Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 11:10 -0500, Jim wrote: > I have the same problem with playing .wmv files in Thunderbird . the > /edit/pref./attachments has VLC set to play .wmv files, but some .wmv > files won't play, it wants me to "Save" them. > > I think it has to do with Mime Types. You can *know* by looking at the message source, and reading the headers just above the attachment. > I get this one person that has a XP computer sends me .jpg pictures > and I can never see them, unless I save them. > The Content Type is set to something different than a .jpg content and > Thunderbird doesn't understand that Content Type. Probably octet-stream, again. Microsoft mail clients have always been incredibly crap at adhering to standards designed umpteen years ago. It's not a difficult thing, but they seem unable to do the most basic of computing tasks correctly. They keep doing this with some of the most common file types (i.e. not ones you'd expect anything to have any difficulties with handling). Gawd but I despair over them, when I think of the decades of damage that Microsoft has caused to the computing world because of their arrogance and incompetence. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 14:07 +0100, Antonio M wrote: > don't understand why same attachment starts openoffice in F12 (two > boxes) , that are both standard installation. > What is different??? Configurations??? Without seeing your computers, or example emails, we cannot tell, just make the usual guesses about the problems. Do you mean the exact same email, or the same sort of email? If you look in the source code for the messages, you can see the MIME type declared in the header above the attachment. There's a chance that you did configure the other programs to handle octet-stream types with a particular application, the first time you tried to open one of them. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
On 12/18/2009 08:07 AM, Antonio M wrote: 2009/12/18 Tim: On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 11:50 +0100, Antonio M wrote: I got an attachment (Microsoft Office doc) but I didn't get the option of F11 to open it with Openoffice or any other application, there is no open with option, same attachment open fine in F12, starting Openoffice writer!!! Chances are that whoever sent you that file sent it with the wrong MIME type descriptor. The sending client describes the type of file, and the receiving client passes that file off to the default application for that type of file. If the *type* is not correctly outlined, then the whole system fails to work. Most likely, it was described as application/octet-stream which means "this is some unknown kind of binary file, figure out how to handle this by yourself." If you try to set up your system to believe that all such unidentified files are word documents, by default, then you're setting yourself up for failure with the next NON word document that's sent with the *unknown* *binary* file type description. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 tnx for the great explanation, Tim.I don't understand why same attachment starts openoffice in F12 (two boxes) , that are both standard installation. What is different??? I have the same problem with playing .wmv files in Thunderbird . the /edit/pref./attachments has VLC set to play .wmv files, but some .wmv files won't play, it wants me to "Save" them. I think it has to do with Mime Types. I get this one person that has a XP computer sends me .jpg pictures and I can never see them, unless I save them. The Content Type is set to something different than a .jpg content and Thunderbird doesn't understand that Content Type. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
2009/12/18 Tim : > On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 11:50 +0100, Antonio M wrote: >> I got an attachment (Microsoft Office doc) but I didn't get the option >> of F11 to open it with Openoffice or any other application, there is >> no open with option, same attachment open fine in F12, starting >> Openoffice writer!!! > > Chances are that whoever sent you that file sent it with the wrong MIME > type descriptor. The sending client describes the type of file, and the > receiving client passes that file off to the default application for > that type of file. If the *type* is not correctly outlined, then the > whole system fails to work. > > Most likely, it was described as application/octet-stream which means > "this is some unknown kind of binary file, figure out how to handle this > by yourself." If you try to set up your system to believe that all such > unidentified files are word documents, by default, then you're setting > yourself up for failure with the next NON word document that's sent with > the *unknown* *binary* file type description. > > -- > [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 > > tnx for the great explanation, Tim.I don't understand why same attachment starts openoffice in F12 (two boxes) , that are both standard installation. What is different??? -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 11:50 +0100, Antonio M wrote: > I got an attachment (Microsoft Office doc) but I didn't get the option > of F11 to open it with Openoffice or any other application, there is > no open with option, same attachment open fine in F12, starting > Openoffice writer!!! Chances are that whoever sent you that file sent it with the wrong MIME type descriptor. The sending client describes the type of file, and the receiving client passes that file off to the default application for that type of file. If the *type* is not correctly outlined, then the whole system fails to work. Most likely, it was described as application/octet-stream which means "this is some unknown kind of binary file, figure out how to handle this by yourself." If you try to set up your system to believe that all such unidentified files are word documents, by default, then you're setting yourself up for failure with the next NON word document that's sent with the *unknown* *binary* file type description. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
