Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
part of a 'live sculpture' project.

The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
later.

She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.

Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I was able to see the video on F9 however no sound.  On F11 I get nothing.
On F9 it seems mplayer and totem are the only applications I have been able
to use to hear sound.  Firefox  and rythmbox generate no sound.  On F11 it's
the same thing it seems mplayer is the only app that actually plays sound.
Firefox 3.5 wont play sound.  This all used to work just fine once.

Paolo

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:32 AM, David Boles  wrote:

> I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
> part of a 'live sculpture' project.
>
> The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
> later.
>
> She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
> view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
>
> Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
>
> Any suggestions?
>
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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Frank Murphy

On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote:

I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
part of a 'live sculpture' project.

The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
later.

She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.

Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot

Any suggestions?




It plays fine in FF with Sound

use wget to grab the *swf

PackageKit should then prompt to install\find correct codecs.

If you can get it playing you may be able to then capture it as a theora 
video?


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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Frank Murphy

On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote:

Try firefox add-ons:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6541

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote:
>> I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
>> part of a 'live sculpture' project.
>>
>> The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
>> later.
>>
>> She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
>> view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
>>
>> Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>>
> 
> It plays fine in FF with Sound
> 
> use wget to grab the *swf
> 
> PackageKit should then prompt to install\find correct codecs.
> 
> If you can get it playing you may be able to then capture it as a theora
> video?


I guess that I was not clear here.  :-)  I can view and hear the feed
just fine.

I am trying to capture it.

wget? How? There is, or does not appear to be, any visible URL
associated with the video feed on display.


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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Frank Murphy

On 27/07/09 17:19, Frank Murphy wrote:

On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote:

Try firefox add-ons:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6541



http://www.oneandother.co.uk/flowplayer/flowplayer.commercial-3.1.1.swf?0.605755713305492

If you use firefox, second button click over some text.
View page info > Media > scroll for swf?...>
Click save as

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 12:48 -0400, David Boles wrote:
> I am trying to capture it.
>  
> wget? How? There is, or does not appear to be, any visible URL
> associated with the video feed on display.

If you use the FlashBlock plugin for Firefox, any blocked Flash content
has a right-click option to copy the location (web address) for it.

For un-obscured media in a page, Firefox's page info pop-up lists the
different content.

And there are download helper plugins that help you to save various
things from a page.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 27/07/09 17:19, Frank Murphy wrote:
>> On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote:
>>
>> Try firefox add-ons:
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6541
>>
> 
> http://www.oneandother.co.uk/flowplayer/flowplayer.commercial-3.1.1.swf?0.605755713305492
> 
> 
> If you use firefox, second button click over some text.
> View page info > Media > scroll for swf?...>
> Click save as
> 


Did you actually try this Frank?  :-)

I seriously doubt that a one hour capture of a streaming video would
only be 106k in length.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Frank Murphy

On 27/07/09 19:25, David Boles wrote:




Did you actually try this Frank?  :-)

I seriously doubt that a one hour capture of a streaming video would
only be 106k in length.

But thanks for the suggestion(s)




No, rarely watch video (on PC)

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 12:48 -0400, David Boles wrote:
>> I am trying to capture it.
>>  
>> wget? How? There is, or does not appear to be, any visible URL
>> associated with the video feed on display.
> 
> If you use the FlashBlock plugin for Firefox, any blocked Flash content
> has a right-click option to copy the location (web address) for it.
> 
> For un-obscured media in a page, Firefox's page info pop-up lists the
> different content.
> 
> And there are download helper plugins that help you to save various
> things from a page.


Flash block is/was disabled. Actually Adblock Plus was alos a problem. I
have tried all of the Firefox extensions.

As I said before - I can view and hear the video feed but I can find no
way to download it.


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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Frank Murphy

On 27/07/09 19:33, David Boles wrote:



Maybe?
http://www.eglug.org/node/2079



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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote:
> I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
> part of a 'live sculpture' project.
>
> The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
> later.
>
> She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
> view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
>
> Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
>
Wow! It plays in Konqueror!  Amazing!

