Re: What's the difference between /etc/init.d and /sbin/service
On Saturday 18 April 2009 19:21:30 Remi Collet wrote: ... You use want to use apache with php and Oracle. In your root environment you have all the stuff needed (mainly LD_LIBRARY_PATH, yes I know it's stupid, but it's Oracle) If you use /etc/init.d/httpd script apache will start. On next reboot it wouldn't because of missing environment ;) SetEnv ORACLE_HOME ... SetEnv LD_LIBRARY_PATH ... in your apache config / vhosts file. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What's the difference between /etc/init.d and /sbin/service
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:32:37 +0800 Nathan Huang wrote: I face a problem, What 's the difference between these two commands? Nothing much, there just happens to be an assortment of different ways to get service scripts going (which is, naturally, completely different on different linux distros). Direct invocation of /etc/init.d/ scripts is more likely to work on many different distros, but even it doesn't always works as some distros don't install the scripts with the execute bit turned on. It is all part of the international conspiracy to make cross-distro system administration as difficult as possible :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What's the difference between /etc/init.d and /sbin/service
Le 18/04/2009 16:44, Tom Horsley a écrit : On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:32:37 +0800 Nathan Huang wrote: I face a problem, What 's the difference between these two commands? Nothing much, I don't think so. Main difference is environment which is clean before launch the service by the service command. Using service environment is closer to the one used during server boot process (really different from interactive session) One typical issue is environment variable need to start apache defined in root interactive session and not during boot process. (Such variable must be add to /etc/sysconfig/apache) So please : don't use directly /etc/init.d/foo script Remi. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What's the difference between /etc/init.d and /sbin/service
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 22:32 +0800, Nathan Huang wrote: Hi guys I face a problem, What 's the difference between these two commands? [miran...@charon ~]$ su -c '/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop' [miran...@charon ~]$ |su -c '/sbin/service NetworkManager start assuming that the | character was a type and that you put a single quote at the end of the second statement, the difference would be that the first statement stops NetworkManager daemon and the second one starts it. /sbin/service $SOME_initscript_located_in_/etc/init.d/ and /etc/init.d/$SOME_initscript are essentially the same Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What's the difference between /etc/init.d and /sbin/service
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 23:15 +0800, Nathan Huang wrote: Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 22:32 +0800, Nathan Huang wrote: Hi guys I face a problem, What 's the difference between these two commands? [miran...@charon ~]$ su -c '/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop' [miran...@charon ~]$ |su -c '/sbin/service NetworkManager start assuming that the | character was a type and that you put a single quote at the end of the second statement, the difference would be that the first statement stops NetworkManager daemon and the second one starts it. /sbin/service $SOME_initscript_located_in_/etc/init.d/ and /etc/init.d/$SOME_initscript are essentially the same Craig Hi Craig we can stop NetworkManager from typing '/sbin/service NetworkManager stop' Why we can also stop NetworkManger from /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop? What's the difference between these two places? thanks nathan from 'man service' DESCRIPTION service runs a System V init script in as predictable environment as possible, removing most environment variables and with current working directory set to /. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What's the difference between /etc/init.d and /sbin/service
On 04/18/2009 04:53 PM, Remi Collet wrote: One typical issue is environment variable need to start apache defined in root interactive session and not during boot process. (Such variable must be add to /etc/sysconfig/apache) So please : don't use directly /etc/init.d/foo script Exactly what is the problem with the apache /etc/init.d/-script? I more or less never uses /sbin/services, I always use the /etc/init.d/-scripts directly. And regarding apache I have not seen any side effects, but perhaps I have missed something? /Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What's the difference between /etc/init.d and /sbin/service
Nathan Huang wrote: [miran...@charon ~]$ su -c '/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop' That's the braindead Debian way and should not be used in Fedora, that's what the service command is for. It's available even for Debian: http://packages.debian.org/sid/chkconfig Ubuntu these days ships a /usr/bin/service (why in /usr/bin??) as part of the following essential package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/sysvinit-utils Fedora has been using service since basically forever (it was already there in Red Hat Linux). And you should not have to specify /sbin as it has been added to the PATH for all users in F10. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What's the difference between /etc/init.d and /sbin/service
Le 18/04/2009 18:59, Lars E. Pettersson a écrit : Exactly what is the problem with the apache /etc/init.d/-script? One example (probably very specific, but I have to fight with it, in my first experience of sysadmin...) You use want to use apache with php and Oracle. In your root environment you have all the stuff needed (mainly LD_LIBRARY_PATH, yes I know it's stupid, but it's Oracle) If you use /etc/init.d/httpd script apache will start. On next reboot it wouldn't because of missing environment ;) + -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What's the difference between /etc/init.d and /sbin/service
Nathan Huang writes: Hi guys I face a problem, What 's the difference between these two commands? [miran...@charon ~]$ su -c '/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop' [miran...@charon ~]$ |su -c '/sbin/service NetworkManager start The service command sets up a few things in the environment. In addition, on systems that use SELinux, it sets up the right SELinux context. pgpugpb8maG9F.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
