Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-07 Thread Fred Silsbee



--- On Tue, 10/7/08, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:44 AM
> On Monday 06 October 2008, Phil Savoie wrote:
> >Thomas Cameron wrote:
> >> Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> Greetings;
> >>>
> >>> In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line
> as in the subject, but I
> >>> note that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4
> address in the 192.168
> >>> block, there is about a 5 second pause doing
> it, and ifconfig does
> >>> report what looks like valid ipv6 addresses
> for both eth0 and lo.
> >>>
> >>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr
> 00:1F:C6:62:FC:BB
> >>>   inet addr:192.168.71.3 
> Bcast:192.168.71.255
> >>> Mask:255.255.255.0
> >>>   inet6 addr:
> fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 Scope:Link
> >>>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST 
> MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >>>   RX packets:52899 errors:0 dropped:0
> overruns:0 frame:0
> >>>   TX packets:45100 errors:0 dropped:0
> overruns:0 carrier:0
> >>>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> >>>   RX bytes:34184438 (32.6 MiB)  TX
> bytes:26737247 (25.4 MiB)
> >>>   Interrupt:22 Base address:0xa000
> >>>
> >>> loLink encap:Local Loopback
> >>>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >>>   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> >>>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436 
> Metric:1
> >>>   RX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0
> overruns:0 frame:0
> >>>   TX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0
> overruns:0 carrier:0
> >>>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> >>>   RX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)  TX
> bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How does one go about disabling that?
> >>
> >> What happens if you add:
> >>
> >> install ipv6 /bin/true
> >>
> >> to /etc/modprobe.conf?  Forgive me if that
> doesn't work, I don't have a
> >> Fedora box to play with at the moment, only RHEL
> 5.
> >>
> >> TC
> >
> >I think a reboot may be necessary for this change to
> work.
> >
> >Phil
> 
> Expected.  And I also expect that the proper newer syntax
> in the ifcfg-eth0 
> file would also fix it, and require only a "service
> network restart" to 
> adjust the setting.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of
> liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
> order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes.  I get stranger
> things than you free
> with my breakfast cereal.
>   -- Zaphod Beeblebrox
> 
WHY make a career of it! I solved the same problem with:


http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-fedora-linux-why/





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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 October 2008, Phil Savoie wrote:
>Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Greetings;
>>>
>>> In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I
>>> note that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168
>>> block, there is about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does
>>> report what looks like valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo.
>>>
>>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:C6:62:FC:BB
>>>   inet addr:192.168.71.3  Bcast:192.168.71.255
>>> Mask:255.255.255.0
>>>   inet6 addr: fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 Scope:Link
>>>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>>>   RX packets:52899 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>>   TX packets:45100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>>>   RX bytes:34184438 (32.6 MiB)  TX bytes:26737247 (25.4 MiB)
>>>   Interrupt:22 Base address:0xa000
>>>
>>> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>>>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>>>   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>>>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>>>   RX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>>   TX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>>>   RX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)  TX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)
>>>
>>>
>>> How does one go about disabling that?
>>
>> What happens if you add:
>>
>> install ipv6 /bin/true
>>
>> to /etc/modprobe.conf?  Forgive me if that doesn't work, I don't have a
>> Fedora box to play with at the moment, only RHEL 5.
>>
>> TC
>
>I think a reboot may be necessary for this change to work.
>
>Phil

Expected.  And I also expect that the proper newer syntax in the ifcfg-eth0 
file would also fix it, and require only a "service network restart" to 
adjust the setting.

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 October 2008, Craig White wrote:
>On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 20:35 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > Greetings;
>> >
>> > In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I
>> > note that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168
>> > block, there is about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does
>> > report what looks like valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo.
>> >
>> >
>> > How does one go about disabling that?
>>
>> What happens if you add:
>>
>> install ipv6 /bin/true

This worked, and eth0 comes up in half the former time.  Thanks.

>> to /etc/modprobe.conf?  Forgive me if that doesn't work, I don't have a
>> Fedora box to play with at the moment, only RHEL 5.
>
>
>I've read that works
>
>other methods that should work...
>
>adding
>NETWORKING_IPV6=no
>to /etc/sysconfig/network and reboot

Humm, that is a syntax change, I have had a simple
IPV6INIT=no in there for some years.  It only stopped working to disable ipv6 
when I changed motherboards, trading the 2.1Ghz xp-2800 for a 4 core 2.2Ghz 
phenom.

