tried google linux on K8K890 and Chrome9, but if there's help > >> there, it's over my head ... > >> > >> > > http://www.logix.cz/michal/devel/suse-openchrome/index.xp? > show_selected=1&msgid=1090 > > > So will either an upgrade with my original F9 DVD, or "yum > upgrade" handle that? Or will I have to re-install the rpmfind download? > > And how do I use it? Just log out and in? Run the livna > configurator again? Some other configurator? > * Fedora : * Fedora Core 2 up to Fedora Core 6 : http://washington.kelkoo.net/epia * Fedora 7 and newer : just run 'yum install xorg-x11-drv-openchrome'. * Fedora 9 and newer : openchrome is the default driver for VIA IGPs. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:27 +, Beartooth wrote: Sorry hit reply too quick. afaict. livna can not control via graphics. Just use the display applet. (Open to correction) FRank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:13:41 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi Beartooth; > > I am answering this at the risk of offending you. On the contrary! Many thanks! When in doubt, assume I *have* missed something; as the Boomers retire and escape the Gates of Hell, there will be accelerating numbers of people needing the same things -- even when I do know or have seen, as was not the case here. You're a great help! > Because of the advice given in response to your original post and > wanting a hardware browser myself, I downloaded and installed lshw-gui. > A little confusing at first, the display needs to be better configured. > > Are you clicking on each of the components to get the details ? > > (i.e. It's parts tree is horizontal rather than vertical) No, in fact I hadn't. I certainly wondered why the display was so sparse, but a horizontal tree is new to me (at least if it's an electronic tree). So I tried lshw, lshw-gui, and lshw-gui &; but no combination of left clicks, right clicks, and hitting enter with either of the latter two got me any more than a tiny yellow box saying "This pane displays " (I have all machines set to single-click, in case that matters.) And I get that much (more than I had before) just by hovering the cursor. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:13:41 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Beartooth; I am answering this at the risk of offending you. On the contrary! Many thanks! When in doubt, assume I *have* missed something; as the Boomers retire and escape the Gates of Hell, there will be accelerating numbers of people needing the same things -- even when I do know or have seen, as was not the case here. You're a great help! Because of the advice given in response to your original post and wanting a hardware browser myself, I downloaded and installed lshw-gui. A little confusing at first, the display needs to be better configured. Are you clicking on each of the components to get the details ? (i.e. It's parts tree is horizontal rather than vertical) No, in fact I hadn't. I certainly wondered why the display was so sparse, but a horizontal tree is new to me (at least if it's an electronic tree). So I tried lshw, lshw-gui, and lshw-gui &; but no combination of left clicks, right clicks, and hitting enter with either of the latter two got me any more than a tiny yellow box saying "This pane displays " (I have all machines set to single-click, in case that matters.) And I get that much (more than I had before) just by hovering the cursor. Mine is set to single-click as well but, in this gui, I had to double-click the *bold* entries to get down into the meat of the information. Pretty cool tool. K -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:33:01 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:27 +, Beartooth wrote: [...] >> So will either an upgrade with my original F9 DVD, or "yum >> upgrade" handle that? Or will I have to re-install the rpmfind >> download? >> And how do I use it? Just log out and in? Run the livna >> configurator again? Some other configurator? > > * Fedora : > * Fedora Core 2 up to Fedora Core 6 : > http://washington.kelkoo.net/epia > * Fedora 7 and newer : just run 'yum install > xorg-x11-drv-openchrome'. > * Fedora 9 and newer : openchrome is the default driver for VIA > IGPs. Well, I started with a small goof, misremembering for a moment which OS is on which machine. I don't *think* that made trouble -- I installed from rpmfind, and yum install just says xorg-x11-drv-openchrome is already there. Anyway on PC #1 (F8) I ran the Display applet; it let me change the hardware seting (to generic LCD 1680x1050; my HP w2207h is not listed under HP yet), but not the display setting. I logged out and back in. The display is distinctly better -- but clicking the applet launcher does nothing. Large UH-OH. So I tried the CLI, and got this (with no display) : = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# system-config-display & [1] 28747 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 381, in dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state, xconfig, rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo()) File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py", line 533, in __init__ self.state.recalc_mode() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/rhpxl/xhwstate.py", line 387, in recalc_mode self.colordepth = availableDepth[-1] IndexError: list index out of range [1]+ Donesystem-config-display = = = That "out of range" warning is deadly. I tried another twist : = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display [] Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" ModelName"LCD Panel 1280x1024" HorizSync31.5 - 64.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 65.0 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "vesa" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ = = = I'd be pretty sure rebooting, or even logging out and in, would render the machine useless -- but how can xorg.conf be still set to 1280x1024?? And how can I rescue this install?? Here I thought I was cruisin' to a smooth upgrade -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:10:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: > Beartooth wrote: [] > Mine is set to single-click as well but, in this gui, I had to > double-click the *bold* entries to get down into the meat of the > information. [...] Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can highlight them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't help, either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the word "scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged. -- Beartooth Implacable, Double Retiree On Line CONFIGURE YOUR E-MAIL TO SEND TEXT ONLY, see http://expita.com/nomime.html http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html http://www.birdhouse.org/etc/evilmail.