2009/12/18 Ed Greshko : > Antonio M wrote: >> 2009/12/18 Ed Greshko : >> >>> Antonio M wrote: >>> how do I add an other type of attachment?? I don't see such option, maybe too early in the morning (I have only OpenDocument text and PDF document, I want to add a MicrosoftOffice text...) >>> AFAIK, you can't add new attachment types directly...at least not from >>> the GUI. The actions get created when a particular attachment type is >>> first encountered and clicked on. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> es >>> >>> >> >> I guess that some lines have to be added manually to mymetypes.rdf in >> ./Thunderbird/Profiles folder, but how??? >> >> > No I just means you either have to wait until someone sends you a > particular attachment or you can send them to yourself. > > -- > A private sin is not so prejudicial in the world as a public indecency. > -- Miguel de Cervantes Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > Ed I got an attachment (Microsoft Office doc) but I didn't get the option of F11 to open it with Openoffice or any other application, there is no open with option, same attachment open fine in F12, starting Openoffice writer!!! -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
Antonio M wrote: > 2009/12/18 Ed Greshko : > >> Antonio M wrote: >> >>> how do I add an other type of attachment?? I don't see such option, >>> maybe too early in the morning >>> (I have only OpenDocument text and PDF document, I want to add a >>> MicrosoftOffice text...) >>> >>> >>> >> AFAIK, you can't add new attachment types directly...at least not from >> the GUI. The actions get created when a particular attachment type is >> first encountered and clicked on. >> >> >> -- >> es >> >> > > I guess that some lines have to be added manually to mymetypes.rdf in > ./Thunderbird/Profiles folder, but how??? > > No I just means you either have to wait until someone sends you a particular attachment or you can send them to yourself. -- A private sin is not so prejudicial in the world as a public indecency. -- Miguel de Cervantes Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
2009/12/18 Ed Greshko : > Antonio M wrote: >> >> how do I add an other type of attachment?? I don't see such option, >> maybe too early in the morning >> (I have only OpenDocument text and PDF document, I want to add a >> MicrosoftOffice text...) >> >> > AFAIK, you can't add new attachment types directly...at least not from > the GUI. The actions get created when a particular attachment type is > first encountered and clicked on. > > > -- > es > I guess that some lines have to be added manually to mymetypes.rdf in ./Thunderbird/Profiles folder, but how??? -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
Antonio M wrote: > > how do I add an other type of attachment?? I don't see such option, > maybe too early in the morning > (I have only OpenDocument text and PDF document, I want to add a > MicrosoftOffice text...) > > AFAIK, you can't add new attachment types directly...at least not from the GUI. The actions get created when a particular attachment type is first encountered and clicked on. -- The capacity to learn is a gift; The ability to learn is a skill; The willingness to learn is a choice. -- REBEC OF GINAZ Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
2009/12/18 Ed Greshko : > Antonio M wrote: >> I am running F11 fully updated on this box, >> thunderbird-3.0-3.fc11.i586, openoffice.org-3.1.1-19.8 >> >> When I receive an attachment, if it is *.odt Openoffice is started, if >> it is *.doc I have only the option to save it... >> Both files start openoffice from nautilus. >> >> What shall I do to have the correct behaviour??? Tnx >> >> > You should be able to change it in "Edit--->Preferences-->Attachments" > > -- > The cost of feathers has risen, even down is up! Guess Who! > http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > how do I add an other type of attachment?? I don't see such option, maybe too early in the morning (I have only OpenDocument text and PDF document, I want to add a MicrosoftOffice text...) -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
Antonio M wrote: > I am running F11 fully updated on this box, > thunderbird-3.0-3.fc11.i586, openoffice.org-3.1.1-19.8 > > When I receive an attachment, if it is *.odt Openoffice is started, if > it is *.doc I have only the option to save it... > Both files start openoffice from nautilus. > > What shall I do to have the correct behaviour??? Tnx > > You should be able to change it in "Edit--->Preferences-->Attachments" -- The cost of feathers has risen, even down is up! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
