Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-30 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis

On 30.10.2008 02:03, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:

The current recommendations are to get it from those still willing to risk
distributing it (rpmfusion currently is not)

[...]
What's the proposed alternative?  Suppose we can't get libdvdcss at all
- how would we watch DVDs then?


Some Livna and RPM Fusion contributors are working on a solution. For 
now and the coming weeks just continue to grab libdvdcss from Freshrpms 
or Livna, just as you did before.


CU
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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-30 Thread g
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Craig White wrote:
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 A mailing-list has been set up for support and discussion about
 libdvdcss. Its address is :

great links. thanks for posting them.
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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-29 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 The current recommendations are to get it from those still willing to risk
 distributing it (rpmfusion currently is not)

Well, this is going to make watching my DVDs on my Fedora desktop pretty
damn hard.  It'll ruin the desktop experience for a lot of newbs, not to
mention making it a pain in the ass for experienced users.

What's the proposed alternative?  Suppose we can't get libdvdcss at all
- how would we watch DVDs then?

Regards,

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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-29 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]
 To: fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 6:03 PM
 On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
  The current recommendations are to get it from those
 still willing to risk
  distributing it (rpmfusion currently is not)
 
 Well, this is going to make watching my DVDs on my Fedora
 desktop pretty
 damn hard.  It'll ruin the desktop experience for a lot
 of newbs, not to
 mention making it a pain in the ass for experienced users.
 
 What's the proposed alternative?  Suppose we can't
 get libdvdcss at all
 - how would we watch DVDs then?
On our PC's right?  

1) On Bill's OS
2) On regular dvd players which are intended for this (please do not get 
offended) 
3) find/retrieve/store keep copies of libdvdcss source code and compile it on 
our own, at our own risk, and install it.

I still like option 3 the best, but as long as I can watch the movie I would 
not mind option 2 or 1 going in that direction :)

Regards,

Antonio 
 
 Regards,
 
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 0.27, 0.14 
 
 
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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-29 Thread Anthony Messina
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 09:34:41 pm Craig White wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 19:09 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
  --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   From: Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]
   To: fedora-list@redhat.com
   Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 6:03 PM
  
   On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
The current recommendations are to get it from those
  
   still willing to risk
  
distributing it (rpmfusion currently is not)
  
   Well, this is going to make watching my DVDs on my Fedora
   desktop pretty
   damn hard.  It'll ruin the desktop experience for a lot
   of newbs, not to
   mention making it a pain in the ass for experienced users.
  
   What's the proposed alternative?  Suppose we can't
   get libdvdcss at all
   - how would we watch DVDs then?
 
  On our PC's right?
 
  1) On Bill's OS
  2) On regular dvd players which are intended for this (please do not get
  offended) 3) find/retrieve/store keep copies of libdvdcss source code and
  compile it on our own, at our own risk, and install it.
 
  I still like option 3 the best, but as long as I can watch the movie I
  would not mind option 2 or 1 going in that direction :)

 
 A mailing-list has been set up for support and discussion about
 libdvdcss. Its address is :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To subscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following
 words in the mail body :

subscribe libdvdcss

 To unsubscribe, do the same with the words :

unsubscribe libdvdcss

is that the right address?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host skanda.videolan.org[2001:41d0:1:a690::1] said: 550
    5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
    virtual alias table (in reply to RCPT TO command)

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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-29 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 23:09 -0500, Anthony Messina wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 October 2008 09:34:41 pm Craig White wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 19:09 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
   --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
From: Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 6:03 PM
   
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 The current recommendations are to get it from those
   
still willing to risk
   
 distributing it (rpmfusion currently is not)
   
Well, this is going to make watching my DVDs on my Fedora
desktop pretty
damn hard.  It'll ruin the desktop experience for a lot
of newbs, not to
mention making it a pain in the ass for experienced users.
   
What's the proposed alternative?  Suppose we can't
get libdvdcss at all
- how would we watch DVDs then?
  
   On our PC's right?
  
   1) On Bill's OS
   2) On regular dvd players which are intended for this (please do not get
   offended) 3) find/retrieve/store keep copies of libdvdcss source code and
   compile it on our own, at our own risk, and install it.
  
   I still like option 3 the best, but as long as I can watch the movie I
   would not mind option 2 or 1 going in that direction :)
 
  
  A mailing-list has been set up for support and discussion about
  libdvdcss. Its address is :
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  To subscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following
  words in the mail body :
 
 subscribe libdvdcss
 
  To unsubscribe, do the same with the words :
 
 unsubscribe libdvdcss
 
 is that the right address?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host skanda.videolan.org[2001:41d0:1:a690::1] said: 550
 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
 virtual alias table (in reply to RCPT TO command)

that came from the README from livna (F9) but it may very well be that
videolan.org discontinued mail list as they do have a wiki...
http://wiki.videolan.org/Main_Page

and forums
http://forum.videolan.org/

and it's a live/robust project

Craig

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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-29 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 23:09 -0500, Anthony Messina wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 October 2008 09:34:41 pm Craig White wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 19:09 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
   --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
From: Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 6:03 PM
   
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 The current recommendations are to get it from those
   
still willing to risk
   
 distributing it (rpmfusion currently is not)
   
Well, this is going to make watching my DVDs on my Fedora
desktop pretty
damn hard.  It'll ruin the desktop experience for a lot
of newbs, not to
mention making it a pain in the ass for experienced users.
   