> Any suggestions?

http://www.captureyoutube.net/ looks as though it would help.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 July 2009 16:42:26 Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> I was able to see the video on F9 however no sound.  On F11 I get nothing.
> On F9 it seems mplayer and totem are the only applications I have been able
> to use to hear sound.  Firefox  and rythmbox generate no sound.  On F11
> it's the same thing it seems mplayer is the only app that actually plays
> sound. Firefox 3.5 wont play sound.  This all used to work just fine onc

In Konqueror (F11) I could see the video, but if sound was there it was 
minimal - I'm not certain.  In Firefox (3.5.1) I could both see and hear it.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 14:33 -0400, David Boles wrote:
> Flash block is/was disabled.

You could re-enable it for a moment, then you get the useful right-click
option on the blocked content.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 14:33 -0400, David Boles wrote:
>> Flash block is/was disabled.
> 
> You could re-enable it for a moment, then you get the useful right-click
> option on the blocked content.


Useful for what? Nothing in the blockable items list is the link to the
video.

Flash Block was not stopping the original viewing. The viewing works
with Flash Block enabled and with an 'exception' for the site.

Adblock was what stopped the viewing originally. The only URL there is
an advertisement that leads to the video. The URL for the video is
hidden in some way. It 'looks' like Java script.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 27/07/09 19:33, David Boles wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe?
> http://www.eglug.org/node/2079


Looks interesting. I'll try this when I get home tonight.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote:
>> I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
>> part of a 'live sculpture' project.
>>
>> The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
>> later.
>>
>> She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
>> view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
>>
>> Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
>>
> Wow! It plays in Konqueror!  Amazing!
> 
>> Any suggestions?
> 
> http://www.captureyoutube.net/ looks as though it would help.

That is a very interesting site. Thanks.

But it will only help if you can also come up with the URL to the actual
video too.  :-)


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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 July 2009 21:11:36 David Boles wrote:
> Tim wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 14:33 -0400, David Boles wrote:
> >> Flash block is/was disabled.
> >
> > You could re-enable it for a moment, then you get the useful right-click
> > option on the blocked content.
>
> Useful for what? Nothing in the blockable items list is the link to the
> video.
>
> Flash Block was not stopping the original viewing. The viewing works
> with Flash Block enabled and with an 'exception' for the site.
>
> Adblock was what stopped the viewing originally. The only URL there is
> an advertisement that leads to the video. The URL for the video is
> hidden in some way. It 'looks' like Java script.

I had the same problem a while ago with a cnn video.  I couldn't understand 
why adblock was the problem, but it was.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 July 2009 21:12:30 David Boles wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote:
> >> I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
> >> part of a 'live sculpture' project.
> >>
> >> The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
> >> later.
> >>
> >> She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
> >> view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
> >>
> >> Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
> >
> > Wow! It plays in Konqueror!  Amazing!
> >
> >> Any suggestions?
> >
> > http://www.captureyoutube.net/ looks as though it would help.
>
> That is a very interesting site. Thanks.
>
> But it will only help if you can also come up with the URL to the actual
> video too.  :-)

Looking at the source, the clue may be here:

level3: {
url: '/flowplayer/flowplayer.rtmp-3.1.0.swf',
netConnectionUrl: 
'rtmp://bskybartsfs.fplive.net/bskybarts'
}
}

