Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 17:55 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > My wife is currently visiting her family in Mauritius, and has taken her > laptop > along with her. Her laptop runs Fedora 8 and I have set up network manager on > it so it will automatically grab any available Internet connection without any > further action required on her part. This works fine here, both with a > wireless and a wired connection. Switch on, blammo! Connection established, > done deal. > > However, she advises me that the connection at her mother's house uses a Sagem > Fast 800 E3 modem that has only a usb connection, and when she plugs it into a > usb port on her laptop nothing happens. (On the actual modem, the word Fast > is > written as [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > A bit of Google searching tells me that this modem is based on the Eagle > chipset (whatever that is) and that there are apparently Linux drivers > available > for this thing, somewhere. Making things more interesting, it appears that > this Sagem is a French outfit, and most of the documentation that I can find > is > written in French. > > So > > Is there an easy way to make this modem work with Fedora 8? My wife is by no > means a "techie"; she just uses whatever software I provide for her, and there > is no way in the world that she will be able to compile a kernel module on her > own, or anything like that. > > "yum search sagem" gives me no results, and "yum search eagle" gives me > nothing > relevant. I'm pretty sure I could call her on the phone and talk her through > a > "yum install whatever" and reboot, but I have no idea what I should tell her > to > install. > > I hate to have to tell her that she hauled her laptop all the way from here to > Mauritius for nothing, but I'm starting to think that's the situation. > > Any suggestions are welcome. she needs a hub and 2 network cables or 1 cross-over network cable and set up the Windows system to do Internet sharing...it's built into Windows XP and newer. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
Frank Cox wrote: My wife is currently visiting her family in Mauritius, and has taken her laptop along with her. Her laptop runs Fedora 8 and I have set up network manager on it so it will automatically grab any available Internet connection without any further action required on her part. This works fine here, both with a wireless and a wired connection. Switch on, blammo! Connection established, done deal. However, she advises me that the connection at her mother's house uses a Sagem Fast 800 E3 modem that has only a usb connection, and when she plugs it into a usb port on her laptop nothing happens. (On the actual modem, the word Fast is written as [EMAIL PROTECTED]) A bit of Google searching tells me that this modem is based on the Eagle chipset (whatever that is) and that there are apparently Linux drivers available for this thing, somewhere. Making things more interesting, it appears that this Sagem is a French outfit, and most of the documentation that I can find is written in French. So Is there an easy way to make this modem work with Fedora 8? My wife is by no means a "techie"; she just uses whatever software I provide for her, and there is no way in the world that she will be able to compile a kernel module on her own, or anything like that. "yum search sagem" gives me no results, and "yum search eagle" gives me nothing relevant. I'm pretty sure I could call her on the phone and talk her through a "yum install whatever" and reboot, but I have no idea what I should tell her to install. I hate to have to tell her that she hauled her laptop all the way from here to Mauritius for nothing, but I'm starting to think that's the situation. Any suggestions are welcome. Check these two sites , there is a driver for Linux for the Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem. http://dev.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php?wiki=EagleUsb200 http://faq.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php?wiki=ModemSupport -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:43:57 -0400 Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Check these two sites , there is a driver for Linux for the Sagem Fast > 800 E3 usb modem. Thank you. This looks like something that I could probably set up if I had the modem and the laptop here to fiddle around with, but I don't think it's going to be workable in the present situation. Thanks for the information, though. The next time someone has a question about one of the modems they will be able to find this in the list archives. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:04:22 -0700 Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > she needs a hub and 2 network cables or 1 cross-over network cable and > set up the Windows system to do Internet sharing...it's built into > Windows XP and newer. That would require a second network card in the Windows XP machine, wouldn't it? Or am I on the wrong track here? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
Frank Cox wrote: > Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > she needs a hub and 2 network cables or 1 cross-over network cable and set up the Windows system to do Internet sharing...it's built into Windows XP and newer. That would require a second network card in the Windows XP machine, wouldn't it? Or am I on the wrong track here? it could be a bit confusing, but i believe craig was meaning ethernet hub. a 'cross-over network cable' does indicate ethernet hub. being that modem is usb, and unless xp system is already 'hosting' ethernet, no second card. so, as he states hub or cross-over network cable. never did any hosting with oos, but i would imagine that 2nd usb port can be used for hosting. then a 'double a' usb cable is needed, or a usb hub with 2 'a-b' cables. or, 1 'a-b' cable with a 'b-a' adapter and no usb hub. if xp system is using usb for mouse, and no usb 3, 4, usb hub will be needed. anyway, i just read back thru above. i hope i did not confuse you more. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
Frank Cox a écrit : Is there an easy way to make this modem work with Fedora 8? My wife is by no means a "techie"; she just uses whatever software I provide for her, and there is no way in the world that she will be able to compile a kernel module on her own, or anything like that. The ueagle-atm driver is provides by (fedora) kernel. http://atm.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php The only thing to install is the firmware. Download : http://eagle-usb.org/ueagle-atm/non-free/ueagle-data-src-1.1.tar.gz The big problem is configuration. I have written the french doc for this modem (i have used during a few years) : http://doc.fedora-fr.org/wiki/Eagle_:_configuration_des_modems_USB Which protocol is used by the ISP ? (ppoa, ppoe, other) Remi. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 06:44 +, g wrote: > Frank Cox wrote: > > Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> she needs a hub and 2 network cables or 1 cross-over network cable and > >> set up the Windows system to do Internet sharing...it's built into > >> Windows XP and newer. > > > > That would require a second network card in the Windows XP machine, wouldn't > > it? Or am I on the wrong track here? > > it could be a bit confusing, but i believe craig was meaning ethernet hub. > a 'cross-over network cable' does indicate ethernet hub. No, I think I was pretty clear. You can network 2 computers by plugging them both into an ethernet hub/switch or by using a 'cross-over' cable between them without a network hub/switch. > being that modem is usb, and unless xp system is already 'hosting' ethernet, > no second card. so, as he states hub or cross-over network cable. > > never did any hosting with oos, but i would imagine that 2nd usb port can be > used for hosting. then a 'double a' usb cable is needed, or a usb hub with 2 > 'a-b' cables. or, 1 'a-b' cable with a 'b-a' adapter and no usb hub. > > if xp system is using usb for mouse, and no usb 3, 4, usb hub will be needed. > > anyway, i just read back thru above. i hope i did not confuse you more. You did add to the confusion rather than clarify. USB does not allow for 2 'master' connections (2 computers sharing 1 device, with or without a USB hub). The specification simply doesn't allow for that type of usage so the above is pointless. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 23:25 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:04:22 -0700 > Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > she needs a hub and 2 network cables or 1 cross-over network cable and > > set up the Windows system to do Internet sharing...it's built into > > Windows XP and newer. > > That would require a second network card in the Windows XP machine, wouldn't > it? Or am I on the wrong track here? laptops typically come with both a wired ethernet and a wireless ethernet. If the computer that's working has an ethernet port, it can share the Internet connection via the ethernet port because Internet sharing is built-in to WinXP. If the computer that's working has wireless, it could share the Internet connection via an 'adhoc' wireless network to your mothers laptop. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
Craig White wrote: That would require a second network card in the Windows XP machine, wouldn't it? Or am I on the wrong track here? No, I think I was pretty clear. maybe not, as he was asking a question, as you may note in above. You did add to the confusion rather than clarify. possibly. if he was, i will apologize him. had he replied before now, i would have cleared up his confusion. as i did for another reply that did not understand 'oos'. USB does not allow for 2 'master' connections (2 computers sharing 1 device, with or without a USB hub). The specification simply doesn't allow for that type of usage of this, i am aware. if you reread what i wrote, it may be more clear that i was saying plug laptop ethernet to xp ethernet or laptop usb into xp usb. not plug 2 usb's into modem. why go to expense of a wireless card if both system have a spare ethernet or usb port? if no spare, then a less expensive card could be purchased. being that this may be a one time deal, no need for buying something expensive that may never be needed again. so the above is pointless. your opinion. again, i will wait for his reply. anyway, lets not make this a back and forth where it does not need to be. take care. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:43:51 -0700 Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > laptops typically come with both a wired ethernet and a wireless > ethernet. That's what her laptop has. > If the computer that's working has an ethernet port, it can share the > Internet connection via the ethernet port because Internet sharing is > built-in to WinXP. So if she gets a crossover Ethernet cable she can plug one end into her laptop and the other end into the Windows computer, and then set up connection sharing on the Windows computer and everything should then work? The Internet connection would come in over the USB cable to the Windows computer and then pass through to the laptop? This does indeed sound like it will get her where she wants to go. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 11:33 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:43:51 -0700 > Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > laptops typically come with both a wired ethernet and a wireless > > ethernet. > > That's what her laptop has. > > > If the computer that's working has an ethernet port, it can share the > > Internet connection via the ethernet port because Internet sharing is > > built-in to WinXP. > > So if she gets a crossover Ethernet cable she can plug one end into her laptop > and the other end into the Windows computer, and then set up connection > sharing > on the Windows computer and everything should then work? The Internet > connection would come in over the USB cable to the Windows computer and then > pass through to the laptop? > > This does indeed sound like it will get her where she wants to go. yes, that's the idea. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:45:57 -0700 Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, that's the idea. Lovely. Thank you ever so much. I just looked up Windows Ethernet Connections Sharing (which I've never heard of before) and it looks simple enough to set up. I just sent my wife a detailed email (Step 1, Step 2, etc) so this should be no problem to get set up. Thanks again. Another success story -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:45:57 -0700 Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yes, that's the idea. Lovely. Thank you ever so much. I just looked up Windows Ethernet Connections Sharing (which I've never heard of before) and it looks simple enough to set up. I just sent my wife a detailed email (Step 1, Step 2, etc) so this should be no problem to get set up. Thanks again. Another success story Another food for thought, When your wife gets home, install NXnode,NXclient,NXserver from http://nomachine.com, on both your Home PC and the Laptop, and if she is connected to the Internet you can make any repairs/modifications that you want while shes on the road , in the graphics mode. Hope you get things going. It just makes me cringe to think, a $Windows computer is bailing out a Linux box. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:53:44 -0400 Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another food for thought, When your wife gets home, install > NXnode,NXclient,NXserver from http://nomachine.com, I actually already have sshd and vncserver installed on her laptop. Unfortunately, it's of little use until she can get it online in the first place. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:43:57 -0400 Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check these two sites , there is a driver for Linux for the Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem. Thank you. This looks like something that I could probably set up if I had the modem and the laptop here to fiddle around with, but I don't think it's going to be workable in the present situation. Thanks for the information, though. The next time someone has a question about one of the modems they will be able to find this in the list archives. Another issue is the ISP may require the MAC address to validate the network connection on their end. I have seen this many times in my helping of others. My mother-in-law has the same issue on her network. She has a USB cable modem. The modem does have an ethernet port but hooking any other computer to this port is a waste of time as the MAC address is useless. The Windows network sharing would be the quickest and easiest way to set this up. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
