Re: Real Audio on F12 (SOLVED)

2009-12-15 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 14:11 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I tried it and it seems to be pretty much what I want:
>  
> mplayer -dumpfile MyStream.out -dumpstream -playlist 
>  
> and a subsequent call to mplayer will then play the stream.

One trick you can do that is to let you work on a stream that normally
won't let you do anything other than play it live.  i.e. Start dumping
it, then after half a minute, start playing the dumped stream with
another mplayer instance.  It's more flexible than increasing the cache
of one mplayer instance (to play it live), as you can do things like
pause and restart the player (pausing a live stream may cause a timeout
and an abort, which is damn annoying with long programmes).

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Re: Real Audio on F12 (SOLVED)

2009-12-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 14:53 +1030, Tim wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan:
> >> Following on from that, do you know of a way to capture the stream using
> >> mplayer (or anything else for that matter)? RFM I guess, but the FM is
> >> rather long and complex :-)
> 
> Marko Vojinovic:
> > mplayer -ao pcm:fast,file=givemeaname.wav -playlist 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> > 
> > Note that this should be one line, it might get word-wrapped.
> 
> That will transcode the stream to your requested format, rather than
> capture the stream.  But it's probably more what people want to do.
> 
> One advantage with capturing the raw stream is that you *may* get it
> with some descriptive meta information in the stream (titles that give
> you a who, where, what, etc.).  Though some streams are just as
> anonymous as wav files.

That's good. I tried it and it seems to be pretty much what I want:

mplayer -dumpfile MyStream.out -dumpstream -playlist 

and a subsequent call to mplayer will then play the stream.

Thanks to all who offered advice.

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Tim
Patrick O'Callaghan:
>> Following on from that, do you know of a way to capture the stream using
>> mplayer (or anything else for that matter)? RFM I guess, but the FM is
>> rather long and complex :-)

Marko Vojinovic:
> mplayer -ao pcm:fast,file=givemeaname.wav -playlist 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> 
> Note that this should be one line, it might get word-wrapped.

That will transcode the stream to your requested format, rather than
capture the stream.  But it's probably more what people want to do.

One advantage with capturing the raw stream is that you *may* get it
with some descriptive meta information in the stream (titles that give
you a who, where, what, etc.).  Though some streams are just as
anonymous as wav files.

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 16:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Following on from that, do you know of a way to capture the stream
> using mplayer (or anything else for that matter)? RFM I guess, but the
> FM is rather long and complex :-)

Add -dumpstream to the command line, and it'll get dumped to a default
filename.  Or you can use another command option to name the dumpfile
yourself.  It's time to RTFM.  ;-)


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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 December 2009 19:46:29 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 17:41 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Monday 14 December 2009 16:59:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > Following on from that, do you know of a way to capture the stream
> > > using mplayer (or anything else for that matter)? RFM I guess, but the
> > > FM is rather long and complex :-)
> >
> > mplayer -ao pcm:fast,file=givemeaname.wav -playlist
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> >
> > Note that this should be one line, it might get word-wrapped.
> 
> It says to use "-vc null -vo null" for better performance when dumping.

This makes sense if the stream has both audio and video, and you wish to 
capture only the audio part. Then you instruct mplayer to push all video 
output to /dev/null instead to the display, and this increases overall 
performance because there is no video overhead.

However, this particular stream is audio only, so the -vc and -vo options have 
no effect anyway.

Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 17:41 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 14 December 2009 16:59:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Following on from that, do you know of a way to capture the stream using
> > mplayer (or anything else for that matter)? RFM I guess, but the FM is
> > rather long and complex :-)
> 
> mplayer -ao pcm:fast,file=givemeaname.wav -playlist  
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> 
> Note that this should be one line, it might get word-wrapped.

It says to use "-vc null -vo null" for better performance when dumping.

> You might want to read up on pcm driver in the description of the -ao option 
> (audio output driver to use) of man mplayer.

Thanks again.