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:10:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: Beartooth wrote: [] Mine is set to single-click as well but, in this gui, I had to double-click the *bold* entries to get down into the meat of the information. [...] Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can highlight them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't help, either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the word "scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged. Are you running the lshw-gui as root? Kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 19:27 +, Beartooth wrote: look under /var/log/Xorg.0.log it will give you a lot of info about your monitor and card. If your unsure what to look for. Start a new tread with maybe subject: help with setting up graphics/ Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:41:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: > Beartooth wrote: [...] >> Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can highlight >> them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't >> help, either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the >> word "scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged. > Are you running the lshw-gui as root? Yes. Shouldn't I be? When I try it as user, it starts off with the little pop-up that so many things use, asking for root's password. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:41:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: Beartooth wrote: [...] Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can highlight them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't help, either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the word "scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged. Are you running the lshw-gui as root? Yes. Shouldn't I be? When I try it as user, it starts off with the little pop-up that so many things use, asking for root's password. No, I would expect that you would /have/ to run it as root in order to collect all the information. When you start it up for the first time does it show scanning in the upper right pane and show what's being scanned in the message bar lower-left? Then does it show computer in the left hand pane when it's done? K -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
Hi Beartooth; On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 20:48 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:41:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: > > > Beartooth wrote: > [...] > >>Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can highlight > >> them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't > >> help, either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the > >> word "scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged. > > > Are you running the lshw-gui as root? > > Yes. Shouldn't I be? When I try it as user, it starts off with > the little pop-up that so many things use, asking for root's password. > Yes, that is what is supposed to happen. You should see a small window (less than 1/4 of your screen) pop up. On my system it has four columns; the left column says "Desktop Computer"; the next two columns are empty; the fourth (right-most) column has very basic data about the Desktop computer. If I double click on the left-hand "Desktop computer" in column two I "Motherboard" and "Ethernet interface" are added. Double clicking on "Ethernet interface" gives me the data about the Ethernet interface in the right-most column. Double clicking on the "Motherboard" adds a whole list of motherboard components to the third column. Single clicking moves columns leftward, double clicking adds info to the fourth column. And so it goes ... If it's working, play with it to see all the possible data presentations. If it is not working as outlined above -- you've got a bug or some very very weird equipment. (That doesn't seem likely from what you have described). The gui could use some basic column titles and the ability to widen or narrow the columns. Practice using the little right pointing wedges to get additional info and using the up bottom on the tool bar to undue. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware browser??
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:19:34 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi Beartooth; Hi, Bill! > You should see a small window (less than 1/4 of your screen) pop up. On > my system it has four columns; the left column says "Desktop Computer"; > the next two columns are empty; the fourth (right-most) column has very > basic data about the Desktop computer. Yes, I do. > If I double click on the left-hand "Desktop computer" in column two I > "Motherboard" and "Ethernet interface" are added. Double clicking on > "Ethernet interface" gives me the data about the Ethernet interface in > the right-most column. *That's* where the dog is buried! Yes, I just discovered this morning that it's not enough to click on the bolded stuff. You have to start all the way to the upper left, and open layers (or branches, or whatever they're called) from there. I had been trying to start, as seemed natural to me, in the rightmost column; and all it ever did there was re-scan. > Double clicking on the "Motherboard" adds a whole list of motherboard > components to the third column. Single clicking moves columns leftward, > double clicking adds info to the fourth column. And so it goes ... Yes. Now I just have to figure out what people who speak hardware call a video card, and flounder around till I stumble on it, or so I presume. > If it's working, play with it to see all the possible data > presentations. If it is not working as outlined above -- you've got a > bug or some very very weird equipment. (That doesn't seem likely from > what you have described). What you don't know can hurt you; but what really makes trouble is what you think you know (like where to click) that ain't so. > The gui could use some basic column titles and the ability to widen or > narrow the columns. Practice using the little right pointing wedges to > get additional info and using the up bottom on the tool bar to undue. It sure could. But I think I can get what I need now, eventually. Many thanks for the clue! -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
