Re: installation from boot.iso on a usb stick
Andras Simon wrote: > > Is this possible? Or only the live cd can be transferred to a usb drive? > > I like what > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ch-new-users.html#sn-which-files > says about installing from boot.iso, but if that requires a "real cd", > then I won't be able to do it. > > Worth having a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#How_to_Make_a_bootable_USB_Drive_to_Install_Fedora_11_instead_of_using_a_physical_DVD -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/installation-from-boot.iso-on-a-usb-stick-tp27082441p27090133.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
installation from boot.iso on a usb stick
Is this possible? Or only the live cd can be transferred to a usb drive? I like what http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ch-new-users.html#sn-which-files says about installing from boot.iso, but if that requires a "real cd", then I won't be able to do it. By using livecd-iso-to-disk and some manual copying of the images from boot.iso to a usb stick, I got as far as the partitioning, but then I got this: Missing ISO 9660 image. The installer has tried to mount image #1, but cannot find it on the hard drive. Please copy this image to the drive and click Retry. Is there a way to tell the installer to install the packages from the repositories? Andras -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f12 gnome usb stick automount fails
Hi, I have an usb stick of size 8GB. It was given a label with dosfslabel. After a while fc12 under gnome failed to automount under the usual /media/. This happens only to one usb stick. I checked it using fsck.vfat while repairing possible filesystem errors. What's wrong? BTW: Next information possibly has nothing to do with my problem. I have this device is on sdc (sdc1 vfat, sdX X>=c) and i have a vodafone composite 3G modem + microSD reader connected. The microSD reader occupies the sdb although there is no card in it. Thanks, Robert -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora-12 from USB stick
On Thursday 10 December 2009, David A. De Graaf wrote: >On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:30:04PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] >If the BIOS fails to list the memory stick as a hard drive, you're out >of luck, I'm afraid. > If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any at all... >Here, for the record, are my notes on how to create a bootable memory >stick that's equivalent to the installation DVD. It's a bit more >intricate than you've described. > > >*** Update for F12 - 11/20/09 *** > >It's much easier to install Fedora from a bootable USB memory stick >that contains the DVD iso image than burning an actual DVD disk. >Previously, I was able to squeeze both the i386 and x86_64 iso images >onto a single 8 GB stick, but it required editing the images to delete >irrelevant foreign language components. With F12 I gave up and put >each system on a separate USB stick. > >Here's what I did: > >1) Download both images: > i386: > -rw-r--r-- 1 dad dad 1511 Nov 12 01:23 Fedora-12-i386-CHECKSUM > -rw-r--r-- 1 dad dad 3204427776 Nov 8 19:02 Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso > > x86_64: > -rw-rw-r-- 1 dad dad 1525 Nov 12 01:24 Fedora-12-x86_64-CHECKSUM > -rw-rw-r-- 1 dad dad 3537600512 Nov 8 19:11 Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso > >and run sha256sum on each to verify they're correct. > > >2) Insert a USB stick to hold the 386 image and note the device name >assigned, eg, /dev/sdb. >Usefdisk /dev/sdb to create a single partition, /dev/sdb1, of type >Linux, and set it bootable. > >3) Make an ext2 filesystem on /dev/sdb1. To maximize the available >space, eliminate items that are customarily included in a filesystem: > >do NOT use -j to create a journal file >set the number of inodes to only 100 >set the reserved block percentage to 0 > mkfs.ext2 -N 100 -m 0 /dev/sdb1 > >4) Install a bootable mini-Linux by running livecd-iso-to-disk > livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --noverify Fedora-11-i386-DVD.iso > /dev/sdb1 > >5) Copy the install.img file and the big iso file >Create mount points for the iso and the USB partition. > mkdir /mnt/iso > mkdir /mnt/usb > > mount -o loop Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso/mnt/iso > mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb > mkdir /mnt/usb/images > cp /mnt/iso/images/install.img /mnt/usb/images/ > cp Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/usb/ > > umount /mnt/usb /mnt/iso >and remove the USB stick. > > >Repeat for the x86_64 version. > -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> Math is like love -- a simple idea but it can get complicated. -- R. Drabek -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora-12 from USB stick
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:30:04PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 07 December 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >I've been trying to install Fedora-12 from a memory stick > >to which I have transferred the KDE Live CD > >using livecd-iso-to-disk . > > > >The problem is that the ancient machine I am dealing with > >does not support booting from the USB stick. > > ... > >I should say that this is a purely theoretical experiment; > >I know there are many other ways I could install Fedora-12. > >But I installed F-12 on several other machines using the USB stick, > >and it would be useful to know if I could actually update > >all machines in this way. > > I wouldn't mind being able to do something similar myself. I have an 8Gb > stick with the F12 install iso on it, as a file at the instant, and my dvd > writer seems to have turned itself into a write only for dvd's but is still > reading cd's ok. However, this asus bios I have not seen a boot from usb > option in its boot menu's. Any ideas as to how to proceed? On all my machines that are capable of booting from a USB memory stick the stick shows up as another hard disk. With a bootable stick inserted, reboot and enter the BIOS. Look for "hard drive boot priority", or something like that. You may see the memory stick listed, but (stupidly) it's usually the last item listed. If you move it up to first position and save, it'll boot from it. Sadly, after you remove it and reinsert it, the BIOS will usually revert to using it last. (What goes thru the minds of BIOS coders?) If the BIOS fails to list the memory stick as a hard drive, you're out of luck, I'm afraid. Here, for the record, are my notes on how to create a bootable memory stick that's equivalent to the installation DVD. It's a bit more intricate than you've described. *** Update for F12 - 11/20/09 *** It's much easier to install Fedora from a bootable USB memory stick that contains the DVD iso image than burning an actual DVD disk. Previously, I was able to squeeze both the i386 and x86_64 iso images onto a single 8 GB stick, but it required editing the images to delete irrelevant foreign language components. With F12 I gave up and put each system on a separate USB stick. Here's what I did: 1) Download both images: i386: -rw-r--r-- 1 dad dad 1511 Nov 12 01:23 Fedora-12-i386-CHECKSUM -rw-r--r-- 1 dad dad 3204427776 Nov 8 19:02 Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso x86_64: -rw-rw-r-- 1 dad dad 1525 Nov 12 01:24 Fedora-12-x86_64-CHECKSUM -rw-rw-r-- 1 dad dad 3537600512 Nov 8 19:11 Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso and run sha256sum on each to verify they're correct. 2) Insert a USB stick to hold the 386 image and note the device name assigned, eg, /dev/sdb. Usefdisk /dev/sdb to create a single partition, /dev/sdb1, of type Linux, and set it bootable. 3) Make an ext2 filesystem on /dev/sdb1. To maximize the available space, eliminate items that are customarily included in a filesystem: do NOT use -j to create a journal file set the number of inodes to only 100 set the reserved block percentage to 0 mkfs.ext2 -N 100 -m 0 /dev/sdb1 4) Install a bootable mini-Linux by running livecd-iso-to-disk livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --noverify Fedora-11-i386-DVD.iso /dev/sdb1 5) Copy the install.img file and the big iso file Create mount points for the iso and the USB partition. mkdir /mnt/iso mkdir /mnt/usb mount -o loop Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso/mnt/iso mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb mkdir /mnt/usb/images cp /mnt/iso/images/install.img /mnt/usb/images/ cp Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/usb/ umount /mnt/usb /mnt/iso and remove the USB stick. Repeat for the x86_64 version. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora-12 from USB stick
On Monday 07 December 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: >I've been trying to install Fedora-12 from a memory stick >to which I have transferred the KDE Live CD >using livecd-iso-to-disk . > >The problem is that the ancient machine I am dealing with >does not support booting from the USB stick. > >So following advice here, I transferred vmlinuz0 and initrd0.img >from the stick to the hard disk, >and added a stanza to grub to boot from this: >--- >title Upgrade to Fedora-12 >root (hd0,1) >kernel /syslinux/vmlinuz0 root=/dev/sdc2 >initrd /syslinux/initrd0.img >--- >Here /dev/sdc2 is the relevant partition on the memory stick. > >This works up to a point; >but it fails (after entering the interactive stage) >when trying to check the partitions, presumably with fsck . >In particular the check on the boot partition is said to fail, >even though it boots perfectly well with this partition under F-11. > >I don't understand where it gets a list of partitions to check - >it seems to be using /etc/fstab from the Fedora-11 system, >which seems illogical to me. > >In any case, my query is: Is there any way of adding something >to the grub kernel line to stop partition checking? > >Or is there some other trick I could apply? > >I should say that this is a purely theoretical experiment; >I know there are many other ways I could install Fedora-12. >But I installed F-12 on several other machines using the USB stick, >and it would be useful to know if I could actually update >all machines in this way. I wouldn't mind being able to do something similar myself. I have an 8Gb stick with the F12 install iso on it, as a file at the instant, and my dvd writer seems to have turned itself into a write only for dvd's but is still reading cd's ok. However, this asus bios I have not seen a boot from usb option in its boot menu's. Any ideas as to how to proceed? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> Armstrong's Collection Law: If the check is truly in the mail, it is surely made out to someone else. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Installing Fedora-12 from USB stick