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 17:48 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 14 December 2009 17:41:03 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Monday 14 December 2009 16:59:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > Following on from that, do you know of a way to capture the stream using
> > > mplayer (or anything else for that matter)? RFM I guess, but the FM is
> > > rather long and complex :-)
> > 
> > mplayer -ao pcm:fast,file=givemeaname.wav -playlist
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> 
> Ok, the "fast" flag is useless in this case, since the server would not let 
> you 
> download faster than realtime stream (I'm downloading it right now). But it 
> works anyway.

But you can (presumably) download multiple streams in parallel :-)

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 December 2009 17:41:03 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 14 December 2009 16:59:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Following on from that, do you know of a way to capture the stream using
> > mplayer (or anything else for that matter)? RFM I guess, but the FM is
> > rather long and complex :-)
> 
> mplayer -ao pcm:fast,file=givemeaname.wav -playlist
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram

Ok, the "fast" flag is useless in this case, since the server would not let you 
download faster than realtime stream (I'm downloading it right now). But it 
works anyway.

Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 December 2009 16:59:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Following on from that, do you know of a way to capture the stream using
> mplayer (or anything else for that matter)? RFM I guess, but the FM is
> rather long and complex :-)

mplayer -ao pcm:fast,file=givemeaname.wav -playlist  
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram

Note that this should be one line, it might get word-wrapped.

You might want to read up on pcm driver in the description of the -ao option 
(audio output driver to use) of man mplayer.


There is no media that can be played back with software and not be captured 
into a file. ;-)


HTH, :-)
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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 01:36 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 13:47 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > The -playlist option made it work.
> 
> Sometimes needed for .ram files, as they're often a playlist or referrer
> of some time.  Not always needed, as some .ram files are the media,
> itself.  And I've noticed mplayer *sometimes* not care when you you put
> -playlist in where it shouldn't be.

OK. I still think the error message could be a lot better though.

>  > OT: in the interests of having a more user-friendly experience, such
> > as fast-forward etc., I also tried with gmplayer (also with >
>  -playlist). It started playing OK but on hitting the fast-forward >
>  control the UI just froze and had to be "kill -9"'ed. gmplayer seems >
>  to be someone's idea of a joke, which is a pity as mplayer is >
>  otherwise very capable.
> 
> gmplayer never was very good for me.  It liked to crash, a lot.  I found
> smplayer to be much better.  And there's another front end that I can't
> remember the name of.  gmplayer is a recompiled mplayer, that behaves
> differently, as *well* as having a GUI.

I'll take a look at smplayer, thanks.

> Some streams just are not seekable, and you'll find trying to seek being
> ignored, or wedging the player, sometimes quite hard.  For playing back
> an already downloaded stream that won't seek, you can add the -idx
> command option, and mplayer will assess the whole file (taking a bit of
> time), then fake up an index that it can use to seek.

Following on from that, do you know of a way to capture the stream using
mplayer (or anything else for that matter)? RFM I guess, but the FM is
rather long and complex :-)

poc

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 15:09 +0100, Pikachu_2014 wrote:
> 
> 
> 2009/12/14 Patrick O'Callaghan 
> On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 13:31 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Monday 14 December 2009 12:47:27 Patrick O'Callaghan
> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:44 +0100, ELMORABITY Mohamed
> wrote:
> > > > Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 14:33 +, Patrick
> O'Callaghan a
> > > > écrit :
> > > > > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to
> get Real Audio
> > > > > files to play.
> > > >
> > > > did you tried to use a player provided by Fedora or RPM
> Fusion instead?
> > > > You should first try with mplayer for example. Some Real
> streams may
> > > > requires win32/win64 extra codecs, and mplayer will
> signale this in this
> > > > case.
> > >
> > > I tried both vlc and dragon on a test file.
> >
> > Does mplayer play that test file? Are you talking about a
> *file* or a stream
> > from the Internet?
> 
> 
> Both. I tried originally with the downloaded .ram file for
> that same
> audio stream.
> 
> > > Mplayer complains (but not about codecs) and stops:
> > >
> > > $ mplayer
> > >
>  
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> > >  MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> > > mplayer: could not connect to socket
> > > mplayer: No such file or directory
> > > Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use
> your remote
> > >  control.
> >
> > This is just the regular complaint that you don't have
> remote control set up.
> > Ignore it.
> >
> > > Playing
> > >
>  
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram.
> > >  Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...
> > > Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk
> >
> > This is just a complaint that IPv6 doesn't work. Ignore it.
> >
> > > Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...
> > > Connecting to server www.bbc.co.uk[212.58.251.195]: 80...
> >
> > IPv4 does resolve, and mplayer successfully connects. This
> is good.
> >
> > > Cache size set to 320 KBytes
> > > Cache fill:  0.04% (139 bytes)
> > >
> > >
> > > Exiting... (End of file)
> >
> > This is bad. Mplayer received only 139 bytes of the stream.
> Maybe you can try
> > it in a more verbose mode (-v), hopefully it will display
> more info about what
> > is going on.
> 
> 
> The -playlist option made it work.
> 
> OT: in the interests of having a more user-friendly
> experience, such as
> fast-forward etc., I also tried with gmplayer (also with
> -playlist). It
> started playing OK but on hitting the fast-forward control the
> UI just
> froze and had to be "kill -9"'ed. gmplayer seems to be
> someone's idea of
> a joke, which is a pity as mplayer is otherwise very capable.
> 
> poc
> 
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> (vlc for example) or indirectly (xine with xine-lib-extras-freeworld
> or totem with gstreamer-ffmpeg) will be able to read your stream