I've adjusted that also, thanks.

>or
>
>adding
>alias net-pf-10 off
>alias ipv6 off
>
>to /etc/modprobe.conf should also work
>
>Craig



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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 October 2008, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings;
>>
>> In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I note
>> that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168 block, there
>> is about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does report what looks
>> like valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo.
>>
>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:C6:62:FC:BB
>>   inet addr:192.168.71.3  Bcast:192.168.71.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>>   inet6 addr: fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 Scope:Link
>>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>>   RX packets:52899 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>   TX packets:45100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>>   RX bytes:34184438 (32.6 MiB)  TX bytes:26737247 (25.4 MiB)
>>   Interrupt:22 Base address:0xa000
>>
>> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>>   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>>   RX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>   TX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>>   RX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)  TX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)
>>
>>
>> How does one go about disabling that?
>
>What happens if you add:
>
>install ipv6 /bin/true
>
>to /etc/modprobe.conf?  Forgive me if that doesn't work, I don't have a
>Fedora box to play with at the moment, only RHEL 5.
>
>TC

Thanks.  I put that in, and re-assigned the index numbers to re-order the hd 
stuff too.

Rebooted, the ipv6 is gone and bringing up eth0 is faster, but the drives are 
still out of order.  Labels make it work anyway, so I suppose its a shrug.

Thank you.

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-06 Thread Phil Savoie


Thomas Cameron wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings;
>>
>> In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I
>> note that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168
>> block, there is about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does
>> report what looks like valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo.
>>
>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:C6:62:FC:BB
>>   inet addr:192.168.71.3  Bcast:192.168.71.255 
>> Mask:255.255.255.0
>>   inet6 addr: fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 Scope:Link
>>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>>   RX packets:52899 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>   TX packets:45100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>>   RX bytes:34184438 (32.6 MiB)  TX bytes:26737247 (25.4 MiB)
>>   Interrupt:22 Base address:0xa000
>>
>> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>>   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>>   RX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>   TX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>>   RX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)  TX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)
>>
>>
>> How does one go about disabling that?
>>
> 
> What happens if you add:
> 
> install ipv6 /bin/true
> 
> to /etc/modprobe.conf?  Forgive me if that doesn't work, I don't have a
> Fedora box to play with at the moment, only RHEL 5.
> 
> TC
> 

I think a reboot may be necessary for this change to work.

Phil

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-06 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 20:35 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings;
> > 
> > In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I note 
> > that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168 block, there 
> > is 
> > about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does report what looks like 
> > valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo.
> > 
> > 
> > How does one go about disabling that?
> > 
> 
> What happens if you add:
> 
> install ipv6 /bin/true
> 
> to /etc/modprobe.conf?  Forgive me if that doesn't work, I don't have a 
> Fedora box to play with at the moment, only RHEL 5.

I've read that works

other methods that should work...

adding
NETWORKING_IPV6=no
to /etc/sysconfig/network and reboot

or

adding
alias net-pf-10 off
alias ipv6 off

to /etc/modprobe.conf should also work

Craig

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-06 Thread Thomas Cameron

Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings;

In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I note 
that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168 block, there is 
about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does report what looks like 
valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo.


eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:C6:62:FC:BB
  inet addr:192.168.71.3  Bcast:192.168.71.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:52899 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:45100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:34184438 (32.6 MiB)  TX bytes:26737247 (25.4 MiB)
  Interrupt:22 Base address:0xa000

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)  TX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)


How does one go about disabling that?



What happens if you add:

install ipv6 /bin/true

to /etc/modprobe.conf?  Forgive me if that doesn't work, I don't have a 
Fedora box to play with at the moment, only RHEL 5.


TC



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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 October 2008, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Because here, everything is on a 192.168.x.x address, fixed using host
>> files for dns resolution.
>
>I've got both local IPv4 addresses and IPv6 addresses in my /etc/hosts
>file.  Works just fine.  As for added complexity, it isn't really any
>more complex than adding a few config lines.  The rest is automatic.
>In a lot of ways it is much simpler than IPv4 because folks learned
>from their IPv4 mistakes and realized how important it was for IPv6 to
>automatically configure itself.
>
>> Anything that doesn't resolve locally gets sent to 192.168.X.1,
>> which is a dd-wrt install which handles all the PPPoE stuffs to
>> connect me to my adsl account.  A max of 4 live machines here
>> certainly doesn't need the complexity of ipv6.
>>
>> That is all I get from vz, and I have doubts they have anything setup that
>> would forward an ipv6 query to my ipv4 address their quasi-dhcp issues.
>
>I run openwrt here, but assume dd-wrt is similar.  I bet it possible
>to have dd-wrt router automatically forward all ipv6 addresses to the
>global tun6to4 gateways.  One wouldn't even need to have one's linux
>box (or boxes) establish a tunnel.  That way everything on your
>ethernet gets a working IPv6 address.  I believe this is also what
>Apple's WIFI hocky-puck ("airport") routers do.
>
dd-wrt has an enable-disable for ipv6, but nothing else of note.