I've been trying to install Fedora-12 from a memory stick to which I have transferred the KDE Live CD using livecd-iso-to-disk . The problem is that the ancient machine I am dealing with does not support booting from the USB stick. So following advice here, I transferred vmlinuz0 and initrd0.img from the stick to the hard disk, and added a stanza to grub to boot from this: --- title Upgrade to Fedora-12 root (hd0,1) kernel /syslinux/vmlinuz0 root=/dev/sdc2 initrd /syslinux/initrd0.img --- Here /dev/sdc2 is the relevant partition on the memory stick. This works up to a point; but it fails (after entering the interactive stage) when trying to check the partitions, presumably with fsck . In particular the check on the boot partition is said to fail, even though it boots perfectly well with this partition under F-11. I don't understand where it gets a list of partitions to check - it seems to be using /etc/fstab from the Fedora-11 system, which seems illogical to me. In any case, my query is: Is there any way of adding something to the grub kernel line to stop partition checking? Or is there some other trick I could apply? I should say that this is a purely theoretical experiment; I know there are many other ways I could install Fedora-12. But I installed F-12 on several other machines using the USB stick, and it would be useful to know if I could actually update all machines in this way. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora-12 from USB stick
On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 15:17 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I found that the mystery UUID > actually refers to the partition which is the new / . > So installing Fedora-12 on this partition > changes its UUID, which I find slightly surprising - > I thought the whole point of these UUIDs > was that they never changed. That depends on the circumstances... Pull out drive UUID-whatever, plug it in somewhere else, or the same place at a later date, and that same UUID is applied to that drive. Plug in some other drive, and it'll have a different UUID, and shouldn't get confused with some other drive, if you unplugged one and plugged another into the same port. Reformat a drive, and it's probably going to get a new one, unless the formatting routine noted the old one, beforehand, and restored it. You probably will be reformatting during an install. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora-12 from USB stick
Timothy Murphy wrote: > However, I find that when I add my old grub.conf entries for Fedora-11 > to my new grub.conf , I am unable to boot Fedora-11 . > (I'm also unable to boot it if I run grub interactively.) > The error I get is: > fsck.ext4: unable to resolve UUID=66c3...699e . > > I cannot work out what this UUID represents. > It does not appear to be the old or the new / partition. > I thought it might be the memory stick, > but replacing this did not help. To reply to myself, I found that the mystery UUID actually refers to the partition which is the new / . So installing Fedora-12 on this partition changes its UUID, which I find slightly surprising - I thought the whole point of these UUIDs was that they never changed. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora-12 from USB stick
sudo blkid -c /dev/null -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora-12 from USB stick
I installed the Fedora-12 KDE Live CD on a USB memory stick: - t...@rose Download]$ sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr Fedora-12-i686-Live- KDE.iso /dev/sdb2 ... The media check is complete, the result is: PASS. It is OK to use this media. Copying live image to USB stick ... USB stick set up as live image! - I then ran this on my Thinkpad T43, and clicked to Transfer to Hard Disk. This has worked more or less perfectly, to date. One slight problem is that I installed Fedora-12 / on /dev/sda7 , leaving Fedora-11 / on /dev/sda3 (with /boot on /dev/sda2 and /home on /dev/sda5). However, I find that when I add my old grub.conf entries for Fedora-11 to my new grub.conf , I am unable to boot Fedora-11 . (I'm also unable to boot it if I run grub interactively.) The error I get is: fsck.ext4: unable to resolve UUID=66c3...699e . I cannot work out what this UUID represents. It does not appear to be the old or the new / partition. I thought it might be the memory stick, but replacing this did not help. How can one find what a UUID represents? Or conversely, how can one find the UUID of a partition? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Mounting USB stick or CDROM suddenly need root password
Rick Wagner wrote: > Any thoughts on this? Looks like ConsoleKit is not working for you. How are you logging in? GDM? KDM? Text mode? Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11: Mounting USB stick or CDROM suddenly need root password
This worked after I originally installed Fedora 11: If I plugged in a USB stick or inserted a CD/DVD ROM, the new device notifier would inform me, and allow me to open in Dolphin (as well as other choices). If I selected the "Open in Dolphin", it would do just that. As of recently, when I try to open, a dialog pops up asking for root password. Same when I select "Safely remove". If I enter the password, things proceed as desired. This behavior appears to shown up about the time I had sound permission problems. Resolved the sound problem by modifying security/console.perms.d/50-default.perms to add: =/dev/snd/* 0600 0600 root These same two behaviors (sound and mount) showed up for me mid-life in Fedora-8 too. The same fix resolved the sound problems then, and I lived with entering the root password for USB devices until I finally upgraded to F11. It was joy when device mounting worked again, however short lived. Any thoughts on this? --rick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: DVD installer on USB stick
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi If you downloaded the DVD image and want to install it from the USB key without burning it, read http://wtogami.livejournal.com/30245.html Very nice. What would it take to make it work with older ISO images, even non-Fedora images? For testing I sometimes install SuSE, OpenSolaris, etc, on a machine to compare behavior to Fedora on "bare iron" rather than virtual machines. Particularly if I suspect timing issues matter (or I'm actually measuring timing). -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
DVD installer on USB stick
Hi If you downloaded the DVD image and want to install it from the USB key without burning it, read http://wtogami.livejournal.com/30245.html Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 04:10 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > What's your point? F5 causes a status message to appear for a few > > seconds, after which it vanishes again. It makes no difference at all to > > the remount behaviour. > > The point is to press F5 after you remounted the drive. This makes sense if you remount using the Places menu from the existing window (rather stretching the meaning of "sense" since there's no reason it couldn't just refresh on its own). If you do it from the Notifier or from the Kickoff menu you get a new window, i.e. the visual end result of mounting the drive depends on how you do it. This is to my mind a bug, and the way to remove it is by a) closing the window when the drive is unmounted or b) re-opening the existing window when remounting, independantly of how this is done. (In this case the window should also refresh on its own, see above.) I would expect the easiest solution to implement would be (a) though I know you've said you don't like it. I also removes the ambiguity about whether or not a Dolphin window actually represents anything, which I think would be less confusing to the user. OT: Here's some more "interesting" behaviour. I have the Places menu detached from the main window (no particular reason, I was just playing with it once and left it that way). Now if the Places menu is not contiguous with the Dolphin window, moving the mouse cursor to the Places menu causes the latter to hide behind any other random window it happens to be on top of, making it impossible to click on without moving stuff out of the way. I can't decide if this is a bug or a feature. I have "focus follows mouse" if it matters. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > What's your point? F5 causes a status message to appear for a few > seconds, after which it vanishes again. It makes no difference at all to > the remount behaviour. The point is to press F5 after you remounted the drive. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 20:29 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 05 April 2009 19:30:11 Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > 1) As far as I can see, you can't remount the drive from the empty > > > window. You have to click on the notifier and select the mount option. > > > This then opens a *second* window. The first window adds no funcionality > > > whatever. > > > > Try reloading it (press F5). > > > I'm inclined to agree that it should not open another instance of dolphin > when > one is already open. Maybe it's time for a bug report, Patrick? Two for the time being: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188937 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188938 poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 20:30 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > 1) As far as I can see, you can't remount the drive from the empty > > window. You have to click on the notifier and select the mount option. > > This then opens a *second* window. The first window adds no funcionality > > whatever. > > Try reloading it (press F5). What's your point? F5 causes a status message to appear for a few seconds, after which it vanishes again. It makes no difference at all to the remount behaviour. BTW, why does it take F5 to get the message? Has Dolphin forgotten that I just unmounted the drive so it has to be told to check again? Is there some reason it can't keep the status visible to reduce the chance of user error? And another thing: using the notifier to mount the drive requires four mouse clicks (click notifier, click drive id, click to select app, click OK). Using the Kickoff menu requires two clicks and a hover (click Kickoff, hover to Computer, click drive id). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Sunday 05 April 2009 19:30:11 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > 1) As far as I can see, you can't remount the drive from the empty > > window. You have to click on the notifier and select the mount option. > > This then opens a *second* window. The first window adds no funcionality > > whatever. > > Try reloading it (press F5). > I'm inclined to agree that it should not open another instance of dolphin when one is already open. Maybe it's time for a bug report, Patrick? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > 1) As far as I can see, you can't remount the drive from the empty > window. You have to click on the notifier and select the mount option. > This then opens a *second* window. The first window adds no funcionality > whatever. Try reloading it (press F5). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 00:17 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > In fact it unmounts but doesn't disappear. IMHO this is seriously > > confusing to the average user. I posted about this (and a couple of > > other things) sometime yesterday but I haven't seen any feedback so far. > > It doesn't disappear because you can re-mount it. This is a feature. I hate > operating systems which force me to unplug and replug the device if I want > to mount it again for some reason. That's an interesting argument, which (at least here) fails for the following reasons: 1) As far as I can see, you can't remount the drive from the empty window. You have to click on the notifier and select the mount option. This then opens a *second* window. The first window adds no funcionality whatever. 2) There's almost no visual distinction between an empty pendrive and an unmounted one, though these two states are radically different. Note that I don't claim there is no distinction at all, but it's not obvious to the new user of Dolphin. 3) The presence of the window invites the user to drag and drop files onto it, which simply produces an error message. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > In fact it unmounts but doesn't disappear. IMHO this is seriously > confusing to the average user. I posted about this (and a couple of > other things) sometime yesterday but I haven't seen any feedback so far. It doesn't disappear because you can re-mount it. This is a feature. I hate operating systems which force me to unplug and replug the device if I want to mount it again for some reason. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 17:01 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Saturday 04 April 2009 12:46:12 Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Anne Wilson wrote: > > >> >> I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option > > >> >> in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, > > >> >> which I can click on before removing a USB stick. > > > > > > You can unmount it either from the dolphin Places panel or from the > > > Device Notifier. PoC says you can also umount it from kickoff. > > > > I don't seem able to unmount it from the Device Notifier. > > (Nor from the f-menu.) > > I have to go to the Dolphin window. > > > When you hover over the device name in Device Notifier you should see > something like an up-arrow inside a circle. Clicking on that should umount > it, and if it is displayed in dolphin you should see everything disappear. In fact it unmounts but doesn't disappear. IMHO this is seriously confusing to the average user. I posted about this (and a couple of other things) sometime yesterday but I haven't seen any feedback so far. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Of course, you are aware that "safely removing" is equivalent to unmounting, > right? I realise that that is the case under Fedora. I don't think it should be the case; I think "safely remove" should mean "umount" and "eject". -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
Anne Wilson wrote: > When you hover over the device name in Device Notifier you should see > something like an up-arrow inside a circle. Clicking on that should umount > it, and if it is displayed in dolphin you should see everything disappear. Thank you, I see that clicking on this circular icon does indeed umount the USB stick. I assumed it did nothing, since the only visible effect was that the circle disappeared. It would be nice if I was told, "You may safely remove your device", as Bill tells me. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Saturday 04 April 2009 12:46:12 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >> >> I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option > >> >> in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, > >> >> which I can click on before removing a USB stick. > > > > You can unmount it either from the dolphin Places panel or from the > > Device Notifier. PoC says you can also umount it from kickoff. > > I don't seem able to unmount it from the Device Notifier. > (Nor from the f-menu.) > I have to go to the Dolphin window. > When you hover over the device name in Device Notifier you should see something like an up-arrow inside a circle. Clicking on that should umount it, and if it is displayed in dolphin you should see everything disappear. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Saturday 04 April 2009 12:30:28 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > You can also hover over "Computer" in the Kicker menu (or whatever it's > > called now) and right-click on the "Removable Storage" icon. This works > > even without Dolphin. > > This doesn't seem to work for me. > If I go to f=>Applications->System=>Removable Media Utility [KwikDisk] > (which seems the only application with the word "removable" in it) > hovering over the 3-sphere icon does not seem to have any effect. > > Left clicking on the icon, and choosing "StartKdiskFree" > opens a window with various devices, including the USB stick, on it. > On clicking on the USB stick I am offered the option to "Unmount Device". > As far as I know, KwikDisk and StartKdiskFree are both KDE3 utilities. While many KDE3 applications run well on KDE4, the utilities generally don't. At least, that's my belief. > The only way to Safely Remove the stick as far as I can see > is to right-click on the name in the Dolphin window, > which can be opened either from the Device Notifier icon > or from the kicker menu (f=>Applications=>System=>File Manager). > > Your other suggestion, "eject /dev/sdb1", does indeed turn off the USB > stick. Thank you. > (The only way I could see to find that it is on /dev/sdb1 > was to say "mount".) > (or df :-) which is what I usually use. ) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Saturday 04 April 2009 13:30, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Left clicking on the icon, and choosing "StartKdiskFree" > opens a window with various devices, including the USB stick, on it. > On clicking on the USB stick I am offered the option to "Unmount Device". > > The only way to Safely Remove the stick as far as I can see > is to right-click on the name in the Dolphin window, Of course, you are aware that "safely removing" is equivalent to unmounting, right? Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
Anne Wilson wrote: >> >> I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option >> >> in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, >> >> which I can click on before removing a USB stick. > You can unmount it either from the dolphin Places panel or from the Device > Notifier. PoC says you can also umount it from kickoff. I don't seem able to unmount it from the Device Notifier. (Nor from the f-menu.) I have to go to the Dolphin window. >> However, the light on my stick remains on. >> IIRC, under Windows when I click on "Safely Remove" >> and choose the USB stick to remove, >> the light on the stick goes off, >> which I find reassuring. >> > That seems to work on some sticks but not others. Take the usual 2-3 second > delay and you should be fine - especially if you have seen dolphin blank out > the screen. Still, it would be nice to be offered the choice to "eject" the device, which I found does indeed turn it off. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