I just noticed you mentioned vlc. As I said earlier, vlc didn't work in
this case. It played about a minute of the steam and then just stopped.

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 15:09 +0100, Pikachu_2014 wrote:
> 
> 
> 2009/12/14 Patrick O'Callaghan 
> On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 13:31 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Monday 14 December 2009 12:47:27 Patrick O'Callaghan
> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:44 +0100, ELMORABITY Mohamed
> wrote:
> > > > Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 14:33 +, Patrick
> O'Callaghan a
> > > > écrit :
> > > > > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to
> get Real Audio
> > > > > files to play.
> > > >
> > > > did you tried to use a player provided by Fedora or RPM
> Fusion instead?
> > > > You should first try with mplayer for example. Some Real
> streams may
> > > > requires win32/win64 extra codecs, and mplayer will
> signale this in this
> > > > case.
> > >
> > > I tried both vlc and dragon on a test file.
> >
> > Does mplayer play that test file? Are you talking about a
> *file* or a stream
> > from the Internet?
> 
> 
> Both. I tried originally with the downloaded .ram file for
> that same
> audio stream.
> 
> > > Mplayer complains (but not about codecs) and stops:
> > >
> > > $ mplayer
> > >
>  
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> > >  MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> > > mplayer: could not connect to socket
> > > mplayer: No such file or directory
> > > Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use
> your remote
> > >  control.
> >
> > This is just the regular complaint that you don't have
> remote control set up.
> > Ignore it.
> >
> > > Playing
> > >
>  
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram.
> > >  Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...
> > > Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk
> >
> > This is just a complaint that IPv6 doesn't work. Ignore it.
> >
> > > Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...
> > > Connecting to server www.bbc.co.uk[212.58.251.195]: 80...
> >
> > IPv4 does resolve, and mplayer successfully connects. This
> is good.
> >
> > > Cache size set to 320 KBytes
> > > Cache fill:  0.04% (139 bytes)
> > >
> > >
> > > Exiting... (End of file)
> >
> > This is bad. Mplayer received only 139 bytes of the stream.
> Maybe you can try
> > it in a more verbose mode (-v), hopefully it will display
> more info about what
> > is going on.
> 
> 
> The -playlist option made it work.
> 
> OT: in the interests of having a more user-friendly
> experience, such as
> fast-forward etc., I also tried with gmplayer (also with
> -playlist). It
> started playing OK but on hitting the fast-forward control the
> UI just
> froze and had to be "kill -9"'ed. gmplayer seems to be
> someone's idea of
> a joke, which is a pity as mplayer is otherwise very capable.
> 
> poc
> 
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> Anyway, if mplayer can read it, any player based directly on ffmpeg
> (vlc for example) or indirectly (xine with xine-lib-extras-freeworld
> or totem with gstreamer-ffmpeg) will be able to read your stream

Worth knowing, thanks.