>-wolfgang
>--
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> You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-05 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Because here, everything is on a 192.168.x.x address, fixed using host files 
> for dns resolution.  

I've got both local IPv4 addresses and IPv6 addresses in my /etc/hosts
file.  Works just fine.  As for added complexity, it isn't really any
more complex than adding a few config lines.  The rest is automatic.
In a lot of ways it is much simpler than IPv4 because folks learned
from their IPv4 mistakes and realized how important it was for IPv6 to
automatically configure itself.

> Anything that doesn't resolve locally gets sent to 192.168.X.1,
> which is a dd-wrt install which handles all the PPPoE stuffs to
> connect me to my adsl account.  A max of 4 live machines here
> certainly doesn't need the complexity of ipv6.
>
> That is all I get from vz, and I have doubts they have anything setup that 
> would forward an ipv6 query to my ipv4 address their quasi-dhcp issues.

I run openwrt here, but assume dd-wrt is similar.  I bet it possible
to have dd-wrt router automatically forward all ipv6 addresses to the
global tun6to4 gateways.  One wouldn't even need to have one's linux
box (or boxes) establish a tunnel.  That way everything on your
ethernet gets a working IPv6 address.  I believe this is also what
Apple's WIFI hocky-puck ("airport") routers do.

-wolfgang
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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> How does one go about disabling that?
>
>Why, pray tell?
>
Because here, everything is on a 192.168.x.x address, fixed using host files 
for dns resolution.  Anything that doesn't resolve locally gets sent to 
192.168.X.1, which is a dd-wrt install which handles all the PPPoE stuffs to 
connect me to my adsl account.  A max of 4 live machines here certainly 
doesn't need the complexity of ipv6.

>IPv6 is just about the only way one can reach one's internal machines
>from the outside world when has a cheap ISP that hands out a single
>IPv4 address.

That is all I get from vz, and I have doubts they have anything setup that 
would forward an ipv6 query to my ipv4 address their quasi-dhcp issues.

>The 6to4 tunnel makes it trivial to set up IPv6. 
>(I run a static tunnel, but from my notes, I believe this is what I
>had to do to get the simple 6to4 tunnel working.)
>
>echo "IPV6_DEFAULTDEV=tun6to4">> /etc/sysconfig/network
>echo "NETWORKING_IPV6=yes">> /etc/sysconfig/network
>echo "IPV6INIT=yes">> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
>echo "IPV6TO4INIT=yes" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
>
>-wolfgang
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> You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How does one go about disabling that?

Why, pray tell?

IPv6 is just about the only way one can reach one's internal machines
from the outside world when has a cheap ISP that hands out a single
IPv4 address.  The 6to4 tunnel makes it trivial to set up IPv6.
(I run a static tunnel, but from my notes, I believe this is what I
had to do to get the simple 6to4 tunnel working.)

echo "IPV6_DEFAULTDEV=tun6to4">> /etc/sysconfig/network
echo "NETWORKING_IPV6=yes">> /etc/sysconfig/network
echo "IPV6INIT=yes">> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "IPV6TO4INIT=yes" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello,
>
>After FC8, there is a system tool of "udev", it will help you to handle
>the adapter config for the system...
>
>Edward.

Ahh, that is better.  All I have to do is wrap my aged (it is 74 today) wet 
ram around a new tool when I get to that point. :-)

Thanks Edward.

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Robert Locke

On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 23:26 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> After FC8 System, there is no /etc/modprobe.conf ( default hand by
> system ), the user may use the GUI ( NOT text mode ) tool or modify
> ifcfg-eth* file for it...
> 
> Edward.
> 

Edward,

You may want to actually "try" the advice before summarily dismissing
it.