Timothy Murphy wrote: > It's a little disappointing that the light does not go out on my USB > stick, as it does in Windows when I click on Safely Remove. Some USB devices expect to be "ejected" for some reason. KDE does not do that, as it doesn't make sense to "eject" a USB device (at least not until USB ports start shooting the sticks at you ;-) ). But it probably should, given the devices which expect to be sent an "eject" event. (At least some versions of the iPod are reported to actually complain if you unplug them without "ejecting" them first.) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 20:59 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > It's a little disappointing that the light does not go out on my USB > stick, > as it does in Windows when I click on Safely Remove. If this worries you, try running "eject /dev/sdc1" (or whatever the stick is mounted as) from a Shell. "eject /media/" might also work. AFAIK that should call the actual driver to disconnect the stick, but YMMV of course. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Friday 03 April 2009 20:52:20 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Terry Polzin wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2009 07:22, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option > >> in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, > >> which I can click on before removing a USB stick. > >> > >> I was told that there was such an option, > >> but I don't seem able to find it. > >> I certainly don't have a "Safely Remove" icon in my panel, > >> as in the unmentionable system. > > > > Does your device have a desktop icon? Right-click that icon and there > > should > > > be a "safely remove" option on that menu > > I don't see any icon on my desktop. That's KDE3 only > There is an icon in my panel; > it is a small blue screen with the USB symbol on it, > and what looks like a white stand behind it. That's the Device Notifier > When I hover over it, it says > "Last plugged in device: ATV" > (That is apparently the name of my USB stick.) > > If I left-click on the icon a small window appears > with ATV beside a small USB icon. > When I hover over the icon it says > "2 actions for this device". > > When I (left or right) click on these words, > a larger window appears, which says > "A new device has appeared. What do you want to do?", > the options being: "Open with Dolphin", > "Download Photos with digiKam", and "Do nothing". > > If I click on the first option Dolphin shows me the contents of my stick. > > Now I see that ATV is listed among the devices on the left; > and if I right-click on ATV I am indeed given the option, > "Safely remove 'ATV'". > > When I click on this the contents of my stick disappear. > You can unmount it either from the dolphin Places panel or from the Device Notifier. PoC says you can also umount it from kickoff. > However, the light on my stick remains on. > IIRC, under Windows when I click on "Safely Remove" > and choose the USB stick to remove, > the light on the stick goes off, > which I find reassuring. > That seems to work on some sticks but not others. Take the usual 2-3 second delay and you should be fine - especially if you have seen dolphin blank out the screen. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
Anne Wilson wrote: >> I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option >> in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, >> which I can click on before removing a USB stick. >> >> I was told that there was such an option, >> but I don't seem able to find it. >> I certainly don't have a "Safely Remove" icon in my panel, >> as in the unmentionable system. >> > Tim, you get the icon if you hover over the device name in dolphin. That way, > if you have more than one usb device mounted it is quite clear which one you > are going to unmount. > > Hover over it and on the right you'll see an up-arrow icon for unmounting. If > it is not currently mounted, but it's still plugged in you'll see the device- > name but the icon will not appear. Thanks very much. I don't actually see the option if I hover over the name of the USB stick in the Dolphin window; but I do if I right-click on the name. It's a little disappointing that the light does not go out on my USB stick, as it does in Windows when I click on Safely Remove. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
Terry Polzin wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2009 07:22, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option >> in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, >> which I can click on before removing a USB stick. >> >> I was told that there was such an option, >> but I don't seem able to find it. >> I certainly don't have a "Safely Remove" icon in my panel, >> as in the unmentionable system. > Does your device have a desktop icon? Right-click that icon and there should > be a "safely remove" option on that menu I don't see any icon on my desktop. There is an icon in my panel; it is a small blue screen with the USB symbol on it, and what looks like a white stand behind it. When I hover over it, it says "Last plugged in device: ATV" (That is apparently the name of my USB stick.) If I left-click on the icon a small window appears with ATV beside a small USB icon. When I hover over the icon it says "2 actions for this device". When I (left or right) click on these words, a larger window appears, which says "A new device has appeared. What do you want to do?", the options being: "Open with Dolphin", "Download Photos with digiKam", and "Do nothing". If I click on the first option Dolphin shows me the contents of my stick. Now I see that ATV is listed among the devices on the left; and if I right-click on ATV I am indeed given the option, "Safely remove 'ATV'". When I click on this the contents of my stick disappear. However, the light on my stick remains on. IIRC, under Windows when I click on "Safely Remove" and choose the USB stick to remove, the light on the stick goes off, which I find reassuring. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Friday 03 April 2009 20:09:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:25 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2009 12:22:44 Timothy Murphy wrote: > > > I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option > > > in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, > > > which I can click on before removing a USB stick. > > > > > > I was told that there was such an option, > > > but I don't seem able to find it. > > > I certainly don't have a "Safely Remove" icon in my panel, > > > as in the unmentionable system. > > Methinks I had a brain-fart when I wrote this, so corrections coming up. > > Tim, you get the icon if you hover over the device name in dolphin. That > > way, if you have more than one usb device mounted it is quite clear which > > one you are going to unmount. > > This described the action in the Notifier Widget. In dolphin you need the Places panel open (You do know you can add places as bookmarks, there, don't you?). Right-click on the device name should give you Safely Remove. > > Hover over it and on the right you'll see an up-arrow icon for > > unmounting. If it is not currently mounted, but it's still plugged in > > you'll see the device- name but the icon will not appear. > This is also the Notifier Widget. > You can also hover over "Computer" in the Kicker menu (or whatever it's > called now) and right-click on the "Removable Storage" icon. This works > even without Dolphin. > I hadn't noticed that one, as I rarely use kickoff apart from shutting down. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:25 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2009 12:22:44 Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option > > in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, > > which I can click on before removing a USB stick. > > > > I was told that there was such an option, > > but I don't seem able to find it. > > I certainly don't have a "Safely Remove" icon in my panel, > > as in the unmentionable system. > > > Tim, you get the icon if you hover over the device name in dolphin. That > way, > if you have more than one usb device mounted it is quite clear which one you > are going to unmount. > > Hover over it and on the right you'll see an up-arrow icon for unmounting. > If > it is not currently mounted, but it's still plugged in you'll see the device- > name but the icon will not appear. You can also hover over "Computer" in the Kicker menu (or whatever it's called now) and right-click on the "Removable Storage" icon. This works even without Dolphin. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Friday 03 April 2009 07:22, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option > in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, > which I can click on before removing a USB stick. > > I was told that there was such an option, > but I don't seem able to find it. > I certainly don't have a "Safely Remove" icon in my panel, > as in the unmentionable system. > > > -- > Timothy Murphy > e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net > tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 > s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland Does your device have a desktop icon? Right-click that icon and there should be a "safely remove" option on that menu pgpQnTfBEciLI.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "Safely remove" USB stick
On Friday 03 April 2009 12:22:44 Timothy Murphy wrote: > I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option > in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, > which I can click on before removing a USB stick. > > I was told that there was such an option, > but I don't seem able to find it. > I certainly don't have a "Safely Remove" icon in my panel, > as in the unmentionable system. > Tim, you get the icon if you hover over the device name in dolphin. That way, if you have more than one usb device mounted it is quite clear which one you are going to unmount. Hover over it and on the right you'll see an up-arrow icon for unmounting. If it is not currently mounted, but it's still plugged in you'll see the device- name but the icon will not appear. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
"Safely remove" USB stick
I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system, which I can click on before removing a USB stick. I was told that there was such an option, but I don't seem able to find it. I certainly don't have a "Safely Remove" icon in my panel, as in the unmentionable system. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB stick with ext2?