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 July 2009 19:43:49 Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2009 16:42:26 Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > I was able to see the video on F9 however no sound.  On F11 I get
> > nothing. On F9 it seems mplayer and totem are the only applications I
> > have been able to use to hear sound.  Firefox  and rythmbox generate no
> > sound.  On F11 it's the same thing it seems mplayer is the only app that
> > actually plays sound. Firefox 3.5 wont play sound.  This all used to work
> > just fine onc
>
> In Konqueror (F11) I could see the video, but if sound was there it was
> minimal - I'm not certain.  In Firefox (3.5.1) I could both see and hear
> it.
>
I have the sound in konqueror now.  I've been checking the levels in 
pavucontrol, so I assume that something there has made the difference.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2009 21:11:36 David Boles wrote:
>> Tim wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 14:33 -0400, David Boles wrote:
 Flash block is/was disabled.
>>> You could re-enable it for a moment, then you get the useful right-click
>>> option on the blocked content.
>> Useful for what? Nothing in the blockable items list is the link to the
>> video.
>>
>> Flash Block was not stopping the original viewing. The viewing works
>> with Flash Block enabled and with an 'exception' for the site.
>>
>> Adblock was what stopped the viewing originally. The only URL there is
>> an advertisement that leads to the video. The URL for the video is
>> hidden in some way. It 'looks' like Java script.
> 
> I had the same problem a while ago with a cnn video.  I couldn't understand 
> why adblock was the problem, but it was.


The script that starts the video has a commercial in it (ad) and if it
does not run the script is stopped before it get to were the video starts.


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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2009 21:12:30 David Boles wrote:
>> Anne Wilson wrote:
>>> On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote:
 I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
 part of a 'live sculpture' project.

 The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
 later.

 She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
 view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.

 Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
>>> Wow! It plays in Konqueror!  Amazing!
>>>
 Any suggestions?
>>> http://www.captureyoutube.net/ looks as though it would help.
>> That is a very interesting site. Thanks.
>>
>> But it will only help if you can also come up with the URL to the actual
>> video too.  :-)
> 
> Looking at the source, the clue may be here:
> 
> level3: {
> url: '/flowplayer/flowplayer.rtmp-3.1.0.swf',
> netConnectionUrl: 
> 'rtmp://bskybartsfs.fplive.net/bskybarts'
> }
> }


None of those are actual URLs to the video. Of all of these the largest
was 160k. I doubt that a full hour of audio and video would be that
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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread suvayu ali
2009/7/27 David Boles :
 On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote:
> I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
> part of a 'live sculpture' project.
>
> The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
> later.
>
> She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
> view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
>
> Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
<.>
> None of those are actual URLs to the video. Of all of these the largest
> was 160k. I doubt that a full hour of audio and video would be that
> small.  ;-)

I think you are misjudging the situation. The stream seems to be a
live stream. If that is the case, then there is _no_ file. The only
way to grab something like that would be with a script using mplayer
or vlc. I don't know how to do that, but that seems to be the only
possible solution. I think someone posted an mplayer script to do
something like this a few months back, but in that case it was _not_ a
flash stream. Maybe the archives will help you here.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
suvayu ali wrote:
> 2009/7/27 David Boles :
> On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote:
>> I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
>> part of a 'live sculpture' project.
>>
>> The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
>> later.
>>
>> She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
>> view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
>>
>> Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
> <.>
>> None of those are actual URLs to the video. Of all of these the largest
>> was 160k. I doubt that a full hour of audio and video would be that
>> small.  ;-)
> 
> I think you are misjudging the situation. The stream seems to be a
> live stream. If that is the case, then there is _no_ file. The only
> way to grab something like that would be with a script using mplayer
> or vlc. I don't know how to do that, but that seems to be the only
> possible solution. I think someone posted an mplayer script to do
> something like this a few months back, but in that case it was _not_ a
> flash stream. Maybe the archives will help you here.


Read what I have written very, very carefully. The video was recorded
during the hour that she was on the pedestal. That was Sunday afternoon
in London. Early Sunday morning here. If you go to the link I posted you
can watch the video of what was originally displayed live now.

Which means? There is a recording and I am still trying to get the link
to the recorded video for her which is in these archives.


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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-28 Thread Frank Murphy

On 28/07/09 02:19, David Boles wrote:




Which means? There is a recording and I am still trying to get the link
to the recorded video for her which is in these archives.