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 14:21 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 14 December 2009 13:47:26 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > OT: in the interests of having a more user-friendly experience, such as
> > fast-forward etc., I also tried with gmplayer (also with -playlist). It
> > started playing OK but on hitting the fast-forward control the UI just
> > froze and had to be "kill -9"'ed. gmplayer seems to be someone's idea of
> > a joke, which is a pity as mplayer is otherwise very capable.
> 
> When I first tried using a mplayer GUI (don't remember which one) several 
> years ago, it was so buggy that I decided to give up on it and learn to use 
> mplayer from the terminal. Never looked back. Maybe today GUI's are better, 
> but I still only hear about problems with them.
> 
> Incidentally, I tried to play the link you posted, and it does play (with the 
> -playlist option). The fast-forwarding *should* work in the console as well 
> (using the cursor keys), but in this case it doesn't. I also had to killall 
> mplayer (twice, though it worked without the -9). This may be a bug, but I 
> bet 
> that the codec for .ram just doesn't support seeking or is broken or 
> something. If you have the whole file on the disk, and if seeking works when 
> playing the file, then I guess increasing the cache buffer might help with 
> seeking in streams, but I'm not sure.
> 
> Best, :-)
> Marko
> 
> P.S. Goedel's incompleteness theorem is indeed an interesting topic, I'll 
> probably listen it all later this afternoon. :-)

Agreed. The In Our Time series on BBC radio is one of the best things
out there. They are also available as podcasts, including on iTunes.

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 13:47 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> The -playlist option made it work.

Sometimes needed for .ram files, as they're often a playlist or referrer
of some time.  Not always needed, as some .ram files are the media,
itself.  And I've noticed mplayer *sometimes* not care when you you put
-playlist in where it shouldn't be.


> OT: in the interests of having a more user-friendly experience, such
> as fast-forward etc., I also tried with gmplayer (also with
> -playlist). It started playing OK but on hitting the fast-forward
> control the UI just froze and had to be "kill -9"'ed. gmplayer seems
> to be someone's idea of a joke, which is a pity as mplayer is
> otherwise very capable.

gmplayer never was very good for me.  It liked to crash, a lot.  I found
smplayer to be much better.  And there's another front end that I can't
remember the name of.  gmplayer is a recompiled mplayer, that behaves
differently, as *well* as having a GUI.

Some streams just are not seekable, and you'll find trying to seek being
ignored, or wedging the player, sometimes quite hard.  For playing back
an already downloaded stream that won't seek, you can add the -idx
command option, and mplayer will assess the whole file (taking a bit of
time), then fake up an index that it can use to seek.

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 December 2009 13:47:26 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> OT: in the interests of having a more user-friendly experience, such as
> fast-forward etc., I also tried with gmplayer (also with -playlist). It
> started playing OK but on hitting the fast-forward control the UI just
> froze and had to be "kill -9"'ed. gmplayer seems to be someone's idea of
> a joke, which is a pity as mplayer is otherwise very capable.

When I first tried using a mplayer GUI (don't remember which one) several 
years ago, it was so buggy that I decided to give up on it and learn to use 
mplayer from the terminal. Never looked back. Maybe today GUI's are better, 
but I still only hear about problems with them.

Incidentally, I tried to play the link you posted, and it does play (with the 
-playlist option). The fast-forwarding *should* work in the console as well 
(using the cursor keys), but in this case it doesn't. I also had to killall 
mplayer (twice, though it worked without the -9). This may be a bug, but I bet 
that the codec for .ram just doesn't support seeking or is broken or 
something. If you have the whole file on the disk, and if seeking works when 
playing the file, then I guess increasing the cache buffer might help with 
seeking in streams, but I'm not sure.

Best, :-)
Marko

P.S. Goedel's incompleteness theorem is indeed an interesting topic, I'll 
probably listen it all later this afternoon. :-)

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Mick M.

> > >  
> > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram.

Hi;
  I clicked the above link.
Xine came up and played the audio in Firefox.
There were no controls.

[r...@localhost ~]# rpm -qa xine*
xine-lib-extras-1.1.16.3-4.fc12.x86_64
xine-lib-extras-freeworld-1.1.16.3-2.fc12.x86_64
xine-plugin-1.0.2-3.fc12.x86_64
xine-ui-0.99.5-16.fc12.x86_64
xine-lib-1.1.16.3-4.fc12.x86_64
xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.16.3-4.fc12.x86_64


Mick M.