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > With the USB mounted become root Then "chown alan /media/disk". > The ownership information is maintained in the ext2 structure. So, the > next time it is mounted it will retain ownership by alan. I find this acceptable. At least my source code files aren't executable, as they pretend to be with vfat. A better system for removable media would be for the root folder owner be changed to that of the console user, as it appears to happen with vfat mounts. That way, the media could be truly portable with minimum fuss. Actually, that leads me to my solution! Just do chmod 777 on the thumb drive's root folder and it all behaves the way I want. Anybody can create files or folders on the device, and read/write permissions are sensibly handled. Thanks for all the input, guys! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB stick with ext2?
Ed Greshko wrote: > Alan Evans wrote: >> Howdy! >> >> When I insert a USB thumb drive formatted with vfat, it gets >> automagically mounted under /media with appropriate permissions so the >> logged in user can write to the device. But if the thumb drive is >> formatted ext2, only root can write to it. >> >> $ mount >> /dev/sdb1 on /media/Devel type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal) >> /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk type vfat >> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500) >> $ ll >> total 20 >> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2009-01-05 21:27 Devel >> drwxr-xr-x 3 alan root 16384 1969-12-31 16:00 disk >> >> Is there a way to make that work? >> >> >> > With the USB mounted become root Then "chown alan /media/disk". > The ownership information is maintained in the ext2 structure. So, the > next time it is mounted it will retain ownership by alan. > One thing to keep in mind if you do this - if you move the drive to another machine where the UID and GID for alan are different, you will not be able to access the drive as alan. The owner/group settings are the number, not the name, of the user/group. You may want to use chown alan:alan /media/Devel instead of chown alan /media/disk. This will set both the owner and group of the disk. In this case, I would not use the -R option - I do not know what the affect of changing the ownership of /media/Devel/lost+found would be. You also have the option of creating a directory on the USB drive owned by alan. That way, you could have storage for more then one user on the drive. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB stick with ext2?
Original Message Subject: Re: USB stick with ext2? From: Bryn M. Reeves To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Date: 01/06/2009 06:12 AM No - ext2/3/4's root inodes are just regular directories and can be owned by any user as Ed already mentioned. I set most of my removable media to be owned by my normal UID/GID for exactly this reason (they can also be labelled with xattrs for e.g. SELinux if required). That's what happens when there's 50 different filesystems. I guess I need to brush up on my man mount knowledge. I don't use ext2/3/4 for any drive or media I own nor at work. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB stick with ext2?
Michael Cronenworth wrote: Alan Evans wrote: Is there a way to make that work Yes. Make a directory on the stick with your user permissions. The "/" of the usb drive will always be owned by root through HAL/dbus/gvfs No - ext2/3/4's root inodes are just regular directories and can be owned by any user as Ed already mentioned. I set most of my removable media to be owned by my normal UID/GID for exactly this reason (they can also be labelled with xattrs for e.g. SELinux if required). AFAIK. You could setup a special fstab line for manual mounting without requiring a folder, but I don't know if there is such an option in the DE. AFAIK, you still can't do that with ext2/3/4 - they do not support a uid=/gid= mount option like vfat that would allow you to change ownership of the entire file system at mount time. Regards, Bryn. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB stick with ext2?
Alan Evans wrote: > Howdy! > > When I insert a USB thumb drive formatted with vfat, it gets > automagically mounted under /media with appropriate permissions so the > logged in user can write to the device. But if the thumb drive is > formatted ext2, only root can write to it. > > $ mount > /dev/sdb1 on /media/Devel type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal) > /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk type vfat > (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500) > $ ll > total 20 > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2009-01-05 21:27 Devel > drwxr-xr-x 3 alan root 16384 1969-12-31 16:00 disk > > Is there a way to make that work? > > > With the USB mounted become root Then "chown alan /media/disk". The ownership information is maintained in the ext2 structure. So, the next time it is mounted it will retain ownership by alan. -- Not SENSUOUS ... only "FROLICSOME" ... and in need of DENTAL WORK ... in PAIN!!! mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB stick with ext2?
Alan Evans wrote: Is there a way to make that work Yes. Make a directory on the stick with your user permissions. The "/" of the usb drive will always be owned by root through HAL/dbus/gvfs AFAIK. You could setup a special fstab line for manual mounting without requiring a folder, but I don't know if there is such an option in the DE. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
USB stick with ext2?
