Re: Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-30 Thread Bill Davidsen

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Bill,
Last year my daughter bought me a Sony Handicam DCR-SR42 for 
Christmas.  It has a 30GB hard drive in it, and a USB connection.  My 
laptop recognized it right away and mounted it as a USB hard drive 
device.  I can access the the stored videos (MPGs) (in a simial method 
to accessing my SONY still camera's JPGs) and access them directly.

I even learned how to burn the MPGs to a DVD with a script.
Does your videocam not have any local storage on it?  For me, the 
trick was in knowing where to look for the videos after Linux mounted 
the device

/media/disk/mp_root/101pnv01/
holds all of the .mpg files and
/media/disk/dcim/101msdcf/
holds all of my .jpg files



Yes, the local storage is a tape drive. And given that the camera has 
only a dozen hours of use in five years, I have a hard time justifying 
an upgrade. It's totally adequate for the intended use as an easy to use 
movie camera for a non-camera person. I'd like to get data out pre 
split, I can split it if absolutely necessary. :-(


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Re: Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-30 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Bill Davidsen wrote:


Yes, the local storage is a tape drive. And given that the camera has 
only a dozen hours of use in five years, I have a hard time justifying 
an upgrade. It's totally adequate for the intended use as an easy to use 
movie camera for a non-camera person. I'd like to get data out pre 
split, I can split it if absolutely necessary. :-(


OK Bill,
	You got me interested enough that I went to the SONY WWW site and I 
found the use manual for your camera:


http://www.docs.sony.com/release/DCRTRV260.pdf

It mentions that your camera has the following 3 options:

	A/V out.  I'm not sure if this is 1 cable with lots of connectors, or 
many cables, but supposedly it can play to the standard RCA inputs on 
your VCR (or to an MPEG encoder video capture card).
I own a Happauge PVR-350 and use it to record TV directly from my analog 
cable input, but this card (and others like it) are also capable of 
recording from an A/V input or even from an S-Video input.  And since it 
contains an MPEG-2 encoder on the card, the result is an MPEG stream 
that you can write directly to an .mpg file if you so desire.  I've even 
used a fairly simple script to transcode the .mpg files to a format 
suitable for burning onto DVDs.  If your input is clean (digital 
quality), so should your capture be as well.  You've already mentioned 
that you don't think you want to do an NTSC capture, so that leaves:


	i.LNK in/out.  The manual states that your i.lnk port is better known 
as ieee1394 (which is firewire).  It also claims that this is a DV port. 
 So, do you have a firewire capture on your computer?  dvgrab is 
supposed to be able to capture firewire input for you.  Perhaps a 
firewire PCI card could help?  My laptop has an ieee1394a port, but not 
everyone does.


	USB jack.  Here the manual states that the USB jack can be used with a 
program on your application disk.  It calls the output a USB stream. 
This strongly suggests that one of the previously suggested solutions 
(like kino or dvgrab) might be able to be used to capture the stream 
directly if the program supports using the USB connection for input. 
The dvgrab man page doesn't mention any support for capturing from USB 
(seems silly though as USB and firewire are used similarly in this 
regard, but the hardware is very different).  What you need is some 
software to read the stream from the USB port (similar to dvgrab) and 
provide an interface (like /dev/video0) that you can then use to save 
the stream to disk like my video capture card does.


I hope this helps!

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Re: Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Gene Heskett wrote:

On Monday 25 August 2008, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Mark Haney wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

g wrote:


Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem.

Have you tried Kino?  It's a KDE app, but it works in GNOME and Ive
successfully used it to pull raw video data from a Sony camcorder via
USB.  It's slower than the firewire connection on my laptop, but it
still works pretty well.

Just back in town after a week out of state w/ no net connection (and
little cell coverage). I am relaxed but busy, and will try some of this
later this week. I would like the importing software to break the
various recorded sessions into separate files, all else is easy.

Kino, when importing from the camera over firewire, does exactly that when it 
detects a scene change.


It's the when importing from firewire that bothers me, I would hope 
that happens with USB as well, since the camera doesn't do firewire.



I'll let you know.




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Re: Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-26 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Bill,
	Last year my daughter bought me a Sony Handicam DCR-SR42 for Christmas. 
 It has a 30GB hard drive in it, and a USB connection.  My laptop 
recognized it right away and mounted it as a USB hard drive device.  I 
can access the the stored videos (MPGs) (in a simial method to accessing 
my SONY still camera's JPGs) and access them directly.

I even learned how to burn the MPGs to a DVD with a script.
	Does your videocam not have any local storage on it?  For me, the trick 
was in knowing where to look for the videos after Linux mounted the 
device

/media/disk/mp_root/101pnv01/
holds all of the .mpg files and
/media/disk/dcim/101msdcf/
holds all of my .jpg files

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Re: Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-25 Thread Bill Davidsen

Mark Haney wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

g wrote:




Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem.



Have you tried Kino?  It's a KDE app, but it works in GNOME and Ive 
successfully used it to pull raw video data from a Sony camcorder via 
USB.  It's slower than the firewire connection on my laptop, but it 
still works pretty well.


Just back in town after a week out of state w/ no net connection (and 
little cell coverage). I am relaxed but busy, and will try some of this 
later this week. I would like the importing software to break the 
various recorded sessions into separate files, all else is easy.


I'll let you know.

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Re: Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 August 2008, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
 Bill Davidsen wrote:
 g wrote:


 Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem.

 Have you tried Kino?  It's a KDE app, but it works in GNOME and Ive
 successfully used it to pull raw video data from a Sony camcorder via
 USB.  It's slower than the firewire connection on my laptop, but it
 still works pretty well.

Just back in town after a week out of state w/ no net connection (and
little cell coverage). I am relaxed but busy, and will try some of this
later this week. I would like the importing software to break the
various recorded sessions into separate files, all else is easy.

Kino, when importing from the camera over firewire, does exactly that when it 
detects a scene change.

I'll let you know.

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Re: Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-14 Thread g
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Bill Davidsen wrote:
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 The site you provide is awesome, and I have all manner of uses for the 
 software, but it's really not related to controlling a DV camera in 
 playback mode through a USB connection, AFAIK. If the connection were 
 Firewire there is a plethora of available software, but it isn't.

for coffin to have come up with 'dcraw' and it have ability to do what it does,
i would think that it could also be used with a 'usb' connection instead of,
'firewire'.

i may be wrong. but if i had need, i would definitely contact him before i
gave up on it.

kino is another possibility, as mark henry stated. choice is yours.

 Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem.

was 'usb' available at time he wrote 'dcraw'?

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Re: Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-12 Thread g
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Bill Davidsen wrote:
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 Any thoughts on getting data out of this without huge loss
 of picture quality?

have you considered 'dcraw'?
  http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/


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Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
I have a video camera, TRV-260, which works nicely and has the Sony IR 
low light capability. It also has USB rather than Firewire for 
connectivity. Any thoughts on getting data out of this without huge loss 
of picture quality?


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