Re: how to not lock the screen
More data: The problem went away for a while for no apparent reason. Hence, I haven't posted in a while. I turned off my computer when I went away for a weekend. I turned it on yesterday and today the problem is back. Any ideas? The problem is rather annoying. On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, g wrote: Michael Hennebry wrote: I did an experiment. snip Eventually something else blanked the screen and wanted my password. 2 good reasons for what i have 4 suggestions. 1a) if not already level 3, change '/etc/inittab' to *id:3:initdefault:*, reboot. 1b) in 'level 3'; $ mv .kde .kde.old $ startx if still, 2) add another user, login as, if continues, #3. I got around to trying 1 and 2, but no joy. After exiting X, I did notice window manager complaints. I kind of fuzzy on what they were. Possibly they were the result of trying to run a gnome desktop without gnome. IIRC I didn't clickon gnome during install. I tried grepping /var/log/* , but didn't find the complaints. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, g wrote: Michael Hennebry wrote: More data: The problem went away for a while for no apparent reason. Hence, I haven't posted in a while. I turned off my computer when I went away for a weekend. you should have stayed home or left computer on. I turned it on yesterday and today the problem is back. or, left it off. :o) Any ideas? previous post are on other system. will have to login on it to see what all has been gone thru. back later after i check. Thanks. Assuming that I can get to anothe virtual terminal, is there a way to ask which processes are using the X display? Better yet, is there a way to find out which process has a lock or created the top window? I'm at work now and can't test any theories. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm at work now and can't test any theories. i just sent you a message off list. have a look at it and reply back thru it. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, g wrote: Michael Hennebry wrote: I did an experiment. snip Eventually something else blanked the screen and wanted my password. 2 good reasons for what i have 4 suggestions. 1a) if not already level 3, change '/etc/inittab' to *id:3:initdefault:*, reboot. 1b) in 'level 3'; $ mv .kde .kde.old $ startx if still, 2) add another user, login as, if continues, #3. I got around to trying 1 and 2, but no joy. After exiting X, I did notice window manager complaints. I kind of fuzzy on what they were. Possibly they were the result of trying to run a gnome desktop without gnome. IIRC I didn't clickon gnome during install. I tried grepping /var/log/* , but didn't find the complaints. 3) r r kde. I don't know how to r r KDE or anything else. I presume it doesn't mean rest and recreate. seaRch and destRoy? 4) someone else this list | kde 'tech list' | read source. i have tried to dupe problem, unable. i have 'touch', 'find', 'grep' and not found any files that give clue. 'flag' for screen password lock may be in a 'power save' file, even a display manager. if it where a problem i had, i would have r r kde long ago. whole install, maybe. for sure if i found 'bug' early. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
Michael Hennebry wrote: I got around to trying 1 and 2, but no joy. After exiting X, I did notice window manager complaints. I kind of fuzzy on what they were. i have yet to close kde and not have a bunch of errors show. most of them are 'error: bad window', but all windows were ok and i just dismiss them. Possibly they were the result of trying to run a gnome desktop without gnome. IIRC I didn't clickon gnome during install. fedora has gnome as default desktop. to disable gnome, you must unselect it, as well as you must select kde. 3) r r kde. I don't know how to r r KDE or anything else. I presume it doesn't mean rest and recreate. no. seaRch and destRoy? closer. remove and replace. it is possible that something was wrong in original install. this is why when i note problems in a new install, i consider that if there is 1 or 2 problems that i see, there could be more. so i will do a complete new install. usually this will fix problems. if not, i install again, but leave out a lot of manual selections for later if install looks good. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, g wrote: nft. Not for tourists? no telling. interesting times. F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN TTY TIME CMD 4 S 0 1 0 0 80 0 - 528 - ?00:00:13 init so are all of these. but no clue. as in next post, 1 - 2 - 3 - 4... -- tc,hago. g . in a free world with out fences, who needs gates... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