Howdy! When I insert a USB thumb drive formatted with vfat, it gets automagically mounted under /media with appropriate permissions so the logged in user can write to the device. But if the thumb drive is formatted ext2, only root can write to it. $ mount /dev/sdb1 on /media/Devel type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal) /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500) $ ll total 20 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2009-01-05 21:27 Devel drwxr-xr-x 3 alan root 16384 1969-12-31 16:00 disk Is there a way to make that work? -Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update on a Live USB Stick
I deteled everything on the USB-Stick, and then I transfered the live image by livecd-iso-to-disk --overlay-size-mb 1250 F10-i686-Live-KDE.iso /dev/sdc1 yum update was succesful on this stick. Thanks,Daniel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update on a Live USB Stick
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Daniel Kirsten wrote: I transfered the F10-i686-Live-KDE.iso to a 2GB USB-Stick (vfat) as described on http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-making-media.html The stick booted well, but when I tried make yum update , yum crashed. I got tons of ext3-related error messages, altough the stick has a vfat file system. After the crash, I was no longer able to access the stick and dmesg, shutdown, ... did not work. Is it generally impossible to make yum update on a live medium, or did it fail due to hardware problems? The liveCD is basically a read-only file system. On top of that you can ask for an overlay file on the USB stick when you install it to USB, otherwise I think you get a memory overlay and changes are written to the overlay rather than the original read-only image. You are probably getting the ext3 errors once the overlay space has been used up. Probably you don't have space to apply all available updates, but you will probably succeed in applying a few selected updates as required. Michael Young -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update on a Live USB Stick
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Daniel Kirsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>you need more free memory. > > more ram or more space on the stick? > >>in my case, I get those messages when my >>4GB ram is full, but otherwise i can update properly (even the live >>image). try it. I have a 8GB Kingston USB thumbdrive with Fedora 10 x86_64 Live install. I ran yum update and installed all updates on the USB drive. I think he meant diskspace on the USB drive. Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update on a Live USB Stick
>you need more free memory. more ram or more space on the stick? >in my case, I get those messages when my >4GB ram is full, but otherwise i can update properly (even the live >image). try it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update on a Live USB Stick
you need more free memory. in my case, I get those messages when my 4GB ram is full, but otherwise i can update properly (even the live image). try it. 2008/11/27, Daniel Kirsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I transfered the F10-i686-Live-KDE.iso to a 2GB USB-Stick (vfat) as > described on > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-making-media.html > > The stick booted well, but when I tried make yum update , yum crashed. > I got tons of ext3-related error messages, altough the stick has a vfat file > system. > After the crash, I was no longer able to access the stick and dmesg, > shutdown, ... did not work. > > Is it generally impossible to make yum update on a live medium, or did > it fail due to hardware problems? > > Thanks, > Daniel > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
yum update on a Live USB Stick
Hi, I transfered the F10-i686-Live-KDE.iso to a 2GB USB-Stick (vfat) as described on http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-making-media.html The stick booted well, but when I tried make yum update , yum crashed. I got tons of ext3-related error messages, altough the stick has a vfat file system. After the crash, I was no longer able to access the stick and dmesg, shutdown, ... did not work. Is it generally impossible to make yum update on a live medium, or did it fail due to hardware problems? Thanks, Daniel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora installation USB stick (NOT liveCD)
Benny Amorsen wrote: > Is there a way to install Fedora from a USB stick without network > access? I'm talking about the "real" Fedora installation, like from > the regular Fedora DVD installer, not copying the LiveCD to the hard > drive. Ideally the installer would look for ks.cfg on the USB stick > and do a kickstart installation. > > Media size isn't a problem, an 8GB USB stick is cheaper than a CD > drive. > > > /Benny > > I am feeling a bit lazy today, so you will have to look up the details yourself. But you can create a bootable USB stick and add the DVD image to it. You then boot the install USB drive, and give the DVD image as the source. It is like installing from an image on the hard drive, but in this case, the USB drive has the DVD image. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora installation USB stick (NOT liveCD)
Benny Amorsen wrote: Is there a way to install Fedora from a USB stick without network access? I'm talking about the "real" Fedora installation, like from the regular Fedora DVD installer, not copying the LiveCD to the hard drive. Ideally the installer would look for ks.cfg on the USB stick and do a kickstart installation. Media size isn't a problem, an 8GB USB stick is cheaper than a CD drive. /Benny Install the liveusb-creator package it should have the tools you need. There's also some windows tools to do the same. unetbootin has distro's for Linux and/or windows. -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7321 Office: 228-688-5738 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora installation USB stick (NOT liveCD)
Is there a way to install Fedora from a USB stick without network access? I'm talking about the "real" Fedora installation, like from the regular Fedora DVD installer, not copying the LiveCD to the hard drive. Ideally the installer would look for ks.cfg on the USB stick and do a kickstart installation. Media size isn't a problem, an 8GB USB stick is cheaper than a CD drive. /Benny -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT-ish F9 Laptop\USB-Stick CentOS5.x Server SSH Access
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Turning wrote: > This article has a lot of the tips I've used to make my SSH server more > secure. > You might want to look at using DSA public key authentication to limit the > logins like you requested. > > http://www.linux.com/feature/61061 > Jason Thanks, this looks useful. Frank -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIuYnAzrcOE0b3RmIRAknEAJ47uLubu/W6rw8RGcBxioFHgG4KUQCfVSmL ChzJv+X9/1c9aLi1EYNKJWo= =XXi8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT-ish F9 Laptop\USB-Stick CentOS5.x Server SSH Access
Frank Murphy wrote: > Tim wrote: >> On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 08:09 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> What do I do to only allow remote access via ssh to my centos box. >>> From my laptop F9+, or an F9+ usb-stick >> What do you mean by "only allow"? You want to block all ports except >> for what SSH uses? It should have a firewall configurator to make that >> easy for you, untick all the options except for ssh. >> >> Write again if you need more info. >> > > I mean only allow ssh access from those two scenarios, > my laptop + an F9 usb-stick. > > because there are attempts by "fluffy" and other(s) to access the box. > > Frank > > > This article has a lot of the tips I've used to make my SSH server more secure. You might want to look at using DSA public key authentication to limit the logins like you requested. http://www.linux.com/feature/61061 I do like to have my SSH server password accessible, so I've set AllowUsers and run Denyhosts. Denyhosts is like the other program that locks out certain users that have failed logging in so many times, except it has a server that you report banned IPs and the server feeds you the IPs reported by everyone else. That way all the active bots trying to crack SSH servers are mostly locked out already. And remember to pick a strong passphrase if you leave this available. Jason -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT-ish F9 Laptop\USB-Stick CentOS5.x Server SSH Access
Frank Murphy wrote: > What do I do to only allow remote access via ssh to my centos box. > From my laptop F9+, or an F9+ usb-stick > > Asking here as centos forums, don't like general Linux q's. > > > Frank > > You might want to only allow logins with a key pair - this prevents anyone from cracking the password. Use a good pass phrase on the private key. Then add a rate limiter to ssh connections attempts - fail-to-ban or a firewall rule, just to cut down on all the junk in the logs. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT-ish F9 Laptop\USB-Stick CentOS5.x Server SSH Access