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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Pikachu_2014
2009/12/14 Patrick O'Callaghan 

> On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 13:31 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Monday 14 December 2009 12:47:27 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:44 +0100, ELMORABITY Mohamed wrote:
> > > > Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 14:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan a
> > > > écrit :
> > > > > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get Real Audio
> > > > > files to play.
> > > >
> > > > did you tried to use a player provided by Fedora or RPM Fusion
> instead?
> > > > You should first try with mplayer for example. Some Real streams may
> > > > requires win32/win64 extra codecs, and mplayer will signale this in
> this
> > > > case.
> > >
> > > I tried both vlc and dragon on a test file.
> >
> > Does mplayer play that test file? Are you talking about a *file* or a
> stream
> > from the Internet?
>
> Both. I tried originally with the downloaded .ram file for that same
> audio stream.
>
> > > Mplayer complains (but not about codecs) and stops:
> > >
> > > $ mplayer
> > >
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> > >  MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> > > mplayer: could not connect to socket
> > > mplayer: No such file or directory
> > > Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
> > >  control.
> >
> > This is just the regular complaint that you don't have remote control set
> up.
> > Ignore it.
> >
> > > Playing
> > >
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram.
> > >  Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...
> > > Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk
> >
> > This is just a complaint that IPv6 doesn't work. Ignore it.
> >
> > > Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...
> > > Connecting to server www.bbc.co.uk[212.58.251.195]: 80...
> >
> > IPv4 does resolve, and mplayer successfully connects. This is good.
> >
> > > Cache size set to 320 KBytes
> > > Cache fill:  0.04% (139 bytes)
> > >
> > >
> > > Exiting... (End of file)
> >
> > This is bad. Mplayer received only 139 bytes of the stream. Maybe you can
> try
> > it in a more verbose mode (-v), hopefully it will display more info about
> what
> > is going on.
>
> The -playlist option made it work.
>
> OT: in the interests of having a more user-friendly experience, such as
> fast-forward etc., I also tried with gmplayer (also with -playlist). It
> started playing OK but on hitting the fast-forward control the UI just
> froze and had to be "kill -9"'ed. gmplayer seems to be someone's idea of
> a joke, which is a pity as mplayer is otherwise very capable.
>
> poc
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Anyway, if mplayer can read it, any player based directly on ffmpeg (vlc for
example) or indirectly (xine with xine-lib-extras-freeworld or totem with
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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 13:31 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 14 December 2009 12:47:27 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:44 +0100, ELMORABITY Mohamed wrote:
> > > Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 14:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan a
> > > écrit :
> > > > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get Real Audio
> > > > files to play.
> > >
> > > did you tried to use a player provided by Fedora or RPM Fusion instead?
> > > You should first try with mplayer for example. Some Real streams may
> > > requires win32/win64 extra codecs, and mplayer will signale this in this
> > > case.
> > 
> > I tried both vlc and dragon on a test file.
> 
> Does mplayer play that test file? Are you talking about a *file* or a stream 
> from the Internet?

Both. I tried originally with the downloaded .ram file for that same
audio stream.

> > Mplayer complains (but not about codecs) and stops:
> > 
> > $ mplayer
> >  http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> >  MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> > mplayer: could not connect to socket
> > mplayer: No such file or directory
> > Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
> >  control.
> 
> This is just the regular complaint that you don't have remote control set up. 
> Ignore it.
>  
> > Playing
> >  http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram.
> >  Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...
> > Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk
> 
> This is just a complaint that IPv6 doesn't work. Ignore it.
> 
> > Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...
> > Connecting to server www.bbc.co.uk[212.58.251.195]: 80...
> 
> IPv4 does resolve, and mplayer successfully connects. This is good.
> 
> > Cache size set to 320 KBytes
> > Cache fill:  0.04% (139 bytes)
> > 
> > 
> > Exiting... (End of file)
> 
> This is bad. Mplayer received only 139 bytes of the stream. Maybe you can try 
> it in a more verbose mode (-v), hopefully it will display more info about 
> what 
> is going on.

The -playlist option made it work.

