Re: VMware Workstation with raw disk in F12

2009-12-17 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 14:06 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: 
> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 10:14 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: 
> > On 12/17/2009 09:19 AM, Michal wrote:
> > > On 17/12/2009 16:49, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > >> I'm trying to work with a dual-boot machine, with VMware Workstation 7,
> > >> Fedora 12 as the host, and WinXP as the guest.

So let me ask the question differently.

Does anyone have VMware Workstation 7 or equivalent working with an F12
host and a WinXP guest on a raw disk?  If so, what did you have to do?

Thanks.

[nothing new below here]

> > >>
> > >> When I define the VM and select the raw disk, VMware configures the disk
> > >> as SCSI, even though the hardware is SATA.  I changed the .vmdk file to
> > >> make the disk IDE and set the geometry appropriately, but it still
> > >> doesn't work.  ISTR that there are also some changes needed to the .vmx
> > >> file, but I can't seem to find any reference to it when I google.  I
> > >> have an old configuration (that was working before I made some changes
> > >> to the disk partitions) that I've tried to extract changes from, but the
> > >> new version is different enough that I can't tell exactly what I need.
> > >>
> > >> Any hints or sources?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I am confused what the problem is. Yes VMware configures it as SCSI even
> > > though it's SATA...it will still work and run with no problems...
> > 
> > On Linux, ALL block devices are treated as if they're SCSI.  There is
> > no differentiation between IDE, SATA, SAS, fiberchannel, iSCSI, USB,
> > Firewire or true SCSI.  Even IDE-based CDROMs show up as /dev/srX.
> > This has been true for a very long time...at least a couple of years
> > and an early 2.6 kernel (2.6.4 rings a bell for some reason).
> > 
> > Since VMWare is being hosted by F12, it makes absolute sense why your
> > SATA drive appears to be SCSI.  I'm just rather surprised you just found
> > this out.
> 
> Well, I did know that, actually.  The problem is that when configured
> this way using raw disks, the VM *won't boot*.  The configuration that I
> had working in F11 before the disk rebuild had the controller type
> changed to IDE because otherwise it doesn't work.
> 
> BTW, the CD-ROM shows up in VMware as being IDE.
> 
> I have a grub floppy image that I use as a boot loader for the VM.  The
> boot loader starts and chains to the WinXP loader, then the VM hangs.  I
> should point out that the WinXP system disk was not changed when I
> repartitioned.  The grub on the bare metal machine dual boots just fine.
> If I replace the controller type in the .vmdk file, I get a message that
> the controller type is changed.  The boot starts, but it bluescreens.
> 


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Re: VMware Workstation with raw disk in F12

2009-12-17 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 10:14 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: 
> On 12/17/2009 09:19 AM, Michal wrote:
> > On 17/12/2009 16:49, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> >> I'm trying to work with a dual-boot machine, with VMware Workstation 7,
> >> Fedora 12 as the host, and WinXP as the guest.
> >>
> >> When I define the VM and select the raw disk, VMware configures the disk
> >> as SCSI, even though the hardware is SATA.  I changed the .vmdk file to
> >> make the disk IDE and set the geometry appropriately, but it still
> >> doesn't work.  ISTR that there are also some changes needed to the .vmx
> >> file, but I can't seem to find any reference to it when I google.  I
> >> have an old configuration (that was working before I made some changes
> >> to the disk partitions) that I've tried to extract changes from, but the
> >> new version is different enough that I can't tell exactly what I need.
> >>
> >> Any hints or sources?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >
> > I am confused what the problem is. Yes VMware configures it as SCSI even
> > though it's SATA...it will still work and run with no problems...
> 
> On Linux, ALL block devices are treated as if they're SCSI.  There is
> no differentiation between IDE, SATA, SAS, fiberchannel, iSCSI, USB,
> Firewire or true SCSI.  Even IDE-based CDROMs show up as /dev/srX.
> This has been true for a very long time...at least a couple of years
> and an early 2.6 kernel (2.6.4 rings a bell for some reason).
> 
> Since VMWare is being hosted by F12, it makes absolute sense why your
> SATA drive appears to be SCSI.  I'm just rather surprised you just found
> this out.

Well, I did know that, actually.  The problem is that when configured
this way using raw disks, the VM *won't boot*.  The configuration that I
had working in F11 before the disk rebuild had the controller type
changed to IDE because otherwise it doesn't work.

BTW, the CD-ROM shows up in VMware as being IDE.

I have a grub floppy image that I use as a boot loader for the VM.  The
boot loader starts and chains to the WinXP loader, then the VM hangs.  I
should point out that the WinXP system disk was not changed when I
repartitioned.  The grub on the bare metal machine dual boots just fine.
If I replace the controller type in the .vmdk file, I get a message that
the controller type is changed.  The boot starts, but it bluescreens.

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Re: VMware Workstation with raw disk in F12

2009-12-17 Thread Rick Stevens

On 12/17/2009 09:19 AM, Michal wrote:

On 17/12/2009 16:49, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

I'm trying to work with a dual-boot machine, with VMware Workstation 7,
Fedora 12 as the host, and WinXP as the guest.

When I define the VM and select the raw disk, VMware configures the disk
as SCSI, even though the hardware is SATA.  I changed the .vmdk file to
make the disk IDE and set the geometry appropriately, but it still
doesn't work.  ISTR that there are also some changes needed to the .vmx
file, but I can't seem to find any reference to it when I google.  I
have an old configuration (that was working before I made some changes
to the disk partitions) that I've tried to extract changes from, but the
new version is different enough that I can't tell exactly what I need.

Any hints or sources?

Thanks.



I am confused what the problem is. Yes VMware configures it as SCSI even
though it's SATA...it will still work and run with no problems...


On Linux, ALL block devices are treated as if they're SCSI.  There is
no differentiation between IDE, SATA, SAS, fiberchannel, iSCSI, USB,
Firewire or true SCSI.  Even IDE-based CDROMs show up as /dev/srX.
This has been true for a very long time...at least a couple of years
and an early 2.6 kernel (2.6.4 rings a bell for some reason).

Since VMWare is being hosted by F12, it makes absolute sense why your
SATA drive appears to be SCSI.  I'm just rather surprised you just found
this out.
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Re: VMware Workstation with raw disk in F12

2009-12-17 Thread Michal
On 17/12/2009 16:49, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> I'm trying to work with a dual-boot machine, with VMware Workstation 7,
> Fedora 12 as the host, and WinXP as the guest.  
> 
> When I define the VM and select the raw disk, VMware configures the disk
> as SCSI, even though the hardware is SATA.  I changed the .vmdk file to
> make the disk IDE and set the geometry appropriately, but it still
> doesn't work.  ISTR that there are also some changes needed to the .vmx
> file, but I can't seem to find any reference to it when I google.  I
> have an old configuration (that was working before I made some changes
> to the disk partitions) that I've tried to extract changes from, but the
> new version is different enough that I can't tell exactly what I need.
> 
> Any hints or sources?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

I am confused what the problem is. Yes VMware configures it as SCSI even
though it's SATA...it will still work and run with no problems...

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