If you followed the default installation and set up the firewall. It will only allow ssh & other services that you have configured. If you set up this box as http server it should have enabled that as well. I would advise you to run: iptables -L # to see what is allowed or not If you have other ports open that you don't need, run: service-config-securitylevel or system-config-securitylevel-tui #this will allow you to do it on an easy prompt driven way if you don't want to create a script with iptables commandns on it that you can modify as you wish and reload accordingly as I do on my boxes regards On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 09:59 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: >> I mean only allow ssh access from those two scenarios, >> my laptop + an F9 usb-stick. >> >> because there are attempts by "fluffy" and other(s) to access the box. > > Well, if your own computers are from fixed IPs, you can set those into a > list of IPs allowed to connect. However, that doesn't stop someone else > who's able to get the same IP from trying. > > Good passwords, and only using the newer SSH2 protocol, makes it damn > hard for anyone else to get in. They can try, and that's about it. > > Something like fail2ban will automatically firewall off someone who > tries and fails, so they don't get to try again. There's a few of those > sort of things, which will auto-blacklist addresses for a while. It > could be a permanent blacklist, but you'd only want to do that if there > was no chance of accidentally locking yourself out. > > Look into finding and using fail2ban. I think that's your best way to > handle it. > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- Ed Landaveri GNU/Linux User 433512 http://counter.li.org "Free as in Freedom" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT-ish F9 Laptop\USB-Stick CentOS5.x Server SSH Access
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 09:59 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > I mean only allow ssh access from those two scenarios, > my laptop + an F9 usb-stick. > > because there are attempts by "fluffy" and other(s) to access the box. Well, if your own computers are from fixed IPs, you can set those into a list of IPs allowed to connect. However, that doesn't stop someone else who's able to get the same IP from trying. Good passwords, and only using the newer SSH2 protocol, makes it damn hard for anyone else to get in. They can try, and that's about it. Something like fail2ban will automatically firewall off someone who tries and fails, so they don't get to try again. There's a few of those sort of things, which will auto-blacklist addresses for a while. It could be a permanent blacklist, but you'd only want to do that if there was no chance of accidentally locking yourself out. Look into finding and using fail2ban. I think that's your best way to handle it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT-ish F9 Laptop\USB-Stick CentOS5.x Server SSH Access
Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 08:09 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: >> What do I do to only allow remote access via ssh to my centos box. >> From my laptop F9+, or an F9+ usb-stick > > What do you mean by "only allow"? You want to block all ports except > for what SSH uses? It should have a firewall configurator to make that > easy for you, untick all the options except for ssh. > > Write again if you need more info. > I mean only allow ssh access from those two scenarios, my laptop + an F9 usb-stick. because there are attempts by "fluffy" and other(s) to access the box. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( Skype: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT-ish F9 Laptop\USB-Stick CentOS5.x Server SSH Access
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 08:09 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > What do I do to only allow remote access via ssh to my centos box. > From my laptop F9+, or an F9+ usb-stick What do you mean by "only allow"? You want to block all ports except for what SSH uses? It should have a firewall configurator to make that easy for you, untick all the options except for ssh. Write again if you need more info. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OT-ish F9 Laptop\USB-Stick CentOS5.x Server SSH Access
What do I do to only allow remote access via ssh to my centos box. From my laptop F9+, or an F9+ usb-stick Asking here as centos forums, don't like general Linux q's. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( Skype: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB stick
El Wednesday 20 August 2008 00:04:55 Patrick O'Callaghan va escriure: > On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 23:04 +0200, Xavier Mas wrote: > > El Tuesday 19 August 2008 22:45:21 Joonas Sarajärvi va escriure: > > > 2008/8/19 Xavier Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > [...]> > > > > > Could you post the output of dmesg after plugging in the USB stick? > > > Someone else may also have some other useful debugging commands for > > > this. > > > > > > -- > > > Joonas Sarajärvi > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > how can I to get this output? > > Plug in the stick, wait a few seconds for the driver to settle, then > type "dmesg" at any console or terminal window. Look for a line similar > to "usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2" and > copy from there to the end. > > poc Patrick, this are the lines of dmesg for all usb devices (I think the good ones are the USB Mass Storage). Thank you very much for your help. -- Xavier Mas ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: EHCI Host Controller ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: debug port 1 PCI: cache line size of 128 is not supported by device :00:1d.7 ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: irq 23, io mem 0xff27fc00 ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 8 ports detected usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002 usb usb1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 usb usb1: Product: EHCI Host Controller usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 ehci_hcd usb usb1: SerialNumber: :00:1d.7 ohci_hcd: 2006 August 04 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0 PCI Interrupt :00:1d.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1d.0 to 64 uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: irq 16, io base 0xe000 usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usb usb2: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001 usb usb2: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 usb usb2: Product: UHCI Host Controller usb usb2: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 uhci_hcd usb usb2: SerialNumber: :00:1d.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1d.1[B] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1d.1 to 64 uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: irq 19, io base 0xe400 usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 usb usb3: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001 usb usb3: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 usb usb3: Product: UHCI Host Controller usb usb3: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 uhci_hcd usb usb3: SerialNumber: :00:1d.1 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1d.2[C] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18 PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1d.2 to 64 uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: irq 18, io base 0xe800 usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usb usb4: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001 usb usb4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 usb usb4: Product: UHCI Host Controller usb usb4: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 uhci_hcd usb usb4: SerialNumber: :00:1d.2 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1d.3[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1d.3 to 64 uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 5 uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: irq 16, io base 0xec00 usb usb5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 5-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usb 2-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb usb5: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001 usb usb5: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 usb usb5: Product: UHCI Host Controller usb usb5: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 uhci_hcd usb usb5: SerialNumber: :00:1d.3 input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [HID 04b4:0033] on usb-:00:1d.0-1 usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=04b4, idProduct=0033 usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage USB M
Re: USB stick
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 23:04 +0200, Xavier Mas wrote: > El Tuesday 19 August 2008 22:45:21 Joonas Sarajärvi va escriure: > > 2008/8/19 Xavier Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [...]> > > Could you post the output of dmesg after plugging in the USB stick? > > Someone else may also have some other useful debugging commands for > > this. > > > > -- > > Joonas Sarajärvi > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > how can I to get this output? Plug in the stick, wait a few seconds for the driver to settle, then type "dmesg" at any console or terminal window. Look for a line similar to "usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2" and copy from there to the end. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: USB stick
El Tuesday 19 August 2008 22:45:21 Joonas Sarajärvi va escriure: > 2008/8/19 Xavier Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi list, > > > > I recently installed Fedora 8 in my computer and when starts I'm getting > > a message that says: hub 1-0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1. > > My Fedora installations on my main desktop computer have always done > this since at least Fedora Core 6, depending a bit on which devices I > have connected. I don't have any USB related problems, though, so I'd > guess it is just a minor warning, and probably not the source of your > usb media problems. > > > Then, when desktop is fully up I can't mount the USB stick (doesn't mount > > automatically when I insert it into the port). > > > > Seems a bad installation or maybe a bug. Any suggestions? > > Could you post the output of dmesg after plugging in the USB stick? > Someone else may also have some other useful debugging commands for > this. > > -- > Joonas Sarajärvi > [EMAIL PROTECTED] how can I to get this output? -- Xavier Mas -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: USB stick