True, that in F9 there is no "default" /etc/modprobe.conf, but if you
simply place the following two lines in that newly created file, it will
prevent the ipv6 kernel module from loading:

alias ipv6 off
alias net-pf-10 off

Again, I am not sure about the current need for the second line.  I have
not tried it, but placing the module names in
the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file may also achieve the same results.

Understand that the entry in the ifcfg-* files which you are so fond of
only prevents the use of the "other" forms of autoconfiguration like
dhcpv6 and router advertisements.  You will still get a "Link-Local"
address that while not routable will still leave you exposed to
connections from other IPv6 machines on the local LAN, which is part of
the "discussion" currently going on fedora-devel about the need for
ip6tables to be started automatically on a default install.  You must
prevent the kernel module from loading into memory if you want to stop
the creation of Link-Local addresses.

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Hello,

After FC8, there is a system tool of "udev", it will help you to handle
the adapter config for the system...

Edward.

Gene Heskett wrote:

>On Saturday 04 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>After FC8 System, there is no /etc/modprobe.conf ( default hand by
>>system ), the user may use the GUI ( NOT text mode ) tool or modify
>>ifcfg-eth* file for it...
>>
>>
>
>What the   Says he incredulously.  Howinhell am I supposed to be able to 
>use 2 sound cards, in the reverse order from discovery?
>
>I normally assign the mobo audio to private use, like skype, and have an 
>Audigy2 Value (SB0400) card that does all the main audio here.  To do that, 
>here is my F8 modprobe.conf:
>
>alias scsi_hostadapter libata
>alias scsi_hostadapter1 sata_sil
>alias scsi_hostadapter2 pata_amd
>
>Humm, I could reverse that and put my drives back in the same order as they 
>were before... But that wouldn't fix grub. :(  LABEL's make it work anyway.
>
>The audio stuff:
>
>alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
>alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel
>options snd-hda-intel index=1
>options snd-emu10k1 index=0
>options snd-intel8x0 index=2
>options snd-mpu401 index=3
>
>alias eth0 forcedeth
>
>How am I to effect this same setup for F10 when it is out?  That would be a 
>total show stopper for me if I cannot.
>
>  
>
>>Edward.
>>
>>Ian Pilcher wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>  
>>>
How does one go about disabling that?


>>>It's not easy.  The Linux kernel automatically assigns a link-local IPv6
>>>address to any interface that's brought up.  If you don't want to use
>>>IPv6 at all, you can use /etc/modprobe.conf to prevent the appropriate
>>>module from being loaded.  (ISTR that it used to be called net-pf-10,
>>>but that module doesn't seem to exist anymore; I'd try disabling the
>>>ipv6 module.)
>>>
>>>To get rid of the IPv6 address on a particular interface, you should be
>>>able to use some variation of 'ip addr ...'.
>>>
>>>The only way I know of to prevent the kernel from assigning an address
>>>when an interface is brought up is to set the MTU to a ridiculously low
>>>value before bringing the interface up.  If the MTU is too low for IPv6
>>>to work, the kernel won't assign the address.  Once the interface is up,
>>>you can set the MTU back to what you want and assign an IPv4 address (if
>>>desired).  Needless to say, this is an ugly hack, and it's not supported
>>>by the networking scripts.
>>>
>>>HTH
>>>  
>>>
>
>
>
>  
>
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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello,
>
>After FC8 System, there is no /etc/modprobe.conf ( default hand by
>system ), the user may use the GUI ( NOT text mode ) tool or modify
>ifcfg-eth* file for it...

What the   Says he incredulously.  Howinhell am I supposed to be able to 
use 2 sound cards, in the reverse order from discovery?

I normally assign the mobo audio to private use, like skype, and have an 
Audigy2 Value (SB0400) card that does all the main audio here.  To do that, 
here is my F8 modprobe.conf:

alias scsi_hostadapter libata
alias scsi_hostadapter1 sata_sil
alias scsi_hostadapter2 pata_amd

Humm, I could reverse that and put my drives back in the same order as they 
were before... But that wouldn't fix grub. :(  LABEL's make it work anyway.

The audio stuff:

alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel index=1
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
options snd-intel8x0 index=2
options snd-mpu401 index=3

alias eth0 forcedeth

How am I to effect this same setup for F10 when it is out?  That would be a 
total show stopper for me if I cannot.

