Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-05 Thread jdow

From: "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 2008, July 03 11:51



Scott Harvanek wrote:
If they don't have a USB or RJ45 port... I don't know what else they'd 
use? osmosis? :)


You could call and *ask* them what features their modems have. :)

-Scott

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian 
,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 
years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I 
will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems 
have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.



Thanks Scott, I was just  wondering if anyone has a DSL service with 
them, but you are right.


FWIW I have DSLExtreme over a Verizon based landline connection. The
modem DSLExtreme uses is nothing more than a modem. You need to plug
Ethernet into the modem. And the network has to recognize your Ethernet
adapter's MAC address. For DSLExtreme that is as simple as playing with
their website at little. For Verizon - who knows what evil lurks

I wonder what the story about FIOS and Linux might be

{^_^}

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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-04 Thread Daniel Anderson


Jim wrote:

Scott Harvanek wrote:
If they don't have a USB or RJ45 port... I don't know what else they'd 
use? osmosis? :)


You could call and *ask* them what features their modems have. :)

-Scott

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian 
,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 
years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I 
will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems 
have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.



Thanks Scott, I was just  wondering if anyone has a DSL service with 
them, but you are right.



Mine has both usb and ethernet ports. Ethernet is preferred.

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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Jim

Raymond C. Rodgers wrote:

Jim wrote:

Raymond C. Rodgers wrote:

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a 
Indian ,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in 
my 100 years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup 
connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it 
uses those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in 
it, and I will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does 
Verizon DSL modems have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.

Verizon's DSL department seems to be very supportive of Linux and 
BSD OSes, and the modem I got from them 7 years ago was RJ-45 only. 
Once you get set up, you may want to join their 0.verizon.linux 
USENET group for any tweaks or problems using Linux on their 
service. (I never had any with Fedora though, smooth sailing all the 
way.)


Raymond


My problem was with setting up Dialup and handshaking.
What is the http://  for the 0.verizon.linux USENET group.

As far as I know they don't have a web interface, but if you have a 
USENET reader or use Thunderbird for email you can point it to the 
news server at news.verizon.net . I'm going to greatly miss Verizon... 
My wife and I are divorcing, and I've moved to an area in which they 
have a trivial presence. I'm doomed to a choice between AT&T and 
Comcast. Due to AT&T's logistics and stupidity, I was forced to go 
with Comcast or be limited to basic DSL (less than 512k down).


Raymond

Yes , I also am stuck with AT&T and Comcast here in Indianapolis, In, 
But southern Indiana, where I'm trying to get a

older lady a Verizon connection. I wished we had them here.

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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Raymond C. Rodgers

Jim wrote:

Raymond C. Rodgers wrote:

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a 
Indian ,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in 
my 100 years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and 
I will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL 
modems have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.

Verizon's DSL department seems to be very supportive of Linux and BSD 
OSes, and the modem I got from them 7 years ago was RJ-45 only. Once 
you get set up, you may want to join their 0.verizon.linux USENET 
group for any tweaks or problems using Linux on their service. (I 
never had any with Fedora though, smooth sailing all the way.)


Raymond


My problem was with setting up Dialup and handshaking.
What is the http://  for the 0.verizon.linux USENET group.

As far as I know they don't have a web interface, but if you have a 
USENET reader or use Thunderbird for email you can point it to the news 
server at news.verizon.net . I'm going to greatly miss Verizon... My 
wife and I are divorcing, and I've moved to an area in which they have a 
trivial presence. I'm doomed to a choice between AT&T and Comcast. Due 
to AT&T's logistics and stupidity, I was forced to go with Comcast or be 
limited to basic DSL (less than 512k down).


Raymond

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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Jim

Raymond C. Rodgers wrote:

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian 
,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 
years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I 
will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems 
have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.

Verizon's DSL department seems to be very supportive of Linux and BSD 
OSes, and the modem I got from them 7 years ago was RJ-45 only. Once 
you get set up, you may want to join their 0.verizon.linux USENET 
group for any tweaks or problems using Linux on their service. (I 
never had any with Fedora though, smooth sailing all the way.)


Raymond


My problem was with setting up Dialup and handshaking.
What is the http://  for the 0.verizon.linux USENET group.

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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Mark Haney

Raymond C. Rodgers wrote:

Jim wrote:




Verizon's DSL department seems to be very supportive of Linux and BSD 
OSes, and the modem I got from them 7 years ago was RJ-45 only. Once you 
get set up, you may want to join their 0.verizon.linux USENET group for 
any tweaks or problems using Linux on their service. (I never had any 
with Fedora though, smooth sailing all the way.)


Raymond

I've had my Verizon DSL for about 18 months now and I have to say it's 
been a far cry from dealing with Charter and their TS team.  I'd much 
prefer my brain being dipped in acid rather deal with Charter ever again.


That said, I've not had any problems getting my network working with 
Verizon.  But then, I do this for a living and haven't needed their TS 
for this.



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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Raymond C. Rodgers

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian 
,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 
years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I 
will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems 
have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.

Verizon's DSL department seems to be very supportive of Linux and BSD 
OSes, and the modem I got from them 7 years ago was RJ-45 only. Once you 
get set up, you may want to join their 0.verizon.linux USENET group for 
any tweaks or problems using Linux on their service. (I never had any 
with Fedora though, smooth sailing all the way.)


Raymond

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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Mark Haney

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup connection 
with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian ,  he drop me 
like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 years of use of 
Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I 
will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems 
have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.



I have Verizon DSL and they have both USB and ETH ports on them.  At 
least the modem I have does.  It's a little more than a year old.  But 
since I'm 300ft or so from the DSLAM I still get well over 6Mbps. :)



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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Scott Harvanek

Jim,

http://www22.verizon.com/content/consumerdsl/system+requirements/system+requirements.htm

USB or RJ45

You should be just fine :)

-Scott

Jim wrote:

Scott Harvanek wrote:
If they don't have a USB or RJ45 port... I don't know what else 
they'd use? osmosis? :)


You could call and *ask* them what features their modems have. :)

-Scott

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a 
Indian ,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in 
my 100 years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and 
I will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL 
modems have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.



Thanks Scott, I was just  wondering if anyone has a DSL service with 
them, but you are right.




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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Jim

Scott Harvanek wrote:
If they don't have a USB or RJ45 port... I don't know what else they'd 
use? osmosis? :)


You could call and *ask* them what features their modems have. :)

-Scott

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian 
,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 
years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I 
will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems 
have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.



Thanks Scott, I was just  wondering if anyone has a DSL service with 
them, but you are right.


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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Scott Harvanek
If they don't have a USB or RJ45 port... I don't know what else they'd 
use? osmosis? :)


You could call and *ask* them what features their modems have. :)

-Scott

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian 
,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 
years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I 
will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems 
have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.



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Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-03 Thread Jim
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup connection 
with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian ,  he drop me 
like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 years of use of 
Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I 
will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems 
have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.

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