2008/8/19 Xavier Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi list, > > I recently installed Fedora 8 in my computer and when starts I'm getting a > message that says: hub 1-0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1. My Fedora installations on my main desktop computer have always done this since at least Fedora Core 6, depending a bit on which devices I have connected. I don't have any USB related problems, though, so I'd guess it is just a minor warning, and probably not the source of your usb media problems. > Then, when desktop is fully up I can't mount the USB stick (doesn't mount > automatically when I insert it into the port). > > Seems a bad installation or maybe a bug. Any suggestions? Could you post the output of dmesg after plugging in the USB stick? Someone else may also have some other useful debugging commands for this. -- Joonas Sarajärvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
USB stick
Hi list, I recently installed Fedora 8 in my computer and when starts I'm getting a message that says: hub 1-0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1. Then, when desktop is fully up I can't mount the USB stick (doesn't mount automatically when I insert it into the port). Seems a bad installation or maybe a bug. Any suggestions? -- Xavier Mas -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Live USB-stick format - SOLVED
On Tuesday 12 August 2008 18:42, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >> Anne Wilson wrote: > >>> Mikkel, I'm away from home and from the laptop I used to do the > >>> install, so I can't examine the history to find out. > >>> > >>> Mounting the drive in a running system shows all the expected > >>> directories under /media/Z Mate 8GB/DaneElec, and as you will see in > >>> my reply to Bill, fdisk shows > >>> > >>> /dev/sdc1 * 11023 8055071 83 Linux > >>> A Mandriva user suggested a command that would put syslinux onto the drive. It didn't work, nor did any reasonable variation that I could think of, so, having nothing to lose, I employed rule 99: When in doubt, cheat. I stuck a usb fedora stick and the mandriva stick in while running xandros, and copied syslinux from fedora to mandriva. I didn't expect it to work but it did, and Mandriva is working perfectly happily now. All that's left is to do a usb stick with windows, and I can handle pretty much anything from my EeePC :-) Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Live USB-stick format
Bill Davidsen wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Mikkel, I'm away from home and from the laptop I used to do the install, so I can't examine the history to find out. Mounting the drive in a running system shows all the expected directories under /media/Z Mate 8GB/DaneElec, and as you will see in my reply to Bill, fdisk shows /dev/sdc1 * 11023 8055071 83 Linux Anne OK - you have the boot flag. The problem may by that there isn't a boot loader in the MBR. It depends on how the stick was formatted from the factory. You may need to install makebootfat to make the stick bootable. I think there is also a way to do it with syslinux, but I am not sure. makebootfat?? It's a Linux partition, hopefully one could boot a rescue disk, chroot to the stick, and grub install on the device. I'n assuming that Anne checked for the presence of the /boot partition on the USB, etc. You are correct - not one of my better days. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Live USB-stick format
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Mikkel, I'm away from home and from the laptop I used to do the install, so I can't examine the history to find out. Mounting the drive in a running system shows all the expected directories under /media/Z Mate 8GB/DaneElec, and as you will see in my reply to Bill, fdisk shows /dev/sdc1 * 11023 8055071 83 Linux Anne OK - you have the boot flag. The problem may by that there isn't a boot loader in the MBR. It depends on how the stick was formatted from the factory. You may need to install makebootfat to make the stick bootable. I think there is also a way to do it with syslinux, but I am not sure. makebootfat?? It's a Linux partition, hopefully one could boot a rescue disk, chroot to the stick, and grub install on the device. I'n assuming that Anne checked for the presence of the /boot partition on the USB, etc. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Live USB-stick format
Anne Wilson wrote: Mikkel, I'm away from home and from the laptop I used to do the install, so I can't examine the history to find out. Mounting the drive in a running system shows all the expected directories under /media/Z Mate 8GB/DaneElec, and as you will see in my reply to Bill, fdisk shows /dev/sdc1 * 11023 8055071 83 Linux Anne OK - you have the boot flag. The problem may by that there isn't a boot loader in the MBR. It depends on how the stick was formatted from the factory. You may need to install makebootfat to make the stick bootable. I think there is also a way to do it with syslinux, but I am not sure. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Live USB-stick format
On Friday 08 August 2008 14:44, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > I want F9 on a USB stick. It's 8GB, and comes with a few files concerned > > with using it on windows, so I don't really care whether they survive or > > not. > > > > Most of my hardware is not so young, and doesn't boot off usb sticks. > > However, the EeePC should do - it does from a Mandriva flash drive. It > > lists the drive, in BIOS, enclosed in [ ] which seems to mean that it is > > not bootable, so I looked at the drive with fdisk. It says > > > > Disk /dev/sdc1: 8120MB > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > > Partition Table: loop > > > > and that 'The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels' > > > > Obviously I've done something wrong, but what? > > > > Anne > > Dumb question - did you run "fdisk -l /dev/sdc" or > "fdisk -l /dev/sdc1"? The first form is the correct one, and the > second one will give strange results. From the output it looks like > you used the second form. > Mikkel, I'm away from home and from the laptop I used to do the install, so I can't examine the history to find out. Mounting the drive in a running system shows all the expected directories under /media/Z Mate 8GB/DaneElec, and as you will see in my reply to Bill, fdisk shows /dev/sdc1 * 11023 8055071 83 Linux Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Live USB-stick format
On Monday 04 August 2008 03:51, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > I want F9 on a USB stick. It's 8GB, and comes with a few files concerned > > with using it on windows, so I don't really care whether they survive or > > not. > > > > Most of my hardware is not so young, and doesn't boot off usb sticks. > > However, the EeePC should do - it does from a Mandriva flash drive. It > > lists the drive, in BIOS, enclosed in [ ] which seems to mean that it is > > not bootable, so I looked at the drive with fdisk. It says > > > > Disk /dev/sdc1: 8120MB > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > > Partition Table: loop > > > > and that 'The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels' > > > > Obviously I've done something wrong, but what? > > Best guess is that you formatted it without a partition table and/or > boot sector. Try "fdisk -l" as root and see if you get more information. > /dev/sdc1 * 11023 8055071 83 Linux Mounting the drive from a running system, I can see all the directories that I would expect to see. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Live USB-stick format
Anne Wilson wrote: I want F9 on a USB stick. It's 8GB, and comes with a few files concerned with using it on windows, so I don't really care whether they survive or not. Most of my hardware is not so young, and doesn't boot off usb sticks. However, the EeePC should do - it does from a Mandriva flash drive. It lists the drive, in BIOS, enclosed in [ ] which seems to mean that it is not bootable, so I looked at the drive with fdisk. It says Disk /dev/sdc1: 8120MB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: loop and that 'The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels' Obviously I've done something wrong, but what? Anne Dumb question - did you run "fdisk -l /dev/sdc" or "fdisk -l /dev/sdc1"? The first form is the correct one, and the second one will give strange results. From the output it looks like you used the second form. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Live USB-stick format
Anne Wilson wrote: I want F9 on a USB stick. It's 8GB, and comes with a few files concerned with using it on windows, so I don't really care whether they survive or not. Most of my hardware is not so young, and doesn't boot off usb sticks. However, the EeePC should do - it does from a Mandriva flash drive. It lists the drive, in BIOS, enclosed in [ ] which seems to mean that it is not bootable, so I looked at the drive with fdisk. It says Disk /dev/sdc1: 8120MB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: loop and that 'The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels' Obviously I've done something wrong, but what? Best guess is that you formatted it without a partition table and/or boot sector. Try "fdisk -l" as root and see if you get more information. Anne -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Live USB-stick format
I want F9 on a USB stick. It's 8GB, and comes with a few files concerned with using it on windows, so I don't really care whether they survive or not. Most of my hardware is not so young, and doesn't boot off usb sticks. However, the EeePC should do - it does from a Mandriva flash drive. It lists the drive, in BIOS, enclosed in [ ] which seems to mean that it is not bootable, so I looked at the drive with fdisk. It says Disk /dev/sdc1: 8120MB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: loop and that 'The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels' Obviously I've done something wrong, but what? Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