What's the proposed alternative?  Suppose we can't
get libdvdcss at all
- how would we watch DVDs then?
  
   On our PC's right?
  
   1) On Bill's OS
   2) On regular dvd players which are intended for this (please do not get
   offended) 3) find/retrieve/store keep copies of libdvdcss source code and
   compile it on our own, at our own risk, and install it.
  
   I still like option 3 the best, but as long as I can watch the movie I
   would not mind option 2 or 1 going in that direction :)
 
  
  A mailing-list has been set up for support and discussion about
  libdvdcss. Its address is :
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  To subscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following
  words in the mail body :
 
 subscribe libdvdcss
 
  To unsubscribe, do the same with the words :
 
 unsubscribe libdvdcss

 is that the right address?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host skanda.videolan.org[2001:41d0:1:a690::1] said: 550
 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
 virtual alias table (in reply to RCPT TO command)
 
 that came from the README from livna (F9) but it may very well be that
 videolan.org discontinued mail list as they do have a wiki...
 http://wiki.videolan.org/Main_Page

 and forums
 http://forum.videolan.org/

 and it's a live/robust project

 Craig

If you want to join the libdvdcss mailing list go here:
http://mailman.videolan.org/listinfo/libdvdcss-devel

Videolan mailing list is here: http://mailman.videolan.org/listinfo

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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-18 Thread Bill Davidsen

Alessandro Boggiano wrote:

Antonio M ha scritto:

2008/10/17 Arch Willingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




DVD are not going to be seen any more??? Bill, still there


Ciao Antonio,
a simply fast search on google is pointing me to:
http://rpmforge.net/user/packages/libdvdcss/

Please, don't forget laws are different from contry to country; so don't 
pretend that entire world acts like the Italian country! (Thanks to God! 
;) )
Anyhow, if Fedora does't feed our needs, we are plenty of options in the 
Linux world! ;)


Freedom is good, but we have to respect the law (even if it 
stupid,sometimes)


That's not correct. We have to obey the law, respect is not required. As Stalin 
said I do not care that they hate, as long as they fear.


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RE: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-17 Thread Arch Willingham
I don't see where anyone answered youI am wondering the same thing.

Arch

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Subject: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

I read that rpmfusion, formerly livna, will no longer provide libdvdcss. I have 
always religiously installed it.

Does this mean that it will no longer be possible to play DVDs in Fedora? I 
don't rip or copy DVDs, just watch them, so would I actually need libdvdcss?

Do other programs now provide the functionality formerly provided by libdvdcss?

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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-17 Thread Antonio M
2008/10/17 Arch Willingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I don't see where anyone answered youI am wondering the same thing.

 Arch

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 Subject: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

 I read that rpmfusion, formerly livna, will no longer provide libdvdcss. I 
 have always religiously installed it.

 Does this mean that it will no longer be possible to play DVDs in Fedora? I 
 don't rip or copy DVDs, just watch them, so would I actually need libdvdcss?

 Do other programs now provide the functionality formerly provided by 
 libdvdcss?

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DVD are not going to be seen any more??? Bill, still there

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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-17 Thread Steve Repo
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/10/17 Arch Willingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I don't see where anyone answered youI am wondering the same thing.

 Arch

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 Subject: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

 I read that rpmfusion, formerly livna, will no longer provide libdvdcss. I 
 have always religiously installed it.

 Does this mean that it will no longer be possible to play DVDs in Fedora? I 
 don't rip or copy DVDs, just watch them, so would I actually need libdvdcss?

 Do other programs now provide the functionality formerly provided by 
 libdvdcss?

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 DVD are not going to be seen any more??? Bill, still there


I wonder what triggered this now about libdvdcss??

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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-17 Thread Alessandro Boggiano

Antonio M ha scritto:

2008/10/17 Arch Willingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




DVD are not going to be seen any more??? Bill, still there


Ciao Antonio,
a simply fast search on google is pointing me to:
http://rpmforge.net/user/packages/libdvdcss/

Please, don't forget laws are different from contry to country; so don't 
pretend that entire world acts like the Italian country! (Thanks to God! 
;) )
Anyhow, if Fedora does't feed our needs, we are plenty of options in the 
Linux world! ;)


Freedom is good, but we have to respect the law (even if it 
stupid,sometimes)


Ciao
Ale


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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-16 Thread Rex Dieter
kwhiskerz wrote:

 I read that rpmfusion, formerly livna, will no longer provide libdvdcss. I
 have always religiously installed it.
 
 Does this mean that it will no longer be possible to play DVDs in Fedora?
 I don't rip or copy DVDs, just watch them, so would I actually need
 libdvdcss?

Yes, you would still need it, but you'd need to get it elsewhere.

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Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-16 Thread kwhiskerz
Rex Dieter wrote:

 
 Yes, you would still need it, but you'd need to get it elsewhere.
 
I thought that's what the nonfree repo is for! So, will there be another 
nonfree repo, or will there still be a livna apart from rpmfusion?

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