>Edward.
>
>Ian Pilcher wrote:
>>Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>How does one go about disabling that?
>>
>>It's not easy.  The Linux kernel automatically assigns a link-local IPv6
>>address to any interface that's brought up.  If you don't want to use
>>IPv6 at all, you can use /etc/modprobe.conf to prevent the appropriate
>>module from being loaded.  (ISTR that it used to be called net-pf-10,
>>but that module doesn't seem to exist anymore; I'd try disabling the
>>ipv6 module.)
>>
>>To get rid of the IPv6 address on a particular interface, you should be
>>able to use some variation of 'ip addr ...'.
>>
>>The only way I know of to prevent the kernel from assigning an address
>>when an interface is brought up is to set the MTU to a ridiculously low
>>value before bringing the interface up.  If the MTU is too low for IPv6
>>to work, the kernel won't assign the address.  Once the interface is up,
>>you can set the MTU back to what you want and assign an IPv4 address (if
>>desired).  Needless to say, this is an ugly hack, and it's not supported
>>by the networking scripts.
>>
>>HTH



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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> How does one go about disabling that?
>
>It's not easy.  The Linux kernel automatically assigns a link-local IPv6
>address to any interface that's brought up.  If you don't want to use
>IPv6 at all, you can use /etc/modprobe.conf to prevent the appropriate
>module from being loaded.  (ISTR that it used to be called net-pf-10,
>but that module doesn't seem to exist anymore; I'd try disabling the
>ipv6 module.)
>
>To get rid of the IPv6 address on a particular interface, you should be
>able to use some variation of 'ip addr ...'.
>
>The only way I know of to prevent the kernel from assigning an address
>when an interface is brought up is to set the MTU to a ridiculously low
>value before bringing the interface up.  If the MTU is too low for IPv6
>to work, the kernel won't assign the address.  Once the interface is up,
>you can set the MTU back to what you want and assign an IPv4 address (if
>desired).  Needless to say, this is an ugly hack, and it's not supported
>by the networking scripts.
>
>HTH

No, it doesn't help, but it does explain it somewhat.  In the end, I guess I'm 
stuck with it.  But I did not have this problem on the previous motherboard, 
so while the reasoning is good, it seemed to me to have been a software 
problem.  Both boards are running a 32 bit 2.6.27-rc8 kernel.  One thing I 
did find yesterday was that my port forwarded web page access was dead, and 
in running that down I noted I was on eth1 with the new mobo.

It seems something in the network scripts 

edited /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1

to enable it and set it for DHCP.  I use fixed addressing here at the old 
farts ranchette, and that address diff meant the Port Forwarding I do in 
dd-wrt was wrong.  So I killed the onboot=yes in eth1, and reset the mac 
address in ifcfg-eth0 to correspond to the new hardware, did a network 
restart and that's back to normal, but still with the 5 second lag at 
bringing it up.

Why does the line IPV6INIT=no in ifcfg-eth0 not work?

This strikes me as a bugzilla item.  Or a just ignore it. :)

Now, if I could figure out why grub takes an extra 30 seconds to load and run 
at bootup.

Thanks Ian.

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On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say...  oh, somewhere in there.

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Hello,

After FC8 System, there is no /etc/modprobe.conf ( default hand by
system ), the user may use the GUI ( NOT text mode ) tool or modify
ifcfg-eth* file for it...

Edward.

Ian Pilcher wrote:

>Gene Heskett wrote:
>  
>
>>How does one go about disabling that?
>>
>>
>
>It's not easy.  The Linux kernel automatically assigns a link-local IPv6
>address to any interface that's brought up.  If you don't want to use
>IPv6 at all, you can use /etc/modprobe.conf to prevent the appropriate
>module from being loaded.  (ISTR that it used to be called net-pf-10,
>but that module doesn't seem to exist anymore; I'd try disabling the
>ipv6 module.)
>
>To get rid of the IPv6 address on a particular interface, you should be
>able to use some variation of 'ip addr ...'.
>
>The only way I know of to prevent the kernel from assigning an address
>when an interface is brought up is to set the MTU to a ridiculously low
>value before bringing the interface up.  If the MTU is too low for IPv6
>to work, the kernel won't assign the address.  Once the interface is up,
>you can set the MTU back to what you want and assign an IPv4 address (if
>desired).  Needless to say, this is an ugly hack, and it's not supported
>by the networking scripts.
>
>HTH
>
>  
>
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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Ian Pilcher
Gene Heskett wrote:
> How does one go about disabling that?