OT: in the interests of having a more user-friendly experience, such as
fast-forward etc., I also tried with gmplayer (also with -playlist). It
started playing OK but on hitting the fast-forward control the UI just
froze and had to be "kill -9"'ed. gmplayer seems to be someone's idea of
a joke, which is a pity as mplayer is otherwise very capable.

poc

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 December 2009 12:55:24 Pikachu_2014 wrote:
> 2009/12/14 Patrick O'Callaghan 
> > > > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get Real Audio
> > > > files to play.
> >
> > Mplayer complains (but not about codecs) and stops:
> >
> > $ mplayer
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> > MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> >
> > Playing
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> >. Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...
> > Connecting to server www.bbc.co.uk[212.58.251.195]: 80...
> > Cache size set to 320 KBytes
> > Cache fill:  0.04% (139 bytes)
> >
> > Exiting... (End of file)
> 
> You should add the "-playlist" option to mplayer

Wow! This is useful to know! :-)

Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 13:55 +0100, Pikachu_2014 wrote:
> 
> 
> 2009/12/14 Patrick O'Callaghan 
> 
> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:44 +0100, ELMORABITY Mohamed wrote:
> > Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 14:33 +, Patrick
> O'Callaghan a
> > écrit :
> > > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get
> Real Audio files
> > > to play. I dl'ed the x686 binary from real.com on my
> netbook and tried
> > > the "realplay" command on a .ram file, but just I get
> this:
> > >
> > > ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1010:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to
> open slave
> > >
> > > despite the fact that PA seems to be working (i.e. the
> tests work, Flash
> > > audio works etc.).
> > >
> > > What do people use to listen to Real Audio?
> > >
> > > poc
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > did you tried to use a player provided by Fedora or RPM
> Fusion instead?
> > You should first try with mplayer for example. Some Real
> streams may
> > requires win32/win64 extra codecs, and mplayer will signale
> this in this
> > case.
> 
> 
> I tried both vlc and dragon on a test file. played a minute or
> so and
> then just stopped. Dragon played nothing.
> 
> Mplayer complains (but not about codecs) and stops:
> 
> $ mplayer
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> mplayer: could not connect to socket
> mplayer: No such file or directory
> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your
> remote control.
> 
> Playing
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram.
> Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...
> Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk
> Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...
> Connecting to server www.bbc.co.uk[212.58.251.195]: 80...
> Cache size set to 320 KBytes
> Cache fill:  0.04% (139 bytes)
> 
> 
> Exiting... (End of file)
> 
> The same URL plays without problems on an iMac or PC.
> 
> 
> poc
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> You should add the "-playlist" option to mplayer

That worked, thanks. The original error message from mplayer is
spectacularly obscure.

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 December 2009 12:47:27 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:44 +0100, ELMORABITY Mohamed wrote:
> > Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 14:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan a
> > écrit :
> > > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get Real Audio
> > > files to play.
> >
> > did you tried to use a player provided by Fedora or RPM Fusion instead?
> > You should first try with mplayer for example. Some Real streams may
> > requires win32/win64 extra codecs, and mplayer will signale this in this
> > case.
> 
> I tried both vlc and dragon on a test file.

Does mplayer play that test file? Are you talking about a *file* or a stream 
from the Internet?

> Mplayer complains (but not about codecs) and stops:
> 
> $ mplayer
>  http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
>  MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> mplayer: could not connect to socket
> mplayer: No such file or directory
> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
>  control.

This is just the regular complaint that you don't have remote control set up. 
Ignore it.
 
> Playing
>  http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram.
>  Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...
> Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk

This is just a complaint that IPv6 doesn't work. Ignore it.

> Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...
> Connecting to server www.bbc.co.uk[212.58.251.195]: 80...

IPv4 does resolve, and mplayer successfully connects. This is good.

> Cache size set to 320 KBytes
> Cache fill:  0.04% (139 bytes)
> 
> 
> Exiting... (End of file)

This is bad. Mplayer received only 139 bytes of the stream. Maybe you can try 
it in a more verbose mode (-v), hopefully it will display more info about what 
is going on.