Michael Hennebry wrote: I did an experiment. snip Eventually something else blanked the screen and wanted my password. 2 good reasons for what i have 4 suggestions. 1a) if not already level 3, change '/etc/inittab' to *id:3:initdefault:*, reboot. 1b) in 'level 3'; $ mv .kde .kde.old $ startx if still, 2) add another user, login as, if continues, #3. 3) r r kde. 4) someone else this list | kde 'tech list' | read source. i have tried to dupe problem, unable. i have 'touch', 'find', 'grep' and not found any files that give clue. 'flag' for screen password lock may be in a 'power save' file, even a display manager. if it where a problem i had, i would have r r kde long ago. whole install, maybe. for sure if i found 'bug' early. good luck with venture. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world with out fences, who needs gates... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
I did an experiment. I used the gui to tell the screensaver to turn one after 1 min. It worked once. The next time the screensaver animation didn't come on. Eventually something else blanked the screen and wanted my password. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
Michael Hennebry wrote: Alas, I wrote too soon. It seems to have worked just once. what sel level? as which user? during same session? x restart? reboot? think about this; from a term, ~]$ touch tstamp.fn run control center, then from a term, ~]$ find . -newer tstamp.fn -print -exec `ls -l` hold.list should give you kde files with configs. i would tell you if i knew. file is for compare later when you do what ever you do and you are back where you where. unless some one knows a reason, or better approach. later. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, g wrote: Michael Hennebry wrote: Alas, I wrote too soon. It seems to have worked just once. what sel level? as which user? during same session? x restart? reboot? What is an sel level? hennebry as usual. yes, no, no. think about this; from a term, ~]$ touch tstamp.fn run control center, then from a term, ~]$ find . -newer tstamp.fn -print -exec `ls -l` hold.list should give you kde files with configs. i would tell you if i knew. file is for compare later when you do what ever you do and you are back where you where. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ find . -newer tstamp.fn -print -exec ls -ld \; hold.list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat hold.list . drwx-- 55 hennebry hennebry 4096 2008-06-07 09:31 . ./hold.list drwx-- 55 hennebry hennebry 4096 2008-06-07 09:31 . ./.kde/share/config drwx-- 55 hennebry hennebry 4096 2008-06-07 09:31 . ./.kde/share/config/kcontrolrc drwx-- 55 hennebry hennebry 4096 2008-06-07 09:31 . ./.kde/share/config/kdeglobals drwx-- 55 hennebry hennebry 4096 2008-06-07 09:31 . ./.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc drwx-- 55 hennebry hennebry 4096 2008-06-07 09:31 . ./.kde/share/config/kickerrc drwx-- 55 hennebry hennebry 4096 2008-06-07 09:31 . I think something else is demanding a password. Whatever it is is taking more than 5 minutes to blank the screen. The screensaver is set for an animation. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
Michael Hennebry wrote: What is an sel level? SELinux hennebry as usual. yes, no, no. was if you had any type of 'file recovery' running'. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ find . -newer tstamp.fn -print -exec ls -ld \; hold.list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat hold.list drwx-- 55 hennebry hennebry 4096 2008-06-07 09:31 . ./.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc strange way 'kdesktoprc' is shown, being i have it as a file, not a directory. anyway, my 'kdesktoprc', sleep enabled and lock disabled shows; [ScreenSaver] Lock=false Saver=KSlideshow.desktop Timeout=480 w/ lock enabled; [ScreenSaver] Saver=KSlideshow.desktop Timeout=480 where 'lock=' went, do not know. may be else where with 'display power off'. not sure of where it would be tied in, and need 'find /'. being that it is thru 'control center', setup file could be among /etc or /usr. I think something else is demanding a password. maybe. 'ps -el|less' to see what else is running. Whatever it is is taking more than 5 minutes to blank the screen. The screensaver is set for an animation. nft. if no one comes up with solution, you could always 'mv .kde .kde.bad' and run 'startx' again. yes, i know, re-config kde. but what the heck, it might cure things. at least you will still have desktop icons. scattered, but there. :o) there is always loading source and reading a bunch c files. :o( loads of luck and perseverance. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world with out fences, who needs gates... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, g wrote:
Michael Hennebry wrote:
What is an sel level?
SELinux
Apparently not enforcing.
A .so file compiled without -pic ran.
hennebry as usual.
yes, no, no.
was if you had any type of 'file recovery' running'.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ find . -newer tstamp.fn -print -exec ls -ld \;
hold.list
I forgot the {}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat hold.list
drwx-- 55 hennebry hennebry 4096 2008-06-07 09:31 .
./.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc
strange way 'kdesktoprc' is shown, being i have it as a file, not a directory.