It's not easy.  The Linux kernel automatically assigns a link-local IPv6
address to any interface that's brought up.  If you don't want to use
IPv6 at all, you can use /etc/modprobe.conf to prevent the appropriate
module from being loaded.  (ISTR that it used to be called net-pf-10,
but that module doesn't seem to exist anymore; I'd try disabling the
ipv6 module.)

To get rid of the IPv6 address on a particular interface, you should be
able to use some variation of 'ip addr ...'.

The only way I know of to prevent the kernel from assigning an address
when an interface is brought up is to set the MTU to a ridiculously low
value before bringing the interface up.  If the MTU is too low for IPv6
to work, the kernel won't assign the address.  Once the interface is up,
you can set the MTU back to what you want and assign an IPv4 address (if
desired).  Needless to say, this is an ugly hack, and it's not supported
by the networking scripts.

HTH

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Robert Locke
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 02:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 04 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >You are using IPv4 ( If IPv6 disabled )...
> >
> >Edward.
> >
> Agreed Edward, but when it doesn't show the ipv6 addresses at all, the 
> interface is brought up in milliseconds, as opposed to the 5 second lag it 
> has now.  That is the lag I would like to remove.
> 
> Thank you.
> 

Gene and Edward,

All IPV6INIT does in the ifcfg-* file is prevent the network script from
using IPv6.  Fortunately/unfortunately, you are, in fact, still loading
the kernel module, ipv6.ko.  If that module is loaded, you will get a
locally scoped IPv6 address which is seen in the output that Gene
supplied.

> >Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>Greetings;
> >>
> >>In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I note
> >>that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168 block, there
> >> is about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does report what looks
> >> like valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo.
> >>
> >>eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:C6:62:FC:BB
> >>  inet addr:192.168.71.3  Bcast:192.168.71.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
> >>  inet6 addr: fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 Scope:Link
> >>  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >>  RX packets:52899 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >>  TX packets:45100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> >>  RX bytes:34184438 (32.6 MiB)  TX bytes:26737247 (25.4 MiB)
> >>  Interrupt:22 Base address:0xa000
> >>
> >>loLink encap:Local Loopback
> >>  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >>  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> >>  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
> >>  RX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >>  TX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> >>  RX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)  TX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)
> >>
> >>
> >>How does one go about disabling that?
> 

To entirely stop any form of IPv6 addressing from appearing, you need to
block the module.  Traditionally that is done in /etc/modprobe.conf by
placing a line or lines of the form:

alias ipv6 off
alias net_pf_10 off

The second line may or may not be needed anymore.  I do not know if IPv6
is the "true cause" of your 5-second delay, but the line(s) in
modprobe.conf are a more complete way to stop IPv6 addressing from
appearing.

HTH,

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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello,
>
>You are using IPv4 ( If IPv6 disabled )...
>
>Edward.
>
Agreed Edward, but when it doesn't show the ipv6 addresses at all, the 
interface is brought up in milliseconds, as opposed to the 5 second lag it 
has now.  That is the lag I would like to remove.

Thank you.

>Gene Heskett wrote:
>>Greetings;
>>
>>In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I note
>>that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168 block, there
>> is about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does report what looks
>> like valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo.
>>
>>eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:C6:62:FC:BB
>>  inet addr:192.168.71.3  Bcast:192.168.71.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>>  inet6 addr: fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 Scope:Link
>>  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>>  RX packets:52899 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>  TX packets:45100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>>  RX bytes:34184438 (32.6 MiB)  TX bytes:26737247 (25.4 MiB)
>>  Interrupt:22 Base address:0xa000
>>
>>loLink encap:Local Loopback
>>  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>>  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>>  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>>  RX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>  TX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>>  RX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)  TX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)
>>
>>
>>How does one go about disabling that?



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Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-03 Thread edwardspl
Hello,

You are using IPv4 ( If IPv6 disabled )...

Edward.

Gene Heskett wrote:

>Greetings;
>
>In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I note 
>that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168 block, there is 
>about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does report what looks like 
>valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo.
>
>eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:C6:62:FC:BB
>  inet addr:192.168.71.3  Bcast:192.168.71.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>  inet6 addr: fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 Scope:Link
>  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>  RX packets:52899 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  TX packets:45100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>  RX bytes:34184438 (32.6 MiB)  TX bytes:26737247 (25.4 MiB)
>  Interrupt:22 Base address:0xa000
>
>loLink encap:Local Loopback
>  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>  RX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  TX packets:6888 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>  RX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)  TX bytes:16987249 (16.2 MiB)
>
>
>How does one go about disabling that?
>
>  
>

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