HTH, :-)
Marko


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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Pikachu_2014
2009/12/14 Patrick O'Callaghan 

> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:44 +0100, ELMORABITY Mohamed wrote:
> > Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 14:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan a
> > écrit :
> > > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get Real Audio
> files
> > > to play. I dl'ed the x686 binary from real.com on my netbook and tried
> > > the "realplay" command on a .ram file, but just I get this:
> > >
> > > ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1010:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
> > >
> > > despite the fact that PA seems to be working (i.e. the tests work,
> Flash
> > > audio works etc.).
> > >
> > > What do people use to listen to Real Audio?
> > >
> > > poc
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > did you tried to use a player provided by Fedora or RPM Fusion instead?
> > You should first try with mplayer for example. Some Real streams may
> > requires win32/win64 extra codecs, and mplayer will signale this in this
> > case.
>
> I tried both vlc and dragon on a test file. played a minute or so and
> then just stopped. Dragon played nothing.
>
> Mplayer complains (but not about codecs) and stops:
>
> $ mplayer
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
> MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> mplayer: could not connect to socket
> mplayer: No such file or directory
> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
> control.
>
> Playing
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram.
> Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...
> Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk
> Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...
> Connecting to server www.bbc.co.uk[212.58.251.195]: 80...
> Cache size set to 320 KBytes
> Cache fill:  0.04% (139 bytes)
>
>
> Exiting... (End of file)
>
> The same URL plays without problems on an iMac or PC.
>
> poc
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You should add the "-playlist" option to mplayer
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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:41 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 14:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get Real Audio files
> > to play. I dl'ed the x686 binary from real.com on my netbook and tried
> > the "realplay" command on a .ram file, but just I get this:
> > 
> > ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1010:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave  
> > 
> > despite the fact that PA seems to be working (i.e. the tests work, Flash
> > audio works etc.).
> > 
> > What do people use to listen to Real Audio?
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> I use RealPlayer11GOLD .

That seems to do it, thanks.

poc

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:44 +0100, ELMORABITY Mohamed wrote:
> Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 14:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan a
> écrit :
> > I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get Real Audio files
> > to play. I dl'ed the x686 binary from real.com on my netbook and tried
> > the "realplay" command on a .ram file, but just I get this:
> > 
> > ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1010:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave  
> > 
> > despite the fact that PA seems to be working (i.e. the tests work, Flash
> > audio works etc.).
> > 
> > What do people use to listen to Real Audio?
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> did you tried to use a player provided by Fedora or RPM Fusion instead?
> You should first try with mplayer for example. Some Real streams may
> requires win32/win64 extra codecs, and mplayer will signale this in this
> case.

I tried both vlc and dragon on a test file. played a minute or so and
then just stopped. Dragon played nothing.

Mplayer complains (but not about codecs) and stops:

$ mplayer 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram
MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/rams/inourtime_20081009.ram.
Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...
Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk
Resolving www.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...
Connecting to server www.bbc.co.uk[212.58.251.195]: 80...
Cache size set to 320 KBytes
Cache fill:  0.04% (139 bytes)


Exiting... (End of file)

The same URL plays without problems on an iMac or PC.

poc

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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 14:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get Real Audio files
> to play. I dl'ed the x686 binary from real.com on my netbook and tried
> the "realplay" command on a .ram file, but just I get this:
> 
> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1010:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave  
> 
> despite the fact that PA seems to be working (i.e. the tests work, Flash
> audio works etc.).
> 
> What do people use to listen to Real Audio?
> 
> poc
> 
I use RealPlayer11GOLD .
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Re: Real Audio on F12

2009-12-13 Thread ELMORABITY Mohamed
Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 14:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan a
écrit :
> I'm experiencing considerable frustration trying to get Real Audio files
> to play. I dl'ed the x686 binary from real.com on my netbook and tried
> the "realplay" command on a .ram file, but just I get this:
> 
> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1010:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave  
> 
> despite the fact that PA seems to be working (i.e. the tests work, Flash
> audio works etc.).
> 
> What do people use to listen to Real Audio?
> 
> poc
> 

Hi,

did you tried to use a player provided by Fedora or RPM Fusion instead?
You should first try with mplayer for example. Some Real streams may
requires win32/win64 extra codecs, and mplayer will signale this in this
case.


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