If you use the player, they appear to be using?
http://flowplayer.org/

And looking at the logo on the video,
the video may be archived on their site?

Maybe someone can point you how to follow
the route back to the video from a command line.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 28 July 2009 01:56:37 suvayu ali wrote:
> 2009/7/27 David Boles :
>  On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote:
> > I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square
> > as part of a 'live sculpture' project.
> >
> > The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be
> > viewed later.
> >
> > She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
> > view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
> >
> > Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
>
> <.>
>
> > None of those are actual URLs to the video. Of all of these the largest
> > was 160k. I doubt that a full hour of audio and video would be that
> > small.  ;-)
>
> I think you are misjudging the situation. The stream seems to be a
> live stream. If that is the case, then there is _no_ file. The only
> way to grab something like that would be with a script using mplayer
> or vlc. I don't know how to do that, but that seems to be the only
> possible solution. I think someone posted an mplayer script to do
> something like this a few months back, but in that case it was _not_ a
> flash stream. Maybe the archives will help you here.
>
That's ringing bells.  Before people started writing plugins to capture 
youtube video I remember that someone wrote about identifying the temporary 
file that is created, and saving that.  Unfortunately I can't remember the 
details, so I hope this will remind someone with a better memory.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 28 July 2009 09:24:51 Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 July 2009 01:56:37 suvayu ali wrote:
> > 2009/7/27 David Boles :
> >  On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote:
> > > I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar
> > > Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project.
> > >
> > > The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be
> > > viewed later.
> > >
> > > She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer
> > > to view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
> > >
> > > Video located here: 
> > > http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
> >
> > <.>
> >
> > > None of those are actual URLs to the video. Of all of these the largest
> > > was 160k. I doubt that a full hour of audio and video would be that
> > > small.  ;-)
> >
> > I think you are misjudging the situation. The stream seems to be a
> > live stream. If that is the case, then there is _no_ file. The only
> > way to grab something like that would be with a script using mplayer
> > or vlc. I don't know how to do that, but that seems to be the only
> > possible solution. I think someone posted an mplayer script to do
> > something like this a few months back, but in that case it was _not_ a
> > flash stream. Maybe the archives will help you here.
>
> That's ringing bells.  Before people started writing plugins to capture
> youtube video I remember that someone wrote about identifying the temporary
> file that is created, and saving that.  Unfortunately I can't remember the
> details, so I hope this will remind someone with a better memory.

That's the easiest trick in the book --- when you click to play a YouTube 
video, the browser downloads the data in /tmp directory with a name of the 
type Flash (eg. FlashSjfdEf or such). You simply watch the download 
progress indicator below the picture, and once it is completed, pause the 
movie, go to /tmp directory and "cp Flash* ~" to get it in your home 
directory. Later on you can play it in mplayer or so.

This technique is very easy and Just Works, I use it on a daily basis.

Of course, you might happen to have more than one Flash* file in /tmp, but I 
typically copy them all, and later on examine which one I need.

Not sure if this will work for the OP, though.

HTH, :-)
Marko


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Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-28 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 12:31 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Of course, you might happen to have more than one Flash* file in /tmp,
> but I typically copy them all, and later on examine which one I need.

ls -rlt /tmp

And no, the temp file trick doesn't with all services, including one
currently being discussed on this list, some don't make temporary files
in /tmp.

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Re: Streaming video capture problem - SOLVED

2009-07-29 Thread David Boles
David Boles wrote:
> I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as
> part of a 'live sculpture' project.
> 
> The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed
> later.
> 
> She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to
> view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video.
> 
> Video located here:  http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot
> 
> Any suggestions?


A friend, offline, suggested xvidcap. I had no luck with that as it
seriously crashed my system several times between 10 minutes and 25
minutes into the screen capture. Crashed seriously enough that it took
the reset button to recover.


First the *good* news first.  :-)

A work partner of my son captured this and converted it into a European
format DVD for me.

Now the *bad* news. Problem solved but not with Linux.  :-(
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