I forgot the {}
anyway, my 'kdesktoprc', sleep enabled and lock disabled shows;
[ScreenSaver]
Lock=false
Saver=KSlideshow.desktop
Timeout=480
w/ lock enabled;
[ScreenSaver]
Saver=KSlideshow.desktop
Timeout=480
where 'lock=' went, do not know. may be else where with 'display power off'.
not sure of where it would be tied in, and need 'find /'. being that it is
thru
'control center', setup file could be among /etc or /usr.
I have:
[ScreenSaver]
Lock=false
LockGrace=30
Saver=KPolygon.desktop
Timeout=1200
[Version]
30 ms=5 min.
Getting rid of LockGrace didn't help.
I think something else is demanding a password.
maybe. 'ps -el|less' to see what else is running.
Lots there. Little that I recognize.
I've appended the result of ps -el /tmp/ps.txt
I removed some stuff that I did recognize: bash, xterm, vim.
Is gnome-screensav supposed to be there?
Whatever it is is taking more than 5 minutes to blank the screen.
The screensaver is set for an animation.
nft.
Not for tourists?
if no one comes up with solution, you could always 'mv .kde .kde.bad'
and run 'startx' again.
yes, i know, re-config kde. but what the heck, it might cure things.
at least you will still have desktop icons. scattered, but there. :o)
there is always loading source and reading a bunch c files. :o(
My previous such efforts did not go well rewarded.
loads of luck and perseverance.
interesting times.
F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN TTY TIME CMD
4 S 0 1 0 0 80 0 - 528 - ?00:00:13 init
1 S 0 2 0 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kthreadd
1 S 0 3 2 0 -40 - - 0 - ?00:00:01 migration/0
1 S 0 4 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0
5 S 0 5 2 0 -40 - - 0 - ?00:00:00 watchdog/0
1 S 0 6 2 0 -40 - - 0 - ?00:00:01 migration/1
1 S 0 7 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 ksoftirqd/1
5 S 0 8 2 0 -40 - - 0 - ?00:00:00 watchdog/1
1 S 0 9 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:05 events/0
1 S 010 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:06 events/1
1 S 011 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 khelper
1 S 064 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kblockd/0
1 S 065 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kblockd/1
1 S 068 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kacpid
1 S 069 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kacpi_notify
1 S 0 143 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 cqueue/0
1 S 0 144 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 cqueue/1
1 S 0 146 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 ksuspend_usbd
1 S 0 151 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 khubd
1 S 0 154 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kseriod
1 S 0 189 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:07 kswapd0
1 S 0 229 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 aio/0
1 S 0 230 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 aio/1
1 S 0 377 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kpsmoused
1 S 0 414 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:01:48 ata/0
1 S 0 415 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:02:17 ata/1
1 S 0 416 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 ata_aux
1 S 0 423 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 scsi_eh_0
1 S 0 424 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:06:02 scsi_eh_1
1 S 0 425 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 scsi_eh_2
1 S 0 426 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 scsi_eh_3
1 S 0 438 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:03 kjournald
1 S 0 470 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kauditd
5 S 0 502 1 0 76 -4 - 906 - ?00:00:00 udevd
0 S 500 673 2726 0 80 0 - 12013 - ?00:00:03 gvim
1 S 0 1263 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kmpathd/0
1 S 0 1264 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kmpathd/1
1 S 0 1295 2 0 75 -5 - 0 - ?00:00:00 kjournald
1 S 0 1296 2 0 75 -5 -
Re: how to not lock the screen
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, g wrote: Michael Hennebry wrote: I recently installed FC8 and haven't been able to find the incantation to tell FC8 and KDE not to lock my screen. How do I tell them not to lock my screen? bring up kde 'control center', click '[+] appearance themes', click 'screen saver', click '[x] require password to stop', leaving, '[ ] require password to stop'. should do it. Thanks. I'd found the spot before, but coudn't get it to work. 'Require password to stop' wasn't xed, but it was grayed out. xing 'Start automatically' eliminated the need for a password. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
Michael Hennebry wrote: Thanks. you are welcome. glad you got things to work for you. I'd found the spot before, but coudn't get it to work. 'Require password to stop' wasn't xed, but it was grayed out. xing 'Start automatically' eliminated the need for a password. interesting. xing 'Start automatically' is among 1st in my initial setup of kde. i like to blank crt. was not aware of effect if password not xed. live and learn, die and forget. thanks for info. later. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
